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Does Cheney Want a Terror Attack on America?

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From the first days of the Obama administration, then neocons, led by Godfather Dick Cheney, have been warning that President Obama is not only putting in place policies that will destroy the economy but also will produce another 9/11.

So does the neocon gang want disaster to strike America.? The answer is obvious. After all, what else does Rush Limbaugh mean when he says he prays for Obama's failure?

It is worth pointing out how different Democrats are. After 9/11, I knew no one who did not line up and support George Bush, even though we hated him for stealing the election. I flew (I'm almost ashamed to say this now) a half dozen flags at my house for a full year.

But that is how it always was in this country until the Bush-Cheney neocons changed the rules of the game. They hate this country (bunch of immigrants, dark skins and mongrels that we are). I remember that before 9/11, Bush did everything he could to "talk down" the still booming Clinton economy to pave the way for tax cuts for their friends. Then came 9/11, and all their dreams were answered.

These are the most unpatriotic people ever to serve in any administration ever. Why is the administration not allowing Sen. Leahy to begin those hearings on Bush 43's responsibility for virtually all our nation's problems? They act like a fifth column. And attention needs paying.

Or is accountability nonexistent in this country?


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By all means, start the hearings. But given the lack of spine demonstrated by so many in Congress on virtually every matter of substance, something more is needed. Are there any provisions allowing the international court in the Hague to accept petitions from aggrieved citizens of a country that has been run by international criminals like Bush, Cheney and crew to initiate an international investigation of said criminals' international crimes? Maybe an international criminal investigation of these monsters would shame our own worthies into action, though I suspect I'm according them too much credit.

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Does Cheney Want a Terror Attack on America?

Yes.
This has been another episode of simple answers to simple questions.

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One can say that maybe Cheney really just frets so much over this issue that he is pissing his pants. Or in Colin Powell's words, the former has got the fever. *Maybe*.

But I don't believe any thinking person can seriously doubt that you are right at least about Limbaugh. He wouldn't be overjoyed to report on an attack during Obama's watch? Hell, it would be one of the best days of he misanthrope's life! And that, as you say, is really, really unpatriotic. I had friends in those buildings in 2001. They didn't die, but it was one black day. And he'd love to see it happen again, you are absolutely right.

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I think we all should remind Cheney, the creep, that they didn't exactly keep us safe on their watch. That doesn't get said enough.

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Not that I necessarily disagree that a new terror attack would cause these guys to start chortling. We've seen how, unlike the Democrats after 9/11, who basically let Bush have whatever he wanted, the Republicans don't believe in supporting the president in a time of crisis.

But all this is less interesting than a more fundamental question: why hasn't there been a major terror attack in the US since 9/11? It can't be because the policies of the Bush Administration were so effective. It is simply too easy to mount an attack for ANY policy short of a totalitarian lockdown to have much of an effect. Just in the last few years there have been rampage shootings in Virginia Tech and more recently in Alabama. What is to stop an al Qaeda type from purchasing a machine gun, walking into a crowded place and gunning down 50 people? Nothing.

The only conclusion to draw from the lack of follow-on incidents after 9/11 is that there are simply not as many people willing to perpetrate terririst acts living in the US than we assumed. Some of that is almost certainly due to heightened immigration controls, so they don't get into this country. But a lot of it is due to the fact that there aren't that many people who do these things to begin with.

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My guess, based on what we already seen of Al Qaeda, is that Al Qaeda is patiently waiting for opportunities to one-up the atrocities of 9-11 using their relatively meager resources.

We know they are patient because it was, what, nine years between the first WTC bombing and the second attack. I believe they have said words to the effect that the U.S. is an elephant who won't feel a sting unless it's large, so we know they have high ambition. Machine gunning people at a mall would amount to little more than standard U.S. domestic violence - that's a sad realization. We also know they have relatively meager operational resources, 9-11 was perpetrated by only 19 men with BOX CUTTERS! Let's keep perspective, Al Qaeda is not the Russians nor the Chinese.

Given Al Qaeda's limited operational capabilities, high ambitions, and great patience it doesn't surprise me we haven't seen anything of them here since 9-11. Their ambition and their patience are what make them so dangerous.

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Not sure I agree with this. An al Qaeda-linked machine gun incident would be a huge, huge deal. But it is just one example. A suicide bombing would surely get the attention of all Americans. How hard do you think that would be to pull off? Not very, if you ask me.

It's possible that there are sleeper cells in the US biding their time, but you would think that given the heightened counter-terrorism resources, such an approach would lessen the chances of success. The longer they wait, the greater the chance something will give the game away.

