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Mulling Over Bush as Wilson's Heir

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(Let me say that I am just responding to the posted text -not to the book--in the spirit of creating a common platform for dialogue since many may not have read the book).

This is a provocative post. The notion that Bush might be the heir of Woodrow Wilson's internationalism is, at first reading, almost preposterous. But it is getting me to mull this over.

For now, just two points.

1. There is a difference between the fact that "....Bush also wrapped himself in the rhetoric of Woodrow Wilson and the Cold War liberalism of Truman and Kennedy" and Tony Smith' s argument that "the Bush administration and the neo-conservative architects of the Iraq war were the natural heirs of the Wilsonian tradition." Political leaders need framings that have a grand, even transhistorical character --invoking WW's internationalism may be simply that. I do find problematic the notion of "natural heir" as explanation: at the limit it can suggest that Bush found himself confronting a geopolitical condition with similar/equivalent challenges (even though their contents may have been quite different) to those of Wilson; in this context, Wilsonian thinking can be the "natural" choice. Maybe Tony Smith could clarify a bit how exactly he understands the "natural" in "natural heir."

2. One could argue that much of American internationalism even when wrapped in the Wilsonian legacy seems to have coexisted with a paralell underground history of deposing and even assassinating foreign leaders that were seen as undesirable by whoever had the power to give the orders. Arbenz in Guatemala and Bosch in the Dominican Republic, both elected through liberal democratic processes, were deposed by the US -their policies for land redistribution and for a bit of a welfare state were just a bit too liberal? So was the president of Iran, a moderate and secular leader, who was then followed by the not so liberal Emperor who in turn contributed to the success of the Iranian revolution and the implementation of the current regime. We could add to this list the support of the US for the emergent Taliban when the Russians occupied Afghanistan (or tried to), and so many other cases where the US did much to support the tyrant and undermine the liberal democratic opposition. Where does this combination of liberal internationalism and behind the scenes support for dubious regimes, leave us on Wilsonian internationalism?

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Saskia Sassen is the Robert S. Lynd Professor of Sociology and Member, The Committee on Global Thought, Columbia University. Her website is www.columbia.edu/~sjs2/. Her latest books is Territory, Authority, Rights: From Medieval to Global Assemblages ( Princeton University Press 2008). She blogs the financial crisis for HuffingtonPost.com and writes regularly for OpenDemocracy.net.


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Wilson's heroic reputation is not universal.
Quite a few people think that his leading the USA into WWI was the direct cause of the rise of Adolph Hitler and with him the Holocaust and most of the problems we have today in the Middle East. I'll explain.

By 1917, when America entered the war, the European powers were bled white, they had fought to a draw. If America had not entered the war, the exhausted combatants would have finally negotiated peace. In this way the collapse of Germany and the rise of someone so improbable as Hitler to power could have been avoided and the collapse of the Turkish empire could have been managed differently. If Turkey had kept control of Palestine even a ten or twenty years more the Balfour Declaration would have been meaningless. No Holocaust plus no Israel = peace in the Middle East.

So, in fact, the comparison of Wilson to Bush is quite apt: the same sanctimonious meddling in other people's business leading to disasters* with unimaginable blow back.

*Just a footnote: The American soldiers that Wilson sent to Europe also carried the flu, which in the filthy trenches of the Western Front, morphed into the epidemic that killed over 40,000,000 people around the world. Seen in this light Wilson ranks up there with Genghis Kahn, who BTW is still a local hero in Mongolia.

So "Yankee go home" is probably the best advice any people have ever been given.

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Wilson's heroic reputation is not universal.

It never was:

