Obama Hatred
Every once in awhile--heck, make that at least once a week--Charles Krauthammer writes something about President Obama that sets a new record for outlandish commentary. The former speechwriter for Walter Mondale turned neocon has become convulsed, more than almost any other columnist, by Obama hatred. Today's Washington Post column announces that Obama, in seeking better ties with Russia, is, in essence, destroying American national security for decades to come. Obama, Krauthammer alleges, is on the verge of selling out ballistic missile defense.
But Krauthammer's argument rests on a number of unpersuasive assumptions. For one thing, he states that "we can reliably shoot down an intercontinental ballistic missile," while Russia cannot. Actually, we can't. The tests have been iffy at best and there's no sound reason to believe that America can "reliably" shoot down an incoming missile, as nice as that might be. Krauthammer also alleges that Mikhail Gorbachev tried to "swindle" Ronald Reagan out of a missile defense system during negotiations at Reykjavik in 1986.
He did? The man who unilaterally dismantled the Soviet empire was nothing more than a swindler? In reality, Gorbachev was proposing a deal--elimination of nuclear weapons in exchange for an American commitment to confine itself to laboratory testing of missile defense for a decade, which is basically what happened anyway, even though Reagan refused the deal. But there was nothing underhanded about the negotiations. A swindle implies deceit.
Krauthammer's real objective is to undermine any incipient detente in U.S.-Russia relations. According to him, Obama's pathetic eagerness for negotiations (as opposed to confrontation) about arms reductions forms the "perfect distraction from the major issue between the two countries: Vladimir Putin's unapologetic and relentless drive to restore Moscow's hegemony over the sovereign states that used to be Soviet satrapies." Well. Putin is intent on carving out a sphere of influence over Georgia, but that does not amount to a "relentless drive" to restore the entire Soviet empire. Anyway, Obama made it clear that he's not acceding to Putin's desire to bully Georgia.
Instead, Obama is trying to create a modicum of good relations between Russia and America that could lead to further cooperation on Iran and elsewhere. How come Krauthammer has nothing to say about Obama's success in getting Russian permission for overflight rights to supply American troops in Afghanistan? Isolating Russia, or treating it as an enemy, will turn it into one.

















Recently, and by that I mean the past two years or so, Krauthammer's columns give evidence that he's actually breaking down, losing it, becoming... I'm not sure what the clinical term would be, I prefer the Latin bat-shit crazy. He still hits his deadlines, the columns appear. So he's... employable. Not sure who his audience is, at this point... Maybe he doesn't need one. I don't think his bedfellows read him, nor he them. I can't see Big Daddy Irving Kristol subscribing to the WaPo just to access Krauthammer's stuff. I mean... I read it. But I read it for the laughs. And maybe a little schadenfreude.
July 10, 2009 11:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Frankly, I think if liberals/progressives stopped reading Krauthammer, his prominence would fade. He's smart enough to know that producing incendiary, and often illogical, ODS-type columns keeps him relevant. His columns are often some of the most read at the Post. But, if you look at the comments on those articles, about 80% (or more) of them are made by people who are trying to refute him, or point out how ridiculous his assertions are.
People should give it up. For one, you can't refute the illogical. For two, he and the Post know that his writing such crazy stuff, guarantees that people will read him...
Krauthammer's philosophy is quite simple: Stir up the beehive, and watch all the bees flutter around trying to make sense of the whole thing, while he sits back and laughs, reaping the benefits (financial and political) of his duplicitous work.
Don't give the guy the satisfaction.
July 10, 2009 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
I cannot believe that anyone has ever taken Krauthammer seriously. He is a neocon with an especially nasty acid coating, uninterested in the facts, and unabashedly committed to the goals of the far right: war and more war. The man at times appears to bedesperately unhinged and for my money he doesn't need a contract with WaPo, he needs an intervention and a committal.
July 11, 2009 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Neocon, frequent FOX commentator. Who reads him? Neocons. Who's in power? Not neocons. Maybe the Post will wake up and refuse any further contract, but probably not.
July 12, 2009 3:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Or the Gree: crazier than a shit-house rat.
July 12, 2009 7:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, we can sometimes shoot down an incoming ballistic missile. One at a time, at least. When we know when and where it's launched from, and its trajectory, we can target it with an accuracy that's slightly better than random. Not quite enough for me to be willing to stake my life on it, to be sure, still, it's (marginally) better than nothing.
Yet not quite as good as preparing for the more likely threat of a rusty coasthugger sneaking a nuke into Long Beach Harbor and triggering it before it hits dockside. Have we done anything to prepare for that?
Russia is not the threat.
July 10, 2009 11:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
it's even worse than what you described. we tried but couldn't shoot down a test missile unless it had a homing beacon in it relaying its exact coordinates to the tracking radar.
now that's some bull-istic defense!
we could use some defense against the bull-istic propaganda.
July 10, 2009 10:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, it's worse than that. Any serious attack from Russia might involve 100s of warheads as well as well as 1000s of false targets to confuse targeting systems. We might as well have Sarah Palin throwing rolls of toilet paper into the Alaska sky for all the effectiveness our missile defense system would be.
My understanding is the missile defense system is really only useful as a defense against isolated rogue attacks. And, as you have pointed out, the veracity of its effectiveness against even isolated attacks is debatable.
Personally, I think if a system could be devised which is demonstrably effective against isolated attacks, then a good argument can be made for its deployment. We could always negotiate a agreement with concerned parties (ie; Russians) to limit the effectiveness of such a system to isolated attacks only. It would likely be pointless to make anything more capable than that anyway because effective countermeasures would almost certainly be devised by a determined opponent.
