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Top Iran Scholar on What's Next: We're Back to Square One PLUS Chas Freeman Critics Fail To Change The Subject

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Trita Parsi is probably the best Iran expert in Washington and certainly the best on the US/Iran/Israel nexus.

He's usually optimistic. In fact, Parsi has believed for years that a Grand Deal between the three countries that solved all the outstanding issues between them (nukes,Hezbollah,recognition of the Iranian regime, recognition of Israel,etc) was not only possible, it was within reach until Bush and Rice ignored Iran's quasi-outstretched hand in 2003.

Anyway, Parsi is not optimistic now. He believes that the recent constellation of events are leading back to square one and even to an Israeli attack on Iran.

It's all here.

Meanwhile, Ben Smith's blog in Politico ("must reading" here in DC) reports that the folks trying to defeat Chas Freeman's appointment are trying hard to switch the ostensible reason for their dislike of him from Israel policy to Chinese human rights. It's not working.

It's amusing really. The whole anti-Freeman effort was engineered by the people who fear that Obama will abandon current policies toward Israel from acceptance of the occupation to forceful opposition to it (starting with settlements). Every person involved in rounds 1 and 2 of the anti-Freeman attack are associated with a hardline on Israel.

They are entitled.

But now, in round 3, having failed with that line of attack, they are focusing on his views of China, which they have simplified (an ellipsis is a wonderful tool) to the point of caricature.

But here's the thing? Why is it that these people who are so concerned about China all of a sudden have never demonstrated concern about Palestinian human rights. I mean, there was just a terrible war in Gaza in which 1300 Palestinians were killed, a third of them children. Did any of the "get Freeman" crowd protest this violation of human rights? Just asking.

Of course, we all know that even the fiercest human rights activists in Washington tend to draw the line when it comes to Palestinians.

If I'm wrong, tell me. But I look at the list of those fighting Freeman and I find not one who spoke up about human rights in Gaza.

I admit that I am, in many ways, an Israel-firster. I love Israel and am dedicated to its security. That is why I work so hard for Israeli-Palestinian peace and specifically an end to the occupation that will, if left in place, destroy Israel.

So I admit that the reason I am for Freeman is because I am pleased that President Obama chose someone for the National Intelligence Council who believes that both US and Israeli interests are served when America plays the role of honest broker, not Israel's lawyer.

I admit it. For me, it's all about Israel. Why can't the other side be as honest and say that it's all about Israel for them too. Honesty is always the best policy.

AND HERE's Max Blumenthal on the man behind the attacks on Freeman.


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Maybe they can't admit it MJ because mixed motives are so unsatisfying. Remember how the neo-cons lionized Scoop Jackson? The great senator for freedom, yada, yada, yada. He was actually known as the "senator from Boeing."

His anti-Soviet stance dovetailed nicely with the wishes of the Defense Contractors who profitted hanesomely from the Cold War.

There is less money in peace, MJ.

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Exactly - a calculation of how much money would be spent on an attack on Iran would be illustrative. That number would be in the billions certainly - maybe $100,000,000,000 ?

It would not be too hard to find out which weapons systems would be used and which defense contractors would profit.

The oil industry has its permanent dream of getting control of Iran's oil and gas fields - some of the world's largest and best. The fantasy of tipping over Iran's government is a huge motivation for starting another war.

The Saudis and Gulf states want Iran pushed back. They are working hard to keep an attack on Iran a policy option.

Let's spread the blame around to all who deserve it, not just the co-religionists of one country.

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Is it possible that, besides the defense contractors, Scoop Jackson's anti-Soviet stance might also be related to the countless people now living in freedom that used to live in oppressive tyranny behind the iron curtain? As a progressive, doesn't reducing human suffering matter to you at all?

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So far, Obama appears to be following the "talks with pressure" approach endorsed by Dennis Ross. As I understand it, Ross thinks that in order not to appear weak, Obama must accompany any moves toward negotiations with an increasingly aggressive diplomatic and foreign policy posture aimed at isolating and tightening the noose around Iran. This is supposed to get us a more favorable deal down the road. Hence all the recent tough talk and moves to isolate Iran out of the box.

It sounds reasonable. But it is very likely Obama is being set up.

Suppose Obama engages in six months or so of hawkish noose-tightening, but with a background plan for an eventual negotiated settlement. But suppose Israel then attacks Iran before that negotiations ever really gets off the ground. Obama will have left himself no diplomatic ground from which to criticize the Israeli strike. He will have been forced by the tone and substance of his earlier statements, under pain of inconsistency, to bless the attack, and perhaps even join in.

What Obama has to ask himself is this: Is an Israeli attack on Iran good for the United States and the world, or isn't it? If he thinks the answer is "no", then he is going to have to use all the powers of his office to prevent it. Because the new far right government in Israel is going to carry one out unless Obama actively prevents them from doing so.

Presidents and foreign policy leaders in the United States should know by now that the United States is not good at the kind of misdirection and guile the Ross approach recommends. Our system is too open. Everyone abroad can read all they want to about the plans, debates and attitudes of our policy makes, so we are more or less an open book. The Iranians know what we are up to; the Russians know what we are doing to. This preliminary posturing is both a waste of time, and highly risky.

