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Time to Temper Wilsonianism with a Strong Dose of Realism

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I will respectfully sidestep the issue of whether Bush or liberal internationalists are the legitimate inheritors of Wilsonianism and instead reflect on a few of the implications of this rich debate for contemporary issues.

First, it is important to keep in mind that the invasion of Iraq would not have occurred were it not for the attacks of September 11. Neither neoconservatives nor liberal interventionists would have been able to take this country to war in Iraq were it not for the atmosphere of fear and anger that persisted through the balance of Bush's first term. In that sense, the war is not a good test case of Wilsonianism, liberal internationalism, or any other tradition in US foreign policy. The country was effectively in a state of shock - precisely why so many reasonable people of different political persuasion rallied behind a war that was as flawed in conception as it was in implementation.

Second, the key issue today is what role Wilsonianism should play in shaping U.S. foreign policy - in terms of both its focus on democracy promotion and its emphasis on liberal multilateralism. On both fronts, Wilsonian instincts need to be tempered with a strong dose of realism. It would be nice if the world were populated only by democracies (although not as nice as democratic peace theorists would have it). And perhaps we will get there one day. But in the meantime, the United States should be guided by the pragmatic realization that many of today's problems can be solved only by steady cooperation with many of the world non-democracies. We should by no means condone backsliding on democracy in Russia. But let's get on with securing Russian cooperation on arms control, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iran. Let's take a rest from ideological zealotry for now.

As for liberal internationalism, best to keep in mind that Wilson overreached - and was left empty-handed. Had he scaled back his aspirations for the League of Nations and compromised with Republicans on its design, he may well have been able to win ratification. The lesson for today is again one of pragmatism. Rather than overreach and aspire toward an institutionalized, rule-based, heavy-duty multilateral order, let's be
guided by the problems we face and the countries we need to work with to fix them. As Franklin Roosevelt learned in studying Wilson's mistakes, better to pursue workable minimums, not impossible maximums.


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I believe that we were already in a state of war with Iraq at the time of 9/11. We had been bombing them and blockading them for years, since the gulf war (1991). There were already a great many people in government and the military who wanted to take out Saddam Hussein. The Neocons and Israel were intent on taking him out also because he was such a strong supporter of the Palestinians. There were already Neocom plans to initiate an invasion of Iraq before they helped GW Bush to win the presidency in 2000. 9/11 was just too good of an opportunity to pass up for finishing Saddam.

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"the invasion of Iraq would not have occurred were it not for the attacks of September 11"

Well it would have played out differently but it is clear that at least several people in the Bush Admin. had it out for Saddam long before then, incl. Bush himself. I agree that the atmosphere after 9/11 was more conducive to taking military action. But PNAC was clearly interested in using military muscle, so we should consider whether some other cooked up excuses would have been used, absent 9/11. Or even the same excuses with slightly different emphases...

The "philosophy" of war as a handy tool was present before 9/11. I won't try to claim that PNAC represented neo-Wilsonian thought to some extent, but I cannot say it did not.


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We should by no means condone* backsliding on democracy in Russia.

Absolutely not! We should most definitely . . . er . . . er. Hmm. What should we do?

I know! We should do the opposite of "condone."

* condone: excuse or make allowances for; be lenient with

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That is funny Ellen. But you point out the obvious, these craze balls want us to go to war against Russia if they do not behave in ways that we democrats (lower case) do not approve.

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"State of shock" for a few days or weeks in Fall 2001 explains the cockamamie rush to blunder into unplanned regime change in Iraq in Spring of 2003? Nonsense. And if you read John Milton Cooper on Woodrow Wilson, you cannot help but appreciate how very different the world was 90 years ago. 9-11 was a pimple on a sick body. America was "sleep-walking through history" in 2002 and still is today.

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Should we still assume that Cheney and his followers at the Pentagon did everything he could to stop 9/11?

Was Wilson influenced by anything other than idealism in creating the Fed and League of Nations?
What about the international robber barons who put him in power? Were they without influence on these matters?

"Strong dose of realism?"

As opposed to what?


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I would like to take this discussion in a different direction. A retreat to realism isn’t an adequate response to the ravages of the Bush era, or the best response to the mistakes of Wilsonian nationalism and exceptionalism. We need to take a longer view to understand what has gone wrong with the left-liberal movement in this country. Here is my litany:

1. Once upon a time there were internationalists in America – lots of them. Some were socialists; some weren’t. But they were everywhere. They formed organizations. They proclaimed their internationalism loudly. They dreamed of world governments, global communities and a variety of starry-eyed but noble realizations of global unity.

{Definition I: A genuine internationalist is a person who believes that our commitment to the well-being of the broad human community, the totality of humanity, should supersede our obligations to our nation, or state and the smaller communities of human beings of which we are a part{

{Definition II: A nationalist, on the other hand, is a person who believes our obligations to our nation or country should supersede both our obligations to the smaller sub-national communities of which we are a part and our obligations to the well-being of broader humanity.}

2. Internationalists typically didn’t feel guilty about their internationalism. Every self-respecting liberal or leftist intellectual regarded internationalism as the natural and normal philosophy of human engagement among educated and enlightened people. Nationalism was viewed as an outlook characterizing unenlightened, reactionary and superstitious provincials, including fascists.

3. Internationalists sensibly recognized that reasonable and healthy forms of national citizenship were compatible with internationalism: just as I can be a perfectly good and respectable citizen of my State of New Hampshire while recognizing that my obligation to the United States supersedes my obligation to New Hampshire, so I can be a perfectly good and respectable citizen of the United States while recognizing that my obligation to humanity supersedes my obligation to the United States.

