Elliot Abrams: "Don't Cry For Me Ahmadinejad"
"The truth is I'll never leave you."
Sorry, I just watched the Tony awards on Sunday and couldn't resist. (Shout out to Neil Patrick Harris. You were amazing).
Anyway, in today's New York Times, Abrams is the latest of the neocons to publicly weep over the possible defeat of Ahmadinejad. Abrams says that election of a moderate President might deter war. He is worried.
The twists and turns of the neocons are almost beyond belief. Maybe it's not Israel they "care" about at all. Maybe even a theoretical Iranian bomb is just a pretext. Maybe all these schoolboys want is another real cool war against Muslims.
In any case, the pro-Ahmadinejad tilt of Bolton, Pipes, Abrams and the rest of the crowd that gave us the Iraq war is a demonstration of perversity unlike any I've ever seen in American politics.
And to think, they had the ear (and not just the ear) of the 43rd President for eight years.
Postscript: Many Israelis feel the same way. From today's Jerusalem Post. From today's Ma'ariv: "When it comes to the Iranian presidential elections, Jerusalem is convinced that it is in fact Iran's current president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who is the best candidate to serve Israel's interests. 'We're better off with him getting elected,' said a senior political source. 'The prevailing opinion here is that Ahmadinejad just speaks his mind. How are the others any different? They're just nicer, but they think exactly like him.'"



















Rec'd. I await, with baited breath (not), the first prominent current, or even ex- like Abrams, public official who says something like:
"You know, Charlie, I could say what all public officials say: I don't want a war. Wars are horrible and inflict the most horrific and senseless of cruelties on those who fight them. We must take every possible step to avoid war.
But the truth is, I want a war with Iran. And here's why..."
June 12, 2009 9:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Baited breath? Eww. What are you using, worms?
June 14, 2009 10:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Um...er...that would be "bated" breath, KASH. My bad.
June 14, 2009 2:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here is Krauthammer's take on Obama's engagement with Iran:
"You go the extra mile so that you're in position to do stuff afterward. Will he do stuff afterward? I doubt it."
June 12, 2009 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
I am not a fan of "I told you so" comments, but I have long felt and often said that the usual way the "sides" in the Mideast are depicted is incorrect or at least very incomplete. In many ways, the more accurate bifurcation is between (a) extreme Israelis and extreme Arabs/Moslems on the one side and (b) moderate Israelis and moderate Arabs/Moslems on the other. Every once in awhile usually encrusted "progressives" pull their head out of the left-right 1790s French Assembly sand long enough to see this reality.
I am reminded of an NY Times display ad, in a somewhat different but analogous context, that ran briefly in 2002 or 2003: It showed Bin Laden dressed as the classic Uncle Sam saying "I want you...to attack Iraq." Cheney & Co are not just hypocritical flaming hindquarters by nature, they are also utterly wrong to point fingers at Obama when in fact these bungling foul-mouthed neo-con chickenhawks were the best friends Al Qaeda ever had in America. The same perversity applies to the West Bank settlers' American tools, in spades.
June 12, 2009 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
PTroub, amen to what you wrote.
I haven't had time to look but I doubt I'd have trouble finding some folks from the pro-settlements crowd responding to the Holocaust Museum shooting with words to the effect of "See, Obama gives a big speech showing a lack of resolve and look what happens--our people get hurt."
June 12, 2009 11:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
MULTIPLE CHOICE TEST
This test will determine your ability to use analogical reasoning.
The neocons had the _______ of the 43rd President for eight years. Please choose the correct answer.
a. ear
b. brain
c. balls
d. heart
Bibi Yahoo is like ________ as Mad Mahmoud is like _______. Please choose the correct answer.
a. dumb/dumber
b. a mad dog/a crazy monkey
c. Frankenstein/Vampire
d. Beelzebub/Angra Mainyu
June 12, 2009 11:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
So, if he loses, I wonder if Ahmadinejad will follow Osama bin Whatshisname down the memory hole? Wasn't OBL the biggest threat in the world to these guys until they plugged Ahmadinejad into that role?
June 12, 2009 11:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
'The prevailing opinion here is that Ahmadinejad just speaks his mind. How are the others any different? They're just nicer, but they think exactly like him.'
Funny, people of the opposite persuasion often say this about Israeli elections, except that they substitute Netanyahu or Lieberman for Ahmadinejad. Both statements are wrong.
June 12, 2009 1:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Better yet: Doesn't that dickbag president of Columbia University owe President I'm-in-Need-of-Pants an apology for calling him a "dictator"?
What kind of dictator has 32 polling stations in the US and hundreds more all over the world to let foreign-living Iranians, including dual citizens, vote in elections?
How many foreign polling stations do the "moderate" leaders of Egypt, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia have for their expatriots?
June 12, 2009 1:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
the usa has a bad case of amnesia, blindness, deafness, and muteness when it comes to the dictators that the usa supports.
June 12, 2009 1:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
We all should be worried. If Iran elects a "moderate" as president, stops the spouting off about how they are the meanest kids on the block, and tries to live with the rest of the world, chaos will ensue. American armaments industries will be without a way to maintain their bloated profits. Dozens of their executives will have to find a way to live on less than a 7 figure annual salary. And, there will be far fewer lucrative, no work jobs for ex Generals and Congressmen. Can our country ever survive such a catastrophe?
June 12, 2009 1:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
We'll just focus on North Korea or some tinpot dictator in Africa. The military-industrial complex will never, ever run out of "enemies."
