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What is a Reasonable Compromise on Health Care Reform?

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All politics is about the art of compromise. But when is a compromise a victory and when is it a sell out?

A good compromise is one that improves people's lives, upholds basic principles, changes power relations, and lays the groundwork for further reform.

There's lots of talk about "compromise" in the current debate over health care reform. But it isn't clear what standards pundits, politicians, lobbyists, and activists are using in determining what is and isn't a reasonable compromise.

For progressives, the principles involved in health care reform are straightforward.

First, it should be "universal" - everyone should be covered, regardless of income or medical condition. Now, more than 50 million Americans lack health insurance. A new report by the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation predicts that the number of uninsured could reach 66 million in ten years.

Second, it should cover the medical services that Americans need. It should not exclude people with "pre-existing conditions" - people who need insurance the most. People should have easy access to doctors and nurses of their choice, with an emphasis on preventative and primary care. Doctors should be allowed to prescribe the medicines, conduct the tests, and perform the procedures that they and their patients think are appropriate.

Third, it should be efficient in terms of costs. The U.S. now spends about twice per capita on health care (about $8,000), and a much higher proportion of our GDP (17%), than Canada and many European nations. Despite this, we still have many people who lack insurance, the highest infant mortality rate and the shortest life expectancy. For many Americans who have health insurance, the cost of premiums, and the cost for medicines and services not covered under their insurance plans, is untenable. Medical expenses is the biggest cause of bankruptcy. Administrative costs consume about three to six times that of Western European nations and Canada.

Based on these principles, a single-payer health system would be the best reform. In this approach, doctors and other providers, hospitals, drug companies, and medical suppliers would remain private, as they are now. But the federal government would provide the insurance for everyone, replacing the current inefficient mosaic of private insurance corporations. One way to envision single-payer is "Medicare for All."

Many health experts, as well as many Democrats in Congress, think that a single-payer system would be the most effective way to provide quality universal health insurance at a reasonable cost. But a single-payer system is "off the table," in terms of political reality, mostly because of the opposition of the insurance corporations and drug companies.

So President Barack Obama and most Democrats in Congress are pushing for a "public option" -- a government insurance plan, like Medicare, for those who can't afford, or whose employers don't provide, decent private insurance. About 70% of Americans say they want a public option. Adopting such a plan should be a slam dunk. So why is it so controversial? Well, it really isn't, except inside the Beltway, where public opinion vies with campaign contributions for the hearts and minds of our elected officials.

Why is a public option needed? Without it, it will be impossible to reduce the cost of health care, which is driven by the outrageous greed and costly inefficiencies of the insurance and drug industries. A public option would guarantee that every American would have access to health insurance and would provide a benchmark of costs and quality that could be used to compare to private insurance companies in order to hold them accountable. It also would reduce the per-capita cost of health care and save Americans money.

As the New Republic recently noted in an editorial, under a public option, "The government can offer coverage cheaply, by taking advantage of its bargaining power and economies of scale. And, insofar as the goal of reform is to reduce the cost of care in the long run, by attacking the medical habits that encourage excessive or ineffective care, the government can make sure the public plan pays for services in ways that promote the most effective treatments."

Although single-payer would be the best option, a public option is a reasonable compromise. Any bill without a public option is a sell out. It fails the test. It violates the principles that should undergird any health reform package.

But, not surprisingly, the drug and insurance companies have been muddying the debate. They and their allies in Congress are now defining the public option as a "radical" idea. They are insisting on a "bipartisan" compromise that leaves out a public option. They're throwing up smokescreens like "socialized medicine" and "unfair competition." Their arguments are completely bogus, as well as hypocritical, but the media are letting them get away with it.

As Jacob Hacker and Rahul Rajkumar explain in the New Republic:

"Opponents of the plan paint a dystopian future in which the government takes over American medicine, limiting choice and competition. The claim is demonstrably false: If the public plan option were enacted, most Americans would continue to get private insurance through their employers as they do today, and the public plan would be just one choice offered alongside a menu of private plans. Yet a post-reform world of unraveling choices, runaway costs, and rampant health insecurity could well materialize--if critics get their way and the public plan dies as a health care bill wends its way to passage."

So let's be clear. The insurance and drug companies are the biggest obstacles to real reform.

The private insurance industry, led by its major lobby group, called America's Health Insurance Plans, reflects what is bad about our health care system. It is the insurance companies that come between doctors and their patients, telling them what they can and cannot do. It is the greed of the insurance industry that keeps people with "pre-existing conditions" from getting insurance and whose policies exclude so many services that people go bankrupt paying for out-of-pocket expenses. This is what's called rationing.

