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The U.S. International Economic Peril - 2009-2010 Will be More Treacherous Than 1933-1934

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Who can blame Federal Reserve Board Chairman Ben Bernanke for hoping that the pattern of 1929-1933 is repeating itself and that the United States can somehow look for a rerun of its grand mid-20th century world hegemony achieved by the economic stimulus policies of the 1930s and the global realignment of World War Two? Barack Obama may have a similar hope.

Alas, it's unrealistic. "Green shoots" may indeed be visible in parts of America's Springtime economy. However, some of the most important buds will probably turn out to be poison ivy. Our recent once-in-a-century mega-implosion of a metastasized financial sector could not be more different than the ostensible precedents of 1929-1933. In some ways, the more apt and worrisome parallels are to three imperial examples - the late-stage financializations and decline-of-empire patterns of early 20th century Britain, maritime Holland (when Manhattan still spoke Dutch) and the 16th century Spain of the gold and silver treasure fleets.

As part of its parallel to these earlier historical misfortunes, the United States of 2009 has now dissipated many of the strengths it enjoyed back in the late 1920s and early 1930s. As the new 2009 edition of Bad Money elaborates, the international vulnerabilities of the United States based on these reversals and transformations will be pitfalls for the next decade or two, limiting U.S. economic prospects. Here's my list of worrisome metamorphoses to ponder:

Back in the late 1920s and early 1930s, the United States was the world's leading creditor nation, thanks to World War One. Now we are the world's biggest debtor.

The financial services sector that crashed from 1929 to 1933 was only 4-8% of 1929's Gross National Product (not that figures exist). A dominant manufacturing sector was still available to lead recovery in the 1930s and 1940s. This time, the finance, insurance and real estate sector that crashed represented a goliath 20% of GDP, while manufacturing, having tumbled to 12% of GDP, is too shriveled to fill the gap.

Public and private debt now represents a much larger figure relative to GDP (roughly 340%) than similar debt did in 1929 (about 180%).

From World War One to the 1950s, the United States was the world's leading oil producer, with no global supply problem. Now we must import two-thirds of our oil with considerable supply vulnerability and at a brutal 2006-2008 cost.

In the late 1920s and 1930s, the U.S. dollar was one of the world's strongest currencies, but because it had yet to become the world's principal reserve currency, it was not yet very vulnerable to a dollar run or crisis. Britain was in that particular currency hotseat at the time. Now the U.S. dollar is the reserve currency, albeit much weakened, with creditor nations like China and Japan having huge reserves. Crises and runs on the dollar are expected.

In the late 1920s, the underlying pre-1929 global pattern in commodity prices was strongly deflationary, which facilitated broader 1929-1932 worldwide deflation. In the 2000s, as the IMF noted in 2008, the world was in its strongest commodity inflation pattern since the 1970s, which may well support rapidly rekindling inflation in late 2009 or 2010.

When world trade contracted sharply from 1930 to 1932, it was coming off a prior U.S. and global regime of protectionism that supported a 1930s U.S. move to liberalization. Now we are in a 2008 and 2009 trade contraction coming of 30-40 years of unprecedented global liberalization (GATT, the WTO et al), which may hint at an economic nationalism in response.

In the 1920s and early 1930s, the U.S. was isolationist, which limited foreign and military global over-reach and its indebtedness corollaries. Now we have very high-cost over-reach and vulnerability centered on Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. Over-indebtedness of an empire-in-decline nature in Britain, Holland and Spain was closely linked to hubris and foreign war burdens.

There are other metamorphoses as well, but this short list should make the point. Ben Bernanke may think that his doctoral thesis on how the 1929-33 crash could have been avoided positions him for economic stardom eighty years later. Still, I wonder how much relevance it has - and how he and Larry Summers, Tim Geithner and President Obama intend to deal with our new global vulnerabilities. No one should get too carried away with all the talk about "new green shoots" in the U.S. political economy.

Kevin Phillips' 2008 book Bad Money: Reckless Finance, Failed Politics and the Global Crisis of American Capitalism has just been released in a new and much-expanded 2009 edition (Penguin).


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For historical parallels, I strongly recommend Paul Kennedy's book, "The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers," published about 20 years ago, and still quite relevant.

