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Juan Cole on Responsibility for Getting Us Into Iraq

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As I wrote earlier, Juan Cole's "Engaging the Muslim World" is one assumption-transforming book.

Take the Iraq war. There are two schools of thought. One says that the Cheney oil gang manipulated us into Iraq to get their hands on the oil forever. The other argues that the Feith/Perle neocon crowd did it to take out Israel's powerful enemy.

The problem is. These two groups don't get along. The neocons always hated the oil lobby for its pro-Saudi bias. And the oil boys couldn't stand the Israel lobby for complicating US relations with the Arabs and getting Congress to put sanctions on oil dealings with various anti-Israel potentates.

So how, in the end, did they come together to push one disastrous war?

Who can we thank for this unfortunate friendship?

Cole's answer: Dick Cheney.

Not sympathetic to Israel, but well-aware of the lobby's power, he decided that if he joined efforts with the neocons, his big oil pals would be the winners.

So he intentionally set out to court the neocons to convince them that both Israel and the oil companies would be the winners if we took out Saddam. Coming to office in January 2001, he brought the top neocons into the administration and counted on their friends in the media to help him make the case for war. Then came 9/11 and all systems were go.

Juan Cole writes: "While Zionist organizations and their members, especially rightwing ones, played a prominent role in getting up the war, they could not have done so had not Bush and Cheney, both close to the US petroleum corporations and to the oil monarchies of the Gulf, not agreed with them. The Israel lobbies do bear important blame for the war in another way: their insistence on keeping Iraq and Iran under tight sanctions frustrated the US petroleum companies at a time when discoveries of new fields slowed, when it had become clear that successful competition for oil would become more crucial and difficult, and when it was known that Iran and Iraq had enormous untapped reserves."

And thus was born the unholy alliance.

Typical Cole. You want simple answers, don't look here. But if you want the facts, he's your go-to guy.


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Neither school of thought is correct.

Cheney's oil connections have nothing to do with owning oil; and everything to do with providing infrastructure/equipment/services to entities that do own the oil. Cheney's ties with Rumsfeld go back to the Nixon Administration. Rumsfeld's corporate ties run deep, yet again, little if any are related to actual oil ownership. Rumsfeld has deep corporate ties to defense contractors and energy services corps, among many others. Cheney's motivation for supporting the War Upon Iraq along these lines, should be viewed more from the perspective of a revolving door crony capitalist, than one who waged war for oil, but that too is only a gloss that does not reach the complexity.

Neoconservatives do view Israel as their second flag, yet there is a wide dispersion in Neoconservatives' view of the Arab world in general. Pipes views Muslims in general, and Arabs specifically, as an ultimate enemy of western civilization, whereas Wolfowitz tends to view the problem more along the lines of Democratic/Authoritarian governments. Just saying that Neocons do not like Saudi Arabia doesn't reach deep enough into the varied causes for their dislike.

Saudi Arabia's and Kuwait's rulers detested Saddam Hussein, and they feared his pan-Arab dictatorial world view as a threat to their divine right to rule. Both countries were not going to shed any tears if the Baathists in Iraq were deposed, although both also feared and fear the Rising of The Shia Dawn, and increased regional power exerted by Iran. The Sauds may have believed that a war in Iraq could serve as an escape valve for some of their most revolutionary citizens to go Jihad in, instead of the Kingdom. The Saudi and Kuwaiti Princes care only about the perpetuation of their own monarchical rule.

Cheney's relationships with neoconservatives dates back at least to the Ford Administration, and Team B, which was implemented by then CIA Director GHW Bush. After Clinton was elected president, Cheney was a member of the American Enterprise Institute, the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs, and a founding member of the Project for the New American Century.

The interrelationships are multi-threaded, and cannot be properly separated into two simplistic schools of thought.

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Nice response.

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HOLD ON. I didn't mean to post this. It was just a draft that I started.

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MJ.

It's ok that you posted your draft. Please just edit it instead of deleting it as we would lose PsuedoCyAnts excellent post on the subject.