It is the insurance industry that requires so much paperwork that its bloated administrative costs push up the cost of premiums, compared with the much lower administrative costs of Medicare, the government-run insurance program for seniors. A public option that competed with the private insurance companies would keep them on their toes, and force them to provide better policies at a more reasonable price, or face an exodus of consumers. That's why they don't want it.

Likewise, the drug companies don't want a public option, which would expose how they inflate the cost of medicine that contributes to our expensive and inefficient health system. Drug prices in the US are much higher than in Canada and other countries that regulate costs.

Recall that in 2003 the drug companies and their trade associations deployed nearly 700 lobbyists to stamp out a proposal to permit the federal government to negotiate the cost of drugs for Medicare recipients. Instead, the Bush administration and the GOP-controlled Congress added a drug benefit to Medicare, but prohibited Medicare officials from negotiating prices with drug manufacturers. It also guaranteed that private insurance companies, not Medicare, administer the drug benefit program. This dramatically increased Medicare costs for taxpayers. Seniors, meanwhile, wound up paying much more in out-of-pocket expenses for prescription drugs.

Faced with the possibility of a public option that will hold them accountable, the insurance companies, drug manufacturers, hospitals, and doctors lobby are pledging to voluntarily trim their costs. But if we've learned anything from the deregulation mania of the past few decades -- particularly how it unleashed an epidemic of irresponsible and predatory behavior by banks -- its that we can't expect for-profit corporations to police themselves. Even former Federal Reserve chair Alan Greenspan had to acknowledge that it doesn't work.

To thwart any public option, the insurance and drug lobbies are flooding Congress with campaign contributions. The Washington Post recently reported that private insurance corporations, drug companies, hospitals, and their lobbyists spent more than $126 million on lobbying in the first quarter of this year - equal to about $1.4 million a day. According to the Post, the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA) spent almost $7 million in the first quarter, double its lobbying warchest from last year. Its president is Billy Tauzin, a former Republican congressman from Louisiana. Pfizer, one of the biggest drug companies, spent $6 million on its own.

These health industry lobby groups also hired more than 350 former government staff members and retired members of Congress to lobby for them. Two of them are former chiefs of staff for Sen. Max Baucus, chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, who is a key player in writing the health reform bill. More than 50 former employees of that committee or its members are now lobbying for the healthcare industry. Among the at least 10 former members of Congress peddling their influence are former House majority leaders Dick Armey (a Texas Republican) and Richard Gephardt (a Missouri Democrat), who are now paid lobbyists for a New Jersey pharmaceutical firm.

Every Republican in the Senate is in the pockets of the insurance and drug lobbies, led by Charles Grassley of Iowa. Grassley, a key sponsor of that 2003 bill on behalf of the pharmaceutical lobby, is leading the opposition to a public option. The Republicans are united behind Grassley. They want a so-called "middle ground" that doesn't include a public option. But the public option is the middle ground - smack dab in-between a single-payer system and an unregulated "free market" run by the insurance and drug companies

In the current issue of the National Journal, columnist Jonathan Rauch argues that it is worth scuttling the public option in order to win enough Republican votes to call health reform a bi-partisan compromise.

He's wrong. Obama doesn't need any Republican votes to pass health care reform. It would be nice to have some. But it isn't worth bribing a few GOP Senators to support health care reform if it is stripped of its most important components and violates the principles of a reasonable compromise.

A bigger problem is the handful of so-called "moderate" Democrats in Congress who say they oppose a public option or are sitting on the fence. They may not be owned by the drug and insurance companies, but it looks like they are for rent. They are led by Baucus, and include Senators Dianne Feinstein (Calif.), Kent Conrad (N.D.), Blanche Lincoln (Arkansas), Mary Landrieu (La.) and Kay Hagan (N.C.). Without these moderates, Obama can't get the 60 votes he needs to pass a filibuster-proof bill.

What's needed now is a concerted grassroots campaign to target the moderate Democrats to support a public option. In recent weeks, groups such as Health Care for America Now (HCAN), the Service Employees International Union, and MoveOn.org have been focusing on these fence-sitters by running ads and mobilizing voters.

But that's not enough to beat the influence of the insurance and drug companies. As Harold Meyerson wrote in a recent Washington Post column, it is time for President Obama to unleash his " greatest political asset, the list of 13 million supporters that the Obama presidential campaign amassed last year." That list includes large numbers of volunteers in every state and Congressional district. Utilizing that list to help promote Obama's agenda was the mission of Organizing for America, the group created after he won the White House.

