Obama Rebuffs Neocons, Appoints Freeman
It's a new day. For the first time in years, a President has rebuffed the neocon/rightwing lobby on an issue dear to their hearts. He informed the Senate that he will make Charles Freeman head of the National Intelligence Council despite the full-court press led by the neocons and the rightwing of the pro-Israel lobby against him.
Here is my post from earlier today about the push against Freeman. I was wrong about one thing. Steve Rosen was only the public face against the appointment. Quietly, behind closed doors (including doors in the White House), a major effort to block Freeman was made. And it didn't just come from the fringes.
Obama did not back down. In fact, I hear, he never considered backing down.


















This piece of news has made my day!
Bottom line: what was at 'stake':
h/t: http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/
February 26, 2009 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Your day and mine.
February 26, 2009 4:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
MJ, I know as soon as my relatives hear about this, they are going to say "I told you Obama was anti-Israel".
It shows you how dangerous and deep neocon mythmaking went.
February 26, 2009 4:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mine too!
February 26, 2009 4:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm really excited by this exhibition of Backbone. Gobama.
What do you think of the new Nusseibeh-Ayalon "People's Voice" plan discussed on Matt Yglesias's site: http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/
Check out the comments. The usual band of rejectionists are nervous! Times are a-changin.
February 26, 2009 6:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well done Mr. Obama, well done!!!
Your next task is neutralizing the push from the neocon pod zombies when it comes to dealing with Iran. Show us more of your Neocon Jew Jitsu!
February 26, 2009 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are there any Jewish orgs that are expected to support this appointment?
February 26, 2009 6:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is a hopeful sign. A good story about Freeman and the forces arrayed against him appeared on the Foreign Policy website last night (my apologies if someone already has cited this).
February 26, 2009 6:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
That is good news. Here's to hoping that the Rosen trial will finally occur, now that the fig leaf of the Bush cabal has been removed.
February 26, 2009 7:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Happy dancin' as promised.....I read someplace (?) that Freeman's appointment was supposed to announced in thirty days. If true, someone decided to shortcircuit the shitstormtroopers.
Steve Rosen is moving on to a new campaign as he freaks that the "Talk to Hamas Lobby" is surging and says that "Israel" is worried. That would be SOME Israelis, dude. Usually they are politicians, not military/security analysts with a clue.
Rosen links to a JP article to illustrate his point. Among the nuggets within is the news from one of Bibi's FP advisors, Zalman Shoval, that "To return Hamas as a partner is not what America is interested in." What America is that? The shrinking one that still thinks that Fatah can rule sans a unity government?
My favorite nugget is the inclusion of the Israeli "threat" MO that keeps pesky foreigners in line re Hamas. In a discussion concerning upcoming visitors, the JP singles out the fact that Norwegian foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Store will visit Gaza and:
"Although Norway is one of only a few countries that continued to have contact with Hamas after the organization came to power in 2006, Store is not expected to meet Hamas representatives.
Israeli officials said that they had not been informed of any planned meeting with Hamas in Gaza, and that such a meeting would obviously have precluded any possible meeting between Store and Olmert or Barak."
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1235410718352&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
So that's how it rolls? Talk to Hamas and we won't talk to you...if you're a "Westerner", that is. Those Muslim/Arab types with minimal clout are different, of course.
George Mitchell and Hillary had better be on the ground in Gaza pretty soon if they want to be credible in their determinations about what's needed there.
February 26, 2009 9:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
FROM MR ROSENBERG: "Quietly, behind closed doors (including doors in the White House), a major effort to block Freeman was made. And it didn't just come from the fringes. Obama did not back down. In fact, I hear, he never considered backing down."
ME: I'm impressed...very impressed.
February 26, 2009 11:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
the so called neo-cons must be forced to realize the days when they had the presidents ear and the power are over.
this is a fgood first step.
but why tease at the idea of there being "others' who wanted this killed?
to make it look like it wasnt an attempt by israel supporters to hijack Obama?
names please.
February 27, 2009 7:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
So is Chas Freeman a good pick only because he was opposed by the pro-Israel community, or because he is actually the best choice to do the job he's being hired for. Reading this post (and so many others in the same mould), you would have to assume that the main attribute Freeman brings to the table is the fact that pro-Israel activists don't like him. In other words, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
As is often the case, Jeffrey Goldberg has the smartest take on the matter:
Exactly. If someone being appointed to the NIC were even an AIPAC member, let alone someone who took money from AIPAC, MJ would raise a stink. He'd argue he couldn't be objective, he was bought and paid for etc. Is he now so obsessed with AIPAC that anyone opposed by AIPAC is by definition good, even if they're bought and paid for by the Saudi government? Or does he in fact think that being bought and paid for by Saudi Arabia is objectively a good thing?
February 27, 2009 8:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
nonsense.
anyone who doesnt think iran and all muslims should be destroyed will never be "acceptable' to that crowd.
February 27, 2009 8:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
Better yet: Why not hire Israel's lawyer, Dennis Ross, to represent the United States in the Gulf and Southwest Asia. I'm sure Brad thinks that was a good choice.
