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An Honest Conservative on a Dishonest Ignoramus
Peggy Noonan on an about-to-be-former governor of Alaska, whose sublime readiness to lead the United States of America was vouched for by the distinguished senior Senator from Arizona and his bedazzled party:
In television interviews she was out of her depth in a shallow pool. She was limited in her ability to explain and defend her positions, and sometimes in knowing them. She couldn't say what she read because she didn't read anything. She was utterly unconcerned by all this and seemed in fact rather proud of it: It was evidence of her authenticity. She experienced criticism as both partisan and cruel because she could see no truth in any of it. She wasn't thoughtful enough to know she wasn't thoughtful enough. Her presentation up to the end has been scattered, illogical, manipulative and self-referential to the point of self-reverence. 'I'm not wired that way," "I'm not a quitter," "I'm standing up for our values." I'm, I'm, I'm.
This badly needed saying by an honest conservative:
she continues to poll high among some members of the Republican base, some of whom have taken to telling themselves Palin myths. To wit, "I love her because she's so working-class." This is a favorite of some party intellectuals. She is not working class, never was, and even she, avid claimer of advantage that she is, never claimed to be and just lets others say it. Her father was a teacher and school track coach, her mother the school secretary. They were middle-class figures of respect, stability and local status. I think intellectuals call her working-class because they see the makeup, the hair, the heels and the sleds and think they're working class "tropes."
It's the height, or depth, of condescension, in the guise of populism, to attribute working-classness to a person who parades her ignorance as a proof of authenticity. The only thing wrong with Noonan's column: She's whited out her party's willingness to enthuse for this dope less than twelve months ago.
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I guess the liberals found their Hillary. And that Palin was important, since the post-mortems show no signs of stopping.
July 10, 2009 8:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Peggy Noonan = an "honest conservative"? What on earth does that mean?
If ever anyone deserved to be labeled condescending, it's Peggy Noonan! Duh! Height or depth, take your pick!
Meantime, if you love Peggy so much, why don't you marry her.
July 10, 2009 9:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gasket: You're sooo inflexible, my dear!
I understand that to hear Gitlin call any conservative "honest" is an epic moment in its own right, but even that pales in comparison with the pathos he can create by quoting an "honest conservative" critizing Palin (gasp!). A 5 minute cut/paste job and he's ready to face the adoring fans.
Contrast this generous loving with the current breaking news: Josh reporting on Krauthammer being driven off the deep end by his hatred of Obama.
And did you notice how after days of non-stop digging through Sandford-Ensign's soiled undewear, the TPM SmutCracker (tm) took a rare break: "There's a lot of salacious back and forth today about the Ensign scandal". You think??
Well, that was a really short break, cause he went right back to work.
Sometimes I think the obession with Palin, Sanford, Ensign, et all, is a subconcious tactic by a certain fearless front-page blogger and his honorable guests to avoid saying much about where things stand on those things he holds (held?)so dear.
Oh, wait, maybe he is talking about them, all the time...
P.S. You been gone (and missed)!!!
P.P.S At least MJ Rosenberg doesn't disappoint. Do you think he and Joe Biden were twin brothers in his previous life?
July 10, 2009 9:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the shoutout, L. Missed you too, and this crazy hangout, believe it or not. ;-)
July 11, 2009 1:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Blind hog finds an acorn.
July 11, 2009 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, for once, Peggy sounded like a grown-up. If Sarah appeals to people (my daily paper had a letter today claiming she was the only HONEST person in politics) then we just have to wait and let her make a case for herself. I can't imagine how she can do it in terms of substantive arguments, but she knows how to get the base going!
If she is a viable presidential candidate, it is time to leave this effing country.
July 10, 2009 9:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've see Facebook entries from YOUNG REPUBLICANS that we need to get rid of the "coons" in the White House. This is what we are up against, friends! These racist mental midgits!
The entire idea of bipartisanship is a sham. No republican will vote for anything that will help our country. Why? Because the Democrats will get credit.
Why didn't they do it when they had the power? Because they didn't care.
July 10, 2009 9:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bingo!
July 11, 2009 5:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
They did a grea tjob helping ... themselves to our treasures and treasury. Yee haw! Let's tkae the military out for a spin and see what we can do to "shake things up"!!!