It's important to understand the different parts of the petroleum sector in order to get the big picture. Usually, they are lumped together which distorts the understanding of who the actual players are. Those who actually own the rights to oil reserves are known as the "upstream" portion of the industry. Those aligned with Cheney et al are the "midstream/downstream" actors.

The upstream boys were NOT in favor of the Iraq adventure; Chalabi endeavored to entice their support with promises of future contracts but was unsucessful. No other group knows more about the ME than these folks; their decades of hands-on experience favors stability and cutting deals with whomever. (A long-time DC petroleum lobbyist poster once told me that they paid protection money to Osama bin Laden in order to do unmolested bidness in the region).

As I've said over and over, the Israelis were not pushing for an attack on Iraq; their self-appointed American champions were, in the belief that the way to Tehran led through Baghdad. Iran was and still is the primary target. This is not to say that Sharon didn't help out in the efforts, he did. Much of the distorted intel on Saddam's bio/chem and missile capabilities was forwarded to the adminstration's prime movers then circulated to our coaltion partners to become part of the "everybody thought Saddam had WMDs" mantra. It's important to note that the info on the Israeli contribution to building the casus belli has come from Israeli, not American, sources.

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Thank you for advocating for that, lally! I too was worried about losing PCA's excellent post!

Blessings upon you!

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That's my understanding...

"...the Israelis were not pushing for an attack on Iraq; their self-appointed American champions were, in the belief that the way to Tehran led through Baghdad...

Israel urged US to attack Iran - not Iraq
By Gareth Porter [Aug 30, 2007]

"...This is not to say that Sharon didn't help out in the efforts, he did. Much of the distorted intel on Saddam's bio/chem and missile capabilities was forwarded to the adminstration's prime movers then circulated to our coaltion partners to become part of the "everybody thought Saddam had WMDs" mantra...

The spies who pushed for war
By Julian Borger [Jul 17, 2003]

"...It's important to note that the info on the Israeli contribution to building the casus belli has come from Israeli, not American, sources...

With help with 'Israel Lobby' over here:

American Enterprise Institute & WINEP Involvement [Michael Rubin]
Right Web Research links

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Well before PNAC, from Libby's Wikipedia page:

"Libby co-authored the draft of the Defense Planning Guidance for the 1994–99 fiscal years (dated February 18, 1992) with Wolfowitz for Dick Cheney, who was then Secretary of Defense."

"After the 1991 Persian Gulf War, Wolfowitz and his then-assistant Scooter Libby wrote the Wolfowitz Doctrine to "set the nation’s direction for the next century." At that time the official administration line was "containment", and the contents of Wolfowitz’s plan calling for "preemption" and "unilateralism" which was opposed by Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Colin Powell and President Bush. Defense Secretary Cheney produced a revised plan released in 1992."

I guess GHWB and Jim Baker fit your oil category, and Cheney transcended that even when he was Sec Def.

Another possible angle to the collaboration is the CFR:

"Between 1987 and 1989, during his last term in Congress, Cheney was a director of the Council on Foreign Relations foreign policy organization."

During 1996, while [Maurice "Hank"] Greenberg was deputy chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), he chaired the CFR task force on intelligence, which published "Making Intelligence Smarter: The future of U.S. Intelligence."

This report mostly served to exhibit Greenberg's access to the intelligence community; but he parlayed it into a nomination by Senator Arlen Specter and others, for Greenberg to be Director of the CIA.

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My fellow Vietnam Veteran Daniel Ellsberg put the matter quite succinctly many years ago now:

"The U.S. invaded Iraq for three reasons: Oil, Israel, and Domestic Political Advantage."

Each of these three motivations, naturally, requires a subsidiary expansion to fill in the ugly details. Those with a good grasp of painfully obvious current-events history will know how to do this.

As for the transparently ludicrous, trotted-out propaganda rationales -- one can't, in good conscience, call them "reasons" -- sold to a willingly gullible American population, I like to summarize as follows:

"We Americans invaded Iraq to dethrone a dicator we did not fear so as to deprive him of weapons he did not possess in retaliation for an attack upon us in which he did not participate."

Or, as flat-earth pundit Tom Friedman of the New York Times put it: "Hey, Muslims! Suck. On. This!" ... "We had to hit somebody."

