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Wilsonianism--or Trotskyism-Trumanism?

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In response to Tony's post, I'd like to emphasize something that John wrote:

Finally, it was really Truman and the coming of the Cold War that led to the reinvention of liberal internationalism, creating what I would call liberal internationalism 2.0. This involved a more direct role for the United States as a hegemon - working with Europe and other allies, running the system, etc. The United States found itself not just the sponsor and leading participant in a new liberal international order - it was also owner and operator of it. The vision of liberal order turned into liberal hegemony. (And today the debate is whether the United States can renegotiate its old hegemonic order and create liberal internationalism 2.5, or whether we are moving to 3.0 or something entirely new and different).

I think this gets to the heart of the matter, particularly in the case of the neocons. They are influenced more by their idealized image of Truman and the Cold War liberal internationalism of 1949-1989--John's liberal internationalism 2.0--than by Wilson in 1919 or FDR in 1945. Truman (along with Churchill), rather than Wilson or Roosevelt, is the hero of the neocons and like-minded liberal hawks--witness the Truman National Security Project.

As my friend the late John P. Diggins argued, neoconservatism needs to be understood at its origins as a kind of counter-communism, dominated by ex-Trotskyists and other anticommunist leftists and liberals who sought to fight fire with fire by using methods of propaganda pioneered, not by the rather genteel Wilson-Roosevelt internationalists, but by the Soviets and various sects of international Marxism. The very structure of the neoconservative movement, with its front groups and little magazines and committees for this or that, is based on the structure of the anti-Stalinist left in the 1940s and 1950s, which sought to neutralize the global pro-Stalinist left by copying its organizational and propaganda methods. Neocon rhetoric also owes more to the revolutionary left than to old-fashioned progressive reformers. Change "the global socialist revolution" to "the global democratic capitalist revolution" and you have the militant, ideological "democratism" of former radicals like Michael Harrington and Joshua Muravchik.

In answer to Tony, then, I think that there are diminishing returns in trying to establish Wilson's paternity in the case of the neocons, as distinct from the more truly Wilsonian liberal internationalists who found common ground with them sometimes during the Bush years. I think that neoconservatism looks less like Wilsonianism than like Trotskyism-Trumanism (something that would have appalled both Trotsky and Truman). And the post-Cold War neocon project, shared in some respects by some neoliberals, was--is?--to universalize what John calls the hegemonic Truman System of 1949 as "liberal internationalism 2.5," rather than to try to create a contemporary version of Roosevelt's System of 1945 or Wilson's System of 1919, each of which was a version of a concert of power system, with the U.S. as first among equals but not global military hegemon and market of first resort.


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I again have to wonder how useful and productive these discussions are. We have many issues to debate about how this country should conduct its foreign policy. Frankly, what does it matter what Woodrow Wilson thought about how we should conduct foreign policy? Or what Harry Truman thought? Or George Washington? Or John Adams? Or John Quincy Adams? Or William McKinley?

They are all dead. We are alive. We are free to build the world we want for ourselves and our posterity. Is it really important whose "rightful heirs" we are? Studying these figures may tell us something about how we got where we are. But it tells us nothing about what we should do now with the world we have been handed.

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The past is a very useful instruction manual. If we're smart. To the extent we've floundered the past eight years, we've forgotten the ideas and visions of many of these dead - brilliant - people.

Mr. Lind, this is one of the best posts on the discussion this week.

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Dan K,
The discussion of the past is not just about assigning blame or establishing a theory of causality to explain why what we experience now has happened. The exploration of the recent past is important because our language is bound up with it.
I am all for bringing the discussion down to the "now". But does this "now" exist as a reality independent from how we frame it and make stories about it?
Your challenge hits the mark because this sort of discussion is a kind of fiddling while Rome burns. But can we as a nation talk about this sort of thing without sorting out how we have talked about it before?

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moat, I appreciate the value of history as essential to understanding the causes of our current circumstances, and to correctly interpreting them even as they transpire.

But all of this talk of "true heirs" strikes me as a very minor side issue. The debate is over whether Bush was really acting in accordance with Wilsonian principles, or was only acting in a way which has been erroneously described as Wilsonian. How much does that matter to the moral appraisal of Bush and his foreign policy? Is Wilson some sort of divine emissary whose wisdom has been vouchsafed for us by the gods? Is Wilson the author of some sacred scrolls of commandments that we are morally bound to obey?

