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Top 10 Reasons the U.S. Isn't Getting its Panties in a Bunch over Honduras

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www.KatieHalper.com

In its response to the events of Honduras, the Obama Administration is acting like a CT (Coup-tease), whose commitment phobia and"joint military operations. " intimacy issues render it paralyzed and unable to engage in a healthy relationship with Latin America. The Administration flirts with the idea that the coup is really a coup, and it has coquettishly suspended

Ultimately, however, Obama has refrained from doing the deed, which would mean cutting off aid to Honduras until Zelaya is reinstated. Obama promised he wasn't like all the other guys, but he is repeating some of the behavior and habits displayed by former presidents.

1. At the end of the day, the coup is just not as tweetable as Iran. 

2. Treating it as a coup is waaaay too trendy. Everybody is doing it.

3. We kinda sorta trained the coup leaders at the School of the Americas so it's like kinda awkward. Both Honduran coup leader Gen. Romeo Orlando Vásquez Velásquez and Air Force General and coup participant Luis Javier Prince Suazo attended the SOA in 1976 and 1984.

4. Condoning Zelaya's mustache would set a dangerous precedent, which would have a domino effect that could spread beyond LatinAmerica. The specter of facial hair already haunts the faces of Raul Castro and Lula. Can we really afford to lose another country to a mustached leader? 

5. Obama thinks the new Honduran Chancellor, who described him as "That black boy who knows nothing about anything" is critiquing racism through satire.

6. We're nostalgic and going retro. It's been a while since the U.S. ignored and/or actively supported a coup in Latin America. Check out the 1950's timeless classic which started the craze "Guatemala" (1954), the 1960's hit "The Dominican Republic" (1965), the 1970's oldie but goodie "Chile" SEPTEMBER 11, 1973, and the 1980's series "Central America" 1980-1989.

7. It's still "too soon" to talk about anything but Michael Jackson. 

8. Obama may want to use the "Zelaya option" (kidnapping a pajamas-clad national leader and flying him to another country) on Joe Biden.

9. As goes rumor goes, so goes the United States. The coup Leader Roberto "Michelin Man" Michelett is confident that there are indeed rumors of support from Taiwan and Israel. ``Israel and Taiwan have said they support us....I don't have an official declaration, but that is the rumor I've heard... It's an aspiration I have that all of the countries will be a friend of ours. I have the hope and faith in God that they will come

10. Restoring democracy after a coup in a country where we have influence, power, and sway would be too easy. We prefer spending time, money and lives bringing democracy to countries that don't want it, through force and invasion.
Canciller de Facto de Honduras: Obama es un negrito que no sabe nada
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I mean, other than the fact that the Honduran elites are all about free trade and Zelaya was not so much into it...

Honduras is small, not powerful, and not in any way connected to islamic fundamentalism. Building democracies abroad is only fun if you don't have to learn anything new to support it.

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I'm disgusted by this post. People have died and others' lives are at stake and this dimwitted moronic twit thinks a jocular post is going to help, how?

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Hee, hee ... Aren't those tiny, little Latin American countries funny!

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I read the author as making fun of our own hypocrisy.

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It is a joy to see someone who does not have a severe irony impairment handicap blogging on serious foreign policy topics. I very much look forward to more.

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Well, that's the crux of the matter, AA. If you're talking about "verbal irony," it requires that the audience has a basic competence on the subject in order for irony to do its job. Considering the overwhelming malaise of public interest in things Latino in the US (Besides immigrant and Hugo hating) the line between irony and snark blurs.

That said, what do you want to bet that in that secret meeting between Hillary and Mel, that Hillary told Mel that all deals were off if he didn't abandon his movida to turn Soto Cano Airbase into a commercial airport?

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I would not say that she is using irony. It is sarcasm that I see. But quite refreshing voice indeed!!!

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Well it's true that the events of the past several years have caused me to lose much of my once prodigious sense of humor - at least where politics are concerned. But this post is just juvenile. It's neither slyly insightful nor satirically apt. It's just awkward and not funny.

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I thought about reading this, but then changed my mind at about the "... moustache" line.

Sorry. Not helpful. There are too many children who think snark = witty in the world as it is.

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"5. Obama thinks the new Honduran Chancellor, who described him as "That black boy who knows nothing about anything" is critiquing racism through satire."

Katie, you need to update this issue, and get a better translator. Ortiz actually made three comments to the media in as many interviews. The third was the worst:

"I have negotiated with queers, prostitutes, leftists, blacks, whites. This is my job, I studied for it. I am not racially prejudiced. I like the little black sugar plantation worker who is president of the United States."

The term used in Spanish is "negrito del batey." In the Carribean it is eqivalent to our "nigger."

Our Ambassador to Honduras, Hugo Llorens, objected:

"As the official and personal representative of the president of the United States of America, I convey my deep outrage about the unfortunate, disrespectful and racially insensitive comments by Mr. Enrique Ortez Colindres about President Barack Obama.

Statements like this are deeply outrageous for the American people and for me personally. I am shocked by these comments, which I condemn in the strongest terms."

Subsequently, Ortiz apologised and the Golpistas (Coup leaders) fired Enrique Ortez Colindres from his post as Minister of Foreign Relations of Honduras, replacing him with Roberto Flores Bermudez. Ortiz was then appointed to lead the Ministry of Government and Justice.

BTW, these appointments speak to an under-reported fact - that most of Zelaya's cabinet has been purged.


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Well let us hope that this little expression of endearment ("negrito del batey." ) seals the fate of this coup. Quite frankly I did not expect the Obama admin to really change our policy towards Latin America since there is only so much change that we can hope for from a single administration. (After all the Westbank settlement freeze has greater priority than anything going on in Latin America today -- and, unfortunately, I say this in all serousness.)