July 11, 2009 1:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
We have a fully functional anti-missile system capable of shooting down any N. Korean missile during boost phase. In fact we have had it for decades. It is called the AEGIS system, components of which are installed on probably every U.S. Navy ship built since 1980 (because it was being tested when I was still in the service). Station a couple of AEGIS cruisers off the coast of N. Korea and not only is the U.S. protected but the logical targets of any ballistic missile attack, that is S. Korea and Japan as well.
The claim that Star Wars was ever intended just to be a defense against rogue states is just nonsense ginned up when it became clear that trying to build an actual continental defense against even the Chinese, and still less the Russians, was an epic fail. It became clear early on that there was no way to reliably defend against a multiple warhead weapon with decoys. Rather than abandon this program which was not only lucrative for the contractors but fed the Neo-Cons dream of world domination (because there is little doubt it was thought to be a way of breaking MAD in ways that would allow the U.S. to threaten the rest of the world at will), they simply changed the propaganda playbook.
Everyone on all sides understands that if Iran even wanted to develop a nuclear ballistic capability that its nominal target would be Israel. And people who are not bat-shit crazy know its purpose would be deterrence. That being so how is anyone being protected from anything by installing a missile system in Poland and the Czech Republic? How do you protect Tel Aviv from there. And does Iran really have the potential to have a beef with Paris or London that would induce them to drop a bomb on them? Knowing that both are currently nuclear states with installed submarine delivery systems?
When selling Star Wars the first time around the ads showed the United States with a colorful protective rainbow over it. The idea then was the same as the one sold after 9/11: Daddy will protect you by kicking some brown ass, meanwhile you all just go shopping.
It is all magical thinking and always has been. Plus a nice source of profits for the military-industrial complex.
July 11, 2009 10:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
The Aegis combat system, which you are describing (i.e., in place since 1980) is not intended to intercept intercontinental ballistic missiles, which is what Krauthammer is talking about, and it certainly is not equipped to handle "any ballistic missile" attack at S. Korea or the United States.
The Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense System, also known as the Star Wars system (amongst other names), is the system intended to intercept ICBMs that would be sent at the United States.
And, generally speaking, "Star Wars"/SDI is also the system that does not, and will not ever work. Krauthammer doesn't know what he's talking about and Heilbrunn is being generous in his characterization of its efficacy.
There are three fundamental problems, and partially covered in the comments mentioned above. Currently, as mentioned, there has been very limited effectiveness of the system in tightly controlled situations.
There has been no successful test, or even attempt, in an "uncontrolled setting." So the first problem is tracking and shooting down an ICBM in a live situation where there are no countermeasures in place.
The second problem is the use of countermeasures. Engineers working on SDI have not been able to effectively tackle the issue of countermeasures since they cannot take out an ICBM at this point. They are many years from being able to do so.
The third, and fundamental problem that will preventing the system from every working (as I've been told by sources working on the project), is that dealing with countermeasures that protect incoming ICBMs is a moving target. ICBMs are incredibly expensive, and as much time and energy is invested in creating a defense is being spent on overcoming that defense. Countries that have the ability to purchase/build ICBMs will invest tremendous amounts in developing systems that SDI isn't nearly ready to begin considering. The SDI system will never be able to anticipate that defense. It will always be behind and incapable of reacting to the countermeasures implemented in any attack using ICBMs.
July 11, 2009 1:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
The most damaging indictment of SDI is its software, which would be one of the most complex pieces of software ever written, with millions (that's right -- millions) of lines of distributed code. It's as certain as can be practically estimated that writing such code without error is impossible, and there's no way to test such code in real life.
One might be able to construct a simulation to test the code, but then one has to worry about the correctness of the simulation. Over twenty years ago, the computer science community led by David Parnas concluded that SDI was unworkable (David Lorge Parnas. Software Aspects of Strategic Defense Systems, American Scientist, Volume 73, 432-440, September-October 1985).
The many billions of dollars wasted on SDI over the past twenty-five years put the lie to any thoughts of competent defense spending, under both Republican and Democratic administrations.
July 11, 2009 2:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh god, what a great line!!
"We might as well have Sarah Palin throwing rolls of toilet paper into the Alaska sky for all the effectiveness our missile defense system would be."
July 11, 2009 11:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
To doubt the efficacy, or at least potential efficacy of Star War defense is a rank form of heresy, nothing short but vile denial of Miracles of Saint Ronald.
In particular, on the list of Miracles of Saint Ronald That Are Yet To Come is the fleet of 4000 Brilliant Pebbles that would shine our moral superiority over the benighted sinner nations and force them to repent and abjure their errors by sheer brilliance.
July 11, 2009 11:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Once a test had to be cancelled because....it was raining!
July 11, 2009 10:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
I blame the Post. They give this nut a prominent place on their page, make it stand out.
They need to be held accountable. It's disgraceful editorial policy, a real failure.
Krauthammer was waxing rhapsodic about Fox "News" not long ago; that's where he should work if they'll have him.
