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If President Obama's Treasury Secretary Can't Find a Way to Save the Financial System That Doesn't Make a Small Number of People Hugely Rich, Then Maybe He Needs a New Treasury Secretary

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President Obama's team was filling the airwaves today with assurances that Congress and the American people really don't mean to crack down the multimillion dollar paychecks on Wall Street. Actually, it looks the American people, insofar as they have any voice in their government, really do want to bring an end to these multimillion dollar paychecks.

There is little evidence that the vast majority of the people receiving these paychecks possessed any skill other than ripping off the rest off society to enrich themselves. When the Obama crew tells us that their bailout scheme will cause some of these folks to get even richer on our tax dollars, and, by the way, we really can't tax away the bonuses from the AIG boys, it's hard not to get a bit angry.

It's easy to think of better plans for dealing with the banks if the real purpose is to keep the financial system working.


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It is all about maintaining the status quo, the status quo, the status quo, ad infinitum. The more things change, and in this case allegedly change we can believe in, the more they stay the same.

Disillusionment is setting in...I knew the R's are no good and unrehabilitatable but I thought there was still hope for the D's. Maybe not though...judging by Rubin, Summers, Geithner, etc.

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I think in fairness you can put Geithner, Summers and Rubin in the Republican wing of the Democratic Party. That's why I've always been for lettng the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party be in charge. Honestly, what difference is there if we elect Democrats who simply appoint people to continue Republican policies? That's all Geithner and Summers are offering us is a continuation of the great heist begun by Paulson. It is a plan of, by, and for Wall Street.

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Agreed oleeb. In their area of expertise they are well right of center ideology-wise. And they are all in denial, not willing to accept their ideology failed its crucial 'reality check' test.

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Your three musketeers are, I fear, supply-siders determined to stick to that economic alchemy in hopes that some day it'll actually work. Someone should tell them that you can't make gold out of tin, there's no elixir that can give one eternal life and supply-side theory is pure bull.

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The scary part is from what I can tell they actually believe they're King Midas and can turn horsesh*t into gold...

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Yup, it's bankruptcy. Insolvent banks and financial companies like AIG should simply be put under receivership and their creditors should be paid according to the priority they all agreed to when they made the loans. This is VERY easy. The public does not owe these institutions money but we can kindly provide them with an orderly restructuring.

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Agreed! It is very easy unless you're Geithner, et al who are wedded to a fantasy about this being a liquidity crisis. They also believe that they are working for Wall Street and don't understand at all that they are supposed to be working for the taxpayers and protecting the taxpayers first.

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I don't get Obama. He's a smart guy and yet in this area he lacks common sense. He seems to be dazzled by the financial wizards, not giving much weight that they are the very same ones who burned the house down. Why would you hire a bunch of arsonists to rebuild your house?

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Perhaps the massive financial support they provided for his campaign has just a wee bit to do with it?

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I don't agree with the idea of Obama being a smart guy. So far I see a dumb ass. I have heard him talk a lot but when it comes to really having a handle on how seriously people have been hurt by this he either doesn't get it or it's payola time for Wall Street. He has thrown taxpayers and particularly workers under the bus. We have been ripped off big time but he doesn't care. Bush lied to us and now Obama is doing the same. The only difference is Obama is much smoother.

All I really want is for the guys who screwed this up to be out of a job. They don't belong there and every minute they remain is a travesty. And that includes Geither and company. He ran the NY FED for many years while this was all happening and he didn't do a thing to stop it. You have to be a real dumb ass not to understand this. When you have an employee that performs this badly or steals from the company you have no choice but to fire him or her. What's not to understand????

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Dr. Phil?

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Well, anyway it scared the pants off Pandit the Bandit when Citi fell to 97 cents. Although I think he got over it.

He is still going ahead with the $10 million dollar remodel of his office. The best and brightest of the finance world have had to skip a few junkets to resorts and for a few months had to scale down the golf trips and lavish conferences.

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I thought G's new plan had the government getting 5/6's of any gains and the private parties getting 1/6 rich.

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Thank you Mr. Baker.

We are out of the frying pan into the fire. After the profoundly depressing Bush years, I had a short period of hope. No that hope is entirely gone. And I know from long experience that trying to communicate with my Senators and representative is a ridiculous waste of time.

