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South Carolina guv Mark Sanford has resurfaced. Getting off a plane in Atlanta on his way back from Bueno Aires this morning he declared that he went because he "wanted to do something exotic."

No one here at TPM has ever been to Argentina, so maybe you can help us out. Any guesses as to Sanford's exotic exploits? Searching for Obama's birth certificate? Hunting Nazi war criminals? I'll leave it to you.


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Scouting mission to see if the Buenos Aires airport bathroom stalls are suitable.

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No, he's just back from Narnia.

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Don’t want to be a spoilsport but:

This is a virtual eruption of Schadenfreude that is uncalled for inasmuch as the guy is being crucified for one of the most common and benign transgressions. I was not part of the Clinton crucifixion and I will not be part of the Sanford crucifixion.

However, that's not to say that the man is deeply flawed for entirely different reasons; reasons which scarcely make page 12 of the NYT on a slow day.

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Well, I found out it costs between $885 on Delta, to $6.177 on Mexicali Air (I did not ask for Business or First Class, BTW).

I don't think he had plastic surgery; it takes longer than a week to get over the bruising.

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The governor is going to learn the difference between dancing the tango and being in a tangle woven by his own deception. He should be honored with the moniker of the villain robots in the Transformer movies: a Decepticon. Time will tell if the con part of the title needs more emphasis.

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Looking for a good divorce attorney?

We may find out at his 2:00 p.m. presser...

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I once had an exotic Argentinian adventure. Her name was Lola, though his given name had been Juna.

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He loves being out in the woods with his boys!

That's why he disappeared to leave them alone with his wife for Father's Day, duh.

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maybe he wanted to disappear into the woodwork with someone else's 'boys'.

my favorite guess though is that he was the keynote speaker at a secret Nazi war criminal reunion.

couldn't get more exotic than that!

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Following tip from Rush Limbaugh on teen brothel.

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Checking out that yummy Argentine beef.

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Don't Cry for me Argentina!

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Prostitution is legal, drugs are easily and openly accessible, there is no coast road to drive along, its winter, wet and cold. The only thing that is exotic occurs indoors, the horizontal tango.

Wonder if he talks to his wife before or after the presser?

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Wonder who he will lie to more; his wife or the public?

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Speaking of talking to his wife, will the Mrs. be standing with the Gov. at his presser ala Vitter, Craig, Spitzer et al? That always sends me a strong signal, & I don't mean of the family loyalty/togetherness kind.

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Researching his upcoming role in the remake of Last Tango in Paris:

http://www.relocateamerica.com/south-carolina/cities/paris

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According to a friend of mine who has made Argentina his home away from home, the nightlife in Buenos Aires is just awesome.

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Checking out that yummy Argentine beef

CAKE

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Showing solidarity with the Iranian protesters, GOP style.

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Winner!

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He misunderstood the concept of "stimulus money".

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To be sure he only claimed to be against *receiving* money for stimulus.

He never said he was against *spending* money for "stimulus"

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He was hiding his guns from Pres. Obama.

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He's now got so much stimulus money, he is desperate to find things to spend it on.

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Buenos Aires has three major selling points: amazing ice cream, really cheap beef, and really cheap hookers. (So I hear.) Oh yes, and alfajores: http://www.havanna.com.ar/

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There are also really good chocolate chip cookies.
http://www.brooklyncompany.com.ar/homeingles.html

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Sanford has one passion: Breeding Argentine Dogos. The Dogo is a dogo... uh... I mean dog described in Wikipedia as "a large, white, muscular dog developed in Argentina for the purpose of big-game hunting, primarily cougar and boar."

OK. That's bullshit. I typed "Argentine" in Google and that was the first thing on the drop-down. But so what? Doubts have been raised that Sanford was ever in Argentina.

This is interesting, though: Prior to the 1940s, Buenos Aires was mentioned on any list of top half-dozen cities in the world. Paris, Moscow, New York... Buenos Aires. It was rich and successful, and was primed to be one of the key players of the 20th century. But, 60 years ago, along came Peron and his ludicrous wife, and their coterie of corruptocrats - whack! Argentina has never bounced back. Good article comparing that debacle with our own in the American Conservative Magazine (horrors!) from last fall, "The United States of Argentina"."The United States of Argentina".