July 10, 2009 1:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama is pondering whether to keep the Bush plans of the placement of a missile defense interceptor site in Poland coupled with a radar facility in the Czech Republic giving the U.S. the ability to shoot down intercontinental ballistic missiles from Iran and protecting Europe as a whole. Russian officials have suggested Moscow may not sign any treaty unless the U.S. abandons the previous administration's plans for missile defense facilities. Russian officials say they fear its real intent is to weaken their country's nuclear deterrent. Obama can remove the plans from the table but do you really think he can gain Putin's trust? And why is Putin afraid of the U.S protecting Europe in the first place. He should be so nice and offer to pay half. I will bash Obama if he apologizes for the Bush administrations concern over Europe's safety or gives in to Putin. I hope the author doesn't believe in the New World Order?
http://www.cliffyworld.com
July 10, 2009 2:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well I put it to that it's rather more like this, and this is what the history books are going to show:
Bush and Cheney and their loopy friends would rattle sabers than engage their brains in how we can work together to contain real threats like Al Qaeda: Shouting out, "we'll teach them alright!," that beats working and it gets the crowds going. Having already won the Cold War and having made a friend of the former enemy to boot, they reasoned: why don't we build missiles on their border and invite their own former republics into NATO, encircle and terrify them, and see how that works out? (If they did this to us, we'd start World War III, but maybe we can bullshit them.) It should be politically good for us; our base consists of stupid people who can only remember that Russia is the enemy, so when it pisses off Moscow royally and how can it not, the base will love it!
PLUS! We just lie and say that it's really against, who? Oh, I dunno, Al Qaeda doesn't have missiles so it must be against the countries on, uh, that crazy Axis of Evil list that we drew up -- that's the ticket!! Well, Iran's pretty damn far but it's closer than North Korea and we've already invaded Iraq, let's say it's against Iran. Bingo! Anybody of minimal intelligence can see through these antics, but so what? We'll just keep straight faces and push on.
Will this mean Russia won't work with us on the war on terror with us jamming a shark stick in their eye? Putin was the first leader to call me over 9/11, of course, he seemed to want to help. Well, let's work out the details later, we're geniuses after all, and we're never wrong!
And now, like so many hideous messes that Bush left us, Obama has to deal with this insanity.
July 10, 2009 3:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Right, Overreach.
The concept that bases in Poland and the Czech Republic are there to defend against Iranian missiles doesn't even qualify as a lie.
It's a joke and not a very good one.
Who exactly does the U.S. fear Iran will attack? Norway?
Meanwhile, Turkey, Greece and Italy are left to fend for themselves against the mullahs' wrath!
Pathetic.
July 10, 2009 7:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's all about the oil. Russia has it, we want it. Iraq has it, we went to war over it.
July 10, 2009 8:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Meanwhile, Turkey, Greece and Italy are left to fend for themselves against the mullahs' wrath!
As are Australia, Singapore, Thailand, Japan. Just to name countries going east.
Star Wars was designed and sold to the people to be a Continental Defense System against the Soviet threat. Moreover it was only thinly disguised as an actual defense system to start with, the Reagan era neo-cons were just as eager to get their New American Century campaign of world domination on as were their Bush era counterparts. Mostly because they were the same nutjobs (Rumsfeld, Cheney etc) before as after.
Star Wars was seen as the ticket to making the U.S. the world's sole world superpower, which of course in these guys brains was spelled Sole WORLD SuperPOWER BWA, HA, HA!
The installation in Poland and the Czech Republic is a pretty transparent attempt to restrict Russia's ability to project power in futherence of its interests.
Plus there is a deep level of incoherence here. The Right has made it clear that Iran will not be allowed to develop an offensive nuclear capability to start with to the extent that they support preventive war. If we really needed a defence against Iran why wouldn't we just bomb the crap out of any suspected launch sites? The idea that either N. Korea or Iran would be able to disguise their launch capabilities in a way that could not be detected is far-fetched to begin with. But up a couple more satellites for cripes sake.
July 11, 2009 10:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good points.
July 11, 2009 1:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Speaking of incoherence, one of my favorite bits was when the neocons were simultaneously telling the Russians that really, the installations in Eastern Europe weren't aimed at them, and telling their base that sure, it was for Iran, but by coincidence it would protect us from the scary Russkies, too! Both of these were being communicated in public, and they apparently thought they were so crafty that the Russians wouldn't notice.
While I have frequent frustrations with Obama and Congressional Democrats, I still am thankful every day that those nuts are out of power.
July 13, 2009 1:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes indeed, Acanuck. A joke and not a very good one. Remember the peace dividend? Bush's Dad spent a ton on Nixon's urging to make the former enemy feel stable and good and friendly. Junior did everything he could to unwind that and reestablish hatred. Pretty good job the young fella did, too.
And now we got these missile kluges and the Krauthammers of the world howling about how important it is that we continue ferociously provoking Moscow with them. And sadly dysfunctional management at Washington Post egging him on, despite what are obviously emotional and/or psychological imbalances: serious failure of management.
July 11, 2009 2:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
you wrote: "giving the U.S. the ability to shoot down intercontinental ballistic missiles"
in a pig's eye. we don't yet have the ability to shoot down anything for real. do you know how many of Iraq's Scud missiles we hit in '91? ZERO. And we're still using the basic same technology, technology that hasn't even come close to providing even one actual success, no matter how much DOD tries to rig the test.
get your facts straight or you're just like Bush.
July 10, 2009 10:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Charles Krauthammer's articles are always intelligent, well written, to the point, and while critical, especially because they are so accurate, certainly not hateful. And we can't shoot down an incoming missile? Really? Then why did Obama deploy anti-missile cruisers around Hawaii earlier in the month, and tell the American people that we were prepared for any contingency when N Korea was shooting off misslies again and threatening to lob one at Hawaii? Was it my imagination a few years back when I saw Israelis using our patriot systems to shoot down Iraqui scuds on TV? However, why argue about the danger of Obama's foreign policy of appeasement? At the rate he's destroying employment, and the overall economy, being at ground zero of an Iranian nuclear launch in a few years might be a blessing!
