The Iraq Conflict Launched in 2003: An Ill-Advised War of Choice
In his speech at Cairo University last Thursday, President Obama described his views of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Referring to the invasion of Afghanistan after the attacks of September 11, he said, "We did not go by choice; we went because of necessity." On Iraq, his view was different: "Unlike Afghanistan," he said, "Iraq was a war of choice."
I delve deeply into all this in my recent book, War of Necessity, War of Choice: A Memoir of Two Iraq Wars. The book is a hybrid: part history, part foreign policy analysis, part personal account of my experiences with the policymaking behind the Gulf War of 1990-91 and the Iraq War launched in 2003. From 1989 to 1993 I served as senior Middle East adviser to President George H. W. Bush on the staff of the National Security Council. Then, from 2001 to 2003, I was director of the Policy Planning Staff at the State Department in the administration of George W. Bush. Based on these experiences, I argue in the book that the first Iraq war was a war of necessity while the second was a war of choice.
I agree with President Obama's characterization that Afghanistan was initially a war of necessity. The United States, exercising its right of self-defense, responded to a series of attacks on American soil by pursuing the terrorists responsible and those who allowed them to operate. Since taking office, though, President Obama has made Afghanistan a war of choice. He has decided to send additional U.S. combat forces to Afghanistan in order to pursue a modest but not minimalist strategy of targeting al-Qaeda, weakening the Taliban, and strengthening the central government. This is in contrast to more limited strategies he could have pursued, e.g., using airstrikes and drone attacks and building up Afghan security forces to combat al-Qaeda. My point is not that President Obama is in any way wrong, or that wars of choice are bad. It is simply that he has made a choice given that other policy options were and are available that would protect core U.S. interests.
President Obama is correct in his description of the Iraq conflict launched in 2003. It was a war of choice from the start. The United States had options besides force to deal with the threat posed by Saddam Hussein. It could have strengthened the sanctions against him and pursued more vigorous international inspections of facilities thought to be related to weapons of mass destruction. There was also no compelling reason to believe that the threat from Saddam was imminent. As I recount in the book, I was against this war, believing that it would be much more difficult than its advocates predicted and that it would take a large toll on U.S. foreign policy at a moment in history when the United States had a tremendous opportunity to shape the international order.
The fact that the Iraq war was an ill-advised war of choice that was badly executed does not relieve the United States of the obligation to see it through. The United States must do what it can to build a reasonably stable Iraq - both to avoid leaving Iraqis in a state of widespread violence and to protect broader American interests in the Middle East. This means continued efforts to build the capacity of Iraqi forces, action to combat ongoing terrorist threats in Iraq, and vigilance against the possibility of renewed large-scale violence over such things as the division of oil revenues and friction between Arabs and Kurds. Given all this, I believe it is highly unlikely that President Obama will be able to keep to the timetable he has laid out - and President George W. Bush originally set - to remove U.S. forces from Iraq by the end of 2011. To the contrary, the United States should be prepared to keep a residual force there for years to come.




















How do you feel about "America's Secret War", written in 2003 by George Friedman (Stratfor)?
June 8, 2009 6:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Two troubling assertions here. 1 is that all wars of choice aren't bad. What is a good war of choice? Seems to me that if you go to war when you don't have to, you're doing something bad.
Second is that the first Gulf War was something we were forced into. Saddam Hussein didn't threaten any American lives by invading Kuwait. I'd really like you to unpack your assertion that Gulf War I wasn't a war of choice.
Here's my case that it was:
1) We created and armed Saddam Hussein in the first place. Had we not done that, no problem.
2) We gave Hussein the impression that we'd let him invade Kuwait. If we had resolutely told him not to attack Kuwait in the first place, he probably wouldn't have. After the Iran-Iraq war, he thought he had license. We could have prevented the invasion in the first place.
2) We could have let him have Kuwait. I'm not sure why we wasted money, time and lives on the freedom of a dictatorship.