July 11, 2009 11:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Noonan has a lot to answer for. This is good writing about the nitwit who might have been President. But it don't fix the rest.
July 10, 2009 11:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
The very, very, sad truth is that Sarah Palin is not that very different from George W. Bush.
July 11, 2009 3:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, DUMB and DUMBER!
July 11, 2009 5:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
perfecto!
July 11, 2009 10:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
What's the difference between Gearge W. Bush and Sarah Palin?
... C'mon ...
... Wait for it ...
... Are ya sitting down, also ...
Lipstick!!!
July 11, 2009 11:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Cracked me up!
July 11, 2009 6:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
One promising thing has come from this.
The nation was smart enough to realize, beforehand, that McCain and Palin were't up to the task of running the country. While McCain and Palin aren't mirror images of Bush the likeness was close enough so we weren't fooled. The post election treatment of Palin is just to be sure she doesn't get any wild ideas for 2012. Put a fork in her. She is done.
July 11, 2009 8:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Your second paragraphy should have started with the words, "A little more than half of...".
I'm not nearly as sanguine as you are.
July 11, 2009 5:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
I could have been more precise. We have to remember Bush won by a far smaller margin. It is said that nobody much cares about the score. A win is a win. What Bush did would seem to confirm that.
July 12, 2009 5:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
My point was that it is dangerous to label a small and likely temporary shift in voting patterns as a situation where "[t]he nation was smart enough." This nation is selfish, conservative, and not particularly smart.
Sarah Palin, if she IS dead as a politician (and you won't believe that for a pico-second if you're smart), is likely to become the next O'Reilly and make a living helping the oafs believe lies.
July 12, 2009 8:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
You have a point but we have our moments, however short lived, where I count my lucky stars to be an American.
July 12, 2009 10:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Of course we are luck to be Americans. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died to make this country great. Unfortunately, a few conservatives are working very diligently to insure that our grandchildren will not have the same opportunities that were afforded to us.
July 12, 2009 7:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Peggy Noonan an "honest Conservative?" How incredibly funny!
Noonan is perhaps the most opportunistic writer I've encountered. I'm not sure she really possesses any ideology, Conservative, Liberal or anything else. She has been a hack for the Bush Repubs because that has paid the bills. If that goes away, she could just as easily turn up shilling for the Obama White House.
It makes no difference to Peggy, really, who is all about impressing you with her prose and her "reasonableness" in this time of partisanship.
But don't ever get the idea that she will ever stand on her own. If she is a mouthpiece for politician "X," you can expect her to defend the policies and the personality of politician X right to the gates of hell.
Palin's biggest problem vis a vis Noonan is that she never employed Noonan to promote Palin. Noonan would otherwise now be writing about these latest maneuvers by Palin within the framework of a Greek tragedy or something wherein the heroine will surely prevail with glory in the end.
I cannot watch or read Noonan. My gag reflex, although never really a problem, is simply not strong enough to withstand a Noonan assault.
July 11, 2009 9:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
All that your post implies doesn't mean Noonan wasn't right about this.
July 11, 2009 1:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Everything my post implies is that Noonan could just as easily have written a piece 180 degrees from this depending on nothing more than where her love of her own prose took her. A different draft of an opening paragraph and we could well have been on our way to the brilliant political strategist Palin making the move that assured she would become the first woman Pope in addition to winning the White House.
I had to read this piece to respond to your comment. She still impacts my gag reflex like no other. I encourage you to revisit readytoblowagasket's comments downthtread for a more complete analysis of Noonan that I agree with.
July 11, 2009 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
You've developed a problem of not being able to separate the message from the messenger (not surprising to find this issue on TPM). I agree with many of Noonan's points in this article, except for the bit about "the media" being against her. That's the old warhorse that the GOP likes to use...
July 11, 2009 6:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
And you, sir, completely miss the point of the discussion in this thread, which is in fact about Peggy Noonan. But then again, I look at the "clearthinker" signature and realize that selectively missing the point is what you do best in the ongoing effort to be a smug contrarian. That's quite a personal aspiration, ct, and you fulfill it so regularly and so completely. Must make your mother proud, I'm sure! Even as it contributes nothing to any kind of sensible dialogue on these pages.