Heads need examining for those who credulously assume that the United States of America -- a.k.a., the Lunatic Leviathan -- acts from either rational interest or informed consent of the governed. For, as simply and clearly as the late, great Barbara Tuchman put it in her classic March of Folly (updated for generational generality):

"The American government react[s] not to [foreign upheavals or national-liberation movements] but to intimidation by the rabid right at home [in the Apartheid Zionist Entity] and to the public dread of ["Commun-/Terror-ism] that this play[s] on and reflects. ... [I]n the social and psychological sources of that dread ... lie the roots of American policy in [IraqNamIstan]."

Yes, I think that about covers "why" the Lunatic Leviathan does just about anything -- and poorly at that.

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I like your reasoning.

One point that I have always found illuminating is that I think Rumsfeld committed the sin of Truth-telling when he described the invasion of Iraq as an exercise in "Shock and Awe." I think he and many Neocons like Kristol thought that the Muslims were not sufficiently in awe of American military power because they believed we were too tied down by the "Vietnam Syndrome" to use our military strength to get what we wanted. We just needed to use our military to show we could and would do so.

The invasion of Iraq on one level was assumed to be a demonstration that the "Vietnam Syndrome" did not control the new guys in Washington, and that we would be perfectly happy to use our military power on anyone who was not quickly falling in line with the American line. So we invaded a mostly militarily prostate enemy we had previously easily defeated just to show that we could and would do it.

As an ex-military professional I remain rather proud of the planning, preparation and execution of the aspects of the invasion of Iraq which were entirely in the jurisdiction of the Army. Unfortunately, those aspect of the invasion that were in the bailiwick of the White House to coordinate and execute were uniformly conducted with the grace and ability of the Keystone kops on a bad day doing a Bush admin rescue of New Orleans after Katrina. The National Security Adviser should have pulled those things together and made them happen, but as near as I can tell, Condi Rice was unaware that she needed to do anything except watch the military perform, and if she knew otherwise, Rumsfeld was unwilling to share a bit to coordinate with other outside agencies like State, the Intelligence Community, etc.

The first real giveaway was when the Turks had the US Northern strike force sitting in ships in the Eastern Med and wouldn't let them land and cross Turkish territory to invade Iraq from the North. This was a total failure of internal coordination within the US government above the Pentagon. Either State should have gotten the permissions to invade through Turkey, or the Pentagon should have known not to put the task force up there in the first place. This obvious failure reflects clearly on Condi Rice and on Bush himself.

Then there were the utterly incompetent efforts to set up civil government in Iraq when the combat was essentially over. See Jay Garner's government and the Chalabi fiascoes.

To make a long story short, instead of the invasion of Iraq being a demonstration of shock and awe to be used to intimidate our Mid East enemies, it became a demonstration of conservative Keystone Kops incompetence at the arts of governance. (I may be severely insulting the Keystone Kops.)

Cheney clearly to this very day does not realize this. I need not even mention Bush himself, of course. He didn't know and couldn't be bothered to learn about it, if anyone in his entourage of conservatives and draft dodger knew enough themselves to inform him he needed to step in.

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You needed to say: "Cheney clearly to this very day does not realize this. I need not even mention Bush himself, of course. He didn't know and couldn't be bothered to learn about it, if anyone in his entourage of conservatives and draft dodger knew enough themselves to inform him he needed to step in."

This should be the first paragraph of your next post, with the topic: Just who will write Bush's first book? Will it be Condi, Karen, and Laura? Pearle and Darth with chapters by Wolfie and Rummy? Having read all of the books W. said he did, Turd Blossum must be the editor. (His take comes from the Cliff Notes version the president will read.) Because they need someone who can write a coherent sentence, Gerson will ghostwrite the entire thing.

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The U.S. invaded Iraq because Rove told W it would help him get elected (re-selected) and Congressional Democrats, never missing a chance to be rank self-immolating cowards, obliged.

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Does he mention in the book that he wasn't strongly against the invasion at the time, but had "mixed feelings" about it? As I recall, his arguments prior to and during the beginning of the invasion were more about how the Bush administration didn't seem to be aware of how difficult it would be, not that he thought it would be a bad idea if done properly. He had great sympathy for the anti-Saddam movement in Iraq. His advice, when I was looking for it prior to the invasion, was similar to the Thomas Friedman "be aware Bushies, if you broke it, you bought it, it might work but you better do it right" approach.