3) The big argument that I remember at the time was that Saudi Arabia was next. We could have easily prevented that without going to war.
June 8, 2009 6:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just duplicated much of your post:)
Why would TPM subject us to this CFR/Bilderberg propaganda?
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the discussion members read the book. Kissing up to the head of the CFR can't be as detrimental to a journalist's career as reading and discussing "Family of Secrets."
June 8, 2009 6:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
How about something simpler? A "War of Choice" has another, older name: A War of Aggression. Didn't we hang Field Marshall Keitel for planning the "War of Choice" against Poland?
June 9, 2009 9:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Did you help the Kuwaiti Ambassador's daughter rehearse her "incubator babies" performance, or was that left exclusively to the sub-contractors?
This documentary is the real story of Desert Storm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eG5D8JyTUw
Did you advise Bush to tell the Shiites to rise up against Saddam, thus setting them up to be slaughtered?
Did you advise Bush to continue arming Saddam in '89, despite having gassed his own people?
Did you advise the State Department to leave Saddam with the impression that we didn't oppose his invasion of Kuwait?
How was the Bilderberg meeting this year? How can we get tickets?
June 8, 2009 6:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks Bill -- we can't let them have this discussion about the first Gulf War without reminding them about all the propaganda that surrounded it. Do we really need PR companies coming up with phony stories of slaughtered babies to convince us to enter a "war of necessity?"
Sadly, I don't see anyone in this discussion who has anti-war creds, or who was anti the first Gulf War, so a lot of this will go unchallenged. Hopefully I'm wrong about that.
June 8, 2009 6:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
We might want to cut "H.W." a bit of a break we wouldn't cut "W."
With the collapse of the USSR the world did change. The relaxation of the restrictions and restraints which the two superpowers had placed their client states under could -- and in the case of Iraq did -- lead to adventurism.
Maintaining stable borders and heading off adventurism before it became accepted practice were a reasonable response of the remaining superpower. And to his credit "H.W." did limit the Gulf War to affecting just that goal and little more.
June 8, 2009 8:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, Bush Pere was a far better thinker and president and, as you say, he was sensible enough to actually forge an international coalition and to set some attainable goals for his war (though, to be fair, there was a lot of debate about "going straight to Baghdad" back then, and it was Colin Powell who put a stop to that).
Still... Iraq wasn't freed to act by the dissolution of the Soviet Union -- Iraq was our client state and so could have been easily controlled.
And Bush the father wasn't, despite Iraq, incredibly good at these things. Remember that this is the guy who got us into Somalia for no reason, and did so while he was a lame duck, leaving Clinton to deal with the mess and to, at the time, take the blame for what went wrong.
June 8, 2009 9:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Remember also Bush senior's role in the Iran-contra terrorism-appeasement fiasco, which was investigated with about 10% the Congressional Republican attention later given to sordid escapades of Bill Clinton's male appendage.
On the other hand, Colin Powell would have had a vastly BETTER argument for "going straight on to Baghdad" and taking out Saddam in 1991 than he actually had in 2003. Indeed there is NO good reason for imposed Iraqi regime change in 2003 that wasn't just as valid in 1991, 12 years and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives earlier, and with vastly stronger support of international opinion, worldwide allies and international law.
The key differences between '91 and '03 have little to do with mostly artificial dichotomies between "necessity" or "choice", still less with 9-11 conspiracy theories or strange obsessions about trans-Caucuses pipelines. The essential differences (and they are not without application to the contrasts between Bush41 and Bush43): relative competency and relative consistency versus rank incompetency and flaming hypocrisy. These are not favorite terms of either the feel-good pacifist "anti-war" non-movement or the ex-post quasi-neo-con apologia school of pulp writing, but they are very solid historical realities of key US policy decisions towards Iraq.
June 9, 2009 11:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
There is insight here amidst confustication.
Of course, from a standpoint of the national interest of the U.S., neither so-called "war" was a necessity; both were foreign distractions intended to repackage a weak unelected president as a "war leader".