As a former community organizer, Obama knows that enacting any progressive legislation requires a combination of inside lobbying and outside protest, what activists call "street heat." That's the lesson of the progressive victories of the New Deal, the civil rights movement, the women's movement, and the environmental movement.

The battle for health care reform is one of those rare historic crusades that comes along once in a generation, testing our capacity as a society to achieve major reform in a classic contest of organized people vs. organized money.

If progressives and liberals had their druthers, a single-payer system would be part of the solution. It isn't - at least for the foreseeable future. But the fight for a public option - as part of a guarantee of affordable quality health insurance for every American -- is still a supremely worthy goal. It is a compromise that will make America a much more humane country and a long-overdue victory in a struggle that began in the New Deal. It will also guarantee that Obama will be viewed by historians as a courageous and transformational president.

Peter Dreier is the E.P. Clapp Distinguished Professor of Politics, and director of the Urban & Environmental Policy program, at Occidental College. He is also chair of the Horizon Institute, a Los Angeles-based think tank on economic and political issues.


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I've got a compromise!

A single-payer health delivery system (did you hear the word insurance? No? Gee!) that has as its goal to provide preventive and comprehensive health care at a reasonable cost to all citizens, who pay reasonable premiums for a program that by its very nature would be less expensive because it includes EVERYONE, and therefore shares the risk. It would not be a government give-away; it would not be free; it would be an affordable way to have portable health care, which is what we should all have to start with!

Why is it a compromise? Because the bloodsucker insurance companies are not strung up by their collective necks for the crimes they have committed against all of us. Oh, and let's throw them a bone:

Insurance companies can offer enhanced coverage for those who succumb to the fears of wait-times for treatments/ surgeries.

And all of the employees who are out of a job can be retrained to provide actual health care -- not something they are even remotely interested in I know, but if the need a job....

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As Dick Cheney said, "we don't negotiate with evil. We defeat it."

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Peter - The case you make is incontrovertible and deserves widespread attention. I take slight issue with only a couple of minor points. First, I think it's unfair, regarding opposition to a public option, to claim that the press is letting them get away with it. The job of the press is to report what's happening, including claims made by all sides in contentious debates. Editorial writers are responsible for not letting people get away with things.

Second, it may be unfair, or at least, ineffective, to engage in mind reading of reluctant Democrats. To be sure, the insurance and pharmaceutical lobbies have immense clout, but in the current recession, many senators are also uneasy about the cost of a public option to the federal treasury. As you and others point out, health care reform that includes a public option would result in an enormous net savings in national health care costs. The problem is that the savings will accrue to citizens, but the costs will be charged to the government. What opponents have done, so far with some success, is to emphasize the effects on the federal deficit, without acknowledging the even greater savings the nation as a whole will realize. To portray this accurately, however, is a difficult case to make. Although the public supports a public option in principle, once they hear it will increase the federal deficit, they tend to renege on their support. This is particularly a problem for Democrats from relatively conservative states, whose constitutents balk at any program that will increase deficits in the short run.

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Really... Fred . . .

Although the public supports a public option in principle, once they hear it will increase the federal deficit, they tend to renege on their support. This is particularly a problem for Democrats from relatively conservative states, whose constitutents balk at any program that will increase deficits in the short run.

Great ... Those same "Democrats from relatively conservative states..." and their constituents would still be reading by oil lamps and driving their buggys on two-rutter dirt roads without the previous generations dragging their lame asses into the future.

Where's the problem selling the future of our health delivery system on that basis?

The future good health of our citizens and the economy is interdependent.

~OGD~

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OGD - why are you arguing with me? Why don't you argue with them?

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I think OGD is arguing with you because you are presenting arguments on behalf of those 'Democrats from relatively conservative states".

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Well ... Fred . . .

As long as you keep presenting every rationale to either support or "compromise" with these Blue Dog jackasses and the "Just say No Party" I can only assume you're running with their pack.

There's only two things I need to express; 1) By reducing costs the health of our economy will be better off in the long term. 2) By providing affordable coverage the health of my fellow Americans will be better off in the long term.

Oh and ... how the hell do you know what or what I have not done to actively make my wishes known to our lawmakers? As someone just recently stated, it may be "...unfair, or at least, ineffective, to engage in mind reading."