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Reminds me that one of the biggest war cheerleaders, Andrew Sullivan, now pushes the neocons=Israel narrative. Guess those crafty fellas over at the Israel Lobby fooled Sullivan.

When I read this along with the Weiss piece, I had around a dozen other plausible factors that contributed to the US decision to invade Iraq. But people will believe what they want to believe - it's not an argument worth having. Pretty depressing, in fact.

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I should say that I like to read him on the interior politics of Mideast countries outside of I/P, on religious concepts like Takfiri and Salafism, and on Islamic terrorist incidents in the west. His blog is also especially helpful on Arabic-language news since he reads a lot of it, especially as some leaders in the area have a habit of saying one thing on a topic to the English-language press and something quite different in Arabic. Like with any professor, I don't have to agree with his take on American politics and foreign policy to gain the benefits of his research.

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MJ, I am strongly in your camp when it comes to the Middle East, but I am not a fan of Juan Cole's. This was in Salon yesterday, in an excerpt from his new book:


"A pan-Arab London daily alleged recently that Iran gives Hizbullah $400 million a year and that, in the 18 months ending in December 2007, Tehran had transferred $1.5 billion extra to the Shiite party to help with war and reconstruction costs. The first estimate is at the higher range of what U.S. diplomatic sources have asserted to the press, suggesting that Iran has been sending $20 million to $40 million a month to Hizbullah. Others say that these estimates are too high, though no one denies that Iranian money comes into Lebanon. Some of the donations pay for the katyusha rockets that Hizbullah uses to deter another Israeli attack. But much of the funding is used to provide hospital care and other services."


Hizbullah uses Katyusha rockets to deter an Israeli attack? What planet is Cole living on? The man's entitled to his opinions, of course, but not his own facts. The Salon excerpt (the entire piece, which, among other things, features only one war crimes criminal--Israel) persuades me that Cole is an Israel hater, and I for one am not going to give the book a read.

IMHO, Cole's not much of a prose stylist, either.

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Thinking of Cole the words tedious and tendentious come to mind.

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I'll comment. Professor Cole lives on planet earth. What Land of Fable do you hail from? You took one paragraph out of a two page excerpt from Professor Juan Cole's "Engaging the Muslim world" published at Salon on March 17, 2009, and didn't even have the guts to post a URL for it.. Then you yanked that completely out of context, so it would fit in your misportrayal of what he wrote, but even that was not enough distortion for you. Additionally, you had to go and intimate that the 2006 Israeli invasion of Southern Lebanon had something to do with Hizbullah launching Katyusha rockets into Israel, instead of what really precipitated the warfare: two asleep at the wheel Israeli soldiers, who were captured by Hizbullah soldiers on a cross border incursion, but that would not justify your assertion that Hizbullah somehow should be viewed as equals with Israel on the War Criminal scale.

In response to Israel's relentless attacks in Lebanon, Hizbullah's leader, Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah, on Sunday showed only cool nerve, determined commitment and unwavering resolve. This only goes to show that Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's handling of what could have been a confined crisis is doing nothing to deter Hizbullah, and has only succeeded in pushing the entire region closer to an all-out war. Instead of addressing the root causes of the regional conflict, the Israeli premier is responding to a crisis with unprecedented escalation. Olmert's - and Washington's - line is that Israel is defending itself in Gaza and in Lebanon, but we have seen that each disproportionate act of "self-defense" amounts to a provocation that only puts more and more Arab - and Israeli - lives at risk.
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The Israelis do have a right to "defend themselves," but defense cannot be achieved through indiscriminate warfare. Surely, there must be a more effective way to protect the lives of Israeli citizens, one that will guarantee a long-term peace instead of a short-term victory. The best way would be to cut this region's Gordian Knot and conclude Arab-Israeli conflicts through comprehensive peace deals. But instead of doing that, the Israelis are drawing the knot even tighter through escalation. In doing so, they are leaving the entire world entangled in a cyclical pattern of violence in which no city - from Gaza and Beirut to Haifa, Washington, New York and beyond- will be safe from retribution.

