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We're going to be rolling out a front page redesign this week at TPM. If you'd like to take a look, we'd love your feedback. Many of the changes aren't immediately visible on the front end. They involve greater flexibility we have to format the front page news in different ways depending on the news of the day -- bigger features, smaller features, depending on what the news of the moment is, more wires, fewer, etc.. But one major change is that TPMCafe contributor posts and TPMCafe reader posts will have their own permanent section on the front page. (Scroll down under the news section on the right side.) The reader posts will be selected based on the number of 'recommends' over a given period of time.

Take a look. Let us know what you think.


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The redesign looks great. It's been awhile since I've scrolled down past the TPM News Wire on the front page. The new layout is a lot more reader friendly, and it's cool that you're giving the reader posts a little exposure.

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Love it! It's a great layout. And thanks for adding the Cafe's top recommended posts to your front page. That's great of you to do, and an honor to us Cafe members. Thanks so much.

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Just as long as it WORKS I don't care. I'm STILL not completely recovered from the last "face lift". If I try to log in to post after an absence of more than a few days, I have to choose WHICH sTiVo user id and password I am. Uh, isn't there only supposed to be one? And why, after I pick the correct one, must I first pop into the "update user profile" page, where I must then click "back to the original page".

Your web crew last time was inexperienced and amateurish. If it's the same crew, let's hope they've learned a thing or two. If it's not, let's hope they're better.

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i thought about seconding your comment, but then thought 'eh, why bother...'

then of course when i decide to reply to another comment down thread i have to go through all the movable re-login rigamarole.

click reply... nothing happens.

oh, must not be signed in anymore...

scroll all the way down the page and click sign in...

get sent to movable type login interface...

click return to original page... get sent to tpmcafe MAIN page...

scroll down to find the post/thread i had been in...

scroll down to find the comment i originally wanted to reply to (if i can even remember at this point).

seriously, if this is how the site is supposed to work, it is stupid. but if this isn't how the site is supposed to work then it is broken and has never been fixed. (and yeah, i'm sure i could adjust some browser settings and never delete certain private data in my browser, but i shouldn't have to just to interact with the site seemlessly.)

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I can't argue with increased visibility for Reader Voices.
But Josh, since you're fixing things, why not make those top-line links to Muckraker, TPMDC, etc., WAY more prominent and obvious?
I'd bet many first-time visitors browse the front page and go away without ever realizing those subsections of the site even exist.
Art-department types tend to give far too much weight to cleanness of design over ease of use. Tell them to stuff it.

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One thing about featuring popular and well-argued Reader Voices: they needn't vanish automatically after 24 hours as at present.
In fact, I would use the number of recommendations only as a rough guide to what makes the featured list, and give more weight to what posits the most interesting ideas and stimulates the most interesting discussions.
More work for you and your staff, I concede, but better for the site.

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Yeah, it is great, but I am addicted. How do I resume a productive life.

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LOL, you don't!! Get used to it...heh heh.

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JRB, you can add slightly more time for a productive life once you give up the fight against the TPM addiction. Admit defeat and carry on as best as you can.

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It looks great and the links to reader posts are a welcome addition. But, anything that gives you greater flexibility on the back-end is what really counts, especially when a subject needs more context and/or further reading for relevancy.

Thanks.

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I understand you want to keep the front page uncluttered, and so the items there invite recommendations but not comments.
Sometimes, however, what's posted does cry out for discussion. In those specific cases, why not link to a mirror of the post at the appropriate place inside (muckraker, DC, etc.), where folks can weigh in?
Sometimes you ask, "What do you think?" and, after considerable delay, post a few selected email comments. That's fine, but you know TPMers like to argue among themselves too.
I've seen people post blogs for the sole purpose of debating an issue you've raised on the front page. Why not cut out the middle man?

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very much agree.

josh's posts often warrant more discussion. but apparently that discussion is supposed to happen via email. don't like it.

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I liked it. One thing comes to mind, at the first look, is the size of the headline, such as "Cheney's Big Speech". In the current format is is larger and clearer to these old eyes than in the new, upcoming format. The eye is drawn to it, instead of having to look for it with the new format.

