Amen. Megadittoes M.J.!

I think Obama is doing the right thing. The contrast of Obama trying to save the country compared to the actions of the Repubs (sic) recalls the creatures Reagan referred to as the Nabobs of Negativity.

The constant chorus of we have a leg up now, we're winning now, we hope Obama fails is self-descriptive. The lyrical message they repeatedly sing is party first, country last. Thankfully the party of the wrinkled, wealthy and white is outnumbered and shrinking fast.

The Republican Party lost its reason for existence when it embraced ignorance under Reagan, arrogance under Gringrich, deceit under Rove, and flaming hypocrisy under the chickenhawk neo-cons of the Cheney administration. This appalling spectacle has little or nothing to do with the two sides of the National Assembly hall in Revolutionary France. It does relate to a set of mistaken "Liberal" notions going back to the 1960s: that dumbing-down and tolerance of incompetence are pathes to inclusiveness and social harmony. Republicans acted like moronic juvenile deliquents in the stimulus plan debates because they perceived little cost to doing so. The going out of business mainstream new media will move on to some new collection of soundbites next week. Spare the rod, spoil the child, and you end up as we have with a Congress of Republicans having little respect for consistency or honesty and of Democrats with little clue of what a backbone is.

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Obama would have countered the cries of being disingenuous in his campaign claims to work for BIpartisanship by saying, there is a time for bipartisanship, and there are grave times for clear and undiluted action. Now is just such a time. Asking the same people who got us into this economic debacle for the way out
of it probably was NOT a good way to begin practicing bipartisanship.I will try to reach out to the Republicans in the
future, if they allow me.

When are Democrats going to stop whining? We just got a historic and massive economic package that contains more than the amount that was in the plan rolled out in December. It contains a very nice mix between short term stimulus and long term public investment. It is loaded up with wildest-dream progressive goodies. Meanwhile, the Republicans have been made to look like total assholes who have blown their credibility with the American public to engage in transparently selfish electioneering.

Obama looks like the guy who bent over backward to involve Republicans in a bi-partisan economic recovery, even inviting one of them to be his Commerce Secretary, but couldn't crack through their stubborn, head-up-the-ass Hooverism. After dallying with them for a few days, he took his show on the road and that was all she wrote. The train of history is leaving the station, and the Republicans are standing on the platform, shaking their fists, and yelling that we should have taken a horse-drawn buggy instead.

Damn. It's all good! What do you guys want? Republican heads on stakes around the Capitol, just to prove it can be done?

I know; I know. Since we got $800 billion, we should have asked for a trillion. And if we had gotten a trillion, the naysayers would be saying we should have asked for $1.3 trillion. Talk about your nattering nabobs of negativity! What a bunch of complainers. Even when they win a blowout victory, Democrats need to talk themselves into a story about why they lost.

Q. Why Are We So Intimidated By The Right When They Have Always Been Wrong and We've Always Been Right?

A. They have the National Rifle Association. We have Jimmy Crater.

I agree, MJ. But there are conservatives out there that I respect. The really good conservatives, the William Buckley types the "classical liberals" who are really into individual freedoms are, well, wrong on the economics but right on the social libertarianism and I can deal with them. I also find a lot of them to be congenial, open to debate and well meaning.

But... these are not the types that Obama is dealing with. Its there demagogues that are worrisome.

Says Obama, if I told the American people the "TRUTH", I would end up like Lincoln and Garfield, in a wooden coffin, eight feet under...of course, it also does not help when the mainstream media gives equal air time to the losing party, with their loser ideas... but having said that too, with the aide of Congress (though mostly Republicans), this country is being taken over by global banking interests and turning the U.S. into a third world operation of the rich over the masses of mostly poor people (a third made up of the formerly known "Middle Class"). Not withstanding the recent passing of the Stimulus Bill, that is crumbs compared to what the government may do to bail out the financial industry; expect another 2 or 3 trillion to prop up and sustain the banking system. [I posted those sentiments at the whitehouse.gov web site, though they only give you up to about 500 words to rant and comment.] Short of riots and starvation already experience in other third nations, collective souls need to get rid of, if not at least limit the powers of fractional interest banking and the political powers behind international banking and the Federal Reserve; breaking them up into smaller entities as was the case in history (anti-trust).

