Just how inept is Ross as a 'Mideast expert'?
Short answer: extremely.
In case anyone is in any doubt, they should read the transcript of what Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal said at the end of his meeting with Hillary Clinton in Washington yesterday.
The core of what he said there:
I would be remiss if I didn't express our thanks and appreciation to President Obama and to Secretary Clinton for their early and robust focus on trying to bring peace to the Middle East...
It is time for all people in the Middle East to be able to lead normal lives. Incrementalism and a step-by-step approach has not and-- we believe-- will not achieve peace. Temporary security, confidence-building measures will also not bring peace. What is required is a comprehensive approach that defines the final outcome at the outset and launches into negotiations over final status issues: borders, Jerusalem, water, refugees and security.
This is a resounding slap in the face for the approach of using lengthy "interim" periods and "confidence building measures" (CBMs) that was a hallmark of Israeli-Palestinian conflict management (not conflict termination) diplomacy, as practiced by Dennis Ross for eight years under Pres. Clinton.
CBMs, of course, were a concept first developed in great detail in US-Soviet diplomacy in the ramp-down phase of the Cold War. That, indeed, was the field in which Dennis got his core academic training. He later rebranded himself, never terribly credibly, as a "Middle East expert." His main credential in this new field ended up being the abysmal record he racked up as a failed "peacemaker" for those eight years in the Clinton administration.
Jerusalem-based Jewish People Policy Planning Institute from 2006 through earlier this year... Did that make him a "Middle East expert", I wonder?
This whole concept of CBMs has made an eery comeback into Washington's Israeli-Palestinian diplomacy since the arrival of Dennis Ross in the White House at the end of June.
Laura Rozen blogged last week that she had,
confirmed that President Barack Obama has sent letters to at least seven Arab and Gulf states seeking confidence-building measures toward Israel, which Washington has been pushing to agree to a freeze of Jewish settlements in the West Bank.One former senior U.S. official who was aware of the letters said they had been sent "recently" to seven Arab states, including the leaders of Bahrain, Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates. The letters reinforce "the Mitchell message re: the need for CBMs [confidence-building measures] in exchange for [settlement] freeze and to [get] peace talks restarted," the former senior official said by e-mail.
"These letters were sent some time ago," a White House official told Foreign Policy Sunday, when asked about them. "The president has always said that everyone will have to take steps for peace. This is just the latest instance of this sentiment."
The official declined to provide a date of the letters, but said, "they'd been reported before a month or two ago."
Coincidentally-- or not-- one of the big campaigns that AIPAC is currently running is to get US legislators to sign onto a letter "urging" Obama to push Arab states to give up-front CBMs to Israel...
Arab leaders and their citizens have seen this movie before.
In the 1990s, many Arab states moved to end the "secondary boycott" they had previously maintained against international companies doing business with Israel; and some, like Qatar, even took some other small steps toward "normalization" like opening an Israeli trade office in their capitals. That was entirely predicated on Israel making the real progress that was mandated by the Oslo Accord to concluding a final-status peace agreement with the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), before the defined deadline of May 1999.
Never happened. The deadline came and went. The Israeli government just went on waffling, with the ever-eager help of Dennis Ross in the White house. And the Israeli government also kept on shoe-horning additional tens of thousands of new illegal settlers into the occupied territories each year...
In the piece that Roger Cohen has in this weekend's NYT magazine on US policy toward Iran, there is a telling vignette that reveals just how deeply Dennis Ross does not qualify as anything even approaching a "Middle East expert":
On April 29, in Dammam, in Saudi Arabia's eastern province, Ross sat down with King Abdullah. He talked to a skeptical monarch about the Obama administration's engagement policy with Iran -- and talked and talked and talked. When the king finally got to speak, according to one U.S. official fully briefed on the exchange, he began by telling Ross: "I am a man of action. Unlike you, I prefer not to talk a lot." Then he posed several pointed questions about U.S. policy toward Iran: What is your goal? What will you do if this does not work? What will you do if the Chinese and the Russians are not with you? How will you deal with Iran's nuclear program if there is not a united response? Ross, a little flustered, tried to explain that policy was still being fleshed out.
Dennis Ross, let's remember, supposedly dealt closely with the Saudis throughout the eight years he was Pres. Clinton's chief Middle East adviser. He also dealt closely with them, though in a subordinate role, when he worked for Sec. of State James Baker during and after the 1990-91 Gulf crisis and war.