A truly devastating piece of criticism is to be found in The Story of a Style, by Dr. William Bayard Hale. The style is that of poor Woodrow, and Dr. Hale operates upon it with machetes, hand grenades and lengths of gas-pipe. He is one peculiarly equipped for the business, for he was at one time high in the literary and philosophical confidence of the late Messiah, and learned to imitate the gaudy jargon of the master with great skill--so perfectly, indeed, that he was delegated to write one of the Woodrovian books, to wit, The New Freedom, once a favorite text of New Republic Liberals, deserving Democrats, and the tender-minded public in general. But in the end he revolted against both the new Euphuism and its eminent pa, and now he tackles both with considerable ferocity, and, it must be added, vast effect. His analysis of the whole Wilsonian buncombe, in fact, is downright cruel; when he finishes with it, not even a Georgia postmaster or a Palmer agent provocateur could possibly believe in it. He shows its ideational hollowness, its ludicrous strutting and bombast, its heavy dependence upon greasy and meaningless words, its frequent descent to mere sound and fury, signifying nothing. In particular, he devotes himself to a merciless study of what, after all, must remain the fallen Moses’s chief contribution to both history and beautiful letters, viz., his biography of George Washington. I have often, in the past, called attention to the incredible imbecility of this work. It is an almost inexhaustible mine of bad writing, faulty generalizing, childish pussy-footing, ludicrous posturing, and naive stupidity. To find a match for it one must try to imagine a biography of the Duke of Wellington by his barber. Well, Hale spreads it out on his operating table, sharpens his snickersnee upon his boot-leg, and proceeds to so harsh an anatomizing that it nearly makes me sympathize with the author. Not many of us--writers, and hence vain and artificial fellows--could undergo so relentless an examination without damage. But not many of us, I believe, would suffer quite so horribly as Woodrow. The book is a mass of puerile affectations, and as Hale unveils one after the other he performs a sound service for American scholarship and American letters.I say that this book is cruel, but I must add that his laparotomies are carried on with every decorum--.... &c. &c.

Happy days.

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I have a very different view of the bush endeavors and it certainly is not a favorable one:

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/therap/2009/05/torture-a-moral-and-psychic-tr.php

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Professor Sasskia has a very impressive bio, and its 100% free of typos, unlike the blog itself.

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Sorry, "it's" 100% free of typos.

See how easy that is?

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We know that the Bush administration's attraction to internationalist ideals was minimal and opportunistic, to say the least. They began their administration by backing out of a variety of international deals, and showed a general contempt for international law, international consensus, "permission slips" and multilateralism throughout.

We also know that some liberals who were much more sincerely attracted to various kinds of internationalist ideals supported the Iraq War, in some cases for reasons that could be seen as sincere expressions of their internationalism.

Woodrow Wilson, himelf? He's long dead. I don't really see how the question, "What would Woodrow do?" is particularly germane, pressing or of more than academic interest. If we want to know what caused the Iraq war, who supported it, and for what reasons, that is an empirical historical question that one can attempt to answer mainly by looking at the historical record of events from the past eight years. The same is true for the question, "What happened in Iraq and elsewhere following the US invasion of Iraq?"

And if we want to debate which actions were right and which wrong, which defensible and which indefensible, which reasonable and which unreasonable, those are moral and political question we can ponder among ourselves and our contemporaries, and I doubt considerations bearing on Woodrow Wilson would play any significant role. Any person with a normal conscience and a command of the facts can discuss this issue without first obtaining and oracular consultation with Woodrow Wilson's ghost.

By the way, no matter how often chastened liberal foreign policy types come forward wearing sackcloth, chanting "mea culpa" and clawing at their breats, I'm going to have a hard time taking them seriously so long as they continue to refer to the Iraq War mainly as a "US foreign policy disaster" or a "US foreign policy blunder". This suggests to me that they still don't get it; that they are still lost in abstract and inhumane ivory tower musings detached from the concrete effects of actions on human beings; and that they are disturbingly obsessed with the ways in which the Iraq war was or was not good for us.

It's like the captured serial killer who appears initially to be expressing remorse, but is in fact only regretting the ways in which his trail of murders has affected him personally: "Yes, that Tuscon episode was a disaster. Three rapes and murders in one weekend left too hot a trail and ultimately lead to my capture. What a mistake that was. What a blunder! And it has destroyed my reputation! I would classify the Tuscon killings as my most serious interpersonal policy error in years."

Of course, we easily recognize this type of talk as bizarre and psychopathic. But when it comes to foreign policy, we treat the psychopathic as normal.

The Iraq War was an atrocity, a wretched crime and an enduring humanitarian disaster whose hideous human toll of death, injury, loss, barbaric destruction, immiseration and refugee flight is still being felt. Who can contemplate this spectacle and wonder only how much the carnage and butchery has "damaged the US position in the world"?

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I have done a video on Wilson Worship that you can see HERE

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