I've asked this elsewhere, but are we absolutely sure this guy isn't related to Sir Allen Stanford. One letter's difference, you know. And Sir Allen was a myserious guy. With a mustache.

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Gotta read that article. It seems to put a finger on why I've been fearing Argentina is a mirror …

For all the beautiful and appropriately rueful tangos Sanford could be hearing in his ear right now though, I keep thinking of Mississippi's own Mose Allison (1min sample):

What do you do after you ruin your life?
Where do you go?
Who do know that will give you anything to go with good advice?
Do you tell your friend?
Can you face your wife?
What do you do after you've ruined your life?

Mr. Allison also would like to know what you do after you've blown the game and after you've been found out. I'll bet he's not the only one.

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Threesomes (relax, I'm referring to golf) with John Ensign and Gary Hart?

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The plastic surgery bit seems somewhat reasonable, if shortsighted. The problem is that when he's running for President in 2012 and echoes the standard "We have the best healthcare in the world" claim, every other presidential candidate will say "Which is why you went to Argentina for surgery, right?"

Honestly, my money really is on anonymous gay sex.

That said -- maybe he flew back to the U.S. by way of Buenos Aires, from somewhere else?

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I can't really disagree that he was down there for some sort of naughty reason. Leaving the family behind (on Father's Day weekend, no less!), covering up the flights, dropping out of sight for a week. I mean, come on. What blows my mind is how he thought he could suddenly skip town like this and not raise any suspicions. It's amazing.

Family Values Republicans always perplex me. I suppose having "family values" is a virtue as long as it's your family and not theirs.

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My guess is that we are watching the implosion of Sanford's presidential aspirations. Even if there is nothing hinky going on, the way it's been handled in the last 48 hours has made it impossible for people not to assume that something hinky is going on. Political truism: it's not the act, it's the cover up -- it's proven time and time again.

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...because someone told him they hold a Republican primary in Argentina?

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Getting spanked by his girlfriend, ArgenTena-X.

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He's mentally ill. Seriously. That would explain why his staff didn't know where he was, but acted as if they knew why and had to cover it up.

Since it's winter -- is there some kind of business deal so dirty, you can't even risk having a security detail know about it?

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yes, there is.

he was there to attend a Continuity of Government (COG) meeting of its secret participants.

but it was for the Continuity of the Nazi Government, not the U.S. COG. coup d'etat, baby!

that and the horizontal boy-to-boy tango.

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Because he knows that gauchos are more than a fashion statement! They're his bolo ponies.

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The most enjoyable part of this story for me is the long legs it undoubtedly has due to the gross inconsistencies & outright lies being told by both staff & the Gov. Driving the coastal road? Must have been doing that in a loop, considering how short it actually is.

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Do I dare give his team of misfits a decent excuse?

Okay, here's "why" he went there. He went to take a look at the circumstances of the 1920's inflation in Argentina that he himself has warned of, comparing that situation to the one we find ourselves in today and claiming this is the path Obama has put us on.

Of course, he'll need to get some librarian or historian to claim they talked, but...

What do you think? Pretty good, huh? If he uses it in the presser today, I'm going to get paid.

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Except if that were the case, he would have announced it before he left instead of sneaking down there, and not even telling his wife where he was going. Also, the fact that the office made up a story of where he was is very suspicious -- makes one think that the office realizes he is a loose cannon that needs to be shielded.

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He told his staff he was "spiking some Argentina tail," and they HEARD "hiking the Appalachian Trail". Easy mistake to make.

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Howling with laughter...really good one, DBD

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DING DING DING DING!!!!!!!

Damn! coffee coming out of my nose!

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Indeed! It's already been stolen and used on Daily Kos and other websites. Oh well.

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Maybe Conan will steal it, and they you'll really be famous!

-- ARG

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"then", not "they". Type much?

-- ARG

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I think he fathered a lovechild on one of his previous visits and the woman demanded that he spend Father's Day with little Marco or else she would spill the beans.