....but here is the new manifesto, the Financial Emancipation of our times: Monetary Reform Act - A Summary: This proposed law would require banks to increase their reserves on deposits from the current 10%, to 100%, over a one-year period. This would abolish fractional reserve banking (i.e., money creation by private banks) which depends upon fractional (i.e., partial) reserve lending. To provide the funds for this reserve increase, the US Treasury Department would be authorized to issue new United States Notes (and/or US Note accounts) sufficient in quantity to pay off the entire national debt (and replace all Federal Reserve Notes).

The funds required to pay off the national debt are always closely equivalent to the amount of money the banks have created by engaging in fractional lending because the Fed creates 10% of the money the government needs to finance deficit spending (and uses that newly created money to buy US bonds on the open market), then the banks create the other 90% as loans (as is explained on our FAQ page). Thus the national debt closely tracks the combined total of US Treasury debt held by the Fed (10%) and the amount of money created by private banks (90%). Because this two-part action (increasing bank reserves to 100% and paying off the entire national debt) adds no net increase to the money supply (the two actions cancel each other in net effect on the money supply), it would cause neither inflation nor deflation, but would result in monetary stability and the end of the boom-bust pattern of US economic activity caused by our current, inherently unstable system.

Thus our entire national debt would be extinguished – thereby dramatically reducing or entirely eliminating the US budget deficit and the need for taxes to pay the $400+ billion interest per year on the national debt - and our economic system would be stabilized, while ending the terrible injustice of private banks being allowed to create over 90% of our money as loans on which they charge us interest. Wealth would cease to be concentrated in fewer and fewer hands as a result of private bank money creation. Thereafter, apart from a regular 3% annual increase (roughly matching population growth), only Congress would have the power to authorize changes in the US money supply - for public use -not private banks increasing only private bankers' wealth.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936 or visit their web site: www.themoneymasters.com

It's not intimidation. It's called having a sense of humility, of modesty in this world. We all can learn from each other, just as we all have something to teach each other. Stop and listen, M.J.... and reach out a bit. This country is not divided into "us" and "them" unless you're the one making the division. We're all just people trying to find our way.

-MCS

I say the DNC should take to the airwaves in increasingly liberal Maine and Pennsylvania to highlight the efforts of those 3 to support a far right wing agenda when those states voted overwhelmingly against said far right agenda and for President Obama. Hell I hope the GOP targets Snowe, Collins and Specter in the primaries...it'll be that much easier for D's to take those seats and go back to 51-49 being a majority instead of 60-40.

Are their significant instances where THEY were right and WE were WRONG. I don't think so. So why the hell don't we act like it?

Like Democrat protection of the GSE securitization process, Vietnam war, Great Society, AMT tax, Allan Greenspan, re-electing Marion Barry to public office, anthropomorphic global warming, Jimmy Carter, the Alar scare, Thimerisol conspiracy, and elimination of DEET, leading to the deaths of millions from Malaria. Oh yeah, and Air America, paying farmers not to farm, and ethanol.
Just off the top of my head.

The gop obstructionist were wrong again on the stimulus package, shooter242, and what an odd and partisan list you print. Half the admonitions fall squarely on therights lap. The other half are a strange mix of wingnut paranoia and partisan fictions, myths, and patent naked lies.

Time will tell who is right or who is wrong on the stimulus package, and your proclamation that "this will be wrong" is simply your partisan opinion, and nothing more.

The larger issue is that regardless of the gop theatrics pretending never to have read a bill they had been negotiating for two weeks, (compare with the lurch into fascism that was heaped onto congress in the cloak of night called the Patriot Act with no debate, no review, no discussion, no analysis and no democratic involvement) - the stimulus package achieved most of Obama's stated objectives.

And the president, and us progressives are clearly standing on these policies and this stimulus package to improve the dire economic situation for poor and middle class Ameicans heaped onto our laps by the pathological liars, traitors, criminals, and wanton profiteers in the bushgov. As Obama has already stated, he, and we expect to be judged on the success or lackthereof of this package. If things don't improve, then he, and we will suffer the political resprecussions. But unless you are psychic, which you obviously are not - then we will just have to wait and see what happens.

Your camp is throwing all your hopes into rush, joetheplumber and palin, and this coming after bush and cheney. Theright has nothing positive, and no success to stand on. The only option for the right is the relentless fearmongering and insipid repetition of the failed policies of taxcuts, taxcuts, taxcuts, taxcuts, taxcuts, taxcuts, taxcuts, taxcuts, squawk squawk taxcuts, taxcuts, taxcuts, taxcuts, taxcuts, taxcuts, taxcuts, taxcuts, squawk squawk benefiting the predator class, the superrich exclusively. Good luck.