July 10, 2009 4:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nice try valwayne but inaccurate like most of you thugs. Krauthammer is nothing but a neocon hater and you are as bad for believing what he says.
And why aren't you at some freeper site where they give a shit about what you have to say. We don't.
July 10, 2009 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
lousgirl, well said!
July 10, 2009 6:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Charles Krauthammer's articles are always intelligent, well written, to the point, and while critical, especially because they are so accurate, certainly not hateful.
Snerk!
Thanks dude, I needed a laugh.
July 10, 2009 6:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Was it my imagination a few years back when I saw Israelis using our patriot systems to shoot down Iraqui scuds on TV?"
Must've been. I remember the Israelis being panicked and I remember the scuds, but I don't remember them shooting any down. The only time the US has been able to shoot down a missile in tests has been when we knew the timing and the trajectory in advance. There is still no working missile defense.
"Then why did Obama deploy anti-missile cruisers around Hawaii earlier in the month, and tell the American people that we were prepared for any contingency when N Korea was shooting off misslies again and threatening to lob one at Hawaii?"
PR, plain and simple. Plus the fact that we were dead certain they couldn't get a missile past Japan. We were right about that, too.
Keep trying, though. We can always use the entertainment.
July 10, 2009 7:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, it was imagination- or rather, highly edited and selected video from a far greater range of results. Are you really going to rely on military press releases to evaluate this?
July 10, 2009 7:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
In tightly controlled situations as the Old Grouch described, yes. In reality? No.
"Really? Then why did Obama deploy anti-missile cruisers around Hawaii earlier in the month, and tell the American people that we were prepared for any contingency when N Korea was shooting off misslies again and threatening to lob one at Hawaii?"
Okay, you go try and find the source that backs up your inane version of it. Nothing close to that happened.
"Was it my imagination a few years back when I saw Israelis using our patriot systems to shoot down Iraqui scuds on TV?"
Yes, it was. The intercept rate for Patriot missiles against Scuds that targeted Israel was 40%, at best. Does that sound reliable to you?
"However, why argue about the danger of Obama's foreign policy of appeasement?"
Obama is no more an appeaser than Ronald Reagan or Richard Nixon. Or George W. Bush, for that matter, considering how Libya and Qaddafi fared.
"At the rate he's destroying employment, and the overall economy, being at ground zero of an Iranian nuclear launch in a few years might be a blessing!"
You can still go to the Bureau of Labor Statistics website www.bls.gov and pull up employment statistics for the last eight years. Why don't you go do that and come back and tell us when unemployment started ratcheting up. Here, I'll help you with that.
Unemployment rate
May 2008 = 5.2%
Oct. 2008 = 6.1%
Dec. 2008 = 7.1%
Jan. 2009 = 8.5%
June 2009 = 9.7%
I understand now why some people are still Republicans. Their memory sucks.
July 10, 2009 8:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is a resounding smackdown. Good job.
I wish we could still rate comments. Yours would get a 5.
July 11, 2009 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
SCUDS are not ICBMs. Your comment starts out baldy and factually challenged, and goes downhill from there.
July 10, 2009 9:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you're not aware of the differences in technological prowess between Sadam's Iraq or North Korea as compared to the Russians, you really shouldn't be talking on this subject.
Obama and Putin are smart enough to know we can't reliably knock down sufficient missiles to make it worthwhile. However, should we get another True Believer in America's omnipetence like Bush or Ronald "Limited nuclear war in Europe/I can recall launched ICBM's" in office, the world is not a safe place. Bush believed in ABM. He might have believed it would keep US safe, and used that false belief to justify launching on Russia.
July 10, 2009 10:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
valwayne asks:
Yes, it was your imagination, the Israelis shot no scuds down. What you saw was the PAC 2 Patriot which operatd by getting close to the Scud then blowing up. The explosion will either destroy the incoming missile with the fragments from the fragmentation bomb, or knock the incoming missile off course so it misses the target.
The explosions you saw were the Patriots blowing up, not the Scuds. A GAO report said only 9% of the Patriots fired had any effect.
As to Patiots used to protect Hawaii they're a newer version, the PAC 3. How good it will work is anybody's guess.
July 11, 2009 7:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Was it my imagination a few years back when I saw Israelis using our patriot systems to shoot down Iraqui scuds on TV?
Yes, it was your imagination coupled with lousy reporting.
July 11, 2009 10:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
"valwayne", you have a neon neocon sign radiating from your small, and pointy head. WTF, what planet, and why are you here on this blog?
July 11, 2009 11:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ohmigod!!!
All you repliers to Valwayne, STOP scaring Valwayne!!! Do you know what you've just done!!! He just came out of his backyard bunker and could leave the house without automatic weapons in his car and a pistol on her person. That took years of therapy just to get to that point. Now he's back on lockdown curled up in a ball and crying like a baby.
Thanks! Thanks a lot!
July 12, 2009 12:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wouldn't expect anything less from Kraphopper!
July 10, 2009 7:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Check out "The Closed World", a book by Paul Edwards, for a detailed analysis of the history of the flawed thinking that informs the foolish faith in high-tech military solutions. Just the account in the introduction of the use of computer-analyzed sensors in Vietnam is worth the price of admission.
July 10, 2009 7:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't even bother wasting my time reading Krauthammer's pieces of crap. Obama could sign a massive tax cut bill or the soldiers could find and kill ObL, yet Krauthammer would still find fault with the news and President Obama.
July 10, 2009 7:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have no use for him either. But have you noticed how Obama drives his most ardent critics to rabid self-destructive distractions????