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i concur.

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He's not on Mike Rogers' closeted anti-gay Republican list although Lindsay Graham, also from SC, is, so with Sanford it's probably either hetero sex tourism or bestiality.

On the other hand ...

Who is the gaucho amigo?
Why is he standing
In your spangled leather poncho
And your elevator shoes?
Bodacious cowboys
Such as your friend
Will never be welcome here
High in the Custerdome

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Did he bring any Viagra with him?

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Arranging a coup?

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He told his staff he was "spiking some Argentina tail," and they HEARD "hiking the Appalachian Trail". Easy mistake to make.

I think we have a winner, with "looking for a good divorce attorney" a close second.

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I think he misspoke. He meant to say that he "wanted to do SOMEONE exotic."

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Maybe it is the Dave Chappelle deal. i.e. he went to Argentina for drug treatment or psychiatric care!

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Buenos Aires has the highest per capita rate of psychoanalysts in the world, IIRC, so that seems like a keeper.

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He obviously didn't stay long enough!

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Checking out a super-duper double secret CIA black site that Dick Cheney told him about. Even GWB doesn't know it exists.

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see what happens when craigslist stops taking hooker ads? your governor has to leave the country to get a little side-action without the missus and those meddling reporters poking their noses into his business.

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There can be only one.

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I hope he speaks Spanish. Not too many English speakers in Argentina.

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When you speak the language of love, your need no words...

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Is the language of love spoken in Dollars or Pesos?

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Not so much what you say, but how you use the tongue.

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@govsanford went down to south america had a hard time sneaking back into the states. now i know how all those illegals from mexico feel.

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I know of some people who like to go "Huntin' and Whorein'" in Argentina. Not implying anything about the Gov., just saying...

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WAIT! WAIT! I GOT IT!

He was trying out for the male lead in a remake of Evita!

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Don't cry for me, South Carolina!

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Don't cry for me South Carolina
My dick was hard, I needed some vagina
In Bueno Aires, in Argentina

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I'm still struck by our SC neighbor, the self-advertised "family values" Gov., splitting from his kids for Father's Day.

Neatarino for them- "Hey, Dad, I made this great present all by myself for your special day! Dad.....Dad.....???"

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Forging allies for his state after it seccedes?

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He was trying out for the Argentinian national team in the hopes of playing in the 2010 World Cup. Give him a break. A boy can dream.

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I hear Argentina is a big destination for cosmetic surgery tourism.
A quick Google search turns up a lot of options.
Possible?

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He and John Edwards went down to star in in a new episode of "Carolina Politicos Gone Wild."

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1. Learning the tango for upcoming season of "Dancing with the Stars."
2. Searching for Obama's real birth certificate.

3. On a secret mission to hunt Nazis for the Mossad.

4. F**king USAirways sent my hiking boots to Colombia, and I decided to make a sidetrip.

5. Peron has always reminded me of my father.

6. I love that Jimmy Buffett song, "Cowboy in the Jungle."

7. Went to see a man about a horse.

8. Maradona and me, we go way back.

9. Two words: golden shipwreck.

10. There's just really no better way to get away from the hustle and bustle of Columbia, SC than heading to a city of 11,000,000 people.

Thanks, I'll be here all week:
http://www.indigojournal.com/diary/927/top-ten-reasons-mark-sanford-went-to-argentina

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dude - you beat me by one minute (#1)

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Great minds and all that!

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He went for tango lessons for the next season of "Dancing with the Stars"

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With CAFTA, exports go both ways--and them Argentines luvs 'em a nice piece of aged US Grade A beef.

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He took off for parts unknown without even telling his wife? So that she had to go to the media to say "we don't know where he is or when he's coming back"? And he went to Buenos Aires?
I'm certain it was sex tourism.

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Exactly. He didn't tell his wife where he went, and his staff either lied about or didn't know (in which case he lied to them) what his destination was. Furthermore, this destination that he didn't want the public to know about is known as an emerging market in the sex tourism industry. I would bet my house that it's hookers.

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He was there for the annual meeting of the All-Male Naked Hot-tub and Snow Ski in June Club Annual meeting.