Editorial, "Israel's action threatens to reopen moral vacuum of war years", The Daily Star, July 17, 2006

The United States and Israel have initially agreed to wait one week, while the pounding of Hezbollah targets continues, before seeking a buffer zone and an international force in southern Lebanon, The New York Times said Wednesday.
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US and American officials told the daily that the Israeli-US consensus called for another week of pounding Hezbollah targets to downgrade the militant's group's military capabilities.

Agence France Presse (AFP), "US, Israel agree to wait before world steps in Lebanon: report", The Daily Star, July 19, 2006

Israel switched gears in its military campaign against Lebanon Monday and Tuesday, launching a series of debilitating air strikes against privately owned factories throughout the country and dealing a devastating blow to an economy already paralyzed by a week of hits on residential areas and crucial infrastructure.

The production facilities of at least five companies in key industrial sectors - including the country's largest dairy farm, Liban Lait; a paper mill; a packaging firm and a pharmaceutical plant - have been disabled or completely destroyed. Industry insiders say the losses will cripple the economy for decades to come.

Lysandra Ohrstrom, "Latest targets of air blitz: milk and medicine", The Daily Star, July 19, 2006

At least 55 civilians were killed and scores wounded in a series of deadly Israeli raids across Lebanon Wednesday in the deadliest day since the bombardment began one week ago.

A total of 310 people, mostly civilians, have been killed and hundreds injured since the start of Israel's offensive in Lebanon.
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Israeli forces have also been targeting trucks in various parts of Lebanese regions since the Jewish state launched a massive offensive after the Lebanese Shiite militant Hezbollah group captured two soldiers last Wednesday.

Jihad Siqlawi-AFP, "55 killed in deadliest day of Israeli raids on Lebanon", The Daily Star, July 19, 2006

Where did this Israeli incursion into Lebanon lead? To what was widely viewed on both sides of the conflict as an Israeli defeat.
From this hill village in the south of the country, I am watching the clouds of brown and black smoke rising from its latest disaster in the Lebanese town of Bint Jbeil: up to 13 Israeli soldiers dead, and others surrounded, after a devastating ambush by Hizbollah guerrillas in what was supposed to be a successful Israeli military advance against a "terrorist centre" .

To my left smoke rises too, over the town of Khiam, where a smashed United Nations outpost remains the only memorial to the four UN soldiers - most of them decapitated by an American-made missile on Tuesday - killed by the Israeli air force.

Indian soldiers of the UN army in southern Lebanon, visibly moved by the horror of bringing their Canadian, Fijian, Chinese and Austrian comrades back in at least 20 pieces from the clearly marked UN post next to Khiam prison, left their remains at Marjayoun hospital yesterday.

In past years, I have spent hours with their comrades in this UN position, which is clearly marked in white and blue paint, with the UN's pale blue flag opposite the Israeli frontier. Their duty was to report on all they saw: the ruthless Hizbollah missile fire out of Khiam and the brutal Israeli response against the civilians of Lebanon.

Is this why they had to die, after being targeted by the Israelis for eight hours, their officers pleading to the Israeli Defense Forces that they cease fire? An American-made Israeli helicopter saw to that.

In Bint Jbeil, meanwhile, another bloodbath was taking place. Claiming to " control" this southern Lebanese town, the Israelis chose to walk into a Hizbollah trap. The moment they reached the deserted marketplace, they were ambushed from three sides, their soldiers falling to the ground under sustained rifle fire. The remaining Israeli troops - surrounded by the "terrorists" they were supposed to liquidate - desperately appealed for help, but an Israeli Merkava tank and other vehicles sent to help them were also attacked and set on fire. Up to 17 Israeli soldiers may have died so far in this disastrous operation.

The battle for southern Lebanon is on an epic scale but, from the heights above Khiam, the Israelis appear to be in deep trouble. Their F-16s turn in the high bright sun - small, silver fish whose whispers gain in volume as they dive - and their bombs burst over the old prison, where the Hizbollah are still holding out; beyond the frontier, I can see livid fires burning across the Israeli hillsides and the Jewish settlement of Metullah billowing smoke.