Now please excuse me while I climb back up on the turnip truck.

Cheers . . .

~OGD~

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OGD - Are you arguing that I should pay higher taxes for somebody else's benefit, even though I already have health insurance, and even though I have trouble making ends meet in these tough times?

Why would it be better for me personally to pay those extra taxes - never mind the "health of our economy" stuff?

The problem with these threads, as I see it, is that public option/single payer advocates here have been cheering each other on so much that when they encounter someone who doesn't agree with them, they don't know what to say.

I'm not asking them to switch positions. I'm asking that they learn how to compete with opponents in the struggle for public support. By themselves, abstract generalized concepts don't cut it when you're talking to the public.

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You seem to be continually conflating universal healthcare with a public option. I've seen no suggestion that a public option should be anything other than self funding.

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Let me be real blunt ... Fred . . .

You and every single tax-paying person in the nation are already paying through the nose for many under-insured individuals and families in addition to millions of unfortunate individuals who through no fault of their own have very limited or no benefits or coverage whatsoever. Take as one example:

32 million disabled adults (aged 18 or over) in the United States -- 5 million disabled children and youth. Plus if you add impairments and/or limitations that are short of disabilities the Census estimates that figure at 51 million.

factfinder.census.gov/...Disability Characteristics

Yes Fred ... You and I and others are assisting many of those folks already. If you cannot understand that reality then there is no room to, as you say, "argue."

And from this statement of yours:

...abstract generalized concepts don't cut it when you're talking to the public.

That appears to me that you have no clue as to what is even being formulated in congress, nor do you gibe anyone else any credit that they might just actually know what's being put together.

Try the list of links at my blog here at the Cafe and never tell anyone I didn't try to enlighten you to what the congress is up to.

Health Care Reform: House Discussion Draft Publications [All]

Get back to me when you're done wading through all that info. Until then, stow the "argue" bullcrap under that $50 rug of yours.

~OGD~


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Oops...

The link to that census data above is . . .

factfinder.census.gov/...S1801. Disability Characteristics

Sorry...

~OGD~

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31% is unfounded and at best vague. Is it 31% of gross private insurance premiums (and what about investment income), or 31% of total outlays nationwide for all of what passes for health care whether involving insurance, or what?

It's very convenient to pretend that health care does not involve allocation of scarce resources. Then you can give it away practically for free.

Medicare for all would shift huge amounts of the economy around, for worse or better. Public option is ill-defined, which one with what features?

$8000 per capita, figured over what expenditures and what population base for what benefits with how much fraud etc? Insureds only? Medicare/Medicaid included? What?

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There has to be an acknowledgement that economic status has priced people out of the healthcare marketplace and made it unavailable to millions of Americans.

After acknowledging the above then we have to decide if that is the country we want to be.

And that decision has to be one of the people.

If it isn't we have failed as a democracy.

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Agreed. If 74% of America wants a public option, and the public option is significantly cheaper than other options, then what is there possibly to negotiate?

If Haliburton wants to charge $6 a gallon for our troops in Iraq, but they only pay $2 a gallon for it, should we compromise and pay Haliburton $5 a gallon, or think about cutting Haliburton out of some of the action altogether?

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I say fuck Halliburton! Don't pay them one penny, and make them pay back all the stuff they cheated us out of.

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Thank you, Professor Dreier, it's all so clear the way you put it. Unfortunately, we're once again being lectured by the "moderates" about "what's possible" and are being told that we're left wing even though our position is, by most straightforward polls, entirely mainstream.

I would add one thing though -- the public option should be available to anyone who wants it, not just to people who have employers that offer insurance. Any American should be able to compare their current coverage to the public offer and pick what they like best.

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No compromise...

Single payer!!!! And I really don't care what Big Pharma and the insurance companies want. Our government represents all the people and we outnumber the companies the last I checked.

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I knew I should have offered to pay for the inauguration!

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What he said!

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Here's a good compromise for ya:

A single payer healthcare plan for all Americans just like every citizen in every other industrialized country has. Period.

Anything else is capitulation to the thieves and parasites that keep our countrymen untreated when they need medical care and paying five times more than necessary to be denied procedures they will have to pay for out of their own pocket anyway!

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I think a strong public option will inevitably lead to single payer, because if the thieves in the private insurance industry don't mend their ways, then everyone will choose the public option.

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Sorry, but I couldn't resist commenting on this gem:

"Although single-payer would be the best option, a public option is a reasonable compromise."