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Looking to see if the lost gold is still with the sunken trawler off the coast of Argentina. (Maybe he is involved with the company.)

Celebrating the anniversary of the Ezeiza massacre with other fascists.

But most likely just with a gay or tranny hooker.

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Hmm. What to do, what to do on a long Father's Day weekend.....hiking? May be. No wait, Buenos Aires!!
Very exotic in winter time!! That's it!
I bet he didn't even go there either. Did he take a private plane? Commercial airline?
Can we find any proof?? The embassy didn't know about it either.

As far as his wife 'not being concerned' - I read that as 'I stopped caring and won't cover for him anymore'

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He was accosted while leaving a flight from Argentina, wasn't he? Sounds like he was in the country, though, obviously, whatever he was up to was so bad he couldn't even risk his security detail knowing about it.

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I was thinking about how Governor Paterson of New York can't leave New York State, because in the event that he does, his governorship falls temporarily to whomever is next in the line of succession (unclear who that is at the moment, unfortunately). It's kind of weird that the governor of NY can't make a trip to hoboken or DC without temporarily relinquishing his powers, but it got me wondering........

Who's been acting as the head of state and the chief officer of the executive branch in SC for the past week or so?

Wikipedia says:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor_of_South_Carolina "If the governor resigns, dies, fails to qualify, cannot perform duties or is removed from office, then the lieutenant governor will become governor. During impeachment or when the governor is temporarily disabled or absent from office, then the lieutenant governor will have the powers of the governor. "

When the govenor is temporarily absent from office..............?

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Dude, there are about 150 million women in THIS country to sleep with.

And failing that, I bet plenty of Argentinian women would be happy to "hike the Appalachaian Trail".

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I suggest that perhaps he was suspending his reign as governor to save the taxpayers some money and balance the budget, much like a certain presidential candidate who single-handedly saved the US economy last year. It's just a theory.

My other theory is that the "live boy or dead girl" angle has not yet entered the story, because investigative reporters are waiting for secondary confirmation.

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure there is a special someone down in BA or at least a special person who can be paid for the evening.

He had a sleeping bag and walking shoes in the car but left them at the airport; we was trying to deceive someone (probably his wife) and sneak off on some "exotic" trip.

Just tell us the truth, what is her or his name, Governor?

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Arianna is saying that Sanford was actually in territory CLAIMED by Argentina,the Malvinas, visiting his Gurkha spouse, Festus, and their 2 adopted children.

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There's been a lot of picking apart of his "drive along the coastline," but when I first heard that I assumed he meant he was driving a boat, not a car. Assuming he's making it up as he goes along, he could just as easily say the was on a boat.

Having never been to Argentina (just Costa Rica with my family when I was 13), how believable would that be? Could he have gone fishing off the coast? Or just cruising?

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He's been to Buenos Aires twice before.

I went to London twice to visit my wife when she was my girlfriend.

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Great point!

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Along with liegemen, Victor Davis Hansen and Robert Kaplan, Sanford engaged in epic battle on the Patagonian plains against the Death Tax and its evil liberal forces.

Since then, VDH and Robert Kaplan have yet to re-appear and are assumed missing in action,

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You know how Obama has been having success picking off Republicans to work for his administration?

An idea:
Ambassador to Argentina, Gov. Mark Sanford!!

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Research for role in upcoming community theatre production of "Evita?"

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Sanford to cat house operator: "How much to have Consuelo to give me a "Hiking the Appaplachian Trail"?

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Secret negotiations with Hamas?

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I think all of us assuming that there was a woman or man involved are assuming that this person was already in Argentina; but it's certainly possible that he was meeting up someone there on a special get away... just a thought.

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Sanford's Republican right? So, obviously he was sneaking off to Argentina to meet with the leaders of the Nazi underground that have been in hiding there since the end of WWII to talk strategy.

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At least he can spin this as foreign policy experience by claiming he stared out the window while passing over Venezuela.