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WRoss: It's time people take to the streets and make it like the Battle of Seattle in every city.

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Here's whats happening. The banks are like a dying patient on life support. Usually when a patient is dying he gives the doctor advanced directives such as DNR, Do Not Resuscitate, or no extraordinary measures to keep the body going. But this dying patient, the banks, want to stay alive as long as possible. Since Dr. Geithner is part of the financial family, he is not thinking clearly. He has an emotional attachment to the dying patient and also wants to keep the dying body alive as long as possible. Hence, Dr. Geithner is using all means at his disposable. And Obama is following the advice of his doctor. But in the end, the patient will die.

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Oh My God. Some one might get rich fixing the bad paper the government sponsored enterprises Fannie and Freddie foisted on the market. Perhaps a problem of this size requires skills not likely to be found at minimum wage. Likewise any private capital invested will be subject to both economic risk and substantial political risk (see AIG clawback).

BTW, where was your concern when Clinton chums Franklin Raines and Jamie Gorelick were making 20+ million at these government sponsored enterprises?

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fixing the bad paper the government sponsored enterprises Fannie and Freddie

Prophet, the MBS of Fannie and Freddie constitute 0% (zero percent) of the program announced today.

Starting in 2008 the Fed committed to buy Fannie and Freddie paper and plans to hold those loans to maturity.link and link

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You're terribly confused. The small number of people to get rich under Geithner's plan are not using any "skills" at all. They will be subsidized by the government --putting up as little as 3% of the equity: Geithner's plan is just Paulson's plan of having the government buy up toxic assets directly, with a 3% window dressing of private investment that directs potential eventual returns away from the taxpayer. Getting a huge loan from the government to make an investment whose risks the treasury will eat is something even a minimum wage worker--or even you--could figure out.

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Getting a huge loan from the government to make an investment whose risks the treasury will eat is something even a minimum wage worker--or even you--could figure out
Cynically, I am convinced that minimum wage workers, or even me, cannot buy tickets for this gravy train. Or, if we could hop aboard, we would still be the ones left holding the bag.

The wall street folks are geniuses in one domain--graft & fraud!

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"Perhaps a problem of this size requires skills not likely to be found at minimum wage."

You could randomly pluck a few people off the streets, and they would do a far better job than Obama's team and their pseudo-intellectual friends. Many minimum wage earners have common sense and integrity, unlike anyone in Washington or Wall Street.

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Let's see now. If the republicans get in, they would do nothing and the whole system would fall completely apart.

So now the Democrats are and they do exactly the wrong thing and the system falls completely apart. Only not as quickly.

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The system has already died. Obama is now spending trillions to embalm the corpse and insist it's still alive.

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That is the 600 pound gorilla in the room. Geithner and friends would have very hurt feelings, and lose the possibilities of huge earnings after their time in government is over, if they were to acknowledge that the patient died a few weeks ago - most of us noticed the smell, but Obama apparently has a good room deodorizer.

We have all seen the news stories about people who keep their dead relatives in the house for years after the fact, apparently just getting used to the smell. We classify those folks as mentally ill.

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The system has already died. Obama is now spending trillions to dress up the corpse and insist it's still alive.

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FROM: Obama's 'Katrina Moment'?

NY Times columnist Frank Rich boldly stated in his weekend OP-ED Column that despite being in office for only 62 days, President Barack Obama has already reached his "Katrina Moment". Saying "A charming visit with Jay Leno won’t fix it. A 90 percent tax on bankers’ bonuses won’t fix it. Firing Timothy Geithner won’t fix it. Unless and until Barack Obama addresses the full depth of Americans’ anger with his full arsenal of policy smarts and political gifts, his presidency and, worse, our economy will be paralyzed. President Obama may not realize it yet, but his Katrina moment has arrived."

But with all the Obama administration inherited from 8 years of George W. Bush, is "Katrina Moment" a fair assessment? Is it right for the country to expect quick fixes and instant miracles almost overnight, or is it more realistic for the public to be more patient?