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Agreed!

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Phillips choice of empires perhaps works if the main point of comparison is economics. But Spain and Holland peak rather early in their centuries.

Besides the parallel with Britian in decades prior to the World Wars, the other parallels with senescent empires might be Austria and France.

Austria under the ineffective Emperor Rudolf II (1576-1612) engages in the Long War (1593-1606) against the Ottomans and generally fails to cope with Protestant-Catholic internal stresses until the Defenestration of Prague begins the devastating Thirty Years War (1618-48).

France during Louis XV's reign declined rapidly after 1748 leading up to the French Revolution/Napoleonic Wars (1789-1814).

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Are you saying that the only established way to end this financial meltdown is to start another world war? That seems to be what ended all the other economic meltdowns.

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There are other moral ways to do a massive government stimulus as opposed to starting a war.

So we need "... the moral equivalent of war.." economically speaking.

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This economic crises can be ended without another war. The Long Depression (1873-1896), which affected Great Britain most severely, ended almost two decades before the outbreak of the World Wars. Economic crises in the dominant power are related to the shifts in relative standing of the Great Powers, but are not an immediate precursor to a conflict.

The Black Death unlocked the structures of Medieval society and since then there have been a series of expansions, power shifts, consolidations, and total war in Europe. Each total war episode (Wars of the Reformation, Thirty Years War, French Revolution, World Wars) has again decreased population and weakened social structures so that the next cycle could proceed. In the 20th century, the European pattern became synchronized world wide.

Most likely the next episode would begin around 2030 triggered by the stresses resulting from the decline in available fossil fuels.

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In 1970-75 we lost oil independence and were forced to leave the gold standard. In 2009 we lost food independence.

Chrysler just went bankrupt, GM soon will. Neither will make it through 2010...but even if they do at least half a million auto related jobs will be lost. More likely the number will exceed a million. Other industries will continue to shed large numbers of jobs as well...so the real economy will continue to decline.

Citibank and Bank of America will then collapse. The dollar will soon follow. Then the entire country.

A new dark age, a new age of barbarian invasions and migrations, will then descend, similar to that which followed the collapse of the western Roman Empire...but we now have nuclear weapons.

Have fun.

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I like your rosy outlook.

Actually the USA lost its oil independence before 1970. It was only in 1973 that the loss was realized when supplies diminished and there were lines at empty gas stations. This was emphasized in 2008 when the crude oil market was cornered and the price of gas soared to $5.00 per gallon in the USA.

Also, the USA went off the gold standard in 1930, and went off the silver standard in 1965 when the USA stopped making coins (other than collectors editions) in those metals.
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Hey, whats' your problem Phillips? Are you arguing with the almighty Dow?

Why stop with your macro list?
Lets see, we have millions of newly unemployed, an unsustainable health care sector at 17% of gdp and growing, a bankrupt auto sector, impending commercial real estate bubble deflation, collapsing print and journalism industries, disappearing financial firms, a construction industry 1/3 smaller than a year ago and shrinking, and a coming tidal wave of retail bankruptcies as the paradox of thrift settles in,
and oh hey the first babyboomers just turned 62, entitlement $$$ chi-ching.

Good times all around, but shhhh, keep it quiet.
the spring's here! rebirth! pretty flowers! Bo Obama! Dow 8,000!

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Thank you Mr. Phillips!!! The facts and substance of your post have been known for a long time and generally gone unmentioned for just as long.

To add further gloom to your prognosis, if I remember correctly, during the Depression at its peak unemployment in the US was around 25 percent. I recently read that male unemployment in the US is presently at 31 percent. (Labor Department figures naturally include women and probably illegals among whom unemployment is much less thus the Department's 14 percent figure.)

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2008 book

Talk about your good timing...I can't imagine that there will be any real competition for Phillips when the next round of Nobels is announced.

That being the case, when an observer of his acuity raises alarms, it demands attention.

In particular, I recall an earlier theme from his appearance on this board, viz the thoroughly "cooked" state of virtually all publically stated financial books (eg, for one, the unmysterious but nonetheless deceptive introduction into the CPI of "dynamic" scoring concepts, thanks Ronald Reagan...).

Bottom line:we don't know a lot of things that we think we know, and a lot of what we know is probably bullshit.