I still think the most likely explanation is that there are just fewer of these guys than we think. Not that it's a reason to relax, mind you.

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Brad:

"A suicide bombing would surely get the attention of all Americans. How hard do you think that would be to pull off? Not very, if you ask me."

We agree on that point. It wouldn't be very hard to pull off. Where we seem to differ is that I feel the reason they haven't done so is because it wouldn't be spectacular enough - in their minds. Not because they don't have the manpower in place here. Pulling off such minor mayhem doesn't really require more than a single person, as the Uni-bomber proved. Al Qaeda has essentially said that they want their next attack to exceed the impact of 9-11.

From a threat assessment perspective, all of that marks Al Qaeda, IMO, as a low-probability, high-consequences threat. Which means that they are unlikely to succeed but would be very damaging if they ever did.

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You may be right - who the hell knows?

But I have to ask why there have been so many other less-than-totally-spectacular events elsewhere in the world. Are they reserving their best stuff for us? Seems unlikely.

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I think so. Which is not to say that it also isn't more difficult to pull something together here than over there. Now that the government has been taking the threat seriously, unlike just before 9-11.

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Accountability is not well-served by a two-party system in which one party worships hypocritical ignorance and the other waffling spinelessness. With a larger majority than the Republicans needed to impeach Clinton for oral sex with an intern, Democrats in Congress rubberstamped Bush and Cheney's disasters every time they had a chance to. In theory "progressives" might have exerted an effective counter-pressure, but when it comes organizing popular support, they are mired in dumbed-down political correctness and the worship of irrelevancy. Now all hopes are pinned on Obama. He may indeed be the best leader than Democrats have had since 1960s but he is still a mortal human, not a god. The road to Accountability is hundreds of miles long, and too many Americans are skipping ropes in circles within the first hundred yards.

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Cheney has done everything from authorizing the military to shoot down the 9-11 flight heading to D.C. (without authorization from Bush), to the torturing of prisoners (probably with authorization from Bush), to allegedly ordering foreign assignations (who knows). Here, I've been under the silly and obviously mistaken impression that the Constitution only grants the Vice President the power to break tie votes in the Senate.

The MSM is complicit in the Republican fifth column effort you state. John King, for example, didn't ask Cheney any tough questions and only served to provide Cheney a broadcast platform to spew more neocon propaganda. The news media is in need of strong anti-trust action, as is the financial industry. The consolidation which has taken place since Reagan (in both industries) has produced diseased inbred offspring. President Obama, break them down in to smaller more independent entities!


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allegedly ordering foreign assignations

Now that is indeed an abuse of power!

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TYPO CORRECTION: ...assassinations.

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Watch Bush's Transportation Secretary inadvertently describe Cheney giving the stand down order to allow "Flight 77" to hit the Pentagon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTdAkhd6Dcw

It was never mentioned in the 9/11 Commission Report, whose Chairman confessed was setup to fail.

The Commission was actually run behind the scenes by Philip Zelicow, a co-author of a book with Condi Rice, and an author of the Bush Doctrine before 9/11.

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Watch the excellent documentary "Press for Truth," about the 9/11 widows who fought tooth and nail to get the Commission created, and got Kissinger removed as Chairman after they asked him if he had clients by the name of bin Laden.

These women are heroes!

And they were disgusted with the commission.

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Accountability is non-existent in this country.

-- ARG

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"virtually all our nation's problems"

Bush caused 'em all, huh? Man, whose Kool-Aid have YOU been drinking?

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You're right. Eliminate the "virtually" and you've got it just right.

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Dick Cheney speaks. Lynne Cheney faints.

Coinky dink?

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Apparently there has been no serious outside support for Leahy's proposed Commission, which is the only possibility on deck right now. No one is asking for letters to Senators -- putting up petitions, and all the rest. We seem to be acting as if the perfect is enemy of the good, because no significant liberal or progressive group seems to want to take the step, and try to light a fire under Leahy's proposal.

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Rumor has it that Goebbels also proudly said that there had been no further attacks on the Reichstag after Hitler was in office and responsible for the defense of the Fatherland.

Cheney likes his deceptive propaganda 'narratives' to be repeatedly drilled into peoples' heads like high powered advertising ---- but he doesn't want others to up-set his delusions with ‘counter-narratives’ that teach American's more accurate analogies.

The Dems have been playing a ‘Vichy’ government for so long on TV, and become so intimidated and gutless, that they generally won’t offer serious ‘counter-narratives’ to proto-fascist lies. But today, Gibbs and Hagle took “one small step for Democrats and (hopefully) one giant leap for mankind.”

Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine

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