But there were also crucial differences. Afghanistan in '01 was a unique opportunity to strike a unified targeted multilaterally-supported and globally-coordinated blow at fanatical terrorism. In contrast, Iraq in '03 was an opportunity to engage in massive and reckless unilateral incompetence. The Afghanistan liberation exploited international sympathy after 9-11. The cocked-up cakewalk to Baghdad squandered it.
Now these differences have in some ways been reversed, and to an extent -this being author Haass' valid illumination- not yet reflected in Obama Admin. policies. The long term U.S. role in Iraq now gives it a limited but not insignificant opportunity to influence, to its advantage, relations between Iran and Arabia, between Shias, Sunnis and the West, and between oil importing and oil exporting countries. A horrendous, outrageous and disastrously exorbitant price was paid for this opportunity, but those are sunk costs now.
In Afghanistan, however, as with Iraq in 2002, there is now only a set of choices from amongst bad options. Bush and Cheney had nothing remotely like a plan for either place, of course, but the consequences of their incompetence are now most grievous in the country where that incompetence was least egregious. Having won the "war" in Afghanistan, America is now losing the "peace", and having failed to develop an exit strategy is becoming bogged down like the Russians 25-30 years ago. Obama needs to come up with something much cleverer than trying to do now, years too late, what should have been done after the fall of Kabul.
In 2001-02 there was a clear generally accepted strategy for Afghanistan, but no clear way forward for policy on Iraq (despite the co-opting of Colin Powell as the chickenhawks' propaganda tool). Now, in a rough sense, the roles are reversed. There is little choice but to stay the course of slow disengagement from Iraq. The conunumdrum now, as with Saddam in 2002, is what do in Afghanistan.
A crucial difference between then and now remains, however: Having rubberstamped Cheney and Bush's squandered opportunities in both countries for 8 years, Democrats are now in charge of things, but with no opportunities for massive squandering on their watch (in THIS sector of international policy, at any rate). They will have to now show atypical courage and vision in order to not be dragged down by the overseas messes they have inherited.
June 8, 2009 7:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
"In Afghanistan, however, as with Iraq in 2002, there is now only a set of choices from amongst bad options. Bush and Cheney had nothing remotely like a plan for either place, of course, but the consequences of their incompetence are now most grievous in the country where that incompetence was least egregious."
PTroub, I read all of your posts with interest, and agree with you most of the time, but not this time.
The Taliban, which comes largely from across the Pakistan border, swept into power with the help of the Pakistani ISI and it's parent company, the CIA.
Remember the grand tour of D.C. and Houston that was set up for the Taliban leaders? When one of the leaders told an assertive female reporter that her husband must have a very hard time with her?
The U.S. supported the Taliban because it thought the Taliban could bring enough stability to enable an oil and natural gas pipeline to be built by Enron and Unocal, a pipeline that would run through Afghanistan and Pakistan to the Caspian Sea.
Trillions of dollars were at stake. And then, in 1999 or 2000, the Taliban decided to sign a pipeline deal with a Venezuelan company instead of Unocal, and the Taliban was then touted as the terrorists they always were.
The Afghan attack plans were on Bush's desk before 9/11, and we installed Karzai, a Unocal advisor, to be our puppet president.
Without 9/11, not only would Iraq never have been invaded, but U.S. interests would have lost trillions in Afghanistan as well.
Remember Cheney's secret energy task force?
Do you really think Cheney and Rumsfield did everything in their power to stop 9/11?
On an unrelated note, some of the hijackers were trained on U.S. bases, one of them was the cousin of a spy for Israel, and the pilot of the plane that hit the Pentagon was a high level Pentagon strategist the year before- and he participated in a war game scenario in which the Pentagon was hit by a plane.
Please, please watch this documentary about the Jersey Girls and their quest to get a 9/11 investigation:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3979568779414136481&ei=eqstSoaQK43mrAK7kIDiCw&q=press+for+truth&hl=en
June 8, 2009 8:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bill, I certainly appreciate your various comments, and agree with them more often than not.