Bibi Netanyahu? In fact the entire Republican party it seems
July 10, 2009 7:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good point. Bibi this week was particularly out of whack.
Sort of makes you wonder about the construction of their egos. A little object denial and zoom. Here we are at infantile rage.
July 11, 2009 12:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I heard that some time ago, Krauthammer took offense at something his Rabbi said during the service and he began screaming at him. It is sad that the diving injury he suffered during med school resulted is his being wheelchair-bound. He is obviously very intelligent and well educated, but he seems every bit as unstable as Glenn Beck. Brit Hume and Bill O'Reilly strike me just about the same way. Of course, I'm certain that I judge authoritarian right-wing types more harshly than I do other people people.
July 10, 2009 7:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Another media-hog with narcissistic personality disorder, eh?
July 10, 2009 8:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Have you noticed how prevalent Narcissistic Personality Disorder seems to be in the Republican Party? I'd like to see a clinical psychologist do a study on the correlation ... it would make a fascinating read.
July 11, 2009 11:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Charles Krauthammer was one of the media's loudest apologists for Slobodan Milosevic during the brutal war in ex-Yugoslavia.
There's been a lot of blood under the bridge since then, as Hunter Thompson would say, but I still hold that against him.
July 10, 2009 7:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Republicans are just bitter because they are out of power. They are all scared because they know that if Obama turns the economy around and rebuilds relations and respect around the world that the Repugs will be out of power for the rest of their undistinguished career.
Like Jon Stewart so aptly said, "It's supposed to taste like a shi@t taco."
July 10, 2009 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, and they're REALLY scared that meaningful health care reform will pass because they know, once people have real health security, they'll never give it up. They see the U.S. turning into a social democracy, like most of Europe, and they're frightened that the oligarchs will be screwed.
July 10, 2009 8:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
There's also the possibility that Krauthammer is an old-fashioned racist in addition to being an asshat wingnut neocon.
July 10, 2009 8:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Serious?!?!
ROTFLMAO!!!
July 12, 2009 12:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is physically impossible to distinguish between a warhead and a well constructed decoy balloon in the vacuum of space where the present system targets and intercepts. The system might present an obstacle to a country of limited technical means, but the Russians would have no problem swamping the system with decoys. Why do we persist in spending billions on a system with such an inherent flaw? Beats me. I suppose it’s a combination of greedy defense contractors and stupid political leaders.
July 10, 2009 9:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's the power of Magical Thinking.
These guys sold Supply Side by drawing a (Laffer) curve on a napkin. They sold Star Wars by drawing a cartoon with a rainbow protecting the U.S.
I only wish these were jokes or metaphors. Over the last few decades I have looked on in horror as I realized that a handful of evil geniuses deploying Straussian methods had convinced an entire political party's leadership that Life really is Simple if you Ignore the Complexities and put on a Happy Smile. Just put up Dutch or Cheerleader George or Caribou Barbie-Sarah and life is good! Just pay no attention to the Cheneys behind the curtain.
It does not even rise to the level of Orwellism, more like P.T. Barnum-ism ('This way to the Egress!!)
July 11, 2009 10:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
I didn't become aware of Krauthammer until he had already eaten the loco weed, so I was unaware that he had been a Scoop Jackson Democrat. That is a very illuminating event. The key characteristic of the Scoop Jackson Democrats that drove so many of them was to always oppose "evil" with force. Remember, Scoop Jackson was first elected to Congress in 1941.
The Neocon defectors from the Democratic Party to the Reaganites justified their move primarily because they objected strongly to the apparently feckless policies of Carter when he did not go after those they defined as "evil" with both feet and a nuke. Reagan promised what they wanted, so Wolfowitz, Pearl and so many switched over to the Republicans. As I said, I was unaware that Krauthammer was one of them.
To make a switch that extreme required strong motivation. And now I think they see Carter redux in Obama. He's not attacking "evil" the way Reagan and both Bush's promised to. But Obama's in power as President. After the last eight years they are powerless to prevent him from - in their view - acting like he supports the evil doers by negotiating with the "evil" enemy. (Of course, those "evil" enemies declare that they are justified by the behavior of the Americans. That's impossible of course. Americans are a unique source of "good" in the world so such allegations must be lies and propaganda.)
I think that's the motivation behind so many of the unhinged attitudes and statements from the extremist right-wing Republicans. They expect massive force to be applied to prevent the slightest gain by the evil-doers, and they don't see it in Obama in particular or in the Democrats/liberals who elected him in general.
I'd say that goes to the misunderstanding that there actually is something that can be called an evil nation or an evil group. The misunderstanding personifies national policies and tries to make them human. That's a problem because while individual humans can be evil, even when they are they don't see themselves that way. Instead they fear strongly and they attack what they fear. When the target of their attacks is America, it feeds the right-wing fantasy that they are evil as a group and they are attacking America based on their evil nature, not because they fear attack by an unthinking colossus - a way the frequently self-absorbed and generally ignorant (and proud of it) Americans can easily be personified. Since they are evil, no force expended to counter them is wrong or unjustified, which justifies the use of military in preemptive invasions and justifies the use of torture on the recalcitrant evil-doers.
You'd think a board certified psychiatrist (Krauthammer) would recognize the inherent error of attempting to personify entire groups of people and even nations as "evil." I'd guess that he at some level realizes that if he did, his personal support from the right-wing would disappear almost overnight. Certainly much or all of his ample paycheck and his personal acclaim would disappear. So he is in effect bought and paid for to be a right-wing propagandist, much as is Bill Krystol who frequently published his work. My bet is that he represses such thoughts and would be angry at reading what I have just written. (Krystol's rag would disappear overnight if Rupert Murdoch's money stopped, as would the Wall Street Journal's Editorial page in its current incarnation. Murdoch is defending his fortune from the masses.)