Pogue mahone, ct! Now go away, cuz you bother me while offering nothing of any value, as is usual.
July 11, 2009 11:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, the blog was about Noonan's column on Palin which is noteworthy because Noonan - an ex-GOP speechwriter - was critical of Palin.
It was you, however, that keeps thinking it was about Noonan. And we got some simple knee-jerk reaction from you about Noonan.
July 12, 2009 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Selective stupidity fits you so well, ct. Keep it up!
Meanwhile, as the person who started this thread with my comment about Noonan (topically related quite closely to the initial blog), I will reserve the right to declare what the thread was about. Seems only logical.
As with Noonan, however, I of course would not expect you to engage in anything like honest debate or discussion. And so your selective stupidity is duly noted. Now, pogue mahone. go away. Is that hard for you to understand? There's nothing here for you. We deal in discussion after all.
July 12, 2009 1:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
So what? Noonan’s words could just as easily have been spoken about George Bush and be equally accurate. A Cafe blogger here, Jan Tessier, recently posed the salient question. I will repeat my comment there:
You ask a good question here. What is the source of Sarah Palin’s power? My answer would be Ronald Reagan, G.H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton and George Bush. Reagan was a bad actor who destroyed California before he became President; G. H. W. Bush was Chauncey Gardiner who came to office just by being there; Clinton was governor of Arkansas who never delivered on a single issue that was an element of his public posture, and George Bush – a synonym for unsuitable for public office. There is a trajectory here and its arc points to a Palin like personality and every national political actor is aware of this reality, the rest being mere rhetoric for the masses. All she needs is a catchy phrase. How about “Yes she can.”
The other source of her power is that none of us is ready to accept the truth of my first answer. It is just too embarrassing to admit. It would be better to acknowledge that she is Presidential timber and consider how desperate our political circumstances are today.
July 11, 2009 9:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's easy to dismiss Peggy but this is what my Republican friends have been saying too -- the east coast Republicans, the Wall Streeters, know darned well that Palin was never going to lead the Republicans out of the wildnerness the same way they know that Rush Limbaugh won't. They have no idea who will but make no mistake, these people are really happy to have Palin out of the way. They'd love her to be nothing more than an Alan Keyes but it's tough for them since they made the mistake of running her for veep.
July 11, 2009 11:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's the thing. The GOP has this 21st century southern strategy wherein they drag people from the Bible Belt along based on challenging their faith without providing them any substantive rationale for following the GOP. Now those southerners are convinced they can lead the GOP and the GOP Yankees are hard-pressed to put down their rebellion.
July 11, 2009 11:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Destor, could it be because your east-coast Republican friends know as much as Peggy does about what it is to be working class?
I'm happy to overlook the fact that Peggy Noonan was an ardent Obama supporter for a long time (until very recently, in fact), my question is what does she know about working class to critize Palin from that angle (and I'm not even a Palin supporter)?
July 11, 2009 12:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lalo shoots and scores!
What does Peggy Noonan know about the working-class? She knows the tireless firefighters who cleaned up the World Trade Center site night and day were selfless heroes. That's it. Other than that, she doesn't know jack shit. About anything, really.
It's sad that progressives don't have anyone who can write as well as Peggy Noonan. Progressives become confused and seduced by Peggy's deft prose, and mistakenly think she knows what she's talking about. She doesn't. If you study her essays, you can see she just wings it every time.
July 11, 2009 1:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hum.
What did Dickens know? What did Voltaire know?
Seems like a rather silly complaint. The problem is no one in the working class has much of a voice. Any that pipe up are generally attacked from both ends as grandstanding, whining, or looking for a class war or a handout. Even if they overcome all that, they'll be bought, and won't be working class anymore.
In short, one doesn't need to be "of" the working class. One just needs sufficient empathy and a sense of justice to speak "for" them.
July 11, 2009 1:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's a valid complaint because Noonan makes an issue of it in the article. Noonan whines that Palin is not technically working class but pretends to be to please her fans. Yet that assessment requires a subtle degree of knowledge that Noonan does not possess. It's valid also because Noonan is writing nonfiction, not fiction like Dickens.
