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Partisan activists need to study the work of objective political scientists like Andrew Gelman and of objective partisans like Ruy Teixeira of the Center for American Progress. That's because very few pundits or campaign consultants are terribly numerate. (For a comic example of the innumeracy of our political elite, observe Hillary strategist Mark Penn's recent calculations in the Wall Street Journal on the piles of easy money you can supposedly make off running a blog that gets 3300 visitors per day.)

Partisans need to understand the numbers, or they turn into losers. Consider John McCain's recent campaign.

For nine years I've been saying that the Bush-Rove-McCain consensus of mild enthusiasm for illegal immigration is politically deleterious for the GOP. (And Ruy Teixeira has said some of the same things, as well).

The strategy of the men who have been the last three GOP nominees was to push amnesty in collaboration with Ted Kennedy in order to woo Hispanic voters for the GOP. The media has repeatedly endorsed this Republican approach as electorally sensible. (The question of why Ted Kennedy would help improve GOP electoral prospects does not appear to have come up much in high GOP deliberations.)

In contrast, I've repeatedly argued since 2000 that

- There aren't really as many Hispanic voters as everybody thinks there are. (Hispanics made up only 7.4% of all voters in 2008, if my use of Data Ferret to get the not-yet published Census Bureau survey data is correct. And 2008 was a good year for Hispanics due to fewer whites bothering to vote. In 2006, Hispanics cast only 5.8% of the vote. In 2004, 6.0%, in 2002 5.3%, and in 2000 5.4%.)

- Hispanic voters don't really care that much about amnesty because Hispanic-American voters are American citizens, not illegal aliens. Hispanic voters tend to have profoundly ambivalent views about illegal immigration, combining some level of ethnocentrism with an awareness that they are the most direct victims of the non-stop flow of illegal immigrants competing down their own wages and overwhelming their neighborhoods and their schools.For example, Cesar Chavez hated illegal immigration and sent his brother to lead UFW workers as vigilante border patrolmen, because illegal immigrants threatened to, and eventually did, break the power of the United Farm Workers union to raise wages.

- Bush, Rove, and McCain have an exaggerated view of the importance of amnesty as an issue for Hispanic voters because most of the Hispanics they deal with are Professional Hispanics -- e.g., consultants for advertising to the Hispanic community, Hispanic politicians, Hispanic ethnic activists, and the like. These Professional Latinos all want more Hispanic immigration because they make money based on how many co-ethnics they claim to represent. Due to this financial conflict of interest, they do not accurately represent the mixed views on illegal immigration of the Latino-American citizens they supposedly speak for.

- Hispanics are not a swing vote. They've been solidly, but not overwhelmingly Democratic, since JFK.

- Bush did not carry 44% of the Hispanic vote in 2004. The Edison-Mitofsky exit poll firm later admitted they had messed up their Hispanic sampling and the more accurate number was around 40%, up from about 35% for Bush 2000, only slightly more than Bush's increase in the overall vote.

- And that small gain by Bush among Hispanics from 2000 to 2004 was largely purchased by Bush launching the unsustainable Housing Bubble by cutting regulation of home mortgage lending (e.g., Bush repeatedly promoted zero downpayment and zero documentation mortgages in 2002-2004 as part of his call for increasing minority homeownership by 5.5 million households). This poured lots of money into the hands of Hispanic subprime borrowers and Hispanic constructions workers. By 2008, unfortunately but hardly surprisingly, Hispanics were hit disproportionately hard by foreclosures and construction layoffs.

- Hispanics tend to be old-fashioned tax and spend Democrats for straightforward economic reasons that Harry Hopkins would have immediately understood. They just don't earn that much money on average. And their elites benefit from affirmative action. So, they are natural Democrats. (Cubans, born-again Protestants, and the affluent are the main exceptions).

- While Hispanics aren't overwhelmingly Democratic voters, their political leadership is. One study found that 92% of elected Hispanic officials were Democrats. So, increasing the number of Latino residents when gerrymandering is done in 2011 will increase the number of Democratic officeholders.

- Immigration is an issue that can bring out white voters who might not otherwise turn out. It appears that blacks showed up in big numbers in 2008, and Hispanics in fairly big numbers, but whites were rather unmotivated by John McAmnesty's candidacy.