How, then, to muddle our way out?

Myself, I return with tedious regularity to the need for a World Government--right away, our 187 or so foreign bases become superfluous--we get a real peace dividend, and, most compelling reason of all, we simply cannot afford to go on playing Big Swinging Dick.

Like it or not, Georgie's Excellent Iraqi Adventure has truncated the American Hegemony by a generation; if we do not purposely (and purposefully) modify our posture vis-a-vis world affairs and our own disfunctional socio-economic system, then events will overtake us and *modify that posture perforce.


*Bend over, stretch head between legs, grab ass with both hands--now kiss it goodbye.

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Bravo!

Your point about dismantling the empire is an excellent one! Nothing drains us and destroys our strength and power as a nation like the imperial fantasy that the boys in DC continue to play out as though we had anything to "win" in the middle east and south asia. They are suffering from an incredibly dangerous delusion of unending imperial hegemony.

This delusion seems closely related to the entire fantasyland ethos that rules all aspects of Washington thinking whether on torture, the inexcusable welfare program for the big banks in which we commoners get nothing in return, etc... But the best first move is to dismantle the imperial military and get that peace dividend asap.

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"Peace dividend"? This sets war as the status quo. We shouldn't be talking about cashing in on a "peace dividend" but rather eliminating our "war burden" (not just a financial burden but a burden on life, morality, image, etc.).

It's kind of like saying that not smoking or eating organic produce prevents cancer. The accurate description is that smoking and eating conventional produce are both cancer causing activities.

Perspective is incredibly important and all too often the corporate/political elements are winning the battle of who gets to define it (watch out for that swine ... er, H1N1 flu).

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I agree with you that we shouldn't even be having to talk like that, but ya gotta start somewhere and we find ourselves surrounded by all the trappings and expenses of empire. Thus, we have to start cutting it loose!

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as though we had anything to "win"

Talk about your slow learners--after Iraq you would think that Shocking and Awing would have lost some of its initial glow...

Ironically, (for some--actually, you can tell from his eyes that he is a serious guy) Ahmadinajad really demonstrated his modernity when he wrote Bush that hand written letter which drew so much derision--he said that armed conflict was simply not a policy instrument that could yield any of the results it might ostensibly be pursuing.

Ultimately sovereignty must migrate upwards, even though it may seem to us (midway through the process) as unlikely as the emergence of a French nation might have seemed to a Norman serf bound to a Duke currently (1066) engaged in a frolic across the channel.

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So going forward if we rein in financialization thru regulation, build a new energy economy and along with it manufacturing jobs, overhaul the healthcare sector, and do all the other things Obama is trying to accomplish, do we have a chance? I'll put my money on yes because a vast majority of people on this planet don't want to fight to preserve the old ways and the privileges for the favored few. And we finally have a US president who doesn't to either.

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Actually, the number of U.S. military bases worldwide exceeds 700.

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Chalmers Johnson is a good source on this point.

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around 1000 if you include all the bases we are not supposed to know about

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On the brighter side, in 1933 you could die at a very young age due to an infected blister or other wound (there was no antibiotic therapy).

Unlike 1933 we are not on the verge of a world war. Lynching, along with less deadly forms of racism and discrimination, are no longer legal.

Plus we have better air and automobile transport, better communication systems, cheaper phone rates, better radio and TV (if you consider TV a plus), access through new technology to books, documents, information and knowledge, movies etc. undreamed of 50 years ago, and...TPM!

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all the kids dying from not eating will appreciate how far we have come to the brighter side.

war not peace and wealth not food rules.

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It's useful to be aware that the US is not in as strong a position in global economic terms now as it was in 1929.

It's also useful to remember that debtor countries of the 1930's were also able to recover from the Depression. Short of Great Power conflict -- which does not appear to be on the horizon -- there's no reason to feel apocalyptic.

We could benefit from studying how countries such as France and Britain dealt with the Depression, rather than focusing only on the US experience.

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The US now is in the role that the UK was in 80 years ago. China is now in the role the US was in 80 years ago. It is up to China to make the kind of mistakes the US made back then, and to eventually shape the New World Order. Will Chinese Communists behave differently from Western capitalists? We shall see.

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