July 11, 2009 1:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fair enough, gasket. I didn't mean to imply Noonan has empathy, I just meant to point out that it is not necessary to be of a place in order to write about it.
Noonan annoys me, as well.
July 11, 2009 2:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think it's perfect that you brought up fiction writers, Bwak.
Noonan's brilliance is in myth-making, not fact-telling. However, her current job is not to make myths but offer an informed opinion, right?
Yet when it comes to the evil Sarah Palin, Noonan suddenly becomes Miss Fact-Checker/Hair-Splitter and faults Republicans for "telling themselves Palin myths." Um, hello? What was that whole Ronald Reagan/George H. W. Bush episode about? You know: The kinder, gentler nation? The thousand points of light? Remember those myths, Peggy?
July 11, 2009 3:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Snowballs just melted Bwakfat!
We agree.
July 11, 2009 6:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Contradictory statements in the same (short) paragraph?
Perhaps are you saying that progressives should just wing it?
July 11, 2009 1:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fair enough question. No contradiction, I just didn't spell it out.
By "writing well" I mean that Noonan is a gifted stylist. I give her credit for that because she does have a gift for language.
Her content, however, is crap: It's inconsistent, revisionist, and falls apart philosophically if you analyze it. Her writing is emotionally driven, which is why it appeals to a wide audience. But the underlying structure of her thinking is not solid beneath the pretty veneer.
The emotion driving this particular piece is jealousy. Noonan is jealous of Palin. Like, wow! Battle of the queen bees.
People become seduced by Noonan's style, mistaking it for content. I am saying I can't think of any progressive writers who are gifted stylists. Progressive writing is lots of tedious content in brown wrapper packages. Have you ever read Al Gore, for example? Smart man, but a deadly dull writer.
July 11, 2009 2:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
I see nothing about jealously in Noonan's column. There is nothing to indicate that Noonan wanted public office and Noonan can assume the bully pulpit whenever she chooses (just look at this column, for example!)
As I pointed out above, regardless of what you may think of Noonan and her history, doesn't get around the fact that she makes some very good and effective points here. In fact, I believe that both the left and the right should want Palin off the public stage as she is a real danger to general stability.
Nothing wrong with finding a little common ground. Tip ONeil and Ronald Reagan understood this and so should we.
July 11, 2009 2:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's not a "fact," it's your opinion that Noonan makes good points. It's my opinion Noonan has nothing new to say about Palin. I could eviscerate her column in 3 quotes.
Neither does Peggy. That's the funny part.
Noonan says of Palin:
And then she goes on to rehearse Palin's history at length. It's quite amusing.
"Friendliness"? Try stadium-packing adulation. Try mouth-agape lust. Try wild enthusiasm.
Girl?
Anyway, don't give up your day job to become a literary critic, clearthinker.
July 11, 2009 3:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
And I can eviscerate you:
Um...that's your opinion not a fact. You hardly convinced me.
You see jealousy in the column. And somehow that makes you more insightful? No. You assert it, but without proof. And the proof would be hard to come by since you would have to be arrogant enough to claim you know what's going on in Noonan's head.
Here's the jealousy that I see going on:
Noonan has a national forum.
You are stuck on TPM.
You are very jealous of Noonan's reach.
July 11, 2009 6:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're hilarious, clearthinker. You have no idea what my "reach" is because you don't know my name or my field. Trust me, you lost this round.
I don't begrudge Noonan her success, nor am I jealous of her. I have no reason to be jealous. I'm not a speechwriter, nor do I aspire to be. As I said above, I think she has a gift in that capacity, which happens to be praise, fyi.
I see no reason to give her more credit than she deserves, however. There are limits to her talents. Nobody's perfect.
Please, eviscerate me some more. It's entertaining to see what you'll come up with.
July 11, 2009 8:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, I shan't "trust you". You act like a person with very little reach at all. That's what we will go with.
Your talk in this case is very, very cheap.
July 12, 2009 5:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Think whatever you like, clearthinker. That's exactly what I want you to do. Since I don't use my real name on this site, I have the freedom to write however I choose. It allows me flexibility and room for experimentation with affect that I can't get from my paid work. I've learned things from writing here that I couldn't have learned any other way. In the history of the written word, I'm certainly not the first person to use a "pen name." You yourself have used several. But whatever. Experimentation is not the main reason I participate here, although it is a benefit.
