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Israel: On The Occupation, It Is All By Itself

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It had to happen. Once the right wing of the pro-Israel community in the United States--and their Israeli allies--realized that President Barack Obama was serious about pursuing peace, they would go on the attack.

Fortunately, the most virulent attacks have been limited to the extreme right in both countries. These are the same people who attacked Obama with vitriol during the campaign. For them, it was enough to know that he is black, had a Muslim father and had said that the United States should be an "honest broker" in its dealings with Israelis and Palestinians.

The extremists hated him before he was elected and they hate him even more now. The Cairo speech received universal acclaim except from those who clamor for a war of civilizations with Islam.

Add to that President Obama's demand that Israel lives up to its commitments regarding the settlements and you have all the ingredients necessary to drive the right mad with rage.

And others too. Some "mainstream" leaders have expressed "concern" that the anti-Obama view has spilled over to more normal pro-Israel types. They say that they are hearing anti-Obama rumblings from their friends.

Those who believe that Israel's behavior should never be publicly questioned by a president are unhappy (especially because under the last two administrations it never happened). Fortunately, this is a tiny minority of the Jewish community.

We know how small a minority from the election results last year. No doubt there were some Jewish voters who actually believed that Barack Obama would be as slavishly supportive of the hawkish position on Israel as George W. Bush, but no more than a few.

The overwhelming majority understood that the candidate, who won the Democratic Party nomination, in large part, by opposing the Iraq war and supporting dialogue with Iran, was unlikely to be utterly uncritical of the Israeli government. Nonetheless, 78 percent of Jews voted for Obama.

Most of the Jews who voted against Obama did so not because they are single-issue Israel voters, but rather because they are Republicans, and rather traditional ones. In fact, historically, the usual Republican Jewish vote was higher than in 2008, indicating that Israel was not a factor in the 22 percent McCain vote.

Nonetheless, some establishment voices are complaining and acting surprised that President Obama is acting like candidate Obama. The head of the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish Organizations confronted President Obama at a White House meeting this week and charged him with allowing the impression that there was "daylight" between the U.S. and Israeli position on settlements. He did not say that he opposed Obama's stance, he just wanted President Obama to keep his differences with Israel private.

The president rebuked him. "For eight years, there was no light between the United States and Israel, and nothing got accomplished," he said.

This was a moment for the history books. A president actually had the audacity to call in the pro-Israel leadership and say what he actually believes. Not only that, it wasn't just the usual crowd that was in the room. Also in attendance were representatives of groups that do not support the Netanyahu government's hard line.

Not surprisingly, the status quo crowd is upset. The publisher of the New Republic, Martin Peretz, who opposes negotiations with the Palestinians, wrote that it is "haughty" of President Obama to criticize Israeli policies. It is an odd word to use,. Obama is, after all, the President of the United States. Presidents criticize policies of other countries without normally being called out for being "haughty" which basically means "uppity." But then, for some, Obama is no normal president.

William Kristol, former aide to Vice President Dan Quayle and now editor of the Weekly Standard, accused Obama (and his top aides) of "chutzpah" in daring to challenge the Israeli government's views. He accused President Obama, Rahm Emanuel, and David Axelrod of having never "had to grapple with life and death decisions." They only know "talk and spin and positioning."

For Kristol, of course, this contrasts with President George W. Bush who, he wrote, will go down in history as one of our greatest presidents. Kristol, who was one of the most most influential cheerleaders for the Iraq war, has grappled with "life and death decisions" and made only wrong ones.

These people know no shame. Or humility. After leaving as their legacy the worst foreign policy debacle in American history--and 4,231 American dead--one would think they would hesitate before advising Israel to resist the possibility of peace.

But being a neoconservative means never having to say you're sorry. It just means planning the next war (Good Morning, Tehran).

I think it is particularly galling for the president's critics that this administration stands as one in support of his policies. Gone are the days when President George W. Bush and Secretary of State Colin Powell would enunciate policies only to have White House aide Elliot Abrams get on the phone and tell the Israelis to ignore them. A few of these guys had hoped that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton would support them against her chief. That hasn't happen, and won't--which drives them to distraction.