Yes, it is a reasonable compromise so long as you don't mind keeping the horrendous system of for-profit health insurance going at the same time which means the whole kit and kaboodle will cost trillions more than necessary. It is also a reasonable compromise if you think that the real goal is just to pass "something" that maybe, sorta, kinda might mean we'll get a single payer system someday. Of course, that day will never come because by the time the politicians have the balls to do what should have been done 30 years ago the entire nation will be so bankrupt we won't be able to afford any healthcare at all. Why compromise at all? The parasites need to be destroyed. It's the only way the nation's health ever gets better. For-profit health insurance sucks if you're a patient, it sucks if you're a doctor or a nurse. The only people it doesn't suck for are the corporate beneficiaries who profit from denying as much healthcare as possible to the greatest number of people who need it.

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Peter - I believe the Republican opponents of a public option claim it would be the first step towards a complete government takeover of health care - "socialized medicine" in their lexicon.

I'm less familiar with arguments raised by reluctant Democratic senators. What are their objections? My guess it that it has to do with costs, and the consequent need for additional taxes. Do you or others have specific comments from them that you can cite?

In order to refute an argument, we need to know what it is.

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If the only reasons anyone can give for this "compromise" is that it allows the thieves to keep stealing, and that our political system isn't a democracy but is instead a horribly busted systems of checks and (bank) balances... that is not COMPROMISE!

The solution is to do what is best for the American people. And without a shadow of a doubt what works best is SINGLE PAYER!

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But, not surprisingly, the drug and insurance companies have been muddying the debate. They and their allies in Congress are now defining the public option as a "radical" idea.

Of course they do, and they can do it because instead of organizing a million march on washington for a "right to free healthcare for all" fully funded by a special tax on CEOs, bounus, windfall financial profits, etc. "progressives" do everything they can to accommodate the thieves and prime their constituencies for ever more compromise.

Stop explaining to us what Obama cannot do and start explaining to Obama what he must do or else. The important debate is not about the exact policy, the important debate is about whether we are going to get really pissed until we get what we want or are we going to put ourselves to sleep.

Here are a few mottoes you should stick on the frame of your monitor and consult before writing.

Attack is the best defense.

Power concedes nothing without a fight.

Be reasonable, demand the impossible.

Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning.

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A good compromise is one that improves people's lives, upholds basic principles, changes power relations, and lays the groundwork for further reform.

I would ask for the privilege of extending this just a bit. "...lays the groundwork for further reform plans, strategies, and tactics for which are already laid, with implementation scheduled immediately following the celebration hangover"

Some of our problems come from using metaphors of war or games--winning v. losing, for example. Think of steps and keep on walking.

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Hmmm...

Gee ... I wonder if Myerson is on the email list?

Harold Meyerson wrote in a recent Washington Post column, it is time for President Obama to unleash his " greatest political asset, the list of 13 million supporters that the Obama presidential campaign amassed last year."

From yesterday's Roundup at Greg Sargent's Plumline

Obama’s potent political operation, Organizing for America, just reaffirmed the President’s commitment to a public health care plan, blasting out an email calling on recipients to call select members of Congress and demand “the choice of a robust public insurance option.”

~OGD~

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The French health care system is the best in the world so far as I can tell. It's doctors make 1/2 to 1/3 what our doctors make. Medical education is entirely subsidized so that doctors exit school almost entirely debt free. Medical lawsuits are practically unknown. How are you going to replicate any of that and, if you can't, how can you honestly make cost comparisons?

That's only a beginning. Most medical costs are incurred at life's end when our medical system spends enormous amounts of money keeping people "alive" for an additional two years. Ancd the very sickest people consume an inordinate share of total medical expenses. Do you have anything to say about that?

When making comparisons between ourselves and other countries one must look more closely at demographics. I don't believe the gross statistics since I am told by people who've worked in both the French and American systems that high-end American care is the best in the world.
Also one doesn't see enormous obese pigs in France but they are common here. That certainly has an effect on health care costs.

Finally, nothing you say shows the slighest recognition of our current financial condition. California is about to close its entire welfare system and many other states are not far behind.

Compromise my ass.

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As others have said, "reasonable compromise" is a misnomer here. An analogy: if a mafia thug wants 10% of my earnings, what's a 'reasonable compromise' there? The reasonable compromise is zero, zilch. When the corrupt sheriff walks in on our meeting and asks me to be 'reasonable' in my dealings with Guido, the reasonable thing to do is to tell him to do his job and put Guido out of business. Of course that may not be the Prudent thing to do, but that presupposes we do not live in a land of government by the people for the people. The bland acceptance of political corruption is what needs to change. There is nothing reasonable about compromise on health care reform.