I've been trying to figure out why the right-wing is so angry, and I think that the base of it is exactly this mistaken idea that the word "evil" has meaning when applied to groups of people. It doesn't.
Evil is a characteristic of individuals, and rather rare. Generally even individuals who perform evil actions are doing so because they have been taught that the actions they take are justified. Any effective negotiator recognizes that, or at least operates on that assumption.
July 10, 2009 10:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent comments but:
"Philip Anschutz snags Weekly Standard from Rupert Murdoch" - Jun 17 2009
Clarity Media Group, the publishing company owned by conservative media mogul Philip Anschutz, has bought the right-wing political magazine the Weekly Standard from Rupert Murdoch's News Corp.
The deal, first reported by Company Town, will give Anschutz a powerful voice in Washington. Although the Weekly Standard has a small circulation of just more than 80,000, its readership is very influential on Capitol Hill.
In a statement, Weekly Standard Editor William Kristol thanked Murdoch for "his generous support and, if I may use the term, liberal disposition have made whatever we've accomplished possible."
Launched in 1995, the Weekly Standard may have become less vital to Murdoch after he acquired the Wall Street Journal, which carries much more clout in Washington.
SOURCE - http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2009/06/anschutz-snags-weekly-standard-from-murdoch.html
July 11, 2009 4:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks. I was unaware of that shift.
But apparently Anshutz is another wealthy conservative out to propagandize in order to protect his fortune and his superior social class. The Weekly Standard and William Kristol remains a propaganda outlet for those people. And I am sure they'll continue to publish Krauthammer.
We really are involved in a class warfare situation. The self-appointed super wealthy upper class still hates the idea of a middle class nation and has declared war on the rest of us.
July 11, 2009 6:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for your very well informed and articulate comments. You really hit the nail on the head with your summary of what motivates Murdoch and the rest of the oligarchs, that they are defending their filthy wealth against the struggle of all others "beneath them" to just survive. The hysterical amounts of money the super rich have accumulated in the class wars of the late 20th and early 21st century are obscene distortions of normal human inclinations to share the excess with the needy. The propaganda war necessary to defend this indefensible greed is what makes Chuckie K and Billy K their daily bread. In a democracy these ruling class warriors have to keep the average American totally misinformed to keep the money flowing ever upward. The healthcare "debate" is just one more example of a grossly OVERFUNDED system designed to make a very few people filthy rich and leave millions and millions without healthcare or hope. You need a hell of a good propaganda machine to convince huge numbers of working people that they should suffer and die quietly for the sole benefit of making a few soulless sociopaths filthy stinking rich.
July 11, 2009 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'll have to admit that saying they are defending their wealth is an oversimplification of what they are truly defending. The real problem they face is having their super-privileged social position taken away from them. The wealth or the appearance of having such wealth is just the prop that makes that position possible and sustainable.
As the Madoff and Sanford ponzi schemes have shown it is not just the money that is a problem. Neither of those men actually had any, as the existence of a ponzi scheme proves. The real problem is that with either real super-wealth or even just the appearance of having that super-wealth, those individuals achieve a social position that is about all law and social rules. They get to change the rules to protect themselves.
That appearance of super-wealth was itself a factor in the continuance of both of those ponzi schemes well past the time that professional finance experts should have identified them. But Madoff's and Sanford's social position protected them from scrutiny. They'll fight like scalded cats to protect that social position, and they have been fighting throughout the twentieth century and now into this one.
Chapter five of the interesting new book "The Big Rich" explains how the modern conservative movement was created in the 1950's by five super-wealthy Texas Oil men. It looks like the conservative political movement has been a creation of the super-wealthy and continues to be financed to promote the class war being conducted by the super-wealthy against the rest of us. Murdoch. Richard Mellon Scaife. Coors. Eric Prince of Blackwater/Xe fame. George W. Bush. The list goes on.
July 12, 2009 3:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Stop the hate!
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July 10, 2009 11:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Every Monday that ugly mug stares out from the Chicago Tribune op-ed page, along with a local conservative harrumpher, so Monday sucks before it starts. Bookending the work week on Friday are the golden stylings of the most brilliant opinionist, legend in his own mind, with his head thoroughly up his ass, Jonah Goldberg.
I read 'em anyway, just for the irritation
July 11, 2009 12:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
Jesus! Could you GET more self abusive?
July 11, 2009 6:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Unless one was willing to shave his entire body with a rusted cheese grater, no.
July 11, 2009 12:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
I gave up reading Krauthammer a few years ago. He was turning into a parody of himself- lacking both accuracy and inferential ability. However, on the issue of ballistic missile defence, which has occupied some of the comments here, I'd remind you of the wise words of Andrei Sakharov:
Gorbachev brought Sakharov out of exile in Gorky to address the Politburo on, “What would you do about a ballistic missile defense?” Sakharov said, “It’s easy to overwhelm it with missiles. I wouldn’t spend a ruble on it.” And they didn’t.
July 11, 2009 12:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think he just wanted to use the word "satrapies" in a sentence that almost made sense. (Maybe it was on a dare from David Brooks)
July 11, 2009 12:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Even the statement that BMD is "iffy at best" greatly overstates its effectiveness. As another commenter pointed out, the ballistic flights of warheads and decoys are identical. Decoys are not some high-tech devices. They are aluminized balloons, like the ones you buy for kids' birthdays. Making them would be child's play for any state which could produce nuclear warheads and ICBMs. It's easy to put the warhead in a similar balloon. Adding some aluminum foil chaff is even cheaper. None of the BMD tests have shown even the slightest ability to pick out warheads in such an environment. BMD is an extremely expensive bluff. The danger is that some President won't realize that.