I say let's just embrace that openness, and use it as a strength, instead of playing these old world Machiavellian games. If the Obama administration intends a negotiated settlement with Iran, they should just say publicly, "We seek a negotiated settlement with Iran" and begin negotiations forthwith. Put the pressure on the Iranians to match our open hand with reciprocal moves. Put Barack Obama in a room with that buffoonish bumpkin holocaust denier Ahmadinejad, and see who wins the battle for global opinion. I put my bet on Obama. But by tightening the noose further on Iran, we only make them look like a victim of the big, bad superpower, and undermine global support for our position.

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When you say Obama is being set up, you make it sound like he is a naive child.

Don't you think that as President, Obama has evaluated the risks of his policies and is acting accordingly?

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Not necessarily. He may be too trusting. More importantly, he has a tremendous number of important issues on his plate, and he may be so busy trying to prevent Great Depression II that some of the foreign policy issues are not getting the thought they deserve.

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One job of a President is not to be trusting. Think of FDR, who knew how to deal with the mass-murderer Stalin to defeat the worse mass-murderer Hitler. Think of Reagan, whose slogan about the Soviets was "Trust, but Verify".

If Obama is really naive in the way you are describing, electing him would have been a big mistake, so I am hoping you're not correct.

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No one can survive in politics of any other field without trusting someone. But Obama would hardly be the first politician to rest his trust in the wrong people and get played.

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Politics is all about having the right judgment about who (and when) to trust.

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Not a day goes by that someone on the Israeli media advocates an attack on Iran. "Should we do it now. Should we wait. Is it time yet?"

With the world economy disintegrating before our eyes, Netanyahu declares that it is not the economy but Iran that is the greatest, the baddest danger in the whole galaxy. The Israeli right wing and its amen corner in the media, government, and lobbies are putting the chess pieces in place to pull the levers of power in Washington for an attack on Iran.

The Israeli psyche is traumatized by the holocaust which understandably colors their view of the world. Their mind has a repetition compulsion, repeating a traumatic event over and over again. But this time they are hell-bent to prove to themselves and to the world what they were unable to do against the Nazis, that is, fight back and win. As such, a new Hitler is always around the corner. Now Iran is the new Hitler and the Israeli political establishment will not rest until this new one is destroyed. It won't be WW2 with the Jews losing. It will be WW3 with the Jews winning. However, when WW3 starts with an attack on Iran, all of humanity loses.

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Is it so clear to you that the view of the Israeli public and media is not correct? After all, they are closer to the action than we are, and have suffered enough to know when they are threatened.

I imagine that if the Israeli government had repeatedly threatened to wipe the Palestinian Territories off the map, we progressives would want action, not inaction. Well, that's what Iran has repeatedly done, with Israel the target.

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MJ:

What does this top Iran scholar say about the likelihood of Iran attacking Israel with non-conventional weapons, as it has threatened many times?

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Israel is not going to attack Iran without US approval and that approval is extremely unlikely. Just look at the map. Without US approval Israel would have fly through Turkey, Syria or Jordan-Saudi Arabia. Israel may be able to get a few planes over Iranian airspace and drop a few bombs, but not do any real damage. The only result would be to rile the Iranians, certainly not set back their nuclear ambitions by much.

If anyone wants to argue that Israel is going to attack, they should come up with a scenario that such an attack would provoke the US to go to war against Iran. If Bush could avoid this trap, then it seems extremely unlikely that Obama would be sucked in.

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MJ - I'm confused. A couple of days ago, you were an America Firster, said so loundly and frequently, and lambasted commenters who you felt put Israel first.

Now you say you're an Israel Firster? If you support Israel, why aren't you more vocal about the many commenters in your various threads who obviously hate Israel with every fiber of their being - I'm referring to the ones who viciously attack Israel at every opportunity but never seem to have anything negative to say about other nations that do the same things or worse? The hate that they are promoting can cause real damage to Israel, and you are letting the ugly attacks go unanswered.

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Senator Saxby Chambliss (R - GA) has been on the Board of Advisors at the far right-wing ‘Israel Project’ since shortly after first being elected to the Senate (defeating Max Cleland) in 2002. He had a TV ad early in his 2008 campaign that prominently touted his belief in a “benevolent God".

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On what basis to you say that the "Israel Project" is far right wing? Does it only support "far right wing" politicians like Lieberman? It seems to me that it's a pretty mainstream organization. When you say far right, it makes it sound like they're a bunch of neo-Nazis.

Or do you consider any organization to the right of the Israel Policy Forum to be "far right wing"?

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SEE - "Focus Grouping War with Iran" - by Laura Rozen, 11/19/07

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2007/11/focus-grouping-war-iran

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From the article you linked:

"The Israel Project is a nonprofit group that supports Israel and conducts extensive polling on American public attitudes toward Israel and the Middle East. Its board of advisers includes 15 Democratic and Republican members of the House and the Senate, plus actor Ron Silver."

Are you suggesting that the 15 Democrats and Republicans are all on the far right? Or that Ron Silver is on the far right? Or that only people on the far right support Israel?

Just because you disagree with some of their positions doesn't make them far right. And throwing words like that around makes it harder for progressives who are in the trenches fighting the real far right - racists, Holocaust deniers, skinheads, etc.

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The Rozen article indicates that 'The Israel Project' was determined to see that Iran was bombed irregardless of whether they were trying to develop nuclear weapons. For me, that makes them an extremist, right-wing group!

ROZEN ARTICLE - http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2007/11/focus-grouping-war-iran

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I should have mentioned that Senator Saxby Chambliss (R - GA) was one of the seven Republicans from the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence who signed the letter to Dennis Blair expressing serious concerns about his appointment of Charles Freeman to head the National Intelligence Council.

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