Will Israel Attack Iran This Year?
The neocons are getting ready for another war. The same crowd that helped get us into Iraq are desperate for war with Iran (and for many of the same reasons).
Former Vice President Cheney now says publicly that we could have had war with Iran already if only President Bush hadn't balked. Bush not only refused to sign off on a US attack on Iran but, in the closing days of his Presidency, refused to allow Israel to bomb Iran. (The man deserves our gratitude for that).
But the neocons (led by Cheney, Bolton, Feith, Perle, etc) haven't given up. They do not expect President Obama to go to war.(They despise him ). But their hope is to force him to permit Israel to attack as soon as it deems diplomacy a dead end.
How do they intend to get Obama to authorize what Bush nixed?
Easy. Get Congress to tighten the screws on him.
The other day I talked to a Senate aide who told me that AIPAC has been pushing hard for a tough line on Iran (new sanctions) and for a deadline on diplomacy. It is cool with talking to Tehran but only as a prelude for something more definitive. His exact words; "For AIPAC, it's all Iran, all the time. I don't think they have come in about any other issue for a year or two."
So, while we are all focusing on health care, they are lining up Congressional Democrats to put pressure on Obama to let Israel do whatever it wants to do.
If past is prologue, AIPAC will succeed. With few exceptions, the Congressional leadership in both parties do what the lobby wants them to do. If the lobby decides to push for war, you can count on your favorite liberals to line up behind the policy (just like they did with Gaza).
Bottom line. We better start paying attention.
If we don't, we could have a third Middle East war in our hand, with the entire Muslim world arrayed against us. Just what we need.
Also, see TIME on why new Iran sanctions could backfire.




















His Secretary of State is also pressuring him to antagonize Iran with new sanctions. She also may have presidential ambitions, but I don't want to speculate.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4229894003980119465&ei=rIicSrmDF4nzlQfu5Y3vCw&q=hillary+clinton+aipac
August 31, 2009 10:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have no reason to doubt that MJ has more inside knowledge about the goings on in Washington than I do. But think of it, he is saying that if AIPAC wants Congress to give the green light for an attack by Israel on Iran, it will most likely happen. Then he says “.....we could have a third Middle East war in our hand, with the entire Muslim world arrayed against us. Just what we need!" That's the understatement of the century.
You mean to tell me that these spineless so-called congressmen and so-called senators would rather appease AIPAC than avert a catastrophe in the Middle east and beyond? You need to let that sink in because, if true, it is a profound statement about who is "governing" us, if that's the word.
August 31, 2009 10:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Andrew, that is what I'm saying. But I don't think Obama will surrender to this bunch. On this issue, here's hoping he emulates Eisenhower, the first Bush, and Carter.
August 31, 2009 10:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama will have a real chance to serve America. Or he will serve AIPAC. I guess we will see where his priorities and loyalties lie, won't we?
The only nation that would benefit from an attack on Iran is Russia. $250 barrel of oil. Talk about the ultimate stimulus package.
Then, again, MJ, have you considered that every threat made against Iran enriches someone at the NYMEX? And so it goes....
September 1, 2009 8:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Great post M.J. The thing is, a conflict with Iran could be viewed by Obama and his aides as a great distraction and rallying point in the wake of a crappy health care bill.
His approval rating is already tanking, and it could go down to 40% if/when some shit bill is thrown in our face.
And who doesn't want to be a war president?
Hopefully he stands strong, and no convincing false flag operations are unleashed and blamed on Iran. I don't think he'd have the guts to point the finger at American Intelligence, or foreigners working for Blackwater.
I doubt he'd point the finger at Mossad if evidence pointed to them. And he wouldn't want to look weak when Americans were blasted with 24/7 coverage of the "Iranian Attack," and the public supported retaliation.
I get the feeling Presidents really can be bullied into war, or at least tolerating wars sparked by close allies with strong lobbies.
August 31, 2009 10:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks!
September 1, 2009 12:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
"I doubt he'd point the finger at Mossad if evidence pointed to them"
He could point to precedent.
http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2008/08/18/movers-and-shakers/
September 1, 2009 10:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
isn't it interesting that when it comes to iran, israel wants deadlines, target dates, and sanctions. yet, the former night club bouncer says that when it comes to israel "We must not commit to target dates on a comprehensive agreement" [link]. and sanctions against israel? forgetaboutit
August 31, 2009 11:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hmmm.
Two disastrously run wars are not enough. Some want to burden the country (and the world) with another.
Are you feeling (a third time) lucky? Well, are you?
Good grief. These neocons are dangerously insane. But you have to remember this country voted them back to a second term. And I still have no understanding why.
September 1, 2009 12:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
When you figure out why "Israel's Lawyer" and supporter of an attack on Iran, Dennis Ross, is running M.E. policy for the National Security Council, with an office down the hall from Obama, please let me know.
And the thing is, Iran was on the target list before the Iraq invasion. They knew that Iran would be strengthened after Iraq, if Iran wasn't also "dealt with."