July 11, 2009 12:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Newspaper columns seem to depend more on controversy and drawing comments, negative if possible, than any real news or factual content.
These columns are no different that absurd flame bait posts on forums from days gone past.
July 11, 2009 7:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well said.
I've had enough of the Post's abandonment of ethics and responsible commentary. I've quit reading the entire rag, for fear my acceptance of its little remaining objectivity might be misinterpreted as acceptance of the Krauthammer-Kristol-Will Axis of Obstructionism.
Froomkin's gone to a more palatable Post, Cillizza's too interested in playing dress-up with Milbank the Clown, and there's enough Gene Robinson available on MSNBC. Why support what the Post has become? At this rate it won't be long until the day people hear "Washington Post" and think only of a Sousa march.
July 11, 2009 9:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Military Industrial Complex
July 11, 2009 8:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Still wondering why these people get any airtime at all.
Not even going to start on reagunz.grew up with him in cali.
All this is pretty much made up same old stuff. You have to go back a few years to check it out but....ussr was never a "real" threat to begin with.
Learn this and you see the grip mic has on the media.50+years now.
Look where all the $$ goes.
Come on. They are always going to have idiots yelling and screaming. They can afford it.
Don't you know this?
July 11, 2009 10:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
I predict that Chuckie Krauthammer will go the way of another discredited neocon-- William Safire. Anyone notice how Bill Safire (one of George W's most fervent enablers) has abandoned his fetid political critique and returned to the safer universe of linguistic gymnastics?
And "journalist" Peggy Noonan now feels free to speak her mind about Palin? What the hell became of the Fourth Estate, anyway?
July 11, 2009 10:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Peggy Noonan rediscovered her brains and her integrity, as did Kathleen Parker and Christopher Buckley. Hmm - and Parker and Buckley were both cast into outer darkness by The National Review after they dared to criticize the loony-bin the GOP had become under Rove and Palin. Inevitable conclusion: if you're not willing to check your brain at the door, the GOP doesn't want you.
July 11, 2009 11:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
Krauthammer relies on the fact that his readership are only getting their information from Fox News so they won't notice clearly misleading and deceitful lines like the US can "reliably" shoot down IBMs.
I read somewhere recently that Krauthammer is actually a psychiatrist. Is this true? Yikes. Honestly, not that it's his fault, but his appearance is kind of creepy. That alone might be enough to trigger a delusional episode in patients. No wonder he gave it up.
July 11, 2009 11:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
My sister has often lauded TPM as an exceptional website. So several weeks ago, I began reading TPM on a regular basis.
How disappointing!
Reading TPM, one would think that Bush, Cheney, Palin, Ensign and Sanford are the five most important people in America.
This country is facing incredible problems including a declining economy, the loss of jobs, health care, global warming, rising deficits, declining education...the list goes on and on.
I have to say that TPM is to serious journalism what "Days of our Lives" is to the arts.
TPM...please, get serious.
July 11, 2009 12:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Couldn't you at least have posted your tiresome and maybe a little stagey lamentation in a thread that didn't tend to disprove your questionable contention?
July 11, 2009 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly!
July 11, 2009 1:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, your comment is illustrative of my point.
And the vast majority of comments on this thread prove my point as well.
Game. Set. Match.
July 11, 2009 4:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Typical arrogant know-nothing. Typical conservative R. No facts all attitude.
In a survey last year of people's most and least watched TV news outlets, the watchers of PBS got the most FACTS right on a quiz, and the viewers of Fox got the most FACTS wrong. Why do you think that is charleshugh?
July 11, 2009 5:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
As a matter of fact, I am a lifetime (40+ years) Democrat. However, being a Democratic doesn't mean that I agree with the negative, name-calling reporting that dominates the web and so many threads on the web.
The "attitude" you are referring to is 100% Democratic! Real Democrats (Kennedy Democrats) are open-minded to opposing points of view.
BTW: I have an MS in History and I am a practicing attorney. I have worked on behald of numerous State and national democratic candidates.
July 11, 2009 10:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
You may be a "lifelong Democrat," but you are as full of yourself ("game, set and match," and your resume jerk-offering) as John Cornyn.
July 12, 2009 9:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
What else is there to say when one encounters someone with the intelligence of Sarah Palin and the social skills of Richard Nixon.
Again, you have proven my point...though you may be too dull to see it.
Game. Set. Match!
July 12, 2009 9:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, I don't watch soap operas myself. Enjoy them, do ya?
July 11, 2009 4:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
There's a clinical term that describes Krauthammer's mental condition: MESHUGENA!
July 11, 2009 3:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
The present problem with BMD is that, assuming it can actually track an incoming missile, it cannot differentiate between a real warhead and a dummy or decoy warhead. That is where the problem is in a real-world scenario: how many of the multiple warheads are real and how many are decoys? If 500 missiles are launched, with 6 warheads/decoys per missile (just guessing here, some might have more) that gives 3000 targets.
To intercept three thousand targets would require a minimum of 3000 AMM launches. And each AMM would have to have some way of being targeted on one specific warhead; otherwise you could have several AMMs trying to intercept the same warhead/decoy. And remember, the ballistic missiles don't release their multiple warheads until after they re-enter the atmosphere, thus giving even less time for targeting information to be fed into the AMM.