But then, he didn't even really know to deal with them at all, come 2009? He just talked (and talked and talked...) at the Saudi monarch-- and couldn't even deal with the few, to-the-point questions that the king came back to him with?
I don't know if he tried to raise the issue of CBMs-for-Israel with King Abdullah during that meeting. But evidently, this issue has been pitched to Riyadh as well as other Arab capitals in recent weeks.
And now, Prince Saud has come to Washington to give a definitive and very public answer on the CBMs question.
Of course, it riles the heck out of many Americans, including especially many members of Congress, that they can't just wave the wand of economic aid over the big Arab oil-exporting countries like Saudi Arabia to get to do what they (and AIPAC) want them to do....
Also significant: In that same State Department transcript, Sec. Clinton uses a significant-- and in my view, significantly flawed-- way to describe the US's role in the current Israeli-Palestinian pre-negotiation.
She said,
There is no substitute for a comprehensive resolution. That is our ultimate objective. In order to get to the negotiating table, we have to persuade both sides that they can trust the other side enough to reach that comprehensive agreement.
This is completely, still, that same "trust-building" or "confidence-building" approach to mediation/negotiation that was used to such dismally unsuccessful effect during the Bill Clinton administration when-- acting on Dennis's advice-- Pres. Clinton saw his role as only that of a facilitator trying to build "trust" between the two parties.
No. The US is not just a "facilitator". The US is a party with a strong and direct national interest in getting all the strands of the Arab-Israeli conflict speedily and finally resolved in a way that is sufficiently fair to all sides that the outcome is sustainable for many generations to come.
So the role of the US "mediator" is not just to "persuade" and nudge the countries to the point where they can "trust each other" (and to do this prior to the negotiation starting???) But rather, the US role should be to:
1. Reaffirm its own strong interest in a speedy, fair and sustainable end to all dimensions of the Israeli-Arab conflict;2. Reaffirm that the outcome it seeks is one based on international law and the longstanding resolutions 242 and 338 of the UN Security Council;
3. Affirm (for the first time in many decades) its readiness to use all the instruments of national power at its disposal to win the speedy, fair, and sustainable final peace agreements between Israel and all its Arab neighbors; and
4. Reaffirm that it stands ready to work with its partners in the Quartet to provide all the guarantees the parties might need regarding monitoring all steps of the (most likely phased) implementation of these peace agreements.
In other words, it is at that stage-- the stage of implementing the different phases of a final peace whose full content has already been agreed-- that the sides themselves can really start to build the "confidence" or trust of the other side.... And the US and its peace-monitoring partners can certainly help that process along.
But to imply that you need full trust between the two sides to the dispute before you expect them even to sit down at the peace table?? That's nuts!
The process of so-called "confidence building" that Dennis Ross was so happy to see dragging on for years and years in the 1990s did not end up building up any trust at all. Just the opposite. It built mistrust-- on both sides. Not least, because people still locked into the dispute on the ground had no idea where the final process was heading-- so every little altercation between them became a huge existential issue that had to be fought over "to the death."
And meanwhile, Ross's good friends in the Jewish People Policy Planning Institute were able to implant thousands of additional settlers into occupied Jerusalem and the rest of the West Bank. How "lucky" for them, eh?
This time, someone should tell Sec. Clinton-- and best of all her boss, the president-- that you don't need to build full trust between the sides before the negotiation starts.
What you need to build is a healthy and realistic recognition from each of the parties that:
* the US has its own strong interest in the success of this peacemaking project,* the US is prepared to use its national power to secure fair and sustainable final peace agreements between all the parties, and
* the US stands ready to use its national power to help guarantee the implementation of these agreements.
So now, Pres. Obama, let's get on with it.
I also note, parenthetically, that Saud al-Faisal seemed to be placing more emphasis on getting the final peace negotiations started than on getting Obama's demand for a complete Israeli settlement freeze implemented. I think that's the right emphasis.

















Great post.
Ross in not incompetent. He wants the process to be strung along so that sufficient facts on the ground can be established to force a bogus "peace deal" on the Palestinians.
Fortunately, the Saudis are tired of being played for fools.