June 12, 2009 1:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
youTube: What are we gonna do for an enemy now?
June 12, 2009 1:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
link fixed:
Waht are we gonna do for an ennemy now?
June 12, 2009 1:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
The line that jumped out of me in Abrams' piece was this:
"Nor is it likely that the votes will be fairly counted; indeed most analysts concluded that the 2005 election was manipulated to produce Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s presidential victory."
An amusing concern from a member of an Administration that won election twice, under dubious conditions.
Adding to the unintentional merriment here, imagine what Abrams would be saying if Jimmy Carter were in Tehran working to ensure that the elections were fairly conducted.
June 12, 2009 1:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Islamophobic doctrine that the entire Muslim Middle East is just one undifferentiated race of mad suicide bombers, who don't respect life "the way we do", who don't respect the difference between truth and falsity "the way we do", and who don't even grasp elementary logic "like we do" is itself a kind of religion. It is a religion promulgated by hawkish and expansionist Israelis for decades, and by their neoconservative allies in the United States. What these folks are now worried about is that unwelcome intrusions from the land of reality might undermine the carefully constructed but psychologically fragile foundations of the faith.
The dehumanizing ideology of Islamophobia provides the ongoing cover for whatever continued oppression and dispossession of Palestinians the Israelis see fit to carry out. It is also the basis for the continued Israeli pleas to Americans that Israelis are the ones "on our side" against the murderous, terroristic army of Islam, and are the West's last Middle Eastern bulwark in a new 21st century crusade against the invading Saracens.
The anxiety on display goes beyond concerns about particular foreign policy schemes. It is anxiety over the possible crumbling of a whole frontier barricade of deception, fear and propaganda. It is also anxiety over self-images, and worry that a lot of recent fear and fear-mongering will be shown up as just so much hysterical paranoia. If one styles oneself a heroic fighter at the barricades, and is then revealed to be a quaking hysteric pointing guns into the vacuum, the experience is quite a threat to one's dignity.
For months, these guys did their best to keep Americans from even noticing that Iran was having an election, and that whatever the outcome, the highly imperfect but very real democratic features of Iranian politics are far less regressive than the autocratic by US-friendly regimes of our supposed Arab allies in the region. Now that they have failed in their efforts to direct Americans to pay no heed to that man behind the curtain, they actively and perversely root for the triumph of intolerance, xenophobia and brinkmanship in Iran, since the alternative is a threat to their own ideology of eternal hostility.
Whichever way the election turns out, the mere fact that it has been so intensely contested is reason to start changing an addled US policy toward Iran, a policy based on grotesque misconceptions and propaganda.
June 12, 2009 1:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
And: We support "vetting" candidates in Iraq. Has anybody commented on that contradiction?
BTW, we should ask Ralph Nadar about all the roadblocks we use to keep people off the ballot here.
June 12, 2009 1:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
It look as if Iran will turn out to be, in fact, the
only true democracy in the Middle East.
To my knowledge, IRAN has no record of proven and endemic corruption in government, as does ISRAEL.
Furthermore, (again to my knowledge, as I am no historian), Iran has never butchered hundreds of unarmed women and children, as happened in GAZA a few months ago, apparently as a deliberate tactic to spread terror in the civilian population.
If we compare democratic institutions, it will be likely that both IRAN and LEBANON will be judged far superior to ISRAEL where politicians routinely serve their own interests and not that of their electorate. A failing exemplified by Isarel's last prime minister and a previous head of state.
June 12, 2009 1:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Elections, such as those held in Iraq under Saddam, do not a democracy make. Even relatively fair elections, i.e. those in Weimar Germany, mean per se only that there was democracy for a day. They do not insure that the elected government will respect human rights or rule of law, or will not be so unstable as to lead to something more tyrannical over time. The most basic problem with Israeli's political system is not a lack of democracy, or even its lapses from human rights and rule of law (no country is perfect in these respects). The key, or at least A key, deficiency in the Knesset (as in the Weimer parliament) is the disproportionate influence of small extreme fringe parties.
June 12, 2009 5:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
@PT
*The key, or at least A key, deficiency in the Knesset (as in the Weimer parliament) is the disproportionate influence of small extreme fringe parties*
I believe the key to the problems of the Weimar Republic in 1933 was the economy. The key to the problems of the Knesset bears no relation to that.
It is the corrosive effect of corrupt government that lacks integrity regardless of which representatives are elected to it.
June 12, 2009 6:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
uhhh... not that I wanna rain on your parade BUT - Mousavi was prime minister when the Iranian decided to dispose of most its political prisoners in 1988. And when I dispose, I mean dispose. Construction cranes were brought to Evin prison, and trenches were dug on the outskirts of Tehran. Mousavi was one of the members of the revolutionary tribunal that basically signed off on the executions. Men, women and children were summarily killed over a period of three months (some women prisoners had had children while incarcerated). Between 4000 and 30000 were killed, and interestingly enough, this all took place AFTER the end of the war. It is in a way the founding act of the current Iranian regime, however democratic.
June 12, 2009 5:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hmm. Guess that "worse is better" perception is more universal than I realized. So... if the war's the thing, does that indicate Bush and the Pentagon really did allow Osama bin Ladin to escape Tora Bora in 2001 - so he could continue as scourge to freedom-loving peoples everywhere, and provide a pretext for our then-planned invasion of Iraq? Abrams was in on the high-level thinking at that time. Hmmm.
June 12, 2009 2:01 PM | Reply | Permalink