As to the staging of US naval vessels near Hawaii during the North Korean missile test, it wouldn't necessarily be completely a PR gimmick. It was announced that the North Korean missile was going to be launched out over the Pacific. There were no NK missile tracking vessels, that I know of, stationed in the Pacific, so there was no possibility of the NKs destroying the missile if it got near any populated island. The presumption was that said missile was going to splash down somewhere west of Hawaii, but if it continued onwards there was a slight chance of it nearing the Hawaiian islands. It's flight could be tracked by satellite and aircraft, vessels deployed as close as possible to its impact point, and, if need be, AMMs launched to shoot it down. Under those conditions there was a very good chance of actually hitting the thing.
To sum up: as long we get any nuclear-armed foe to launch only one missile at a time and after several weeks of propaganda, one might say we do have a "missile defense".
Now if we could only develop an APD (anti-pundit defense)...
July 11, 2009 6:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
These Repubs who are suppose to be Christians sure are full of hate. Hmmmmmmmm.
July 11, 2009 8:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Charles is in the box thinking that can be spewed forth by any of the second rate sell-outs. The predetermined hate just happens irregardless of who's chosen to voice it.
Criticism isn't an idea, hate isn't a solution, they're just the weakeast form of response.
Think about it, Fox is what the right-wing & their base watches.
July 11, 2009 10:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hm. I read the last column or the Mad Psychiatrist, and it reminds me the skid "Job interview in the Ministry of Silly Walks": "This walk is not particularly silly".
To those who did not watch Monty Python: the walk was very, very silly, but not PARTICULARLY so. The latest opus of Krauthammer is utter nonsense, and is rather snide, but is somewhat short of totally unwarranted invective. I recall when an innocuous statement of Al Gore could bring Krauthammer to conniptions and a declaration that Gore belong to the most vile creatures in the universe.
Right now, he simply overlooks that Russia exctrated from Obama somewhat meaningless and definitely very cheap concessions (but we could have an absolute nuclear superiority! Quoth Krauthammer. Now, nevermore! Get drunk, Krauthammer, and get over it.) and we got some goodies right away, overland supply route to Afghanistan immune from Taliban sabotage, and stalling of the delivery of advanced anti-aircraft systems to Iran.
The ability of our systems to shoot down Russian ICBMs, and the ability of Russian systems to shoot down our planes are both unproven, but as I understand, the latter has better chances to be true, and if true, actual chance of being important.
Actually, Iran and Syria with good anti-aircraft defences and decent missile weapons is something that should give Krauthammer a pause -- were he sane. The whole neo-con project is about identifying a legion of adversaries and ISOLATING THEM. Whatever. To quote Fafblog "Luckily, we are impervious to logic."
July 11, 2009 11:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Krauthammer's a nut, I thought everyone knew that. I stopped reading his idiocy a long time ago. The WaPo, should dump him.
July 11, 2009 11:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Star Wars works?
Aren't Russian ICBMs MIRVed? So if they have over 7000 warheads, and they launch only one fifth of their ICBMs, how many warheads are we figuring on raining down out of the heavens at thousands of miles an hour?
I serviced film editing gear that used software with over a million lines of code and, while it worked beautifully, I wouldn't want to trust it to access a thousand frames of video simultaneously - crash city, guaranteed. And it knew where to look for those frames.
Krauthammer lives in Tom Clancy World, where the enemy is stupid and inept so America just can't lose.
July 12, 2009 1:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
The key to making sense of Krauthammer's world view is to understand that for him all other issues are secondary to relentless support for Israel. Invade Iraq? Good for Israel. Bomb Iran? Good for Israel. Torture (Moslem) terrorist suspects? Good for Israel.
Obama has backed away from support of Israel's colonization of the West Bank, and he has spoken of Palestinians as human beings with grievances. Obama must be destroyed.
July 12, 2009 9:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
This "key", "relentless support of Israel", fail in this case, because in what way annoying Russia with ABM systems helps Israel? None. While it motivates Russia to sell arms to Iran and Syria.
But if your top priority is to dominate, well, because we can, then we should exploit every opportunity. From this point of view, supporting Israel's aggresive policies allows to enjoy subjugating other folks vicariously, and war in Iraq or "cutting Russia down to size", directly. The question how it helps us or Israel is moot -- this is the chief joy in life you are talking about! At least, to folks like Krauthammer.
July 13, 2009 7:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Besides the fact that modern ICBMs all have multiple independent re-entry vehicles, resulting in a "cloud" of incoming warheads that would be impossible to defeat, the fact is that given the distances and speeds involved in shooting down missiles in space, nuclear-tipped interceptors would be required to give a missile-defense system an acceptable degree of reliability. And of course, that would defeat the purpose.
People may point out the Chinese laser that destroyed a satellite. Satellites travel on predictable orbital paths at uniform altitudes with periodic re-appearances over the same place.
The real scandal is that all of the "tests" under the Clinton administration that resulted in "operationalizing" the first missile defense systems, in Alaska, were shams. They were blatantly rigged by giving advance information to the Air Force defense teams so that they knew where to aim the interceptor before the target took off, and the target missile was not allowed to maneuver or deploy anti-radar countermeasures.
In fairness - Tom Clancy World doesn't have enemies that clueless or inconsistent. The world that the right wing lives in is the world of The A-Team.
July 13, 2009 12:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes. If you meet anyone who claims that the missile defense system has been demonstrated to work, ask them why it was exempted from the normal testing requirements for weapons systems. If they have excuses for that, ask them if they'd fly on a plane or live near a power plant that had been exempted from testing to prove that it works.
July 13, 2009 1:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
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