Good Medicine: Why Not for Everyone?
As part of his health care package, President Obama proposed creating an independent commission of medical experts that would determine the medical procedures for which Medicare will pay. The reason is that patients now receive many costly procedures that provide little or no medical benefit. If we can reduce this waste, we can have large savings, while possibly even improving health outcomes. President Obama describes this as promoting good medicine.
He has a case, but there is one problem with this picture. If the plan is to promote good medicine, why are we just doing it for the elderly receiving Medicare? Why don't we want good medicine for everyone?
Specifically, the government could apply the experts' judgments on appropriate procedures to any insurance plan that receives government support.
This would mean that any plan that enrolls patients with government subsidies would be bound by the expert panel's judgment. If we are confident that our experts will be acting based on sound medical evidence, why shouldn't their assessment apply everywhere?
In addition to the "why not" question, there is also a very important reason why we should want everyone else to be treated like Medicare beneficiaries: quality assurance. There is a disturbing tendency among our Washington elites to treat seniors as a species apart. For example, people who complain about high tax rates on the wealthy have no trouble proposing means-testing schemes for Social Security and Medicare that would impose far higher effective tax rates on middle income retirees.
If the same rules for medical procedures were applied to everyone as to the elderly, it would be far less likely that genuinely useful procedures would be excluded from coverage just to save the government a few dollars. With far more eyes on the process, and far more interested parties, we could have much greater confidence that the panel's decisions were really based on sound evidence.
This raises another important issue about these sorts of medical panels: conflicts of interest. Top medical researchers have a bad habit of taking large consulting fees from folks like pharmaceutical companies, medical supply companies and insurance companies. In many cases, they even hold stakes in these companies.
These medical experts are undoubtedly all very honorable people. However, it simply is not fair to ask the public to trust the health of their loved ones to a medical expert who got a $50,000 check from a company that stands to profit or lose large sums of money depending on their decision.
Any panel must come with strict conflict-of-interest guidelines. For example, something like a complete ban, for at least the prior five years, on any fees from any company directly impacted by the panel's decision would be a good start.
Of course, strict conflict of interest rules would make it difficult to put together a panel of experts, since virtually all of our top medical researchers routinely accept fees of various sorts from companies in the health sector. The solution might be to put less compromised foreign researchers on these panels until we can produce a crop of domestic researchers with more integrity.
But if the choice is between no panel or a panel comprised of people on the payroll of the drug companies and their ilk, then no panel would be the better outcome. The fact that putting together a conflict-free panel is actually a problem is a testament to the corruption of our health care system. In the country as large as the United States, there should not be any difficulty finding top experts who survive on their salary as a researcher. The vast majority of us survive on considerably less money.
There is one other point about this process that should be beaten back with a sledgehammer. Nothing in this picture has anything to do with rationing. The question here is what procedures government-subsidized insurance will cover. Everyone in the country is free to buy nongovernment-subsidized insurance or pay for any procedure they want out of their own pocket. In that respect, the system is just like the one we have now: If you can afford it, you can get it. Those shrieking about "rationing" are just using scare words to avoid a real debate.
In short, President Obama's plan to weed out ineffective and wasteful medical procedures is a good one. But we should not single out Medicare beneficiaries as guinea pigs in this adventure, and definitely must ensure that the people to whom we entrust our health are not on the industry payroll.




















The problem with this picture is that it is not motivated by "good medicine"; it's motivated by appeasing the political opposition.
The system is corrupted by money, and the solution is corrupted by politics.
July 27, 2009 11:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Lets get past the happy talk and understand what this is. In large part it is meant to save money by telling granny that she is too old for a hip replacement.
Boards are not capable of making a reality based decision for individuals but only for group averages. Some 90 year olds may be too old, and some not. The board will set an age limit for all, even though all are not even close to being in the same condition, much less in similar condition.
Since we all or will be health care consumers and almost all pay for health care one way or the other, then the number of citizens who are conflict-free is zero.
July 27, 2009 11:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not sure how I feel about this panel idea because we're headed into an era of more individualized medicine. I'm just not sure the averages are going to serve us well.
July 27, 2009 11:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Since it is too hot for me to worry much about being fair to present company, let's rewrite that one a little, shall we:
Happy days.
July 27, 2009 12:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you just stop and think about the headline: good medicine, why not for everyone?
What's a good medicine? What's a bad medicine? Does "everyone" get only bad medicine now?
Completely misleading, dishonest post.
July 27, 2009 12:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, it's not a completely misleading and dishonest post, is it? Dean says, "If the plan is to promote good medicine..." That's a big "If." I can't presume to speak for Dean Baker, of course, but I didn't read the title as explicitly as you did. I read it as, "Let's assume the healthcare reforms are based on a good-faith concept of promoting 'good medicine' and then explore this idea of what 'good medicine' means."
Perhaps I'm completely wrong or perhaps he meant something other than what you or I interpreted. Perhaps he intentionally left "good medicine" vague so that we do stop and think about our assumptions. Just as you did. ;-)
July 27, 2009 1:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
The headline of this post suggests that some people are getting a "bad medicine" while some other people are getting a "good medicine". Why not give EVERYONE a good medicine?
It's a typical pitchfork trick. It sets the stage for the rest, which becomes instantly clear in the very first sentence of the post: the "independent" panel (aka rationing board), that will work hard to give everyone the GOOD medicine.