So, it finally dawned on John McCain a few weeks ago that he'd been led down the primrose path. Kirk Victor wrote recently in the National Journal:


"John McCain sounds angry and frustrated that, despite the risks he took in pushing immigration reform, Hispanic voters flocked to Democrat Barack Obama in last year's presidential contest. McCain's raw emotions burst forth recently as he heatedly told Hispanic business leaders that they should now look to Obama, not him, to take the lead on immigration.

"The meeting in the Capitol's Strom Thurmond Room on March 11 was a Republican effort led by Sens. McCain of Arizona, John Thune of South Dakota, and Mel Martinez of Florida to reach out to Hispanics. But two people who attended the session say they were taken aback by McCain's anger.

"What began as a collegial airing of views abruptly changed when McCain spoke about immigration" ... He was angry," one source said. "He was over the top. In some cases, he rolled his eyes a lot. There were portions of the meeting where he was just staring at the ceiling, and he wasn't even listening to us. We came out of the meeting really upset."

"McCain's message was obvious, the source continued: After bucking his party on immigration, he had no sympathy for Hispanics who are dissatisfied with President Obama's pace on the issue. "He threw out [the words] 'You people -- you people made your choice. You made your choice during the election,' " the source said. "It was almost as if [he was saying] 'You're cut off!' We felt very uncomfortable when we walked away from the meeting because of that."

"In 2006 and 2007, McCain was a leader on immigration, but his efforts ran aground largely because his legislation included what many Republicans derisively characterized as "amnesty," a pathway to citizenship for the nation's estimated 12 million illegal immigrants if they took a series of steps to earn legal status.

"Having stuck his neck out in the past, McCain apparently is in no mood to do so again for an ethnic group he seems to view as ungrateful. ..."

"Hispanics gave Obama a whopping 67 percent of their votes, more than double the 31 percent they gave to McCain. A former colleague of McCain's, Rick Santorum, R-Pa., who opposed immigration reform, told National Journal, "John risked a lot to go out there and do what he did. They basically turned their back on him, a guy who had done a lot more for them than Barack Obama ever would. So I can understand his anger, but I also know that John doesn't get over things easily."

McCain read all the nice things the media said about him over the years, and believed much of the rest of the media conventional wisdom, especially on topics like immigration.

It betrayed him


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Mr. Sailer, care to expound upon your concept of:
Sand States?

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The "Sand States" is a Wall Street term popularized by Michael Lewis last fall for the four states -- California, Arizona, Nevada, and Florida -- where the vast majority of defaulted mortgage dollars on have been lost. Probably approaching 7/8ths of all the defaulted dollars so far have been in just from those four Sand States.

From CNN a couple of days ago:

"The 26 cities with the highest foreclosure rate in the nation are all located in four hard-hit states, with Las Vegas topping the list, according to a report released Wednesday.

"Metro areas in California, Florida, Nevada and Arizona topped the foreclosure filing list for the first quarter of 2009 in a report from RealtyTrac, an online marketer of foreclosed properties. A foreclosure filing includes default papers, auction sale notices and repossessions.

"Las Vegas had the highest rate of foreclosures of any city, with one in every 22 homes subject to a foreclosure filing in the first three months of the year. The rate of foreclosure filings was 4.5%, seven times the national average.

"Merced, Calif., had the second highest rate, with Cape Coral-Fort Myers, Fla., Stockton, Calif., and Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, Calif., rounding out the top five.

"The metro areas with the highest levels of foreclosure activity in the first quarter of 2009 paint a picture of concentrated problems in a relatively small number of hard-hit areas," said James J. Saccacio, chief executive officer of RealtyTrac, in a written statement.

"Foreclosure rates have been very high in the 4 key states throughout the bursting of the housing bubble, and so it was to be expected that cities from those states would pepper the top of the list.

"However, it was a surprise to see the list so top heavy, according to Rick Sharga, senior vice president at RealtyTrac.

"The concentration of troubled metro areas within the hardest-hit states, candidly, was even more severe than we expected it to be," Sharga said. "The degree to which those four states dominated the rankings surprised even us."

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The great majority of dollars lost on foreclosures so far in the mortgage meltdown that set off the economic crash were lost in rapidly Hispanicizing regions, such as Southern California. The Greater Los Angeles area probably accounts for somewhere approaching half of all defaulted dollars so far.