It was not meant to be like this, 15 days into Israel's assault on Lebanon. The Katyushas still streak in pairs out of southern Lebanon, clearly visible to the naked eye, white contrails that thump into Israeli's hillsides and border towns.

So is it frustration or revenge that keeps Israel's bombs falling on the innocent? In the early hours two days ago, a tremendous explosion woke me up, rattling the windows and shaking the trees outside, and a single flash suffused the western sky over Nabatiyeh.

The lives of an entire family of seven had just been extinguished.

And how come - since this now obsesses the humanitarian organizations working in Lebanon - that the Israelis bombed two ambulances in Qana, killing two of the three wounded inside. All the crews were injured - one with a piece of shrapnel in his neck - but what worried the Lebanese Red Cross was that the Israeli missiles had pierced the very centre of the red cross painted on the roof of each vehicle. Did the pious use the cross as their aiming point?

Robert Fisk, "A Warning to Israel - Smoke Signals from the Battle of Bint Jbeil", Counter Punch, July 28, 2006

Israeli warplanes seeking to destroy Hezbollah rocket launchers blasted a group of houses in a southern Lebanese village Sunday, killing more than 50 people, most of them women and children, according to Lebanese officials and on-scene interviews by Lebanese television reporters.
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The village that was hit, Qana, lies about 15 miles inland from Tyre, in the rocky border hills where Hezbollah, a militant Shiite Muslim movement, has earned widespread support among the largely Shiite population. Qana was the site of another mass killing of 106 civilians by Israeli missile fire 10 years ago -- that one at a U.N. observer post -- during an earlier round of fighting between Israel and Hezbollah.

In response to reports about the strike on Qana, a spokeswoman for Israel's military said the target was a site used to launch rockets into Israel and blamed the deaths on Hezbollah.

Edward Cody, Robin Wright and Jonathan Finer, "At Least 50 Killed in Israeli Air Strike", Washington Post, July 30, 2006

And just how did Israel's miserable 2006 military failure in Lebanon work out?
American political leaders watched with alarm during the past week as the Hezbollah militia laid siege to the U.S.-backed Lebanese government, but few would acknowledge publicly what most analysts and politicians here say is obvious: American policy may bear much of the blame.

Many in Beirut say that U.S. failure to stop Israel's onslaught against Hezbollah last summer crippled the Lebanese government - a U.S. ally - while strengthening Hezbollah - a U.S. enemy. That created an environment in which the Shiite Muslim militia could call for overthrowing Sunni Muslim Prime Minister Fuad Saniora and his Cabinet.

"Hezbollah has more support in the population now because they are the `victorious resistance,'" Cabinet member Ahmed Fatfat said. "And it weakened the government because we did not get any concessions ... the last war was a disaster for Lebanon and the image of the United States."
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The fighting began in July when Hezbollah kidnapped two Israeli soldiers, an act that began weeks of thunderous Israeli bombing and artillery barrages - often using munitions bought from U.S. suppliers - that killed at least 1,000 Lebanese, mostly civilians. Hezbollah answered by launching hundreds of rockets into Israel.

Saniora pleaded with American officials to intervene, but for weeks Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and others said there first must be a "durable solution," meaning primarily that Hezbollah had to be contained and then disarmed.

As the fighting stretched on for more than a month and the Bush administration didn't intervene, Saniora looked ineffectual, a nearly unforgivable sin in a region in which military force and political strength are often synonymous.
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Hezbollah officials have harped on the Lebanese government's reliance on U.S. help at a time when American policy makers weren't putting pressure on Israel to stop its aerial bombardment.

"It's no coincidence that all those who supported Israel in the war are today supporting what remains of this falling government," Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah said Thursday night via video feed to a cheering crowd of thousands.

"Does any Lebanese accept ... supporting a government that George Bush and (Israeli Prime Minister) Ehud Olmert support?" he asked.

The sea of men, women and children booed and screamed for the government's downfall.

