Liberal Bloggers: Outsiders Or Insiders?
First, a word of praise for "Bloggers On The Bus"---I'm so used to reading hostile reactions to liberal bloggers from the mainstream media and so many instances of exploiting some of the worst episodes or worst blog comments to smear us all that I'm slobberingly grateful to read an account of liberal blogging that's accurate and respectful (while not shying away from talking about some of our uglier issues). There's a lot to address that he covers in the book: the Clinton/Obama blog wars, policing liberal bloggers who want to make like wingnuts and trade in conspiracy theories, pushing back against the Dirty Hippie stereotype, and the "where do we go from here?" question.
But I want to address the question Eric raised about how the Obama campaign and administration has, while using the larger netroots and social networking structures already in place, put the bloggers themselves at a distance. As he details in the book, this upset a lot of bloggers, especially since the blogs themselves mostly broke for Obama and had a lot to do with raising his profile above Clinton's. Despite this, while Edwards and Clinton had blogger outreach, Obama didn't.
It strikes right at the heart of the insider/outsider conundrum that's plagued the liberal blogosphere since about 2006, when it became clear that we really were a force to be reckoned with. Believe me---for those of us who've been around when the only blogs the mainstream media would acknowledge were wingnutty and liberals felt like we were screaming into a void, this transition to power players has been unsettling. Blogs were built up for a lot of reasons, but as Eric notes, most of us got into this, especially in the beginning, because we wanted to vent. We had no ambitions to change the world, and when we started to get pulled in that direction, most of us shrugged our shoulders and said you can't turn destiny away when it starts knocking on your door.
But like many of the bloggers Eric interviews note, ours is the energy of outsiders. The metaphor people grasp for more than anything is punk rock, and it's apt (especially the way that people who break into the mainstream are berated for selling out). So, instead of being mad at Obama for keeping us at a distance, I humbly suggest that he did us a favor. If he'd brought the bloggers into his inner circle, then it would be a lot harder for us to criticize him and hold him accountable for what appears to be a long 4-8 years of selling out progressive values because the skittish Democratic mindset is kicking in.
Being outsiders actually makes us better allies to the Democrats when they actually deserve it. There were Clinton camps and Obama camps, but both camps jumped all over Chris Matthews for his relentless sexism towards Clinton, which is easier for us to do as we're independent and don't have to worry too much about whether our words reflect poorly on this campaign or that campaign's message.
The Obama campaign didn't try to be my friend, even though my blog Pandagon was deeply in their camp (much to the chagrin of our Clinton-supporting readers). Because of this, I don't feel even remotely guilty hosting broadsides against some of the stupider things the administration is doing, from the unbelievable defense of DOMA to their pussyfooting around on human rights issues to their inappropriate outreach to abortion and birth control foes in the wake of a doctor assassination.
This goes a long way to explaining how the liberal blogs can persist over the long haul. If we maintain an outsider status and the energy that gives us, we can have the best of both worlds: an ability to wield political power and influence without having to stifle our opinions.






















This is a really smart post (and nice to see you back here) that touches on something all of us at the Cafe (and I presume beyond) are dealing with -- how do we handle Obama now that he's in power?
He's already off to a great start as President and it's frankly nice to see a Democrat who is so damned competent even though he took over in the roughest of times. Still, I have some complaints from the left and I'm not alone:
He could do a lot more to support equality for same sex couples and for homosexuals.
He can stop using "state secrets" arguments against people like the ACLU who are on our side and who rightly want the government to act lawfully.
He can weigh in more seriously for a big public healthcare option.
He can do more to extricate us from Iraq.
But, as you say, the great thing is that we can air these complaints and others without having to answer critics who might say, "You didn't complain about any of this during the campaign." Obama didn't let is write his agenda but he also didn't lock us out of the conversation. So the conversation is ongoing. We support him in general but push him from the left. It's not a bad place to be.
June 16, 2009 11:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
If it is admittedly true that the liberal blogosphere is not wholly in the tank for Obama, and not part of the Obama inner circle, then one has to one wonder why the blogosphere has become so boring? Why is there so little intellectual dynamism? Why is it that there is so little change and evolution? Most established bloggers seem to be writing variations on the same things they wrote two and three years ago. Everything seems stuck.
The agenda and boundaries for blogospheric discussion are apparently set by (i) wingnut Republicans and the silly things they say, and (ii) the Obama agenda.
Is there nothing else?
June 16, 2009 12:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, you were on about this in the other comment thread. I also stopped liking that band when they got famous.
June 16, 2009 1:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
I stopped liking them just before they played their first gig, so I win.
June 16, 2009 2:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Alright, so I take it you disagree with me. And irony is so much more easy and clever than pointing out why I am wrong.
June 16, 2009 5:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
You neglected to call me a hipster. Two points off.
I can't give you a substantive reply, since your criticisms are vague and sweeping. You just told me that everything I do and everyone I work with bores you. Okay, then.
June 16, 2009 8:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not everyone. But maybe you and a few others operate a fine old store in what used to be a happening neighborhood, but one that is now in decline?
June 16, 2009 9:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think it's somewhat a function of having elected a moderate lefty. We're dealing with the same topics because, on many issues, we were trying to convince the country during the general election and now... we have to convince Obama.