For example, according to the federal Home Mortgage Disclosure Act database, 79% of all subprime dollars loaned in the giant five county Southern California region went to minority borrowers, with 58% of the regions's total going to Hispanics.

In the Inland Empire, which has the most foreclosures in the country, total mortgage dollars (prime and subprime) going to Hispanics increased 782% from 1999 to 2006, versus 134% for whites.

In 2006, about 56% of all mortgage dollars, prime and subprime, in the entire state of California went to minorities.

This was all part of George W. Bush's plan that he promoted at his October 15, 2002 White House Conference on Minority Homeownership. He wanted to narrow the racial gaps in homeownership and add 5.5 million more minority homeowners by getting rid of requirements for down payments and for documenting the applicant's income on his mortgage application. Bush's speeches from the time are very similar to those of Angelo Mozilo of Countrywide, who was also calling for zero down / zero doc mortgages in the name of letting minorities have their fair share of the American Dream.

It was all a scam to make zillions selling crap loans to Wall Street, but the "crimestop" in our society when anybody raises any skepticism about Diversity lets con men like Mozilo get away with exploiting political correctness.

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Just to be specific:

"79% of all subprime dollars loaned in the giant five county Southern California region went to minority borrowers," -- this is for the year 2006, the worst year for toxic lending.

You can look all these mortgage numbers by ethnicity for yourself up in the Home Mortgage Disclosure Act federal database at www.ffiec.gov.

You can look at my graphs of it at:
http://isteve.blogspot.com/2009/04/subprime-bubble-in-living-color.html

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We need to organize and support a pro-sovereignty, anti-ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION protest, similar to the African-American one million man march in 1995, on the fortress Washington, DC. There are hundreds of irate American out there, comprised of Seniors, veterans, workers, single mothers and countless others who have had enough of being intentionally ignored. No politician is going to take any American or Legal resident seriously, until all the organization who believe in the word of the US Constitution, Bill of rights move en-masse on this morons who are supposed to represent us on Capitol hill. Most are out for themselves, and don't care that illegal foreign labor is taking American jobs, that as a people we have to genuflect to Health Insurance companies. We need to let Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV)Speaker Pelosi (D-CA) and all the Senators who have no interest working for the American people, who themselves are well provided for by the business community. As they have generous federal health insurance, they don't need to go cap-in-hand, requesting health care. While foreign nationals walk into the nearest hospital with out payment or immigration papers and receive services. Americans on the other hand must show SS number, drivers license , so that the debt collectors can chase them down for payment.

Ask you Senator or Congressman how they would vote to support E-Verify, Real ID act or the local police enforcement law 247(g). Ask them why we need a new Immigration reform law, when we already have the 1986 Immigration reform & Control Act, that only needs amendments? Ask them why this law was never enforced? Demand they support E-Verify and other laws and not weaken their power. E-Verify should be made permanent and any employer who violates that law, should be severely fined, business assets confiscated and end up in prison. Tell them your be watching them from now on, especially when it's time to vote. We cannot afford to lay-back anymore as the consequences are OVERPOPULATION. Loss of Americas sovereignty! A nation that is losing its cultural, language and spiritual identity.

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Overall, it appears that the Housing Bubble / Mortgage Meltdown was severely exacerbated by a Bush-Rove plan of 2002-2004, announced at the October 15, 2002 White House Conference of Minority Homeownership, to goose the economy overall and woo Hispanic voters in particular by lowering traditional mortgage credit standards. This set off a subprime boom that was fairly concentrated in rapidly Hispanicizing regions. When prices stopped going up, it was quickly discovered why there had been traditional mortgage credit standards in the first place, with defaults being concentrated among downscale and minority neighborhoods, especially on the exurbs where people moved in the hopes of keeping their kids out of the underclass. And the whole economy came toppling down.

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The Bush-Rove plan actually worked fairly well in Texas, where there is so much land and so few restrictions on housing development that increased supply doesn't lag long behind increased demand. But in California, a state that Bush and Rove didn't understand, environmentalism means that there's a long lag between rise in demand and rise in supply, and in the meantime, there was a huge spike in prices, with disastrous consequences.

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Steve:

Excellent post...again. I'm becoming a fan of a social scientist.