But, where is the beef here? I do not take issue with anything you have written above, and do not see that it is fundamentally inconsistent with any of my observations either. I have not looked at the 1 hour and 24 minute video you linked to. If there is a 5 minute greatest hits version, or short written summary, I'd be willing to do so.
If your ultimate point is to argue that some kind of GW Bush conspiracy explains the 9-11-01 attacks, I'd certainly thoroughly disagree because I have seen no related evidence over the past 7 3/4 years that cannot be more readily explained by the sheer incompetence of the administration which Nobel Peace laureate Jimmy Carter has called the "worst in history." But this is all material for another place and time, not germane to the issue on this page: Were the U.S. invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq "wars of choice" or "wars of necessity" or (my view) were both chosen foreign distractions but nonetheless different from each other in important though shifting ways?
June 9, 2009 6:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
The United States must do what it can to build a reasonably stable Iraq . . . .
Does that mean that a "war of choice" is now a "war of necessity"?
Why not let the Iraqis sort things out the way the Lebanese, the Bosnians, the Iranians and a whole host of other peoples have sorted things out in the past?
June 8, 2009 7:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you, Ellen. Great point.
And... we really shouldn't compound the blunder of the war with seeing it through to the bitter end. We can probably leave now and let the Iraqis become what they will.
June 8, 2009 8:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ellen's point, exactly. What Haas says is a retroactive justification for unjustifiable action.
June 9, 2009 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Why not let the Iraqis sort things out the way the Lebanese, the Bosnians, the Iranians and a whole host of other peoples have sorted things out in the past?"
1) Smashed pottery and smashers' ownership thereof
2) Blowback, as frequently manifested in many foreign climes and times
Such laissez-faire "sorting out" in Iraq included allowing Saddam to practice mass murder by poison gas, take over Kuwait and commit eco-cide with its oil, and starve Iraq's children under the oil-for-bribes scheme.
Left-alone "sorting out" during the Yugoslavia break up of 1991-95 left whole Bosnian villages mass-murdered.
Leaving Iran "alone," after first installing the Shah by CIA coup in 1953 and supporting him blindly a good ten years after he had earned the hatred of most of his people, since produced:
a) An entire U.S. embassy held hostage for over a year.
b) A war that cost a million lives, and which left Saddam Hussein the winner.
c) Nuclear programs in Iraq and now Iran.
Multiple entire generations of "left-leaning" Americans are learning with excruciating slowness that the 1960s-70s Vietnam War experience (unilateral U.S. withdrawal being inevitably the only sensible option) is NOT - N.O.T. !! - a viable analogy for most other places and times. Clearly, a whole lot of learning remains ahead.
June 9, 2009 11:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
The Pottery Barn rule has always seemed to me to be completely disingenuous as a principle of foreign policy. Can you really claim to "own" a country simply by destroying it?
June 10, 2009 11:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
If the Pottery Barn rule seems "completely disingenuous" to you, this is probably because you appear to have completely misunderstood it. It is in no way a "claim of ownership". Rather, it is a simple 1st grade principle: if you make a mess, you are responsible for helping to clean it up. It applies in this case to the Democratic Party, a good half of which in Congress voted in towering cowardice in 2002 to enable the Iraq fiasco in the first place, and then massively and idiotically failed to EVER lift a finger against Cheney and Bush on Iraq even after it gained Senate and House majorities in 2006.
June 10, 2009 2:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ellen,
don't you realize that our troops must stay there today (Tuesday) to honor those that have fallen on Monday; and we must stay on Wednesday to honor those that have fallen on Tuesday; and on Thursday we must stay to honor those that have fallen on Wednesday; and on Fri........
If we do not follow this reasoning then all our troops will have died in vain.
June 9, 2009 1:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Er.......Lebanon does not belong on any list of countries that has been allowed to sort things out for themselves.
We and our democracy-luvin buds the Saudis interfered with the latest elections to the best of our abililties.