June 16, 2009 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Of course, he doesn't read us, so there's that.
Really, I think liberal bloggers are best at mobilizing people who then can feel more confidence in who they are and what they can believe so they can reach others. One thing that came up over and over again in the book was that most bloggers and readers start off feeling isolated and then they find a community and that makes a difference. Ideas start in the blogs but start to spread by word of mouth or on radio or TV or print media, and so the scope of our audience is much bigger than the direct audience. Reaching everyday people is, I suspect, going to be more important than trying to grab the ear of triangulating politicians. Once we have the people, the politicians have to follow.
June 16, 2009 1:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent point. I really need to stop saying "convince Obama" it's a larger conversation than that.
June 16, 2009 2:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ideas start in the blogs but start to spread by word of mouth or on radio or TV or print media, and so the scope of our audience is much bigger than the direct audience.
That seems to capture how the blogs felt three or four years ago, Amanda, but much less so now. A large proportion of blogospheric commentary these days seems to be of this variety:
"Did you hear? Glenn Beck said that Barack Obama is the head of a negro conspiracy to sap and impurify our precious bodily fluid. I am outraged!"
I'm sure you see this kind of post every day. But such posts are hardly a response to feeling isolated, since polls show that Glenn Beck and his ilk are now popular only with a distinct minority.
The constricted Washington bubble of approved events and debates absorbs all attention, even from all those "outsiders" in the blogosphere. Meanwhile, one significant global event after another passes with scant notice.
You're right that I don't read your blog. But I think you are in denial about how bad things have gotten. The lefty blogosphere is in a deep, deep intellectual rut. It's like an old vinyl record stuck in a groove. People are everywhere railing against rusted old machines, obsessing over legislative minutiae or indulging in idle and uninteresting social networking.
June 16, 2009 5:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
But I think you are in denial about how bad things have gotten. The lefty blogosphere is in a deep, deep intellectual rut.
I disagree with the extent of the problem you see, but I do somewhat agree in that, back in the early days, there was a lot more strategy going on. Two of my favorite writers are/were Bowers and Stoller, and when they were at MyDD, their posts were filled with real, in-depth analysis. (See here, for example...)
I don't see much of that anymore.
June 16, 2009 7:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think you underestimate how important it is to squash movement conservatism so it doesn't come back more powerful and fascist than ever. Considering that we've had at least two high profile domestic terrorism cases that left people dead in a two week period, I think it's premature to consider that task over.
June 16, 2009 8:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with your point here about liberal bloggers being outsiders. But, it's important to note that there is a reason the Obama organization has not gone out of it's way to bring you in. It is because they have viewed the liberal blogosphere as something to use and dispose of. Despite the tremendous support and aid bloggers provided Obama in the primaries and the kind of support he got from online communities and organizations--especially Moveon the Obama peole have treated the bloggers of the left very similarly to how the mainstream Republicans used to treat the religious right... a little pandering to them during the election and then forget about them and pursue the things you always had in mind despite the pledges that were made to be progressive, open, etc... Obama and his inner circle never intended to be anything other than the middle of the road, corporate Democrats they are proving to be.
June 17, 2009 1:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, as Amanda knows, Bloggers and their commenters have a tendency to say some very rude, unfiltered, politically incorrect and embarrassing things. So it is not surprising at all that a skilled, disciplined and scandal-avoiding politician like Obama knows how to draw on the strengths of the blogosphere while keeping it at arm's length. Bloggers should be grateful, since this helps them preserve their independence.
June 17, 2009 7:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
I really fail to see how the Republicans don't give the religious right what they want. I've heard this idea before, but anyone who's working for social justice for women or gays can tell you straight up that it's not true. Reproductive health services, particularly abortion access, has not progressed or gotten even harder to get than it used to be. The religious right even got its way in terms of raising the teenage pregnancy rate, a long-held if unstated goal. (They just obliquely admire the 1950s, when teenage pregnancy was at an all time high.) Republicans keep getting gay marriage bans put on the ballot as red meat, too, creating a legal nightmare for proponents to unwind. Also, Republicans have slashed so much overseas reproductive health funding that it's a bona fide human rights crisis. Again, just what the religious right wanted.
June 17, 2009 9:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
One of the things that I most dislike about what's happened to blogs like Daily Kos is that it's become really hard to talk about policy if one has problems with the Obama administration's approach to a given policy, because one is almost immediately pounced upon by a swarm of diehard defenders who come at you with ad hom invective devoid of any policy, factual or logical substance, who appear to see their current mission in life as that of unequivocal Obama defender no matter what. It's not that there aren't people there who aren't able to have and are interested in having more substantive discussions on various issues (whether or not they agree with you), because there are. It's just that the Defenders of the Obama Garter keep disrupting these discussions with their substanceless idiocy and venom. I half suspect that much of this is Mark Penn-style astroturfing specifically intended to disrupt criticism of Obama on the left and prevent the emergence of a viable opposition to his hypercautious center-right establishmentarianism. Surely it can't only be the bots. Or is today's left just a pale shadow of its former self, like the sad 25th anniversary corporate-sponsored version of Woodstock, made up mostly of liberal-leaning yuppies who so long as "Dems" are in charge, are more or less content?
June 17, 2009 5:55 AM | Reply | Permalink