And why?

What is it that Obama has done to Israel that is so terrible? He has simply re-stated policies that have been in place for years. The United States has always opposed settlements and it has always demanded that illegal outposts be dismantled. The only difference between Obama and his predecessors is that he is not backing down. He may even succeed in achieving his goals.

And how, pray tell, would that be bad for Israel? The settlement enterprise is a disaster and everyone knows it. I have no doubt that Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, if he could, would love to make the settlers disappear. They have been the bane of the lives of every prime minister since the first settlement was tragically approved forty years ago.

Imagine an Israel without settlements. It would be an Israel that could focus on its own problems at home. It could focus on improving public health, education, and scientific research, and not squander its energy on defending a doomed enterprise.

Its armed forces could focus on defending the state itself, not on figuring out how to rescue settlers (some of whom have physically attacked the soldiers) who choose to live in the midst of an Arab population that hates them. It would not be dispatching its eighteen-year olds to police West Bank cities or blocking needed supplies from getting into Gaza.

There is not one Israeli--or one friend of Israel in the diaspora--who would deny Israel the right, the obligation, to defend its people by whatever means necessary. That right does not apply to defending the conquests that have cost Israel so much of its support in recent years (including within the American Jewish community).

To put it simply, President Obama will be doing Israel a huge favor if he can lead it to ending the occupation. The settlers, and their supporters, would preserve their colonies at the cost of losing a Jewish state. Thank God, neither Barack Obama--nor Rahm Emanuel nor David Axelrod--share that view.

And neither, we learned this week, do mainstream (right, left, and center) American Jewish organizations. When it comes to preserving the occupation, Israel stands alone.


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MJ: You are on fire this week.

Now if only Abbas opposed the Occupation as much as you.....

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MB,
I'm alot more energetic than Abbas. The guy is tired!

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Not that I blame him. Palestinians must be bone weary after decade after decade of this and, despite some good intentions, it only changes for the worse.

But Obama is saying the right stuff. Don't underestimate how remarkable it is for a President even to express empathy for Palestinians. I think the last one who did was Chester Arthur.

And mmaybe not even him. :-)

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And when a two-state solution does occur, I do hope that the State of Palestine has a Jewish population of at least 10%, just a the State of Israel has an Arab population of 20%. The truly religious Jews (or secular who want cheap housing) should stay so long as they are not armed and terrorizing their Arab neighbors. The Jews could travel into Israel to work like many people cross the international bridge into Mexico every day. Or they could build businesses in Palestine.

As you know, I think the concept of two states with protected minorities would be good for both states.

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It's not just the Palestinians who are bone weary of this, as you are surely aware, as various Israeli peace proposals have been met with stony resistance. But that doesn't fit with the preferred narrative...

And as for MB's oft-repeated contention that Abbas "collaboration" (my word paraphrasing the sentiment) hasn't gained the people of the West Bank bupkes, as well as MJ's statement that it only changes for the worse, perhaps you failed to see today's front page NYT story by Ethan Bronner, Security and Economic Revival Raise Hopes in the West Bank? But again, such positive developments falling outside the preferred narrative are ignored or dismissed (I can just hear the comeback that Bronner is a shill for the Zionist Times). http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/17/world/middleeast/17westbank.html?_r=1&ref=world

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Why do you continually quote Zionists as evidence that Zionism is not so bad for Palestinians?

It's funnny, actually. For a quick fisking of Mr. Bonner (unfrtunately without paragraphy breaks), please see: http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2009/07/ethan-bronner-what-have-you-done-for.html

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And now, without typos:

Why do you continually quote Zionists as evidence that Zionism is not so bad for Palestinians?