In any case, you might be advised to remember that TPM is a national stage. Bloggers may write for free, but the readership is significant, and the top recommended blogs make it to the front page of the site. That's why lots of people post here. For the immediate exposure to vast numbers of readers. Surely you do know this.
July 12, 2009 9:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Care to tell me which "several" I wrote under?
I've only used this one and Pirate Peet, however, Peet was only for fun and never talked political.
Of course, I've been accused of being anyone and everyone by a few here, but with no evidence at all. However, that isn't surprising given the amazingly bad leaps of logic these same people make in political discussions.
For someone who claims that is a great national forum, you certainly don't blog much.
You remind me of the guy in High School who keeps claiming to have that girlfriend in Canada.
July 12, 2009 12:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, geeze, we are now checking for working class credentials? This argument is as old as males standing around comparing member size.
By that definition, most people here should not be entitled to any political opinion at all because few have worked in politics (and I'm not talking about volunteering to campaign either).
Let's talk about the racism and bigotry endemic in working class families, too, just to make it real.
July 11, 2009 6:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lalo, you ask a very good question. To be fair, I consider my friends working class but then, I consider myself working class. But you mean, "do these people understand Palin's base?" and I'd say they don't. But it doesn't matter because they do understand that Palin's base isn't large enough to put her over in a general election and they know that Palin isn't a talented enough politician to pull off a national win so they want her gone.
I might ruffle a feather or two by saying this but... I don't think "President Palin" is any more realistic than "President Kucinich" and that's what Noonan knows.
July 11, 2009 5:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Noonan has been beside herself since Palin came on the scene. What she doesn't admit is that the Republicans invited people like Palin to rise to the top, considering the example they had in George Bush. If that son of a bitch could make it, any determinedly ignorant assholish person could. The one moment of the Vanity Fair article that will stay with me is when Palin says something like, "Does it really matter?" with regard to knowing anything about anything and getting votes. Much more insightful than Noonan, frankly.
July 11, 2009 12:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Aside from the overgeneralized praise of Noonan -- let's just say that she is being frank and, on the whole, spot on in this instance -- there are two things about Palin to keep in mind.
First, she may be everything Noonan says she is and more, but, like Agnew, and for a long time, W Bush, and still Reagan, she has broad appeal. Over time, she may gain sufficient national polish, but her resignation (if not for scandal or the money as some have suggested) may buy her time for that. On the other hand, she might just be sick of politics, at least for now.
Second, as a general point, the notion of distinguishing between schoolteachers as 'middle class' as opposed to working class is misplaced. What we call the 'middle class' in the US IS the proletariat, or working class. It has been true now for 1/2 a century that the majority of the working class/proletariat has not been strictly speaking blue collar. It is also true that being a schoolteacher is not unskilled or "semi-skilled" (the latter nicely exposed by Braverman as a euphemism, for jobs requiring skills like being able to navigate a modern cash register). So 'schoolteacher' is, depending on the type (professors in higher education, even the lowest ranked and lowest paid, would fall in the professional middle class), a skilled worker, just a WHITE COLLAR skilled worker, just as we have no problem placing a skilled tool and dye maker, auto mechanic, etc in the working class. Some of the teaching jobs requiring the highest levels of skills might be considered professional positions, but including teachers, based on pay, status, and other factors, in the 'working class' is not too much of a stretch, and certainly not something to fault Palin or her fans for.
But don't count out someone as so out of their depth (a disagreement I had in an on-air discussion with Burnard White at WBAI back in Sept 08) if they are a Republican. It doesn't take a whole lot of intellect (or might even require, as w/Clinton, a certain avoidance of the egghead image) to succeed especially as a Republican in politics.
Remember: IOKIYAR!
July 11, 2009 1:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cloudy, you always bring reason to the debate. The working class and the middle class in the US is indistinguishable from the working class. Far as I'm concerned, if you need to go to work 5 times a week to stay afloat, you're working class. It's not about physical or mental labor it's about performing other people's labor.