I think the biggest reason we still have so many troops in Iraq and Afghanistan is because they surround Iran, and our establishment is still trying to tighten the noose.
Is Israel the biggest reason for Rahm recruiting exclusively pro-war candidates, and threatening liberals into voting for the latest Iraq war extension?
I'd bet it's up there. Rahm is an admirer of Dennis Ross, and likely played a role in Ross' big promotion to the White House.
September 1, 2009 1:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
There is now, unfortunately, little doubt that AIPAC will succeed in influencing the House to support an Israeli attack on Iran thereby dragging the world into the first global nuclear war and that will set the world back maybe fifty years. The eventual outcome is completely unknown - but astonishingly, nobody seems perturbed.
Isn't human nature wonderful?
September 1, 2009 3:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
AIPAC may indeed be pushing for sanctions against Iran (and maybe even war), but I'm just not seeing a lot of momentum in congress for confrontation with Iran. With war mongers Bush and Cheney out of the White House, the Republicans in congress weakened, and other more pressing issues (like health care) taking priority, I find it hard to believe that the drive to punish Iran will gain any traction. In fact, after the recent elections in that country, there's some sympathy in the US for the Iranian populace, and that goodwill might make it harder for anyone to suggest anything like sanctions or bombing that would put the Iranian people under even greater stress.
September 1, 2009 7:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
America will now not attack Iran itself but AIPAC will ensure that Congress supports an Israeli strike and will supply Israel with yet more ICBMs, F15/F16 strike fighter/bombers, bunker-busting bombs, heat-seeking missiles, parts for nuclear -armed submarines, white phosphorus and other chemical weapons - all on the pretense of defense.
Problem is that the ordinary Joe in Idaho or West Virginia thinks all this political nonsense doesn't affect him or his family .. How sad is that.
September 1, 2009 7:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
It occurs to me that if AIPAC, (aka the American Zionist Committee for Public Affairs), were to move its offices into the White House, it would obviate any ambiguity as to who is running America and could reduce AIPAC’s overheads, thereby leaving it more funds available for one-page press ads calculated to influence public opinion.
It’s called ‘lobbying’. It’s completely legitimate, only not particularly democratic in that it seeks to influence legislation on behalf of a small special interest group which is not necessarily in the national interest or indeed in anybody’s interest other than that of itself and its members. That, unfortunately, is American democracy – AIPAC style.
Of course, if the rest of the 300 million people in the U.S ensured that their voices were heard and their interests served, things could be dramatically different. Instead of billions of dollars going to Israel every year, and to Egypt on behalf of Israel, that lost revenue could benefit millions of ordinary Americans in need of financial help during these hard economic times.
But it needs those 300 million Americans to make their voices heard. Only then will Special Interest Group lobbying on behalf of foreign states, cease to have any influence in the House or the Senate. That was, and is, 20th century American politics. It’s now the 21st century and it’s time for a radical re-think on how the US legislature serves the electorate.
September 1, 2009 8:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Our dear ally is not going to force us to do anything we are not going to do anyway. This is a cover story.
Let us not get confused : the US government has yet to admit the real reason for invading Iraq. There were no WMDs and the 'intelligence' was FAKED not faulty. The purpose is to seize military control of The Gulf.
The guys flying the planes into buildings were from Saudi Arabia - then we saw our president kissing and holding hands with the king of that country. The story fed to the public about 11 September 2001 is nonsense and bears no logical examination.
This is about oil and gas and not our dear ally's security worries.
Have you noticed that the stories told to the public by our government have not changed ? Our government has permanent interests - the basic situation has not changed.
The Americans will not attack Iran because a dear ally is worried about Iran. The Americans will attack Iran for an interest absolutely vital to the USA. The Americans want to control the oil and gas fields of Iran, the last and biggest piece of the puzzle.
Have you noticed that Venezuela is the only country in the Western Hemisphere that the Americans really focus on ? That Chavez is a 'dictator' and a 'Hitler' ? That's what we hear before a place is attacked. Colombia is being fortified by the Americans right now - and it is not for the 'war on drugs'.
Read some speeches Cheney made in the nineties : he is a true believer in Peak Oil. He and his friends mean to control oil and gas supplies vital to the USA.
September 1, 2009 12:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cheney doesn't run America anymore.
September 1, 2009 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cheney doesn't as he wasn't re-elected but then neither was AIPAC.
September 1, 2009 5:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ok, MJ, is this just a hypothetical post, or do you have information? Are you expecting something?
September 1, 2009 7:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
September 1, 2009 7:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
RE: "Be afraid. Be very afraid."
SEE: "ISRAEL’S PRO-IRAN WAR DOG AND PONY SHOW COMING SOON TO A JEWISH COMMUNITY NEAR YOU…", by Richard Silverstein, 09/01/09
(EXCERPT) Sheldon Adelson’s shmate, Yisrael HaYom, reports that several senior Israeli cabinet ministers including Bogie Yaalon, Benny Begin, Danny Ayalon, Alon Pinkas, and Dan Meridor are taking the pro-war dog and pony show on the road to the U.S. in the crucial September-October period. Which one of us will have the pleasure of seeing their shining faces and hearing their golden words?