It's funny, actually. For a quick fisking of Mr. Bonner (unfortunately, without paragraph breaks), please see: http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2009/07/ethan-bronner-what-have-you-done-for.html

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Mmmm. Dubbed American blockbusters and espresso machines. Life under permanent foreign occupation sure sounds sweet.
Sorry, Armchair. I read both Bronner's piece and the Angry Arab's, and I gotta go with the angry guy.
The New York Times headline talks of "raising hopes," and Bronner gets around to spelling out those hopes by his fifth paragraph: they are that Mahmoud Abbas can be sold to the Palestinians as a legitimate leader.
Forget for a moment that his mandate has lapsed, so he's no longer really president of Palestine.
One of the positive things Bronner cites -- his crushing of all demos opposing Israel's Gaza war -- shows how tough a sell Abbas is going to be.
But that's the Israeli-U.S. marketing pitch: "Things could be worse; you could be living in Gaza."
Bronner almost admits it: "Meanwhile, the Israeli-led economic siege of Gaza continues, letting in only humanitarian goods. That sets the desired contrast between the territories into sharp relief but causes enormous suffering and anger."
Get that? "The desired contrast!" The enormous suffering and anger? Collateral damage.
On the bright side, the IMF -- that totally neutral body -- predicts a 7% boost in GDP for the West Bank, glossing over the fact that the expansion or contraction of the Palestinian economy occurs totally at the whim of Israeli officials who control all border crossings, sea and airspace.
And what's the next priority for the PA? According to the Israeli general Bronner quotes, it's "courts, prisons and trained judges." That's what the Pals can look forward to: the outsourcing to them of their own subjugation.
Let me reiterate something I believe I've said to you before: any rationalization for a half-century spent occupying another people is bullshit. End this infamy now.

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Excellent. Concise. And deadly.

I have post envy.

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Yeah, I caught that bit about the desired contrast--the NYT admitting that the US and Israel have been deliberately inflicting suffering on over one million people in order to teach them a lesson. I'm waiting for Tom Friedman to write a column expressing outrage over this --he got upset over the movement in Great Britain to boycott Israeli universities a couple of years ago, saying it was an anti-semitic idea, so I'm sure his lack of outrage over the Gaza blockade is just an oversight on his part.

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"When it comes to preserving the occupation, Israel stands alone"

I assume that you mean alone together with AIPAC - as in two testicles together and inseparable within a scrotum.

Only difference being that the latter are integral to the giving of life, whilst the former ..

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bluecanary: are you in fact the former ColinDaleofLondon?

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Yes, we belong to the same Lodge.

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OMG lol.

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Great post! You are correct as to Elliott Abrams, but "Pricky" Dick Cheney is also to blame.

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A savvy and salient analysis. Thanks.

One small quibble:

"Being a neoconservative means never having to say you're sorry. It just means planning the next war"

Not quite. Being a neo-con (which in most cases means being a chickenhawk) means planning the next STUPID war that OTHER people (but not the chickenhawk bunglers) will die in.

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"It just means planning the next war"

Of course, that is using 'planning' in the loosest, or most perverted, although typical, definition of the word. Wars make money for their friends and mask the limitations of capitalism. Our loss in Vietnam was only a bad thing in that it would take almost 2 decades before they could make money via the same method again. A person can only live so well on a war that never gets hot.

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1.) Our President is performing a sensible role in this dispute. Thank you, MJ, for supporting him in his well-chosen position.
2.) So looking ahead a bit, assuming that West Bank and Gaza issues could ever be resolved in an authentic two-state arrangement-- how would that scenario play out in the administration of Jerusalem and Mt. Zion/Al Aqsa?

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Thanks. I'll keep plugging away. Life is alot easier when you have the President on your side!

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I voted for Obama, but the problem I have with Obama right now is that while he is putting a lot of pressure on Israel with regards to the settlements, I don't hear of him putting any pressure on the Palestinians or the Arab countries to recognize Israel as a Jewish state and put the pressure on them to accept refugees into their countries.

Israel has absorbed Jewish refugees from all over the world, including 1 million who were chased out of Arab countries since 1948.

I also want to say you are in a fantasy world or horribly mis-informed if you think Israel could just un-occupy the west bank.

It's time you faced the truth of why peace has been so elusive. The root of the problem is not Israel's occupation of the west bank. It is the refusal of the Palestinians and Arabs to recognize the right of the Jewish people in its historic homeland.