June 9, 2009 7:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
1975-1990(Taif Agreement) -- 15 years and finally, exhaustion took over.
June 9, 2009 10:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
A postscript regarding the tangential but raised issue of the 1991 Gulf War (an actual war, albeit brief, unlike the Orwellian "war" in Iraq since 2003):
There was, of course, a choice in 1991, and it was the subject of a spirited televised debate in the Congress. It is not, however, clear that deciding against using military force to liberate Kuwait would have been the wiser choice; indeed the preponderance of evidence since then suggests otherwise.
What is much clearer, though, is that to oppose the carefully planned, multilateral, UN-sanctioned limited collective security action of 1991, and to then support the unilateral internationally condemned pre-emptive mad rush to unplanned, blunder-ridden nation-building in 2002-03 constitutes one of the most asinine inconsistencies of all time. Democrats who supported John Kerry in 2004 and were surprised by his loss in the presidential election ought not to have been.
June 8, 2009 8:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
The 91 war isn't tangential. The author is arguing that it was a necessary war while 2003 was not. I don't buy that argument at all. But the two wars are inextricably linked. They were both wrong and one was just the inevitable result of the first error.
June 8, 2009 8:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
"The author is arguing that [the "91 war"] was a necessary war..."
Where on this page does he do so?
Sure, it connects, as all tangents do (and it may be directly -not tangentially- addressed in his book, which thank you very much I do NOT intend to read, being only roughly the 188th insider's view, albeit perhaps much better than the run of that overworked mill), but the issue here is Afghan '01 and Iraq '03.
The whole 'war of necessity bad, war of choice, good' paradigm strikes me as rather a silly distraction. Two more tangents will illustrate my point: The American war for independence was a war of choice, but does anyone now think the signers of the Declaration should have apologized to George III instead, or even accepted the Carlisle commission's offer, in the wake of Saratoga a year later, of a return to the ante-bellum status quo? On the other hand, for a southern plantation owner in 1861, it was a necessity to fight the Civil War in order to save the long term future of his way of life. But, by any modern civilized standard, was that way of life even worth saving, let alone costing more American lives than most other wars put together in the dubious effort to maintain plantation slavery?
June 9, 2009 7:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wewll, he says: "I argue in the book that the first Iraq war was a war of necessity while the second was a war of choice..."
So he's clearly saying that the 91 Gulf War was something we had to do.
I think that when most of us think "war of necessity" we mean a war that prevents a hostile power from attacking us. We mean clear cut self defense. As you say, not all wars of necesity are good. A southerner might well have said "That Lincoln guy is attacking us." They had 2 choices:
fight or surrender. It's too bad they chose to fight.
So yeah, I see what you're saying about it being a silly argument but it's the argument he's brought us.
June 9, 2009 8:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
I see what you're saying about it being a silly argument but it's the argument he's brought us.
Whether it is "silly" or not, not really sure, but in a post below I wonder why he isn't using the well-established term "just war" to distinguish between the 91 and 03 wars. Is it too politically loaded?
June 9, 2009 8:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Okay, destor, you are right. It IS in the page, so it's more than tangential. Thanks for scouring the text more carefully than I did. I stand by my other arguments, including what I see as the extremely profound differences between '91 and '03 DESPITE both resulting from the choices, not the imposed necessities, of Bush presidents wanting to use offensive military force against Saddam, who might have been knocked aside in the '80s war with Iran when the first Bush was VP, had his administration not propped up the Iraqi dictator.
June 9, 2009 9:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Call it what it is:
An unnecessary war of aggression against the only secular regime in the Middle East.
June 8, 2009 10:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jordan? Egypt?
June 10, 2009 11:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
June 8, 2009 11:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I argue in the book that the first Iraq war was a war of necessity while the second was a war of choice.
A revealing choice of formulation.
I would go for distinguishing between a just war and an illegal war of aggression, but that's just me with my quaint admiration for the UN founders who saw the world this way too.
