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Pakistan, outside the box

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Social scientists have long used systems theory to point out links that are sometimes overlooked. Such a link now leads to the suggestion that to deal with the crisis in Pakistan and the mounting difficulties in Afghanistan, one should go to, of all places, India. The main reason the Pakistani army is reluctant to take on the Taliban, who threaten to overrun the country, is that the army considers India its enemy.

The main source of tension between the two countries is the question of who will control Kashmir. At first, any suggestion of solving this tricky problem in order to get the Pakistani army to refocus would seem truly far-fetched, if not visionary to the nth degree - like asking someone to improve the climate by first stopping earthquakes. Dealing with the internal tensions in Pakistan is difficult enough; add to the mix a conflict that has been simmering for decades and seems to resist any solution, and your way seems completely blocked.

The good news is that secret negotiations between India and Pakistan about Kashmir have been taking place. Those now need to be restarted, supported, and accelerated. In the process should we also dump the obsolete notion that India should be made to "balance" China, and we may then be on our way to a more stable region in this much contested part of Asia. Both steps require some elaboration.

India and Pakistan have fought three wars and come close to blows on several other occasions, mainly over Kashmir. The Pakistani and Indian armies' training, formations, and alignments are focused on deterring each other, and are largely concentrated on their mutual border. The terrorists who recently attacked Mumbai, and before that the Indian Parliament and markets in New Delhi, see themselves as Kashmiri freedom fighters. It is hard to imagine major repositioning of the troops involved and changes in the strategic planning of both countries until the Kashmir issue is resolved.

A large variety of suggestions have been made about the way to determine the future of Kashmir. Some favor that the people of the area be allowed to vote on which nation they wish to join, as was prescribed by the UN Security Council after the partition of India; others favor dividing the area between the two nations; still others favor turning it into an area which enjoys a large measure of independence. The secret negotiations that took place between India and Pakistan during Pervez Musharraf's tenure as president appear to have focused on the idea of 'making borders irrelevant,' that is, granting Kashmir a great deal of autonomy to avoid either country having to lose face by giving up their claims to control. Since General Musharraf stepped down these negotiations seem to have stopped. The Obama Administration would do well to apply here the same system-wide approach it is revealing in the Middle East: follow the links. In this case, encourage, cajole, and help Pakistan and India to move toward settling the Kashmir issue. Eliminating this source of terrorism and war, and the reason both nations are keen to maintain nuclear arms, is of course worthy in its own right. It will also pay off handsomely in getting the Pakistani army to focus on the Taliban, including both those who threaten the government at home and those who cross the border from Pakistan to Afghanistan.

Obama seems not to shy away from complexities. In this case, dealing with India must take into account two more related matters. One involves a Bush Administration-backed deal with India which allows US companies to sell it nuclear fuel and other nuclear technologies to be used only in India's civilian reactors. However, the net effect it that this deal allows India to shift from civilian to military use the limited uranium it has from other sources. (Bush assumed that it is acceptable for 'good' governments--like that of India and Brazil--to develop their nuclear industries, while only those of 'bad' governments, such as Iran and North Korea, need to be reined in.) However, as we now fear in Pakistan, government can change overnight, and above all, if the norm against proliferation is to have a chance to take hold, the fewer nations that go down this road, the greater the chances of enforcing a non-nuke global regime. This means is that even if the US can't get India and Pakistan to give up their nukes, at this stage at least, it is ill-advised to help them increase their armed nuclear program. Hence the Obama Administration should renegotiate the agreement to provide nuclear fuel and technologies to India, and both India and Pakistan should be encouraged to scale back on the nukes and join the NPT, as their conflicts are resolved.

All this assumes that one drops the obsolete notion that nations can be used to balance each other and that a militarily powerful India somehow will serve to countervail a rising China. China is focused on its economic development, and its military has a very long way to go before it will pose a threat to the United States, even if there was reason to believe that it would seek such a confrontation. And if China has such intentions, whether India has a few extra nukes or not would hardly matter, given the size of the American arsenal. In short, to the extent that the US has any influence on India, it can be used to scale back its nuclear program without any discernible loss to American strategic interest.