August 3, 2009 6:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
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December 17, 2010 4:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
There are some useful thoughts and suggestions here, and some very odd omissions. Probably the biggest omission is the name George W. Bush. In between Dennis Ross's unsuccessful confident building measures under Bill Clinton, and his new efforts (too early to judge) under Barack Obama, we had eight years of confidence massacring blunders and supine bootlicking by Bush and Cheney, fully supported for all practical purposes by a U.S. Congress that dared not say a peep about the Mideast unless it was fully cleared by the propaganda machine dedicated to pretending there are no West Bank settler thugs, just monolithic brave suffering Israelis to whom America must forever subordinate all its real interests.
As I understand it, Ross -however burdened he may be by his dubious past baggage- works for Mitchell, H. Clinton, and Obama, not the other way around. If the shot-callers here want to build some confidence in America and around the world that our country is going to finally liberate itself from eight years of idiotic devotion to the West Bank ethnic cleansers, that strikes me as a perfectly sensible first step. Indeed, it is absurd to think of NOT insisting on it, strange to focus so totally about what could happen after the ship crew of USS Foreign Policy gets out from underneath a titanically monstrous albatross, and not about the albatross itself, and stranger still to close by "parenthetically" belittling the albatross.
August 3, 2009 6:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually the biggest omission of the post is the refusal to clearly state the demand that Arab states should not be required to do anything reciprocal to politically difficult for Israelis (although IMHO quite necessary) complete settlement freeze (that's what CBMs are all about). No mutual overflight rights, no trade, no curtailing of hostile murderous propaganda - nothing.
The other omission is the failure to demand clearly, rather than by equivocation, that the US use military pressure on Israel to make it do what the US wants. How else do you interpret this:
Obviously Ross and Clinton are impediments to this demand, therefore they are inept and must go.August 3, 2009 7:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
"politically difficult for Israelis (although IMHO quite unnecessary)"
parking lot in Jerusalem?
"hostile murderous propaganda"
like Pope taking Hezbollah leaders to Auschwitz to explain how to exterminate Jews?
More seriously, of late, there is no Palestinian terrorism. Something that is totally unappereciated, except as an opportinity to expand settlements in peace.
Anatol: if freezing settlements is so difficult, can Israel dismantle them? Right now, Israel has a choice: avoid short term political difficulties and maintain state of eternal war, or to go back to the original Zionist goal, which was to convert Jews into a NORMAL nation. Not locked into the situation of Sparta with helotes.
August 3, 2009 10:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Piotr,
No, Hezbollah doesn't need any explanations of that topic, so dear to their hearts. Rather like the one in Palestinian school textbooks and TV shows for children, funded by UN and European Union.So the fence does stop the terror, right? Nice to know.Actually I agree, Israel should end the occupation and get at last an internationally recognized border for a Jewish-majority state, and Palestinians - their own largely demilitarized state. The problem IMHO is that nobody on the Arab side, and a politically weak plurality on the Israeli side want that solution.Reading comprehension problems? I said "necessary", not "unnecessary".
August 4, 2009 10:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's only the US that has been incapable of seeing and/or admitting the Israeli strategy over the last 35 years or so.
The whole Arab world sees it and now knows that with every year the Palestinian position becomes less resolvable.
For everybody's sakes Israel needs to be reined in and a realistic and very hard-nosed solution found.
And that means the US being a broker not a patsy.
August 3, 2009 11:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rahm is a big Dennis Ross fan, and has said that he would carry his luggage anywhere he wants to go. I'm guessing he'd carry our Israel policy anywhere Ross wants it to go also.
Blame for failed baby steps can be deflected by Obama, while he keeps up his perfect record of supporting every major nefarious lobby in Washington.
August 4, 2009 12:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
An incisive piece of writing by Helena Cobban
CBMs (Constructive Bullshit Methodologies) are an outdated tactical tool adopted by AIPAC to perpetuate a violently undemocratic strategy the sole aim of which is to extend Israel’s hegemony in the Middle East.
In a year when a black Democrat could humiliate the Bush-Cheney, political gravy-train and reach out to the entire electorate to achieve the presidency of the most powerful state in the world, one has to ask for how much longer are 305 million Americans going to accept the political machinations of a lobby group whose sole aim is to control the Middle East and its oil supplies for the exclusive benefit of its supporters to the clear detriment of the whole of the United States.
August 4, 2009 2:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
George Mitchell used CBMs in North Ireland with some effectiveness and got a deal done there for which he deserves an honorable mention along with the two local leaders who actually got the Noble Peace Prize.