It may be that a major personal insult could change priorities.

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Yes, the Westbank settlements may trump Honduras right now, but potentially the scenario that could reverse that is the collapse of the very fragile democracies in Central America viz a viz the Honduran right-wing coup example. The right wing opposition to the governments of El Salvador, Nicaruaga and Guatemala are very strong, and connected with the Golpistas in Honduras through a series of business organizations and ideological ngos. Costa Rica and Panama seem to be stable, fortunately. (I recently listened to Ruben Blades describing the right wing government of Panama as "pragmatic" rather than "ideological."

And then there's Mexico. A few months ago I scoffed at the idea of Mexico's government collapsing, but now I'm not so sure. I think that the collapse of democratic institutions in Central America will have a direct impact on Mexican politics - and it doesn't look likely that Mexican politics could withstand more impacts without radically changing.

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Katie I appreciate your humor here but based on some of the above comments I think neobobo has a good point -- namely for irony to work your audience needs to share your level of understanding. Maybe it is time to invest some effort in basic 'US imperialism in Latin America 101' primers.

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And maybe it's time to recognize this as offensive regardless of ones knowledge of western hemisphere politics. I THOROUGHLY UNDERSTOOD WHAT WAS PRESENTED AS DID OTHERS HER. Your comment is demeaning.

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Wow, I guess I have to bear some of the responsibility for this, jonnie. Syvanen was carrying forward something I expressed. I intended to be "demeaning" I suppose, but I was writing generically about it - I certainly wasn't aiming it at you personally. Nevertheless I apologize - I should have been more civilized.

The interesting thing is that I agree with your original posting - but after reading AA's post I wanted to be conciliatory and give the author the benefit of the doubt.

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Thank you, this gives me a chance to state my gratitude on your reporting of this subject. Sadly in this country support goes to the quickest. Leaders of the coup were able to control the message early and gain sympathy or cause confusion in our populace. My mother didn't understand the situation as it originally unfolded. After forwarding many of your links and posts to her she was able to discard the various straw men and see the story as it truly existed.

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"jonnienohand" -- really? No hand? That's quite a talent!

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Irony is observed in things sarcasm is expressed. So Clearly it is sarcasm....or as the bearded fellow says "Verbal Irony"

I thought the post was excellent myself.

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Maybe a little condenscending, but not demeaning. But in any case I was out of line, I do have respect for those that I was criticizing.

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I agree 100% with aa.

This post reminds me of the satirical pieces often encountered in the Israeli media and I enjoy them, too. There are many bitter truths expressed there as well, but I can understand that someone unfamiliar with the context could react..... WTF??? and take umbrage.

Welcome to Teh Cafe, Katie Halper. We badly need someone here who has enough knowledge of the region to dare to joke about it.

Kudos and please keep us posted.

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Is it not remarkable how little respect the ruling class has for Obama that they would oust the sitting President as they did and then have their puppet representative assail him with racial insults. I guess they're quaking in their boots at the prospect the US might be upset about the coup huh? The US has no integrity at all. The President should have made a forceful statment and then sent an escort of US fighter planes with the ousted President to restore him to power. But I'm sure the Wall Street boys have their fingers in the pie down there and are just pleased as punch to see the coup. And it seems pretty clear whatever makes Wall Street thieves happy is a-okay with our El Presidente.

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I thought it was great satire, and right on target. Bravo! Bravo!

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After reading your bio Katie, I'm now your #1 fan. Your my hero....

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I must be dense today, but this completely baffles me. I know it is a parody, but a paody of what? Right Wingers attacking Obama? Left wingers attacking Obama? Obamanauts attacking anyone who critizes Obama.

It just doesn't make sense.

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The coup Leader Roberto Michelett is confident that there are indeed rumors of support from Taiwan and Israel. "Israel and Taiwan have said they support us....I don't have an official declaration, but that is the rumor I've heard... It's an aspiration I have that all of the countries will be a friend of ours. I have the hope and faith in God that they will come."

As Taiwan blows, so blows Panamá:

Ricardo Martinelli, backed by an unprecedented 60% election victory, was sworn for a five-year term in Panama City on July 1st, becoming the 5th democratically elected president since the dictatorship of Manuel Noriega was ended by a U.S. military invasion in 1989. The new president, with a reputation as a fighting political conservative, wasted no time in letting his Latin American neighbors know where Panama now stands. Said he: “Panamá has to be a leader of freedom and justice, not only here in our home, but in our region and our continent. As president, I will do everything within my power to advance the ideals of a free economy, defying the ideological pendulum in Latin America."

Will the Pendulum of Evil be deterred as well as ‘defied’? Please stay tuned, everybody!

Happy days.

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This kind of upheaval certainly wouldn't have happened if the United Fruit Company still ran Mesoamerica! Ha-rumpf! (It woulda' been bigger, bloodier.) And then there's this:

The growing isolation of the Honduran coup leaders was underscored the other day, when – in response to "president" Roberto Micheletti’s claim that Tel Aviv had agreed to recognize the military regime – the Israelis denied it. When you’re an international pariah and not even the Israelis or the Taiwanese will recognize you, it’s time to hire an expensive public relations firm.


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It's "The Cormac Group," Curt. At least they are rep'ing the Honduran coup delegations that schmoozing with the GOP right now as I write.

http://www.thecormacgroup.com/

I wish PsuedoCyAnts would run this group through his database - it might be interesting. The name John McCain keeps popping up, f'rinstance.

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