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Thanks again Will for having an open mind and reaching out to those who may disagree with you. The country has enough dittoheads on the right and the left who are averse to a civil exchange of ideas. It is always tempting to assume the worst in others, which is the last refuge of those afraid to engage in open debate. One might even call it a form of authoritarianism...

Will, your points are all well taken, and I accept your criticism of Reagan's fiscal and energy policies. In my work on Reagan I've repeatedly criticised him for his failed domestic policies, especially regarding civil rights. But he deserves praise for defying his advisors both in and out of government who told him not to trust Gorbachev, and who were appalled at his attitude regarding nuclear weapons and the doctrine of Mutual Assured Destruction. He found the latter to be immoral, and searched for a way out of it. He rejected the counsel of Caspar Weinberger, Richard Perle, Richard Nixon, and a host of Republican foreign policy "experts" who urged him to spurn Gorbachev's advances. In that sense he was out in front on one of the most pressing issues of our time and his. At the Reykjavik Summit he came remarkably close to moving the two superpowers toward abolishing their nuclear stockpiles. This, to me, seems worthy of praise.

Re Iran-Contra: I'm unaware of any evidence indicating that Poindexter and North were following Reagan's orders in terms of the diversion of funds to the Contras. Nonetheless, his failure to control his NSC staff was a serious failure of leadership, and as you mentioned, and it could have led to his impeachment. The problem was that John Poindexter testifed that he did not tell the President about this part of the scheme, which was by far the most controversial aspect of the scandal. Reagan was a notorious delagator, and it bit him badly in this instance, for he was negligent in his duties as President. That said, let's keep in mind that this is not the first administration to flaunt the law regarding secret intiatives abroad. Arguably, the assassination campaign waged against Fidel Castro during the Eisenhower and Kennedy presidency fits the bill as well . . . either Ike and JFK approved it, or they were horribly negligent in carrying out their duties.

It's important not to lose sight of the historical record when discussing President's and their legacies. There's a case to be made that the modern presidency has gone beyond the intentions of those who crafted the constitution, and that changes need to be made, regarding War Powers, intelligence, and other issues. But the problems didn't start with Reagan, and they are unlikely to end with the departure of George W. Bush from office.


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Regarding Iran-Contra you noted: "That said, let's keep in mind that this is not the first administration to flaunt the law regarding secret initiatives abroad."

This hardly excuses the crime. It's not just Nicaragua, either. The Reagan administration had a heinous human rights record throughout Latin America -- a record of supporting death squads and subverting democracy that he inherited from Nixon. Reagan strengthened the American presidency by keeping secrets from congress and on the backs and slit throats of thousands of innocents throughout the Americas.

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Just can't stay away but something's still bugging me about this... It's that I really didn't know that there were people who go around thinking that Reagan wasn't behind Iran Contra and expect to be taken seriously.

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I really didn't know that there were people who go around thinking that Reagan wasn't behind Iran Contra and expect to be taken seriously.

At this distance in time, what mostly matters about St. Ronald is what he was clearly and unmistakably ‘behind’ in public. If he had campaigned for office and for re-election on a platform of makin’ the world safe for Ollie North, he would deserve eternal ignominy, although he would have to share some of it with Televisionland and the electorate.

There is no question, of course, of Reagan not bein’ behind Col. North in the Trumanesque buck-stops-here sense, but that is another story. (I think.)

Happy days.


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I voted for Reagan in 1980, primarily because of Jimmy Carter's idiotic commando raid into Iran to rescue the hostages, which resulted in the loss of two or three helicopters, and I don't remember how many soldiers. When Reagan won the election, I called my father, a loyal Republican, and told him "I hope he scares the Russians as much as he scares us." Reagan deserves credit for bringing the cold war to a peaceful end, primarily because he was able to gain Gorbashov's trust. Gorbashov wrote a very nice commemorative of Reagan in the New York Times, attributing Reagan's better qualities for bringing the cold war to a peaceful end.

But Reagan did many other things during his Presidency, that did not have such a good result in the long run. The U.S. is today the epicenter of the worst financial crisis since the Depression (truly a Minsky moment), and our present predicament is directly attributable to the misguided economic philosophies launched by Reagan.

Let me explain: Reagan proferred in his inaugural address that "government is the problem". While it is of course true that our government has failed us in many ways, it is, after all, we the people who are ultimately responsible for the political choices we make. Obama, in his commemoration of Abraham Lincoln in Springfield Illinois last week, used Lincoln to refute Reagan. Lincoln believed that government has a fundamental role to do for its citizens what they cannot do for themselves. For example, Lincoln, a railroad lawyer, set in motion the construction of the Transcontinental railroad, which ultimately proved to be perhaps the greatest investment in infrastructure this country has ever known.