Of course, the Mideast is NOT North Ireland, but CBMS are not the great obstacle to peace that they are made out to be by Ms Cobban. A far bigger obstacle, as one commenter already well expressed it, is the U.S. having been "patsy" not a "broker" for far too long. The risk of brokers screwing up pales in comparison to risk of them becoming patsys again. Maybe they really are patsys still, but I think it is too early to make that call and definitely way too early to make the opposite call and focus exclusively on the tactical downsides of CBMs.
August 4, 2009 5:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's true. CBMs are not the primary obstacle to peace.
That description must be awarded to the American electorate that allows its hard-won democratic system of government be hijacked by a small group of political money-men who 'buy' our legislators like the rest of us buy a Coke.
If we only appreciated how many lives were given in order that we could live in a democracy - a system of government by the people for the people - now thrown away by default to a lobby group! You couldn't make it up.
August 4, 2009 6:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
If we have been patsies to anyone, it has been to the Saudis, as we have kowtowed to their hegemony of oil power for these last thirty-forty years. We need to wean ourselves from oil-addiction, especially dependency on those OPECish players in the middle east, before their kingdom of cards collapses and we are left to deal with more radical (less profit-oriented) elements of that middle east world.
As for the thorn-in-the-side west bank contusion-- the "ethnic cleansing" settlers and the whining Pals--they all need to grow up and learn to live together, if not as friends, at least as tolerant neighbors. Perhaps Mr. Mitchell's experience in Ireland can be instructive if he is allowed to persist in his strategies.
Expecting the settlers to withdraw is unrealistic. Good fences make good neighbors, at least for awhile, until west-bankers of both stripes can borrow a cup of sugar every now and then. Blessed are the peacemakers. If Dennis Ross is a peacemaking confidence-builder then God bless 'im! If our President is a big-stick-toting peacemaker who must continually apply pressure for new stringencies, then good for him.
Let the good cop and the bad cop maintain a two-pronged strategy until the stalemate breaks down. And if the Saudi king cannot tolerate our pleas for cooperation, let him take his oil and pump it back down where the sun doesn't shine.
August 4, 2009 8:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
If we have been patsies to anyone, it has been to the Saudis, as we have kowtowed to their hegemony of oil power for these last thirty-forty years. We need to wean ourselves from oil-addiction,
Boy, *there's* a change in the subject! Nice avoidance!
August 4, 2009 11:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ross is poster child for Middle East failure. This we-must-first-build-trust is an AIPAC/Mossad/Likud formula for inaction. And nobody does inaction like Dennis Ross!
We did not vote for this.
Obama's job is to fix this thing, not study it. If Rahm loves Dennis Ross, he should build him a new carport. And keep him the hell away from things he'll ruin (again). And Barack needs to have a talk with Hillary!
August 4, 2009 11:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Peace process", "confidence building measures", and "won't negotiate with terroists" in the Middle East context are all diplomatic double-speak for maintaining the status quo. They buy time for the parties to continue to pursue low-intensity conflict indefinitely in a struggle to improve their final negotiating position.
August 4, 2009 12:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
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February 2, 2011 5:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
CBM is just a euphemism for "Israel gradually gets everything it wants and needs in exchange for agreeing to talk about issues, but never really doing anything or giving anything up".
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If the Palestinians giving up more than half of their UN mandated country and recognizing Israel in its self-created 1967 borders did not build confidence, nothing ever will. Israel has not complied with any of its commitments or agreements yet. No one should be asked to give up anything until Israel actually does the many things it "agreed to do" already. buy aluminum cases
February 2, 2011 5:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Samarra is a city in north-central Iraq but unfortunately has bad credit mortgage rates. " An appointment in Samarra" is a phrase indicating the inevitability of death in an old Arabic tale (first in Eng. apparently in W. Somerset Maugham's play "Sheppey," 1933), in which a man meets Death one day in the marketplace in Baghdad and flees him/her to Samarra. When questioned, Death replies, "I was astonished to see him in Baghdad, for I had an appointment with him tonight in Samarra."
Inevitable #1. Israelis and their American supporters have to accept the reality that Eretz Israel aint gonna happen.
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Inevitable #2. Arabs have to accept the reality that until they get to match israel's military capabilities "sweet talk will get them nada".
Inevitable #3. Americans have to accept the reality that their
"super power" influence and prestige are no longer what they used to be and therefore the Ross's, Indyks, et "amies" policies have already met their Samarra's.
February 2, 2011 5:58 PM | Reply | Permalink