I will be the first to grant that this kind of social science thinking leads one to try to tackle some very tough and persistent international problems as a way to treat some very acute local problems inside Pakistan and in Afghanistan. In that sense, it is truly far-fetched. However, these pestering international conflicts call for resolution anyhow, and if they can at least be curbed, such progress would help on the local fronts. Dealing with the Taliban may entail going to Kashmir, New Delhi, and Islamabad, and forgetting for now about China.


Amitai Etzioni professor of international relations at The George Washington University and the author of Security First (Yale 2007). For more, go here.


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Ghandi, almost alone, stood against the division of India and the separation of Pakistan, he even supported making the leading Muslim politician, Jinnah the first prime minister of free India. Nehru and Montbatten refused to even consider it.

As described in the recent book Shameful Flight by Wolpert, Lord Mountbatten, by hastily and irresponsibly creating Pakistan, destroyed 150 years of work by generations of British and Indian people to unite and administer India as a united secular democracy.

Pakistan never became what Jinnah hoped it to be, secular and non-denominational. It has few prospects of being anything but a country always on the edge of failure.

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The main reason the Pakistani army is reluctant to take on the Taliban, who threaten to overrun the country, is that the army considers India its enemy.

While Etzioni's argument doesn't rely upon the truth of this assertion, it is the case that this debatable statement seems to be on its way to becoming a meme in Af-Pak discussions. Thus, it deserves to be looked at closely.

The Taliban does not "threaten to overrun the country." The Pakistani generals control a 550,000 man military which they can marshal against the Taliban or the civilian government at any time it is in their interest so to do. No ragtag bunch of lightly armed peasants is going to "overrun" the Pakistani army -- or for that matter, the state.

Pakistan has concluded that putting in the civil and police forces necessary to assert its authority in the Tribal Areas and NWFP isn't worth the cost.* On that view of its self-interest the state has ceded a substantial amount of what little control over the FATA and the NWFP it earlier had to the local tribal chiefs and formalized the imposition of sharia, and it is the case that the Taliban controls many of those tribal leaders.

"Pashtunistan" has always been run by the Pashtuns. From the point of view of the Pakistani generals, nothing's changed except the names of the Pashtuns who are running "Pashtunistan" today.

* The generals will play some PR war games when their US military aid package is up for renewal, but those games will conclude after a few weeks and everything will be back to where it was.

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Excellent comment, you beat me to the punch. !8,000 Taliban are no match for the Army. If this represents the conditions for a failed State, how many militiamen are running around the woods of Montana et al?

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The divergence between India and Pakistan as nation states is marked and instructive. India has succeeded in building a diverse, mostly democratic and increasingly productive state; Pakistan has not, although its' ethnic and religious diversity is much less marked than India's. As an earlier comment noted, Pakistan was an artificial creation, largely the ego of one man. The simple solution would be to reunite Pakistan and India. I do not minimize the obstacles to this, but a first step is simply to advance the proposition. If 100 million Muslims can live peacefully in India, there is no need for Pakistan.

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While I don't happen to agree with your opinion, I am amazed how many people I see advocating a two-state "solution" for Israel/Palestine as if something similar hadn't already been tried and there weren't lessons to be learned from that trial about how it didn't solve that much.

I once did a quick blog post on it here: On that two-state "solution" thing?

The parallels are many, starting with the demographic situation:
IndianMuslims.info: ....Muslims experience low literacy and high poverty rates, and Hindu-Muslim violence has claimed a disproportionate number of Muslim lives....Muslims (mostly Sunnis) make up 13.4 percent of India's population, yet hold fewer than 5 percent of government posts and make up only 4 percent of the undergraduate student body in India's elite universities. The report also found that Muslims fall behind other groups in terms of access to credit, despite the fact that Muslims are self-employed at a far higher rate than other groups....

(By the way, that whole site belies your statement about the happiness of Muslims in India.)

Arab citizens comprise approximately 20% of the population of Israel.

My belief is that these "solutions," one-state, two-state, many state, whatever, they don't end problems, they are not really solutions at all, no panacea, they just paper over problems. And the papering over process is not harmless, it often comes at great cost, creating further inherited resentments.