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I'd make one suggestion for the reader blogs on the front page, Josh. You have the user names in all caps - which is not the way they appear at the Cafe.

Since your name and the names of other writers here does not appear in all caps, I'd recommend that the front page show the user names as we're used to seeing them. I like that the user pics appear next to the blog. But I personally much prefer the user names just as people chose them. And it's more consistent with how others names also appear. (People mostly go to a lot of trouble in deciding how to have a user name print. That should be honored.)

Thanks for considering that.

I'm not THERAP. I'm TheraP. :-)

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Take LisB's name, for example. Versus LISB.

Or PseudoCyAnts. Versus PSEUDOCYANTS.

Or GregorZap. Versus GREGORZAP.

Or DonMooney. Versus DONMOONEY.

Or NobelCommentDecider. Versus NOBELCOMMENTDECIDER

It's gonna get confusing to keep it the way it is!

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Thanks, Thera. Good point.

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No redesign can make up for dmubing down and selling out. Paul Begala? You have to be kidding me?

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Time will tell whether this will enhance or ruin our little Cafe. If more people read our posts we may get more trolls and lose our focus, but I guess it is for is to determine how to deal with them. On a more positive note, I think the world might benefit from some of the posts. I really appreciate how thoughtful people can be here, towards each other and the situations at hand. BUt, now that I'm addicted, I can't declare I like TPM ... I need it!!! :-{)> hehehe

No, actually, I like it too. ;-{)>

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I always go directly to the Café page so it was a surprise to see how good the front page looks. The gray triangle in the upper right corner makes all the difference :-)

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yes, we went to considerable lengths to preserve the "dogear." glad you appreciate.

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Al! You rawk!

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Sorry. What is the point of the "dog ear?"

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TPMCafé Reader Voices

should have a "More Voices" link below the Top 5 (or Top N).

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I just A/B compared the old/new TPM layout and the result is striking. The new design is sleek, trim and viscerally pleasing while conveying a third more information at a single glance. Even for an "old guy" who can't find his navel without reading glasses the old type was too large.

The inclusion of Reader Voices on the front page is very effective as it will integrate the whole site into a collective entity. It also challenges reader/bloggers to reach new journalistic/literary heights.

The all-caps reminds me of my first "chicklet keyboard" where all-caps and 300 baud is all you got, we have grown since then. Although it is interesting seeing Thera referred to as, THE-RAP

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It also challenges reader/bloggers to reach new journalistic/literary heights.

Oh, Lord! You just set the bar pretty high there, buddy!

I may need to slack off now...

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Forgot to sign off as: THE RAP!

I may have to polish my poetry skills....

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"I may have to polish my poetry skills..."

You better. And music, and art, and Arthurian scholarship, and humor, and etc., etc, etc.

Quick name one other web site with the diversity (and quality) of TPM reader posts and comments, progressive or otherwise.

I just hope the front page readers are ready for the enlightenment...

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Gee, maybe between now and tomorrow we could sell Josh an ad for parasols or something to deflect the rays of enlightenment a bit... so as not to do too much damage to delicate neurons... as they adjust to our presence...

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I believe that is why G-d invented Ray Bans...
Murry says, "woof."

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Duh..... ;)

Murry is smarter than me!

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Do these changes only affect the TPM front page, or are changing being made to TPM Cafe itself?

Will the changes bring any new policies to this site?

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Dan, Are there policy changes you'd like that you're trying to hint at? This is a design change, one that for right now is limited to the front page, though the new grid pattern the design is based on will be migrated to the other sites. It has nothing to do with site policies.

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No, no hints Josh. I was honestly just curious about whether the front page redesign, including the integration of Cafe content onto the front page is part of a broader project to re-conceive the purposes of TPM Cafe, or even do away with it as a separate entity.

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If the software changes, please, please have mercy upon those of us who are still shell-shocked from the changes of one year ago....

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Humor lasts a little while. But Torture is forever!

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I like it, and I agree about the spelling of bloggers' names.

C VL LEDEM

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shheeesh! I didn't even spell my own name right:

CV ILL EDEM

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