Recall Obama's interview last week, where he claimed that evil profit-driven doctors are going to recommend taking out your child's tonsils because they wanna walk away with your money.
All this "blah blah" is nothing but a carefully camouflaged double-speak for rationing.
Anything the "independent" panel deems too costly versus the holy grail of "per capita costs like the rest of the developed world" is going to be proclaimed as bad medicine imposed by the evil doctors.
This post is a simple re-statement of the talking points. And for the above reasons, it is misleading and dishonest, in my opinion.
July 27, 2009 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, you hit the hot button with THIS one! There ARE medical procedures that are done without consideration of the ability to benefit, and there ARE ways of objectively identifying who is most likely able to benefit from a particular treatment. And getting unnecessary treatments don't always equate to enjoying life more.
My mother recently died (she was 86 and had lung cancer; had smoked for 70 years). We (she and her children) declined chemotherapy. She lived more than 2 years after she was diagnosed and had a pretty good quality of life. She was never short of breath until her last 10 days, and that was relieved by oxygen and she was kept comortable. I have no doubt that had she received chemotherapy she would have died earlier, and with bouts of gastric distress, greater weight loss, as well as other things.
Chemo would have been the more expensive option: First of all she would have needed to have a lung biopsy to find out the exact type of tumor - an obviously invasive procedure, with its own possible complications and side-effects. But there are those who would swear that because chemo is more expensive; because it is supposed to provide a cure, it must be better, and so would insist upon it. If she had been 70, I would have been open to it; she was active and engaged at 70 and weighed more (so losing some would not have further threatened her health). She was simply too frail to get enough benefit to put her through the rigors of chemo, and I am certain that she had a better two years because of that decision.
What happens when this subject is brought up is that many people think that "granny will be denied her hip surgery," when it is the elderly who usually break their hips, and they are the ones who do benefit from such surgery; denial of this is very unlikely, considering the statistics that show good results in many elderly patients. They conjure up scenarios whereby age alone is used to deny even the most basic of medical care. But it is not based on any sound foundation.
I am as concerned as anyone else that any decision-making body should have good intentions rather than money-savings when making these decisions, and I don't have confidence in this being done perfectly. I am worried about it not being done objectively, with an edge given to the patient probably doing well, rather than probably doing poorly. I acknowledge that there are serious potential problems.
I just disagree that the very concept of "ability to benefit" should be tagged as the beginning of a slippery slope. Sometimes that old Greek guy knew what he was talking about when he said, "First, do no harm."
July 27, 2009 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I get rather tired of reading about people who are concerned that the government will deny them their Laetrile or liposuction.
C
July 27, 2009 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Hillarycare was defeated by the middle class, perhaps a perceived policy of "creeping euthanasia" might galvanize seniors against Obamacare.
July 28, 2009 12:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wake up sleepyheads! Medicine is practiced one doctor and one patient at a time. No doctor needs a "panel of experts" to tell him whats in the best interest of his patient. But a panel is a great curtain to hide behind when youre trying to perform a ration screw.
BTW I know of no MD who wasnt totally outraged by Obamas wednesday comment that doctors perform unnecessary surgery as a matter of protocol.
July 28, 2009 10:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Remember that old phrase: "It's between a woman and her doctor?" D'ya think?
July 28, 2009 1:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
No doctor needs a "panel of experts" to tell him whats in the best interest of his patient. But a panel is a great curtain to hide behind when youre trying to perform a ration screw.
BTW I know of no MD who wasnt totally outraged by Obamas wednesday comment that doctors perform unnecessary surgery as a matter of protocol
Nina - As a physician familiar with the evidence from regional disparities in the choice and cost of treatments unrelated to quality, I can say that there is now almost universal agreement among the experts that panels of this type are needed. Very few physicians know the evidence well enough to be sure of what's in the best interests of their patients, although they have the patient's best interest at heart. Rather, most follow standard practice in their locality, and it is often not the best practice.
Rather than being outraged by Obama's comment that doctors perform unnecessary surgery as a matter of protocol, this is known to be a widespread phenomenon - again, not because the doctors are ill-intentioned, but because they are doctors, not scientists, and therefore unfamiliar with the data on the subject. We've seen this in the past with hyseterctomies, Caesarian sections, and the like, but it extends to a multitude of procedures. Only through physician education can these practices be changed. The panel concept is not only important, but will be essential if we are to retain useful treatments while eliminating useless ones in an era where we can't keep both.
July 29, 2009 12:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Fred, thank you for giving a very good response to the nonsense above. One additional factor, based on my own experience, is that doctors, being people, tend to chose their medicine and stick with that choice, even when research demonstrates that the choice is not the best. Doctors also get wooed by the drug salesmen, and, again being human, learn to trust certain ones, using their drugs in preference to others that might be better or just as good, but cheaper.
Kaiser is one example of a health care organization that does attempt to guide its physicians towards both better treatments, and better, or less costly drugs. Since Kaiser emphasizes preventative care, and their profit depends on keeping their consumers healthy, they have a big incentive to find the most effective and least expensive treatments. If it isn't obvious, I am a Kaiser patient.
Kaiser has never turned down my request for a specific treatment. But, their practice is to thoroughly discuss my treatment options with me, making sure any decision I make is made with full knowledge of the alternatives. I have appreciated that greatly, and have avoided a surgery I wanted badly, when my doctor took the time to educate me about the options.
I see the Kaiser model as one very good approach any health care reform plan should seriously consider.
July 29, 2009 12:34 AM | Reply | Permalink