Are there really a lot of people who will re-evaluate their assessment of Bush's actions in a positive direction if they become convinced that he was truly following in the Wilsonian tradition? Bush's actions took place in the near and easily remembered past. We all witnessed them. People know what Bush did, in great detail, and they have formed a moral evaluation of his actions based on a front row experience of current affairs. If they disapprove of those actions, but become convinced by a historian that Woodrow Wilson truly would have acted the same way, I think the natural response would be to say, "So much the worse for Woodrow Wilson."

To respond in the opposite way would seem to be some sort of totemic ancestor worship.

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I'm with Dan. I just don't understand how someone can write a whole book to argue whether so and so deserves to be called this name or that.

You might as well argue whether Brett Favre is more like Bart Starr, Joe Namath, Terry Bradshaw or Dan Marino, and I wouldn't want to read that book either.

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An excellent post. There has been a tendency among some liberals to criticize the neo-conservatives as naive idealists with unrealistic expectations of democracy promotion. I think that's actually a naive view of the neo-conservatives. Democracy promotion, for them, has always been an instrument for the promotion of American power, an instrument to be applied with careful selectivity.

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It seems that the Neoconservatives and Liberal Internationlists are a lot like Communists were in the Soviet Union. The Neoconservatives and Liberal Internationists use an idealized version of the past whether it be the use of Wilson or Cold War triumphalism to justify their ideology or alternate reality. The Communists in the Soviet Union used the past such as the Russian Civil War and the Second World War to justify a militarized state. It seems that when dealing with Neoconservatives and Liberal Internationalists it is not enough to come up with different policies but try to change the historical myths that have developed in this country regarding the Cold War and the fall of Communism.

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Sam Tanenhaus has written pretty persuasively about the influence of former Trotskyists in the modern Republican party.

See this talk at the AEI:

http://www.aei.org/audio/100158

And this essay in the New Republic:

The story of postwar American conservatism is best understood as a continual replay of a single long-standing debate. On one side are those who have upheld the Burkean ideal of replenishing civil society by adjusting to changing conditions. On the other are those committed to a revanchist counterrevolution, the restoration of America's pre-welfare state ancien regime. And, time and again, the counterrevolutionaries have won. The result is that modern American conservatism has dedicated itself not to fortifying and replenishing civil society but rather to weakening it through a politics of civil warfare.

How did this happen? One reason is that the most intellectually sophisticated founders of postwar conservatism were in many instances ex-Marxists, who moved from left to right but remained persuaded that they were living in revolutionary times and so retained their absolutist fervor. In place of the Marxist dialectic they formulated a Manichaean politics of good and evil, still with us today, and their strategy was to build a movement based on organizing cultural antagonisms.

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=9dfd540a-3d44-4684-a333-415ef34efa5b

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The pattern you see repeated a few times now is that they glom on to someone who is "authentic", who can connect with voters, but is also intellectually malleable--better yet, anti-intellectual.

Sarah Palin seems like the reductio ad absurdum of this kind of thing:

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/the-palin-project/

Even David Frum knows it's gotten completely embarrassing:

http://www.newmajority.com/ShowScroll.aspx?ID=323a5b32-2405-4365-af87-49a36232ca63

Back in the 70's someone came up with the term "Country and Western Marxism." This seems apt...

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(I think E. J. Dionne gets one thing wrong, though, in that last link. It's not Djilas, it's James Burnham who is the influence.)

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Michael Harrington does not fit in the neocon pantheon where you have tried to place him.


Harrington became a widely read intellectual and political writer. He would frequently debate noted conservatives but would also clash with the younger radicals in the New Left movements. He was present at the 1962 SDS conference that led to the creation of the Port Huron Statement, where he argued that the final draft was insufficiently anti-Communist. Arthur M. Schlesinger, Sr. referred to Harrington as the "only responsible radical" in America, a somewhat dubious distinction among those on the political left. His high profile landed him on the master list of Nixon political opponents.


By early 1970s Shachtman's anti-Communism had become a hawkish Cold War liberalism. Shachtman and the governing faction of the Socialist Party effectively supported the Vietnam War and changed the organization's name to Social Democrats, USA. In protest Harrington led a number of Norman Thomas-era Socialists, younger activists and ex-Shachtmanites into the Democratic Socialist Organizing Committee.

Harrington, who died in 1989, would have been appalled by the entire neocon phenomenon.

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The renewal is upon us, the paradigm is shifting (is a link), the co-creators are slowly beginning to reawaken from their slumber to begin their task of creating order out of chaos.

Therefore, prepare your hearts for the many changes ahead, as the death of The Old World Order will be violent.

Namasté,

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