FULL STORY: http://okwassup.blogspot.com

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Jamie Galbraith explains the newest Obama-Geithner taxpayer ripoff:

Bank sets up SPV (special purpose vehicle) funded 3% with bank funds, 97% with USG money. SPV bids on the bank's own toxic assets -- at twice what they're worth. In the end, bank loses its entire 3% investment, but ---

Bank pulls in twice as much money for the asset it sold as it was worth AND gets the bad asset off its balance sheet and prevents FDIC from taking it over.

Taxpayers lose 47%.

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Banks may game the Geithner system, for the cost of losing just 3%. The banks loan the 3% private portion to hedge funds which buy the toxic assets. The banks loss is never more than 3% (depending on bid price which could be over inflated) if the hedge fund doesn't repay anything and the assets go bust. The other 97% loss is on the taxpayer and the toxic paper has been off loaded to the government.

Galbraith thinks that banks will lend (former bailout$)money to "private investors" to buy assets from themselves, in the hopes of jacking up the prices on those assets. Once the assets are off the books, the banks can rest easy, because they won't be seized.

And because the amount they lend to the private investors will constitute only 3% of the cost of the purchase price, the taxpayer, not the banks, will ultimately end up taking the losses.

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Mr. President,

It's time for you to regain your Progressive balance. It's time for you to Nationalize the corporate institutions that are dragging our great experiment in Democracy down. It's time to impose strict discipline upon the multi-nationals that are presently vacuuming our treasury dry and shipping our national treasure overseas. The same corporotocracy that is undermining our educational system and robbing us of our most precious national resource: a free and intelligent populace that values invention and individuality over conformity and engineered obsolescence. Therein lies our greatest value to ourselves and the World.
Jettison the albatross presently chained about your neck. The Geithner plan will be your downfall. It's time you payed some serious heed to America's Nobel Prize winning economist. Paul Krugman is truly trying to help you through this minefield. Don't be too proud to take his advice or fearful to act upon it. His understanding transcends that of the gang of three that's presently mixing the quicksand your Presidency is to be mired in. Wall Street is not your Constituency. Whatever you do, don't be confused. Wall Street is not your friend. Neither is it the friend or servant of the American People. Don't become a footnote in American history. Don't become a minor cog in the machine that intends to consume you before you can effect the 'Change' America so desperately needs.

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Mr. Baker,
Your last sentence stated how easy it is to come up with a better plan. I would be interested in your plan that would both save the financial system and be something that could get through Congress.

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From early reports regarding the toxic assets plan, it appears that the Treasury envisions allowing private investors to bid for toxic mortgage securities, but only to put up about 4% of the purchase price - the remainder being "non-recourse" financing from the Fed, Treasury and FDIC. This essentially implies that the government would grant bidders a put option against 96% of whatever price is bid. This is not only an invitation for rampant moral hazard, as it would allow the financing of largely speculative and inefficently priced bids with the public bearing the cost of losses, but of much greater concern, it is a likely recipe for the insolvency of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, and represents a major end-run around Congress by unelected bureaucrats.

Next Wednesday is April 1, commonly known as "April fools" day, the following day is the G-20 summit. The "Dollar fraud" imposed on the rest of the world will not stand as the world has figured out what has happened (been done) to them collectively. The latest "TIC" data, along with the Fed announcing full blown monetization of Treasury debt is proof of this. Now we sit back and wait for one of three events that will occur virtually simultaneously.

The Dollar and U.S. Treasury bonds will begin their "farewell" waterfall dives while Gold will explode out of nowhere. These events ALWAYS occur as a sovereign nation bankrupts. Prices for goods will explode almost overnight while interest rates skyrocket as foreigners hit bid after bid offered by the Fed while saying "thank you sir may I have another?". The Fed can in no way accommodate and purchase all of the new oncoming debt that Treasury will issue, let alone buy the existing debt that foreigners are sure to be offloading. The Fed will be overwhelmed and thus the value of Dollars and Treasuries will crater.

So we have a new plan to save the system being offered today by the Treasury, and "here we go again" as Ronald Regan used to say. With debt as prevalent as it is, there is no way that the "old, bad, and rotten" debt will be reflated by issuing new debt. This is purely a numbers thing, and the numbers say that debt levels are so high and so out of whack that we are beyond reflating AND retaining a stable currency at the same time. What will happen very soon is a panic out of Treasuries which will put interest rates at unthinkable levels. The markets are rallying hard today just as the have in the past with each and every other past "plan". We will need a larger alphabet soon as we are running out of available letters with all the "plans to save the system".