Anyone hear anything about Kurdistan lately? How about concern/anxiety/turmoil about two many Muslim immigrants in Euro countries?

State "solutions" are misnamed, they are not solutions to much at all.

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Lord Mountbatten, by hastily and irresponsibly creating Pakistan, destroyed 150 years of work by generations of British and Indian people to unite and administer India as a united secular democracy.”

Sorry Wolport is a biased historian here. The British never really made a single effort throughout their rule to unite the people. They in fact created and promoted many trivial differences that finally snowballed into major differences and led to a total breakdown in communications between the two religious groups. Things in India were not as simple as Wolpert makes them out to be.

The generals will play some PR war games when their US military aid package is up for renewal, but those games will conclude after a few weeks and everything will be back to where it was.

Why blame only the Pakistan Army Generals? The US is part of this game too or rather the US initiates this game. Last year when the aid package came up for renewal, there were incessant reports in the media that the Taliban were about to run over the NWFP capital Peshawar. As soon as the aid package was approved, all stories died too. The hysteria or a sense of urgency is created whenever it is time to reward the Pakistan army for its cooperation in the seemingly endless war to look for a person who is not even in Afghanistan.

We need to define what our goals are in Afghanistan or this war will go the way the Iraq war is going.

I don’t agree with Prof. Amitai Etzioni on linking India in to this whole issue. The effort is to bring India in to the conflict to increase the scope of the conflict, not resolve it. There is no way the US can mediate or resolve the long simmering conflict in the Subcontinent.

The Pakistan army with active connivance of the US has come up with this excuse that the Indian army on the Eastern borders somehow is a stumbling block for the Pakistan army to deploy troops on the western borders.

For almost four years the Bush admin tried to -or at least pretended to- force the Pakistan army for more deployment on the Western borders. We heard many excuses then but not this one. This excuse emerged right after the Obama admin took over or just days before his was sworn in.

Imo, the US is not looking to end its involvement in Afghanistan but the whole game is to extend it. We will continue to see more excuses, more obstacles and some more posturing. Of course, the ever-present threat of Nukes hanging over the western world from the So-called Islamic world will always come in handy.

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. . . when the aid package [comes] up for renewal . . . hysteria or a sense of urgency is created . . . .

I agree that the Pakistani Generals are not solely to blame --

But it is the fact that the source of the "news" the hysterics report is almost always those selfsame, selfinterested Pakistani Generals (usually, the COAS -- Gen. Kayani these days).

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Things in India were not as simple as Wolpert makes them out to be.

Things in India are never 'simple', as Ghandi knew, and that is why he vehemently opposed partition.

He knew the two state solution would not resolve differences, and it hasn't. Ghandi was killed by a Hindu fanatic for being too tolerant of Muslims.

The real killing began first in the Punjab as soon as Mountbatten announced the partition and the new borders and spread from there. Tensions have never ceased since.

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But it is the fact that the source of the "news" the hysterics report is almost always those selfsame, selfinterested Pakistani Generals (usually, the COAS -- Gen. Kayani these days).

Not entirely correct. The Pakistan army has no known control over the US media but we know how the US media is manipulated by some, including the White House, in Washington. This is primarily a US game. The Pakistani Generals appear to be mostly following the orders or are just going along for the US $$$.

From my own post above.


I don’t agree with Prof. Amitai Etzioni on linking India in to this whole issue. The effort is to bring India in to the conflict to increase the scope of the conflict, not resolve it. There is no way the US can mediate or resolve the long simmering conflict in the Subcontinent.

Let me say this that the US has no way to resolve the conflict between India and Pakistan in a short period of time.It might take years of diplomacy to make both paries agree on some solution and sell the solution to their own populations.

Prof. Amitai Etzioni, can the US wait that long for the Pakistan army to show up on its western borders? Is this not just another ploy to add some longevity to the Afghan war?

Thanks.

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. . . we know how the US media is manipulated by some, including the White House, in Washington.

Are they manipulators or liars or cretins?*

* "The situation in Pakistan, [Sec. Clinton told lawmakers], 'poses a mortal threat to the security and safety of our country and the world.'" Strobel and Landay 4/22/09

Just the facts, ma'am, just the facts or -- calm down, you silly woman.

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