July 11, 2009 7:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Working-class" reminds me of this recent assessment by a 'B' movie actor of the suitability of Sotomayor for the Court.
His premise, if one could call it that, was that just because Soto had been raised in the projects by a single mother, so what, so was he and that was no qualification for appointment to the Court. Not only that, he had been homeless and on food stamps...and then his proud, inane (stentorian) declaration, "Nobody helped ME."
That's right, create the reality you prefer to live in, but for god's sake don't live in reality.
July 11, 2009 1:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
These lines, in particular, stand out for me:
Indeed, too many (most?) people simply pick a side and try to view the entire world through that lens. Facts should proceed judgment, not the other way around. Most ideology and dogma would fall -- and human history would be extremely different -- if only we could learn how the "other side" thinks and why.
July 11, 2009 1:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Peggy Noonan may have had a moment where she was honest, but "an honest conservative" she is not. There are few of them to begin with, but she ain't one of em. The hallmark characteristic of conservatives in this day and age is their 100% willingness to be dishonest if it is to their political advantage. This has become so ingrained in their modus operandi they no longer are able to distinguish between the actual lies they tell and what the truth actually is. I've seen Noonan lie so many times it boggles the mind. So, a moment of honesty perhaps, but let's not go overboard and call this smarmy liar "an honest conservative."
July 11, 2009 1:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is the same broadbrush stroke that you might find on FNC (against "liberals").
I suspect you will again say this is "just your opinion" as you did before, but your statement is one of fact.
Not going overboard is a good warning. It applies to all points on the spectrum.
July 11, 2009 1:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
'Politics is policy' is right out of Rove's political play-book and anyone who thinks Republican Rove has disappeared into the woodwork is a fool.
Noonan was Reagan's speech writer and if she could make him look good, she is equally capable of making Palin look bad. She's not a policy wonk - she's a speech writer.
July 11, 2009 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Peegy Noonan writes that Sarah Palin is "self-referential to the point of self-reverence"? An understatement. Try "delusions of royalty."
Mrs. Palin actually said she loves Alaska so much that she's "sacrificing her title" for the state.
See:
http://notionscapital.wordpress.com/2009/07/07/sarahs-sacrifice/
July 11, 2009 6:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
My thoughts on Palin, using selected quotes
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
Abraham Lincoln
If the heavens throw you dates, you got to keep your mouth open.
Navjot Singh Sidhu
Even a cock crows over his own dunghill.
Navjot Singh Sidhu
If you've got a big mouth and you're controversial, you're going to get attention.
Simon Cowell
I'm very close to suggesting that Mr. Pitt has now served as long as he can usefully do so. He seems to take his foot out of his mouth only for purposes of changing feet.
John Dingell
"A farmer in Ohio has carved a corn maze in his field in the likeness of Sarah Palin. The way it works? You enter and suddenly realize you're way over your head." --Amy Poehler
"She kept reaching out to Joe Sixpack. That's because her answers make more sense after six beers." --David Letterman
July 12, 2009 7:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh ferchrisesakes, Gitlin!!!!
This is a laughable commentary. Peggy Noonan is a twit; a melodramatic, exceedingly self-referential, diva in her own mind! I can actually see her flipping her hair as she wrote her column.
Peggy Noonan--the new darling of liberals who hate Sarah. Join the new club: LHS: Peggy Noonan and MoDo, working together to take down Palin and making fools of themselves in the process! Newest member of the club: Todd Gitlin!
Sarah Palin isn't working class? Her father was a teacher and a coach, her mother a school secretary, and that's not "working class"?!?
You see, that is the most ludicrous and CONDESCENDING and absurd argument, like, EVAH.
But now, Todd Gitlin thinks that argument makes sense. Pathetic, Todd. What constitutes "working class," after all? You know what a teacher and a school secretary make in a year now, much less during the 60s? If that isn't working class, there's no such thing.
Or....perhaps, it's just the height, or depth, of HYPOCRISY, Todd, that would make you think Noonan's delusional, demented drivel is worth highlighting.
I thought you were smarter than that, Todd. Sheesh. How disappointing.
July 12, 2009 8:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well as long as she's ragging on another fellow republican, Gitlin is in love.
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