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Hear! Hear!

Excellent comment Obey!

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Europeans in general, and the French in particular, smoke like chimneys yet the statistics say they are considerably healthier than Americans. So, obviously there's something very wrong with the picture we see.

What is it? It's a lie that the American medical system delivers health. It doesn't. It delivers drugs, and tests designed mostly to avoid lawsuits, and expensive specialists of marginal worth.

I remember Californians of the '60s as being the healthiest people I ever met...because the living was easy and relatively stress free, the food was plentiful and good, and outdoor living and sports were things everyone engaged in. And when you did have occasion to use the medical system it was cheap, simple, and delivered by caring people in clean surroundings. None of that is available today nor can any reforms make it available.

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I think a key strategic argument to make is not that it will cost the average American less under a universal, government-administered system, because perhaps initially it won't. And it will cost the government a lot. But the initial savings will accrue to employers, who will pay far less in premiums. And that will result not only in employees' share of premiums going down, but also employers will not only be able to hire more people, they will be able to pay their employees more.

Both wages and employment would increase under single-payer -- who could be against that?

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Well ... since you asked this . . .

Both wages and employment would increase under single-payer -- who could be against that?

I bet heavy money that the Top-10 publicly traded health insurance corporate weasels would not favor it, nor their share holders.

Thanks for leaving me the opening . . .

~OGD~

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Good point. It would be wise to organize an effort among employers to work for a public option that would reduce costs for them and their employees. I wouldn't target it toward single payer, because few employers would actually sign on to that campaign, but a public option might appeal to enough to make a political difference.

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A reasonable compromise is to give those health insurance, pharmaceutical, hospital and nursing home officials who created this mess only 10 years in the federal penitentiary.

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It's interesting that this post about reasonableness has stirred up so many extreme and unreasonable comments about thieves, prison time, mafia analogies, ...

If the new era is supposed to be decreased power of professional lobbyists, grass roots lobbying needs its voices at the table, and not just via astroturf on either side.

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To continue the extreme (tho not unreasonable) comments:

Reconciliation process. No compromise.

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From what I understand, reconciliation (ie. a process entailing a simple majority vote insusceptible to filibuster) is viewed by Kent Conrad and other leading Democratic senators as unworkable for meaningful healthcare reform. It requires that the bill in question be primarily budget-related and either revenue neutral or aimed at deficit reduction. Such a bill could be devised, but Conrad and the others believe it would be incompatible with provisions capable of extending access to affordable health care to all Americans, and would thus gut the legislation of its most important priorities.

I don't pretend to be an expert on Senate rules, but some of those who are believe that 60 votes will be needed for adequate healthcare reform.

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Revenue neutral should not be a problem since health care reform is supposed to save us money, right?

I mean, even if the government processes more taxes, this isn't a giveaway stimulus bill, is it?

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Revenue neutral is a problem when the savings accrue to the public but the costs are charged to the government. The net result may be cost reduction for the economy, but it would be a cost increase for the government.

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Sorry that makes no sense. You must be assuming a non-revenue-neutral scenario or now adding a qualifier of "private savings on health care at the cost of government losses on health care".

Health care reform shifting private costs to the government without tax increases to cover it is simply a recipe to kill government.

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You're right, Fred. The Byrd amendments I think force a sort of pay-go requirement to any bill with the reconciliation directive. We may have had a universal health care program fifteen years ago if not for Byrd's obstruction of the reconciliation process.

I think that can be worked around and shouldn't affect putting a public insurance plan in place (it couldn't be an omnibus bill). But both Houses and the President were talking about using this if needed a month ago. If the public option is allowed to be whittled away by Baucus and Grassly in the name of "compromise" (with our corporate overlords), then it needed.

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no offense but" All politics is about the art of compromise", is just plain wrong.

and i couldnt get interested in the rest of what you think a compromise is.

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I've just received a survey questionnaire from my Congressman (Republican) soliciting my views on healthcare reform. It includes 17 questions on general principles, and 21 questions about what tax increases I would favor if the government becomes involved in some way.

Anyone who believes that opponents of a public option won't try to frame the issue almost exclusively in terms of cost - specifically tax increases - is ignoring the political realities. Rebutting that argument will require a focus on net cost savings in addition to the benefits of better health and universal access. Arguments basded primarily on social or political philosophy will probably be ignored.

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