Government indeed has a role to play, and the duty of the citizens is to make sure that government plays that role properly and effectively. One of the important roles of government is regulation. The government provides law enforcement, legal justice, incarceration if necessary, national defense, INVESTMENT in infrastructure, education.

Reagan argued against many of these things and sought to narrow the government's role to national defense. He argued against financial regulation, which is one of the primary reasons for our present state of distress. He appointed Alan Greenspan as chairman of the Federal Reserve, a man of unparalleled incompetence, who gained immense popularity, and knighthood, by violating the fundamental precept of the Central banker's duty: to take away the punchbowl when the party gets going. Greenspan refused to take action against asset bubbles, and declined to use any of the Fed's powers to regulate or impede the "Irrational Exuberance", a term he coined himself. When the dot-com bubble popped, Greenspan pushed interest rates down to very low levels and held them there, precipitating the housing bubble, which he also denied.

The health of the banking system depends on the health of the housing market. Why did Greenspan screw around with housing? Sweden experienced a banking crisis in the early 90's precisely due to a housing bubble. Was Greenspan, the most powerful central banker in the world, unaware of what happened in Sweden? And if he was aware, why didn't he learn from it? Either way, his legacy is in a shambles. Greenspan took his philosophy from Ann Rand, Ronald Reagan, and Milton Friedman.

Reagan also argued for cutting taxes, and trickle-down economics. His opponent in the 1980 primary campaign referred to his economic theories as "voodoo economics". Wealth does not trickle down, it trickles up; and the result of 28 years of these policies is that a large segment of Americans has been pauperized -- they have become deeply indebted, in part because of Reagan's dismemberment of the unions. The indebtedness of so many people has undercut the nation's economic foundation.

As Barack Obama put it in his inaugural address: "A nation cannot prosper when it favors only the prosperous."

The present band of Republicans treat Reagan as a god. He is more aptly to be regarded as the pied piper of Hamlin. If I could draw, I would draw a political cartoon: Mitch McConnell, John Kyl, and John Boehner lashed to the mast of the U.S. Reagan, Rush Limbaugh at the helm, and a gigantic wave towering above the broken mast, labeled "Financial Crisis", which is about to descend upon the ship and sink it to the bottom of the ocean.

The country will survive: the present crisis is a political one, not an economic one. We are in the early stages of recovery from Reaganism.

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dhs, you should post this comment separately as well. I'd rec it.

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Ronald Reagan took office in 1981, with a 2.6% of GDP budget deficit.

Within two years, he had pushed that to 4%, and it never fell below that level until 1987.

He increased the federal debt held by the public by 15.1 percentage points of GDP, from 25.8% to 40.9% in 1988.

Ronald Reagan single handedly destroyed the myth that GOPers are fiscally responsible, and the just-ended Dubious Administration confirmed it.

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One should bear in mind that Mr. Reagan did not begin life as a ‘GOPer’. In some ways it is better to think of him as the Reagan Democrat to end all Reagan Democrats.

On the economy in particular, St. Ronald was memorably denounced by Big Party Neocomrade G. H. W. Bush as a purveyor of "voodoo economics." Bein' a thorough old-fashioned GOPer, George XLI was a sad sham when he ran on "Read my lips: no new taxes" -- but then look what happened to him when he got serious (?) and tried to be fiscally responsible! "Life is unfair."

Happy days.


(( "Win one for the GOPper"? ))

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Reagan made public anti-intellectualism an acceptable political behavior, after three generations of more or less serious politics in the US (Yes, even Nixxon).

In this way he enabled Gingrich and the Republican takeover of 1994, driving Clinton largely to the right of center and laying the groundwork for Bush the Lesser.

On these grounds alone, I'd say Reagan was a disaster.

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The Soviet economy would have collapsed no matter who was president at the the time. The Soviets proved corporate welfare doesn't work, too bad the republicans didn't learn from them.

Maybe Reagan didn't know what North and Poindexter were up to and maybe he didn't know about trading arms for hostages, but he certainly backed them up with his rhetoric. He certinly knew about the contras and the south American death squads.

Reagan espoused a worldview that has been shown to be completely wrong in almost every way, the sooner the country realizes that the sooner we can become a good citizen of the world and not just a rogue state with nuclear weapons.

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I would think Reagan knew about Iran Contra. At least to the level of Regan saying something like "I want this done and I don't care how you do it." type of comment. Plausible deniability anyone?
I don't think Poindexter and North would have been so willing to commit treason (as defined in the Constitution) without the blessings of the president.

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Sure helps to know you'll be pardoned if you get into trouble.

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