Asked for comment, a representative at the U.S. Embassy in Beirut referred a McClatchy reporter to remarks by Rice last summer in which she said any peace deal had to ensure that Lebanon didn't return to its "status quo," again meaning that Hezbollah must be brought under control.

But Hezbollah now appears more in control than ever.

Tom Lasseter, "Analysts: U.S. at root of effort to topple Lebanese government", McClatchy Washington Bureau, December 07, 2006

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I have a really simple answer that appears not to have occurred to those who seem so eager to lay the blame on Israel, or the Israeli Lobby.

Why don't we start with George W. Bush as responsible for getting us into the Iraq war? Why don't we look at his VP and Cabinet: Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice and Powell (those easily-manipulated, spineless Israel-firsters)? Why don't we look at the American people who elected Bush and who supported the war by a fairly substantial margin, enough to merit a second term?

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Stop conflating Israel with the Israeli Lobby. It's anti-semetic to do so. Same goes for conflating Jews and Zionists.

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You've lost me there?

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Bush acted like a puppet. The Cheney neocons part of the "the crazies" -- we all knew what their plans were -- that's why we talk about Clean Break and PNAC. However, may of us expected more from the Democrats, more from the Democratic Israel-Firsters that should have known that war in Iraq would have made Israel less safe, less secure.

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Professor Cole's analysis makes sense, but let's not forget about "Gog and and Magog":

BUSH TO CHIRAC - “Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East"

FROM THE ARTICLE "When God Spoke to Me":  .....During those private interviews, Jacque Chirac had purportedly confessed to the journalist some personal remarks regarding the faith of George W. Bush that seemed quite daunting. He told the journalist that the latter called him twice beseeching him basically, in the name of their common “spiritual faith”, i.e., “Christianity”, to join the collective effort of the coalition being formed to wage a preemptive war against Iraq. In his first telephonic call he reportedly said to Jacque Chirac: “Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East” and then added that “the biblical prophecies are being fulfilled”.....

ENTIRE ARTICLE -
http://www.palestinechronicle.com/view_article_details.php?id=14890

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I want to thank MJ again for saying what he is saying and doing what he is doing. Thanks MJ !

I have a lot of respect for Juan and his blog, I haven't read his new book and I may not. Not because I don't think he knows what he is talking about but because I am sick and tired of the whole bloody f'ing mess.

Is it not obvious that the Iraq war was a premeditated lie!?? That has been kept going to serve the original and ongoing lies that serve somebody or something??

Who or what has been served by the war? For sure the American military industrial/intelligence complex has the biggest budgets ever. Who needs to have enemies? What group needs to see ongoing threats?

For sure Saddam Hussein, the great friend of the Palestinians has been destroyed. Who does this serve?

It has been obvious to me for several years now that there is a conspiracy. Isn't it obvious to you too? Naming the conspiracy is risky but it is there. Most of us know this, we are just afraid to deal with the knowledge, or we don't know how to deal with it. There are people,groups, who are playing with it, playing off of it, taking advantage of it. The conspiracy is only possible because we are afraid to be called names and it serves many different groups. I think the US government (and others) have been infiltrated at the highest levels also the military and especially the intelligence community (which is so secret) and benefits so much. Some of these people are guilty of sedition and treason and should be locked away.
This issue needs to be talked about even more than it is now. And more openly at higher levels.

We had a relatively free press once, we took it for granted. It is gone.

I don't know that we ever have had a truly democratic government, un-influenced by anti-democratic money. We sure don't now.

What is next?


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"The U.S. invaded Iraq for three reasons: Oil, Israel, and Domestic Political Advantage" is the easier, most complete explanation.


But "The U.S. invaded Iraq because Rove told W it would help him get elected (re-selected) and Congressional Democrats, never missing a chance to be rank self-immolating cowards, obliged.
Posted by PTroub" is the true answer! Small mind George was easily led into this "slam dunk" by Rove. All the others just piled on. It was all about the 2004 election and being better than daddy.

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OR as good as Daddy, since Daddy was ONCE ELECTED president. Remember Willie Horton and lip-reading?.

2000 was the selection (by Naderite Hanging Chads in Florida as interpreted by Long "John" Clarence Thomas).

2004 was the (single) election (by Intelligent Design, Inc).

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