{Clarification I: Being an internationalist doesn’t mean believing one is a citizen of the world. One can only be a citizen of a republic. It might be nice if there were a world republic, but there isn’t one. So, at this point one cannot be a citizen of the world. Nevertheless, one can recognize that one has a supreme obligation to humanity that doesn’t consist in an obligation flowing from citizenship. It flows from the common-sense observation that the good of the many is more important than the good of the few.}

{Clarification II: Being and internationalist doesn’t mean hating one’s country. I have abundant affection for New Hampshire while believing that my obligation to the United States supersedes my obligation to New Hampshire. In the same way, one can have abundant affection for the United States while recognizing that one’s obligation to humanity supersedes one’s obligation to the United States.}

4. Nationalism was killed off by a rightist terror campaign: Several decades of Hoover, red scares, purges, McCarthyism, black lists, Cold War, persecutions, John Birchers, right-wing militias accumulating weapons arsenals, thundering preachers and railing pundits served to cow and intimidate internationalists, give them a guilty and paranoid conscience and drive internationalism underground. What is left now is a hollow, timid, so-called “internationalism” that is really just a form of nationalism with a slightly less selfish outlook, and that is constantly looking back over its shoulder with hurried steps, worried about rightist persecutors in the shadows.

5. Nationalism won in America. But it didn’t win by reason. It won by fear and terror. The melancholy descendants of the internationalist forbears of the left are a knee-knocking and intimidated lot. We were licked by cowardly brutes using the oldest of means: sheer physical intimidation.

6. It is an utter tragedy that the best and brightest Americans have for some time now been trained to confine their aspirations inside the crabbed and tortured outlook of nationalism. Liberals try to compete with rightists by offering up unconvincing, bad faith, internally conflicted versions of uber-patriotic pap, when they should recover and embrace their natural internationalist instincts, and proclaim them unapologetically.

7. The true spirit of internationalism was memorably expressed in the Russell-Einstein Manifesto in 1955:

There lies before us, if we choose, continual progress in happiness, knowledge, and wisdom. Shall we, instead, choose death, because we cannot forget our quarrels? We appeal as human beings to human beings: Remember your humanity, and forget the rest. If you can do so, the way lies open to a new Paradise; if you cannot, there lies before you the risk of universal death.

Remember your humanity, and forget the rest! Who today would be so bold? What establishment Washingtonian would dare suggest that the human race is more important than the American race?

8. You may not be attracted to genuine internationalism. Fine. But if you are attracted to genuine internationalism, but are thinking such things as:

“Oooh, that’s scary; let’s keep it down, because …

… The conservatives won’t like it;
… The conservatives will say we are traitors;
… The conservatives will persecute us;
… The conservatives will pipe-bomb us, or shoot
us, or fry us like the Rosenbergs;
… The conservatives will run election campaigns
against us, call us names, and win;
… The conservatives will try to put us in jail.”

Then you have been licked by bullies. Your noble cerebral cortex has been sat upon and squashed by the lizard-brained Glenn Beck within.

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Your comment is much better than the original post.

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Thanks. friend.

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Once my girlfriend told someone she was a citizen of the world. Her friend said she wasn't aware that you could do that and asked how she could become a World Citizen. Good question that.

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Point 4 contains an error. The first sentence should have read:

4. Internationalism was killed off by a rightist terror campaign.

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"Internationalism was killed off by a rightist terror campaign."

Yes--it was replaced--as something establishment types would advocate publicly (much has been done to advance a worthy internationalism that doesn't get a lot of attention), that is--by militarism.

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First, it is important to keep in mind that the invasion of Iraq would not have occurred were it not for the attacks of September 11. Neither neoconservatives nor liberal interventionists would have been able to take this country to war in Iraq were it not for the atmosphere of fear and anger that persisted through the balance of Bush's first term.

That is so true. Osama Bin Laden will have to be one of histories greatest terrororist. He provoked the world's greatest power into such a self destructive action. He suceeded in getting both the right (the neocons) and the left (the Wilsonians) into attacking Iraq thereby weakoning American military power.

I think the lesson we should take from this is that both the neocons and the liberal interventionist should be purged from positions of power. As awfull as 911 was, it was not an excuse to go into a perpetual war mode. Let us hope that Obama has the good sense to not listen to Slaughter and her 'humanitarian ' warriors. (Given that the neocons have been castrated for the time being).

In short, it is time to sweep Wilson into the dust bin of history.

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I think that when a country becomes terminally dumb things like Osama and Iraq follow naturally.

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That is certainly a more concise way of saying my point.

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Although the Obama administration is moving towards Rooseveltian internationalism it will be hard for those in the foreign policy establishment to adapt to the new surroundings. From about 1990 till 2008 a whole generation of future foreign policy leaders have been inundatd with the American triumphalism about the Cold War and War II. Some of the brightest students attended not only the Princeton Project but the Studies in Grand Strategy at Yale which is taught by John Gaddis and Charles Hill, who basically believe that the United States ahould impose its will upon the rest of the world. Former students of the Princeton Project and Grand Strategy then go into the mainstream media and the various think tanks. Due to this high percentage of Wilsonians in the foreign policy establishment, the ideology of Wilsonianism and American exceptionalism may not be over.

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I have a rather contrarian take on Wilson (I rate him somewhere up there with Genghis Kahn) which can be seen at TPM HERE

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This nation is a shining beacon on the hill to the extent we are a democracy of laws that respect and protect individual civil liberties. The idea that either we sally forth seeking foreign dragons to slay, or we've stamped ourselves as contemptible isolationists, is not only ridiculous but catastrophic, as the past few years have shown. Surprise! We can maintain international presence without guns in our hands. Our best, most sophisticated foreign policy initiative in the last 50 years? Establishment of the Peace Corps. Besides, given the infamies of the past decade, what noble vision are we emplacing on our unfortunate international wards? Waterboarding?

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