Democratic Peace Theory
Saskia Sassen objects to seeing Bush as a legitimate descendant of Wilson by remarking on the vastly different circumstances of the two presidencies, and I agree. But I do think Wilson "intuited" democratic peace theory and this perhaps as early as 1901 and certainly when he was thinking of the Pan American Union and the Covenant of the League between 1915 and 1919. Wilson thought regime type mattered enormously--thus he insisted on the Kaiser's abdication in 1918, and had a "non-recognition doctrine" of Latin American governments that came to power by military means.. Now obviously Wilson was not as sophisticated in his argument as, say, Bruce Russett is, but his intuitive sense was clearly in exactly the sense that the democratic peace crowd moved in the 1990s.
As for doing in democratizing regimes in Guatemala, Iran, and the Dominican Republic, the Wilsonian argument, and probably that of democratic peace theory, is that they were immature, unstable, and getting support from local communist movements. Hence they could not be trusted in dangerous times. I agree with Sassen's implicit criticism of American imperialism, but I think it can nonetheless be squared with liberal internationalist thought even if it requires some stretching.
While I certainly agree with Charles Kupchan that a heavy dose of realism needs to be downed by anyone with Wilsonian ambitions, I'm less sure about 9/11 having been indispensable for the invasion of Iraq to have occurred. If anyone reading this is still here when the Bush archives are finally opened in 2053 (or could there be an earlier date with Freedom of Information), I suspect you will find lots of activity in high neoconservative circles to take out Saddam well before 9/11. Could it be they would have suggested a Bay of Pigs type scenario as Wolfowitz did in Senate testimony in 1998, but a Bay of Pigs that succeeded the second time around? Liberals, too, were on a roll after the relatively easy dispatch of Milosevic in 1999. There was a mood afoot in the land to be tough after the 2000 election, and while Kupchan may be correct it would never have led to a full scale invasion of Iraq, who knows what other scenarios were being devised....





















How could anyone possibly know what Wilson "intuited" in 1901 or know with any degree of certainty what he "intuited" at any time after that? Damned nonsense.
May 21, 2009 10:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Liberal Internationlists would have still supported the invasion of Iraq even if there was no 9-11. Liberal Internationalism like Neo-Conservatism is basically what Andrew Bacevcich considers to be a "national security ideology," whose sole purpose to support any type of military action. As Bacevich writes on page 77 in his "The Limits of Power:"
"The ideology of national secuity does not serve as an operational checklist. It imposes no specific obligations. It functions the way ideology so often does-not to divine truth or even to make sense of things, but to provide a highly elastic rationale for action..."
So therefore even if there was no terrorists attacks on 9-11, I'm sure that the Liberal Internationalists would have supported any excuse by the Bush administration when it came to invading Iraq. As in interesting side note Andrew Bacevich will speaking on Thursday, May 28 in Denver at the Tattered Cover in Historic LoDo at 7:30 p.m. For any TPM members who are in and happened to be in Denver they should really see him. Since I live in Denver, I will definitely be at this event.
May 21, 2009 10:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Liberal internationalism is like neoconservatism - deeply sociopathic.
May 21, 2009 11:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Another Power-Pointer™ at work, it looks like, marching boldly down the abstract path of A. de Tocqueville and W. von Wilson!
If that path happens to make your flesh creep the same way it makes mine, perhaps the thing for us to do is reflect what excellent historical credentials Liberal Imperialism has. Almost as good as Enlightened Despotism's credentials were.
Indeed, on a good day with the wind behind her, the PowerPointer™ could make out that Liberal Imperialism pretty well was Enlightened Despotism -- which, considering the resonance set up in the mind of the ignorant lay sheep by clashing 'despotism' off 'liberal' at such close range, is a really impressive stretching-exercise for athletes of sophistry.
(( "Ah, but can she do it six times before breakfast?", he wondered, referring to workout advice that a certain personal trainer once offered Miss Alice. ))
Happy days.
May 22, 2009 4:46 AM | Reply | Permalink