As interest rates begin driving hard to the upside, what do you suppose this will do to the ticking time bomb called "commercial real estate"? This sector is multiples of sub prime, Alt-A, etc.. This sector is hanging on by a thread right now as retailers struggle to pay rent and landlords struggle to make monthly payments. Even if Treasury rates don't skyrocket (they will), Commercial real estate is the next sector to be hollowed out, not to mention credit cards. The banks are already insolvent, is there such a thing as "double secret insolvent"?

So roughly 10 days from now the world will meet in London for a "post April fools" meeting. In the past, the U.S. swung the big stick, set the agenda and made the rules. Not this time, this time the world knows that we are sick and dying. They know that the U.S. has spread its "disease" far and wide to the four corners of the earth. The world is calling for a move to stability and transparency, this is intolerable to the U.S.. Stability would mean "settlement", this can never happen using Dollars. Transparency can never happen because if we actually got to see what has really happened behind the scenes, panic would be far too passive a word for what would occur.

Please keep in mind that until the "new" currency has some kind of Gold backing or tie, paper of any kind will not be trusted. The sooner this happens, the sooner the world can start moving forward again. Imagine waking up to the banks and markets being closed, your Dollars not spending, and having sparse food supplies in your cupboard, a cruel April fools joke for sure. This is no joke, we will bare these conditions very shortly as time is running out on the borrowing ability of our Treasury. Could it be the ultimate April fools joke that we lived in a 40 year long Ponzi scheme?

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I don't think Geithner's newly announced $trillion bail-out is a much different animal than the previous "troubled" asset relief programs (different spots, maybe). In the end it's about making the quarter-slots suckers cover the house while it purposely loses to its mobster silent partners on the same rigged roulette wheel (they land on black, they win; land on red, we lose).

It’s not so much that the Barons of Wall Street will be “made whole” and enriched further with taxpayer bail-outs, as it is the fact that their lives will be spared. Okay, maybe that's too harsh, but the upper bunk in Madoff's cell is available I hear. We may not need a Robespierre (necessarily) but we do need to cut the head off this snake that is exploiting the economy by slowly eating its own tail instead of feeding it more tail.

Excuse all the hackneyed metaphors, but the system needs either a complete rebuild or to be junked, not a tune-up and a wax. How can Obama claim that overhauling health care, transportation, infrastructure, education, energy and “greening” America are part of the solution to our economic misery, but transforming the “greed-is-good” finance-fairy based economy is not?

Will the next bubble burst in, let’s say, twenty-five years be distant enough that we’ll have forgotten this one? Cuz it sure as hell didn’t take long to forget the lessons of the last one.

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The insolvent banks need to be re-organized in receivership, there is no other way to change their culture and behavior. They will still be open and operating but the charlatans who have run them can be shown the exit.

Giving them more money will rescue their leadership who got us into this, their stock and bond holders, but it will do nothing for the nations economy.

Geithner's plan will only sink this nation into deeper debt. The money would be better spent on jobs, health care reform or infrastructure, not the banking black hole.

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I'm fully with those that think the incentives in the latest Geithner idea are just plain wacked out. Might as well have had Wall St write their own get-out-of-jail-free card.

I've been a long way from the market for a long time and it didn't take much thought at all to arrive where Ellen did above. Ripe for abuse. And we know who's going to get the abuse.

What the hell is wrong with these guys? All of them. In the administration and scattered throughout the financial industry. And they are pretty much all guys.

It's time to take the gloves off and spill some blood. This is all way too clubby.

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. . . the Obama crew . . . .

Reading blogs I picked up this example of the crew's brillance -- here, the President's favorite economist opining upon the state of the housing market a short three months before two Bear Stearns hedge funds collapsed.

. . . in places where real estate bubbles have supposedly been popping . . . . Dr. Austan Goolsbee, the current staff director and chief economist of the President's Economic Recovery Advisory Board on 3/29/2007.

Nope; no bubble here; no bubble over there.

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