What is absolutely delicious is watching the Zionists squirm now that the Goyim are waking up to all the damage the Israel-First crowd has done to America.
February 27, 2009 9:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
You are really one nasty piece of work.
Your comment would appear to say that all Jews are "Israel-firsters" and that the "Goyim" are now taking American interests back from the "Zionists" who, by your definition, are all Jews.
Good grief - what a steaming pile of poo. What are you, Pat Buchanan in disguise?
February 27, 2009 11:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Outreach Coordinator of Jews for Buchanan, more like.
February 27, 2009 11:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Brad, are you a teenage girl: "steaming pile of poo"? Good grief.
Of course, being judged by you is like having my grammar corrected by George W. Bush.
P.S. I am sure you are hero in your own basement. Alas, the world just doesn't understand you. Hang in there. Puberty is tough.
February 27, 2009 7:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Where was the part that mentioned Freeman accepting money from the Saudi government in that quote? You took a pretty huge leap there from sympathizer to "bought and paid for." Besides, Bush was in bed with the Saudis and the Israelis at the same time, so even if one accepts the assertion that Freeman is pro-Saudi, it doesn't mean that he can't deal fairly with the Israelis.
February 27, 2009 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's well known that Freeman has accepted money from Saudi Arabia for his think tank.
February 27, 2009 11:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Goldberg makes a serious accusation that requires some support. Laying aside the association game for the moment, what evidence do we really have that Charles Freeman is hostile to Israel?
Admittedly, I need to familiarize myself with Freeman's work. So far I have found these comments before the Pacific Council on International Policy from a year and quarter ago:
Controversial, perhaps (I personally find his repeated references to Israel and the Palestinian Authority as "the Holy Land"); worthy of intelligent discourse, definitely. But hostile? I don't see it.
February 27, 2009 11:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
The full transcript of Freeman's remarks are HERE
Completing my parenthetical thought in the summation above: "(I personally find his repeated references to Israel and the Palestinian Authority as "the Holy Land" distasteful)."
February 27, 2009 11:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well sure, you can cherry-pick any quote you like to find evidence that supports a position. The key thing is what does the sum total of his thoughts and writings look like?
Goldberg also makes reference to another speech given by Freeman:
It's this refusal to acknowledge a complex truth that is often so infuriating when debating the Arab-Israeli conflict in general. Thus MJ and his crowd, at least some of whom I'm prepared to believe do really care about Israel's welfare, endorse someone like this who is clearly biased. Why is he attractive? Because he is opposed by the hated AIPAC crowd. Maybe it's possible to acknowledge that sometimes the AIPAC types have a point.
And for the record, I would say the same thing to the AIPAC types. I would get just as exasperated with people who are now calling Hillary Clinton anti-Israel because she is putting pressure on Israel to speed up humanitarian aid.
February 27, 2009 2:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
BradtheDad,
I'm trying to do anything but cherrypick quotes. As I admitted at the outset, I need to familiarize myself with Freeman's work. Meanwhile, no one has yet to support any assertion of Freeman's "hostility" to Israel.
February 27, 2009 2:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Please read what I posted again. Saying Israel "has shown no talent for peace" is, to my and most peoples' ears, hostile. It is not true (or, if you like, not completely true), and so to assert it as being true is an act of hostility.
February 27, 2009 4:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
You have a lower bar than I do, and I respect that. From where I sit, characterizing Zionism as racism, asserting that Arab peoples have a monopoly on national rights in the region or otherwise proposing the dismantling of Jewish national self-determination in Israel crosses a definite line into the realm of hostility, and I don't get that from a mildly undiplomatic dig that holds a certain grain of truth to it. Your examples of Israeli withdrawals from Sinai, Lebanon and Gaza are strong arguments for Israeli good faith that all too often go unacknowledged. But I would be hard pressed to argue against the remark considering the particular history of the Israeli-Palestinian process, where frankly neither end of the negotiations has given us any reason to expect much progress without "adult supervision."
February 28, 2009 8:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
As with all Obama's decisions thus far, I'm HOPEFUL and look forward to seeing the results. If Freeman's appointment can help move this forward, then good. No--GREAT.
I do think BTD makes some good points in principle, however. There's been a general consensus that America's one-sidedness toward Israel has been the sticking point. We'll now see how true this is, or still is.
I have read that Freeman was paid upwards of a $1 million by the Saudis, but I don't have the link, alas.
February 27, 2009 11:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
M.J., supporting someone like this makes you look bad. This guy is a Republican lobbyist for the Saudis. He does not belong in government, and his record on Israel is way out of the mainstream. This is not just a "critical of Israel" appointee. It's a deeply anti-Israel one, and more importantly, an anti-democracy one, and it should be rescinded immediately.
February 27, 2009 11:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
So great to have a prez that's actually in charge...
February 27, 2009 7:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is the type of guy we need in the White House, one who wanted the tanks to roll over that pesky protester in Tienanmen Square. Hope and Change for all.
March 1, 2009 3:47 PM | Reply | Permalink