I understand that, literally, anyone has a choice to fight any particular war. But surely the issue at hand is actually whether the choice to wage war is lawful in the circumstances. (And if it isn't lawful, what are/should be the consequences?)
As to the continuing occupations in Afghanistan and Iraq, this does not neatly sit under the [just-illegal] choice-necessity war framework. We are in both countries in part on the invitation of the local government (that the government is propped up through our presence makes this a nice circular argument, and bears an obvious resemblance to Soviet policy in Eastern Europe), so I would be quite hesitant to classify these as wars of choice. They are a lot of other things, not least a hotly debated policy choice, but they don't very well fit the definition of a war.
So I guess my questions are these. How do the influential DC policy forums define the type of "war" being fought by troops in Afghanistan and Iraq? And does the concept of a just war exist in the DC policy lexicon?
June 9, 2009 6:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Was Hitler's invasion of Poland a "war of choice"? If so how does it morally differ from W's invasion of Iraq?
June 9, 2009 6:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Distinguishing between these wars on the basis of necessity or freedom confounds the matter rather than provides the knife that will cut the Gordian knot. Deciding whether a war is a response to an immanent danger is job of strategic understanding and the value of intelligence pointing to an immanent threat.
Now Mr. Haass went against the neo-conservatives' understanding of strategy in the Bush II regime when he encouraged negotiating with Iran. Mr Haass also opposed the neo-cons in the Bush I regime who wanted to blow past the prudence of Powell and company. These stances do not address how the "failure of intelligence" has played such a large role in these wars. The role of the neo-conservatives in this legacy of failure cannot be separated from the legacy of Bush I because they were brought together and made into a powerful political force under the first Bush.
June 9, 2009 8:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
The US State Department motto: Diplomacy In Action
Actually, in your case, it was illegal war planners in action. Criminals, actually.
The UN Charter, a US law (excerpts):
Article 1
The Purposes of the United Nations are:
1. To maintain international peace and security, and to that end: to take effective collective measures for the prevention and removal of threats to the peace, and for the suppression of acts of aggression or other breaches of the peace, and to bring about by peaceful means, and in conformity with the principles of justice and international law, adjustment or settlement of international disputes or situations which might lead to a breach of the peace;
Article 2
The Organization and its Members, in pursuit of the Purposes stated in Article 1, shall act in accordance with the following Principles.
1. The Organization is based on the principle of the sovereign equality of all its Members.
2. All Members, in order to ensure to all of them the rights and benefits resulting from membership, shall fulfill in good faith the obligations assumed by them in accordance with the present Charter.
3. All Members shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security, and justice, are not endangered.
4. All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.
June 9, 2009 9:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
In 1941 Japan attacked us and then Germany declared war on us, so I think we all agree that WWII was not a war of choice.
So, what about what ensued;
Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, Desert Storm, Bosnia, Afghanistan, Iraq.
Compared to the reasons for WWII, all that ensued seemed to be wars of choice.
June 9, 2009 12:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
From Hitler's point of view - not the US's, invading Poland was a war of choice.
June 9, 2009 4:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Richard Haass says:
Many people said Saddam was a threat to the U S but I have yet to see any clear cut evidence to prove that assertion.
June 9, 2009 1:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Threat" = "not subject to control."
Apply to every country that doesn't take its marching orders from Washington. They are all "extreme," "rogue," or "illegitimate" states.
June 9, 2009 4:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
mythbuster said:
heh heh, excellent observation :-)
June 9, 2009 5:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
As I recount in the book, I was against this war, believing that it would be much more difficult than its advocates predicted and that it would take a large toll on U.S. foreign policy at a moment in history when the United States had a tremendous opportunity to shape the international order.
How noble and how human--to be against a war because it "might" be difficult and because it would mess up our plan of being able to tell other countries what to do without feeling too much guilt about it.
How do you people fucking sleep at night?
June 10, 2009 1:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
jaydamion asks;
At the risk of sounding banal and overly simplistic, there are all too many people in this country who have risen to positions of influence without ever being in an infantry outfit during a war.