I appreciate your candor and the way you move past rhetoric and cliches to actually tell us something we really didn't know.

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You've cobbled a few stereotypes together, and are now passing them off as scholarship?

Hispanics tend to be old-fashioned tax and spend Democrats for straightforward economic reasons that Harry Hopkins would have immediately understood. They just don't earn that much money on average. And their elites benefit from affirmative action. So, they are natural Democrats. (Cubans, born-again Protestants, and the affluent are the main exceptions).

So they'r poor, and without affirmative action they might NEVER get ahead....

Welcome to TPM, now can you please go away?


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1. That Hispanic voters favor more government spending is not merely an assumption on Sailer's part, polls bear this out. Hispanic Republicans are actually more in favor of tax & spend than even white Democrats, as Sailer pointed out here. For evidence that Hispanics are poorer than average even after several generations residing here, see Generations of Exclusion by UCLA sociologists Edward Telles & Vilma Ortiz.
2. He specified that it was the elites who benefit from affirmative action. Elites would be the sort that least need a hand-up.

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Dorn 76, can you read? (1) Hispanics are, generally speaking, poorer. See, e.g., Los Angeles.

(2) Sailor is saying that some Hispanics benefit from affirmative action. Not that they "need" it. Don't misconstrue the argument.

That said, how can you respond to it? If one political party gave free jobs to Catholics, I'd support it! If one party gave jobs to people with minimal reading skills, you'd support it! Of course you would!

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I think there is a belief, whose evidentiary support I don't want to track down, that home owners vote Republican. Wasn't this the calculation Rove & Co. made? Get more Hispanics (the fastest rising population I think) into homes and they will become Republicans.

In a real sense then, Karl Rove can be blamed for a substantial part of our current economic debacle. I wonder what would have happened if home lending standards were not relaxed in 2005, but remained closer to traditional standards. I doubt we'd be having as large of a housing bust.

Fundamentally, I think Americans need to disabuse themselves of notion that owning a home is necessary, or they are entitled to one. I know it's part of the alleged American Dream, but that dream is from another era, and it's time to wake up. There's nothing wrong with living in an apartment, or renting. In fact, one would think living in apartments is more in line with current social values, i.e. a lack of desire to take responsibility for anything (just call the super!)

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So my post got censored?
 

 

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I was very surprised to see your rather accurate assessment of what many legal Hispanic immigrants think of the immigration situation. Many politicians do not seem to know about (or perhaps care to address?) this "silent minority" of Latinos.

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Mr. Sailer, you wrote that: "Professional Latinos all want more Hispanic immigration because they make money based on how many co-ethnics they claim to represent. Due to this financial conflict of interest, they do not accurately represent the mixed views on illegal immigration of the Latino-American citizens they supposedly speak for."

I suspect that you are overlooking another explanation. Professionals are often far more concerned with issues of dignity or the perception of dignity and/or respect.

Let me illustrate with an analogy. My teacher at Columbia, the late Jim Shenton, occasionally mentioned French Canadian nationalism in Quebec. He made the point that such French-speaking nationalism did not really exist when the majority of the French speaking population of Quebec lived in rural areas, working in agriculture (usually on small farms). French speaking nationalism only arose with the onset of substantial embourgeoisment. Once French speaking Canadians had become much wealthier etc, then they began to work for or favor a French speaking independent country.

I realize that favoring better treatment of illegal aliens is not the same as favoring the indepedence of Quebec, part I suspect that the underlying psychology is similar.

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Bill 1959, that may be true of nationalism in general. In the more rural medieval era people were defined more by their regional dialects and customs. It was with the creation of the printing press and the emergence of more strong centralized states based in an urban capitol that nationalism swept the continent.

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TGGP:

In response to my remarks, you seemed to compare the emergence of nationalism and presumably the rise of the nation state after the Middle Ages to the emergence of French speaking nationalism in Quebec. I believe that they are different cases entirely.

First, the nation state began to appear in Europe by the late 18th century, for example as a result of the French Revolution. (Yes, I am aware of the scholarship of the late Eugen Weber and others who discovered that there were areas of France in which the inhabitants did not view themselves as French citizens.) By World War I, most Europeans believed that they belonged to some nation.

Conversley, until the 1950s, French speaking Quebec residents viewed themselves as Canadians.

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