The emissaries will address university students, public leaders and public opinion formers, including senators, Members of Congress, administration officials, governors, mayors, journalists, members of influential organizations and Jewish communities, church leaders and other community leaders. The lectures will be given in Washington, New York, Chicago, Boston and Atlanta, among other locations.
The idea is the brain-child of that master of international diplomacy, Avigdor Lieberman. Though the tour is being presented as standard hasbara (e.g. refuting prejudices against Israel, etc.) the real purpose of the visit is not mentioned: get Iran...
ENTIRE POST - http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2009/09/01/israels-pro-iran-war-dog-and-pony-show-coming-soon-to-a-jewish-community-near-you/
September 2, 2009 7:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Cordesman and a co-author released a study in March about an Israeli strike on Iranian nuclear facilities that showed clearly (though Cordesman tried to bury it somewhat) that it could not be done without US selective blindness to the use of Iraqi airspace on the way in and the active assistance of US air-refueling capability on the way out and probably on the way in. Or the use of air bases in Iraq for that refueling.
Israel does not have air refueling capability on it's own to pull this off, by a factor of 50%. attempts to argue that alternate routes across Turkey or over Saudi Arabia do not hold up to scrutiny both on range and opportunities to stage refueling planes. Alternative scenarios based on submarine launched attacks or drones refueling drones so as to go around Saudi Arabia via the Red Sea and the Persian Gulf similarly fall apart. Without direct US complicity a Israeli strike on Iran is a logistical impossibility. An inconvenient fact but clear from Cordesman's study. I am working from my phone and not able to supply a link but a search on 'cordesman Israel Iran nuclear' should pull it up.
AIPAC and the Neo-cons are pulling a huge bluff designed to get the US to provide the necessary cover and direct logistic support needed to pull this off under the line that they can just do this without us. They can't. Israel has the capacity to kick the crap out of everyone in the Arab world but as long as the US is in control of Iraqi airspace they can do nothing against Iran without our go ahead. Consult a map and Cordesman's study.
September 1, 2009 9:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Even with Saudi (or Turkish) agreement for Israeli use of their airspace for an attack on Iran, Israel still couldn't manage it without our active cooperation and participation.
This fevered OpEd lists some of the reasons:
Presient Obama’s Chicago-style political hardball has serious implications for Israel. Forcing Israel to “go it alone” with Iran by withholding targeting information, satellite images, over-flight permissions, technical help jamming air defenses – and a whole host of other behind-the-scenes assistance – reduces the chance of Israeli military success.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3770048,00.html
We could also decline to engage our Patriot batteries and X-Band radar installation deployed in Israel to help out with whatever missiles Iran launches Israel's way in retaliation.
The primary bulwark against attacks on Iran is in the Pentagon. A war on Iran would not only fuck up the ME, there would be repercussions in Afghanisatan and Pakistan as well.
Avigdor Lieberman wasn't bullshitting when he said that the latter two nations are a bigger threat (to Israel, too) than is Iran.
The IDF is to begin redistributing refurbished gasmasks in November.
September 1, 2009 9:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
MJ
Bottom line. We better start paying attention.
Yes and thanks for your efforts in this regard. Your "turf" is where lots of the action takes place.....
September 1, 2009 11:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh goody! International conspiracies!!! My favorite.
Ok here goes:
Its all about 2012. In 2011 the stimulus will be spent and the economy will still have 25% underemployment, the inflation caused by the FED's printing money to bail out goldman sachs will have hit ($20 loaf of bread) and then the finally the nuke will hit ______________ (choices- NY, SF, LA, Chicago, or Seattle, you know large liberal city).
This nuke will be untraceable but believed to be set by someone that Obama set free. Dick Cheney will ride to the rescue and win the emergency election (as constitutional lawyer Obama will refuse to suspend the elections). Then after he tortures some unrelated Arab looking folks he and his 3 horsemen will ride out and nuke Tehran with their extracted confessions.
Meantime ExXonmobile, BP-somthingorrather, Chevron-whatever, and the Saudi Kingdom will all post record setting profits. Million fold.
In 2013 Dick will be reelected Fuhrer by popular acclaim and the month of August renamed for him.
September 2, 2009 2:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
Bottom line is - nobody is paying attention.
Israel's massive nuclear arsenal is not sitting there for no reason. It will be used against Iran for the simple reason that Iran is considered by the Israelis as an existentialist threat.
The US needs to fully recognize that the Israeli state cares not one iota what the world or the UN thinks. Arrogance will drive the Likud government to mount an attack because they believe it will be just another commando raid on Entebbe, only a little more difficult.
Israel has been built-up by America, over the past decades of AIPAC influence, to be the estimated fourth or fifth most powerful nuclear entity in the world. We need to ask ourselves the reason and logic for this extraordinary situation given that Israel is, in fact, of no strategic importance whatsoever nor does it have any natural resources.
Israel's nuclear option is primed and ready for use and we can only now wait, impotently, to see what is in store for us in the months to come. We are all just pawns in a situation that has become way beyond our control.
September 2, 2009 2:26 AM | Reply | Permalink