UN ambassador Madeleine Albright asked Colin Powell, "What's the point of having this superb military you're always talking about if we can't use it?"
I wonder if Albright would have asked that question if she was on that beach with Tom Hanks in Saving Private Ryan.
Its easy to send people to war when you have no
idea what war is like.
June 10, 2009 8:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh why did I read this post? It is like a parody commentary on an over-long game of Risk at some frat house. So, President Chauncey Gardiner’s war was necessary? Which teaches us “If the roots are strong all will be well in the garden.” I prefer the analysis I heard on McNeil-Lehrer shortly after Gulf 1 offered by a psychiatrist. He opined that Gulf 1 was a soporific which is to say something that treats the symptoms of a discontent by inducing sleepiness without addressing any underlying disease. Most Americans, the psychiatrist went on to observe, lead desperately boring lives and this war gave them something to assuage their ennui. I believe it was referred to after the fact as the Baghdad Air Show and was such a hit at the box office that defense contractors cancelled that year’s edition of the military sales extravaganza that goes by a similar name. As a wise man here at TPM says “The End.”
So to continue the gardening metaphor, what might we call Gulf 2? How about a dead bush? You can bury it in fertilizer and it is still dead and probably smells worse than when you started. Or shall we try radiation and see if the promise of the nuclear age can be redeemed once and for all. I don’t mean the depleted uranium stuff, that’s for people who think inside the box. I mean the real deal. If nothing else sending Iran to ionizing hell would produce a market demand for ersatz RealPolitik like this stuff that might be large enough to solve our unemployment problem, what Robert Reich has called here at TPM “symbolic-analyst” work. In former times this was called Scholasticism. In this modern incarnation, it goes something like this. We know we are god but we are having a devil of a time demonstrating that it is rational to think so.
June 10, 2009 8:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
I've sometimes wondered if in fact Bush Pere went to war against Saddam Hussein for the exact same reason Bush Junior did - to win reelection. Bush Pere always seemed totally surprised by the speed with which Saddam Hussein was defeated in Gulf I. With such a speedy and easy victory, the US electorate was given a chance to forget all of the details of Bush Pere's glorious win and focus on his domestic policy ineptitude, resulting in his 1992 loss to Clinton. If Bush Pere's war had yielded a real battle over a real period of time, they would have been able to use the warming glow of that "victory" to fuel their reelection. Too bad for Bush Pere the victory feelings blew away like smoke in a desert sandstorm.
Bush Junior didn't forget that and knew that he needed a war to be able to even consider reelection. We know that definitively now. His domestic policies were failing, as we also now know from the job creation statistics we're shown constantly for the period 2001-2003. Unfortunately, Bush Junior didn't get the war he thought he'd get - his old man's war, nice and clean and quick. He became a war pResident alright, which enabled his slim win over Kerry in 2004 and is condemning him to historical hell. But, he needed that war just like his dad did. They were both wars of choice, from the same soulless family. God help us when JEB Bush gets coughed up on the American political scene.
June 10, 2009 8:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
I regard your political analysis as spot on. It is also almost unheard of because it contradicts the fossilized left-right dichotomy that has practically every American pundit in everlasting thrall: (a) all U.S. wars, even "wars", are a result of "Empire" versus (b) all U.S. wars are John Wayne and Rambo kicking the bad guys' asses.
Jeb Bush is not a worry. If the Democrats screw up badly enough to allow another Bush anywhere near the White House, we would have to be such utterly deep doo-doo that whether the oval office were run by Sarah Palin's nanny or my pet goat would be a minor detail.
June 10, 2009 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Still hoping that I have time to swing by for this book this week, but not sure that I'm going to make it...
Just wanted to leave a note that I look forward to reading it.
June 11, 2009 11:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Fascinating debate.
This post here is somewhat related to this topic.
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/meichenlaub/2009/06/former-cia-operations-officer.php
June 19, 2009 2:26 PM | Reply | Permalink