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Some evidence of deeper commitments to evolving priorities is beginning to emerge. For example, Crown Prince of Bahrain, Shikh Salman bin Hamad al-Khalifa's recent Washington Post op-ed...,

Essentially, we have not done a good enough job demonstrating to Israelis how our initiative can form part of a peace between equals in a troubled land holy to three great faiths. Others have been less reticent, recognizing that our success would threaten their vested interest in keeping Palestinians and Israelis at each other's throats. They want victims to stay victims so they can be manipulated as proxies in a wider game for power. The rest of us -- the overwhelming majority -- have the opposite interest....

Some Arabs, simplistically equating communication with normalization, may think we are moving too fast toward normalization. But we all know that dialogue must be enhanced for genuine progress. We all, together, need to take the first crucial step to lay the groundwork to effectively achieve peace. So we must all invest more in communication.

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The Palstinians recognized Israel at Oslo in 1993. That recognition holds (otherwise Israel would not negotiate with them, which they have done since 1993).
The Palestinians will NEVER recognize Israel as a Jewish state which is a ridiculous new demand designed to prevent an agreement. Countries are not recognized as anything. They are simply recognized.

As to the Jews who fled Arab states as a result of Arab fury caused by the establishment of Israel, they are not homeless. They have a country. Palestinians don't.

And, last, the Israelis will leave the West Bank. It is a colonial enterprise and will end.


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I keep asking my in-laws to admit they were not born in and in fact never lived in Jerusalem and Bethlehem, respectively.

Alas, they have photos. Facts are inconvenient things.

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Yassir Arafat merely said that "The PLO recognizes the right of the State of Israel to exist in peace and security." Which is not the same as recognizing Israel as a Jewish state. You say the Palestinians will NEVER recognize Israel as a Jewish state and I say that is why there never will be peace until they do.

You say it is a ridiculous new demand designed to prevent an agreement but I say it more clearly says Israel is still waiting for the Palestinians to recognize that Israel is here to stay as a Jewish state.

You say the Palestinians are homeless, but they are not, When Israel was created so was Jordan. Jordan is the Palestinian state. Jordan does not want the Palestinians back. Jordan is very happy to have those Palestinians where they are.

You should read the words of he words of Fatah activist Kifah Radaydeh, who was interviewed on PA TV.
"...we perceive peace as one of the strategies, but we say that all forms of the struggle exist, and we do not rule out the possibility of the armed struggle or any other struggle. The struggle exists in all its forms, on the basis of what we are capable of at a given time, and according to what seems right...
"It has been said that we are negotiating for peace, but our goal has never been peace. Peace is a means; the goal is Palestine (i.e., the land from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea)."  
http://www.imra.org.il/story.php3?id=44470
 
See here for the interview on Youtube:  http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=Qc-7GK6F4RI

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mk27 - Why the emphasis on Palestinian recognition of Israel as a Jewish state. They recognize Israel as a state. We did not demand Jewish recognition of Egypt or Jordan to sign peace agreements. Also it has never come up in peace talks with Syria. As Abbas has said, Israel can call itself anything it wants. Israel's registration with the UN only says Israel - not the Jewish Republic of Israel. If Israel wants to recognize itself as Jewish it will have to change it's official name.

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mk27,
Everything you write is propaganda. Hang on to it.

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MJ,
I understand how you feel. It hurts when facts get in the way of your opinions.

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The truth is it only takes one to start a fight, but once started, it takes cooperation from both to end it.

What I find lacking in Mr Rosenbergs analysis is any recognition of this simple truth. For as long as I've been following this issue the word from the far left (and I consider myself center-left) is that there would be peace if only Israel would "get serious" about it and if only the United States would stop supporting Israel "unconditionally", but I don't believe Israel has ever not been serious about peace, and I don't believe the US has ever been uncritical of Israeli policy. What's been lacking for 60 years and longer is cooperation from the Arab side of the equation. It's the Palestinians who are not serious about making peace, and its the Arab League who should be criticized for supporting Palestinians unconditionally.