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In all seriousness, Governor Family Values Republican ditched his family the Thursday before Father's Day, ditched his security detail, stole one of their vehicles, drove to Atlanta, hopped a plane to Rio (where it's winter), and cut off all contact with the office and his family, left a lie about his whereabouts behind him and, apparently, didn't even check the local news on the Internet soon enough to detect the growing shitstorm.

Once you consider all of those factors, the only plausible possibilities involve some kind of compulsion either from external sources or due to a psychological problem. Specifically, things like:

1. To deal with a blackmail or extortion threat.

2. Finanical or health crisis with someone with whom he had a longstanding intimate relationship.

3. Nervous breakdown or effects of some more chronic mental or psychological problem like bi-polar.

4. Uncontrollable urge to binge on some kind of an addiction--sex, and/or drugs and/or gambling.

That's all I can come up with. The other possibilities simply don't make sense in light of the Father's Day angle. Whether it's some legit activity such as just a few days on a beach to clear his head or something more illicit like sexual tourism or some kind of financial shennnigan, nothing so ordinary makes sense given the Conservative Republican Family Values guy ditches family on Father's Day factor.

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He became obsessed with Rita Hayworth and wanted to live out his own version of Gilda.

Let's rename him Governor Johnny Farrell.

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Boy, am I lost here. Why in the world do I care about how this guy spent his vacation/time off ?

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Because he's the Governor of a state who left without notifying anyone. When the chief executive of a state is missing that's news. When his staff says he's hiking and he turns out to have been 1000s of miles away, when no one in the chain of command of the state had any idea, that calls into question his ability to be Governor. The rest is just run of the mill lurid details and speculation.

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Argentina has the highest number of psychoanalist per capita in the world. Maybe he just needed therapy.

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I haven't vetted this, so it may just be baseless, conspiracy stuff but it is interesting...consider the source, however and watch with skepticism.

http://www.infowars.com/gov-mark-sanford-confronted-on-bilderberg-attendance-and-media-blackout/

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to rbe1 (1:13):

aside from all the speculation, here's why you care: He's the head of state and the chief officer of south carolina's executive branch. If he's absent from office, his lt. gov. must assume his responsibilities. Who was in charge of the State for the past week?

And when governors or any other high-ranking government official takes a vacation, they're never completely out of communication, since they're responsible for directing their state's response to a natural disaster, etc.

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It's obvious this was a pretty poor attempt at a cover-up. My guess is the truth will come trickling out, with or without Fox Mulder.

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He's talking about the Appalachian Trail! The guy is a nut-case!

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Now he's apologizing, for "letting everyone down" and his lip is quivering -- he hasn't said a word about what he is apologizing for, though. I think if he went for psychiatric care he should go back and stay for a few months.

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Now he's talking about God's law -- and sin. He is rambling -- the guy is losing it. He says he is a person of faith. Here it comes: he is going to admit he is having an affair.

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Bingo! He just did!

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Hahahahahaha, another Repub who can't keep his pants zipped, what a surprise. Not.

If Sanford wasn't meaning to go down to BA to break it off, he sure is now. But it won't matter a tinker's damn to his presidential aspirations which are history after an open admission of adultery, no matter how contrite-sounding is SC's family values Gov. today.

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Kudos to Mrs. Sanford for letting the Mark stand by himself at the presser. At least THAT'S refreshing.

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Agreed, I'm sick of seeing the stoic, downcast wives these jerks use as props at their "I confess" pressers, although Diaper Dave's wife in her leopard print dress was interesting for the sheer classlessness.

From TPM's mainpage Josh has this-

"...But it's worth remembering whoever it was who said that none of us deserve to be known or remembered only for our worst moments."

What makes you think this is Sanford's worst moment, Josh, consider the screwing he's been giving many good folks I know in SC? Might not even be in Sanford's Top 5 actually.

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Stocking up on beef jerkey for that hiking trip. Either that or the Appalachian trail is a lot longer than we previously thought.

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Don't Cry for me Argentina!

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Argentina? Not the Appalachian Trail?

So I can't use the line that "The s--t was baring in the woods"?

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I just can’t get “The Girl from Ipanema” out of my head this morning.

I know, Brazil isn't Argentina, but still . . .

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