Well, that is you call driving them to squander generation after generation fighting an unwinable war "support". I don't, but the "pro-Palestinian" side of the argument doesn't seem able to see that aspect of their tragedy.

I don't believe building an apartment building in a suburb of Southern Jerusalem is a serious obsticle to peace even if you do call it a "settlement". If it were, it would have been raided at Oslo, or Arafat would have brought it up instead of just walking out of the summit at Camp David back in 2000 under the Clinton administration.

Israel has its responsibilities in making peace, certainly nobody denies that, but any analysis that doesn't also recognize Palestinian responsibilites and Palestinian intransigents is inherently flawed.

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I meant to say "raised" at Oslo, not raided. My appologies for any confusion caused by that typo.

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I don't see where the Palestinians have showed they want peace and in truth have showed only that their(hudna) truce is the lull before the next battle.Why can't they, the Pals,created as a group out of new immigrants from the demise of the Ottoman empire and Bedouins living on the swampland under the leadership of nazi inspired mufti Haj amin Husseni and his student, Egyptian born Yasir Arafat and Abu Mazen (Abbas) who immersed their newly formed Palestinian Liberation group in Nazi ideology,why can't they simply recognize Israel instead of an enduring commitment to armed struggle and Jihad.Since there was no Palestinian national consciousness before Israel, why the concentration on the settlements and occupation when there was never a palestinian consciousness there before.In truth, prior to 48, the Jews were called Palestinian and there was no Palestinian arab nation!The nazi's understood that if one says an untruth enough, it becomes a truth.Calling Israel an occupier and concentrating on settlements does not promote peace.If this author wanted to promote peace he would encourage the Pals to break from their Jihadist/nazi vow as written in Hamas'charter that they will never recognize a Jewish/non Islamic state in the ME.Minorities do not do well under Islamic regimes because when one group believes their God reigns supreme over the other interpretations of God and the rule of law so precious in democratic western society, every one loses.Freedoms of press,speech, gay and women right,cultural diversity is not a gift to be taken lightly.The events of Iran are an example of this as journalist,bloggers,protesters are jailed and killed and under their theology Iranian young women in prison are raped before their executions so they will go to hell and not heaven. Israel/the Jews will never submit and stand in the way of an evil ideology that has jumped from nazi Germany to the Palestinians by way of the MuftiHaj Husseni who gave Hitler and Eichmann the idea of the final solution, the gassing of the Jews as a means to prevent them from reaching the holy land. The Palestinians are taught evil, they are not taught Jewish history but are told lies and myths about Jews in order to keep them immersed in a culture of hate. They are taught to suicide bomb,armed resistence and to never recognize Israel. They need a true teacher and a true history.the Pals need to be taught meditation techniques so they can learn to listen to the voice of their own soul not the fiery rhetoric of their nazi inspired political and religious leaders.Jerusalem is the first and only holy city of Jews and Christians and Mohammed who never went to Jerusalem and never mentioned it in the Koran pointed to Mecca and Medina as being their holy cities. I think its time the free world starts to wake up and understand that the Islamic caliphate will not only stop with those areas declared Islamic in the ME but will spread to those areas in Europe and beyond(which it already has)! Israel wanted peace and in 67 got war from the arab nations.The Pals already have 2 states and have not made peace.Jordan is 100% Palestinian and was their designated country.Gaza is their second country and for 8 years they threw rockets at Israel without an Israeli response.They chose a leadership whose charter calls for the destuction of Israel,What makes Obama,Axelrod Emanual,the left think that a third state will be successful and not lead to more bloodshed without a change in mindset? What arrogance do MJ Rosenberg and the President's circle have that they think they can force a peace with a group called Pals who have no stable leadership committed to peace. If MJ Rosenberg and Obama's group want peace they need to stop pressuring Israel and pressure the Arabs to change their thinking.The settlements are a distraction from the Pals accepting Israel once and for all.What is the sense of creating a third Pal state, better change the Pals mindset, teach them history and to better themselves and to let Israel help them and to refute Jihad/Iran?muslim brotherhood/Hamas&Hizbollah ideology.
http://israelagainstterror.blogspot.com/2009_05_24_archive.html

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