In my opinion theright is wrong.
theleft is right.

We'll see over the next few days, weeks, months, and years if that opinion is valid.

What is incontervertable now however is that based on the bloody costly catrophic failures and horrorshows of the last eight years, - theright was definately wrong. We are only just now begining to find out if theleft is right.

Replace the word Liberals with Conservatives, and you will be right.

I stated clearly, that I am only offering an opinion on the future.

The past however is incontravertable and glaringly painfully obvious, and theright has been wrong on every single issue.

There is no hate from our camp shooter242. We only ask, or demand that Americans and American leadership abide by an honor the rule of law and that thing called the Constitution.

Instead of flinging a bunch of meaningless substantless ridiculous accusations and silliness and "Liberals", try focusing on the dire issues at hand, and what policies will remedy these horrible wrongs. If it is in your capacity to look beyond your disdain for all things liberal you will then be forced to examine the actual practical realities of the circumstances we all face and must hazard and endure. Then and only then will you begin to look to the hard facts and realities of policies and how those policies succeed, or as in the case of theright over the last eight years - FAIL miserably.

Taxcuts benefiting the predator class, the superrich are the problem, - NOT the solution.

The socalled free markets are a myth. What we actually have in practical application are crony capitalists, casino capitalist, and bandit capitalist markets that have collapse and lay dead and rotting in the field.

Irredeemable debt, models, products, and instruments are doomed to fail. Debt as an investment product is the riskiest of all instruments, and if things go pearshaped, as they did in 2007, doomed to catastrophic collapse. Forcefull regulation and transparency are the only remedy for containing the excesses of the wild and raucus and unpredictable benefits of irredeemable debt products and instraments.

The predator class and the facsists in the bushgov are not toobigtofail, or ever above, or beyond the rule of law and that thing called the Constitution.

The predator class and the fascists in the bushgov are accountable.

Liberals unlike conservative do abide by the rule of law, the Constitution, and the success or failure of our respective policies.

Obama has already admitted to "screwing up" on the vetting process. The andover cheerleader, pampered papasboy, pathological liar, fascist, warcriminal and war profiteer bush has yet to admit to any of the long and festering litany of FAILURES and mistakes during his 8 years of tyranny.

Democracy is a government wherein the authority of the government is derived by the consent of the governed. The governed, that would be us - the majority of American rejected and repudiated the lawlessness, deception, perversion, betrayal, wanton profiteering, and robbing from poor and middle class Americans to feed the predator class, the superrich that defined that last eight years of bushgov tyranny and gop domination of the government.

Three republicans voted for a stimulus package. Why? Fiscal conservatism. Are you joking? Your camp heaped the largests most porcine, most debt and deficit ridden, most tarnished, and least credible government in the history of American on the Obama administration, the democratic party and poor and middle class Americans.

What useful things are you talking about? Let me guess taxcuts taxcuts taxcuts taxcuts taxcuts taxcuts taxcuts taxcuts taxcuts taxcuts taxcuts taxcuts taxcuts taxcuts taxcuts taxcuts taxcuts taxcuts taxcuts taxcuts taxcuts taxcuts taxcuts squawk squawk that exclusively benefit the predator class.

PONZI schemes are doome to FAIL.

Wars of choice are immoral, illegal, costly bloody, and fruitless horrorshows that are doomed to fail.

Stick to the issue at hand. If you want to argue or retort specifics, I am more than willing to engage in a hearty discourse - but if you are simply wanting to slime Liberals and brute conservatives - you must provide some solid ground on which to debate.

All we have from you is your partisan opinion and the pathetic attempt to justify the bloody costly, horrors and catastrophic failures of the last eight years of conservative domination of American government and politics.

One last thing. It is fashionable to marginalize progressives as conspiratorial. If there ever is a real investigation into the events of 9/11, then the claims of Sibel Edmonds, Indira Singh, Ptech, Cheney's curious wargames mirroring 9/11 on the morning of 9/11, the odd and unusual large weirdly prescient and selective market moves just prior to 9/11, the spiriting out of the country of 140 Saudi nationals including bin Laden family members in the dark hours and days after 9/11, and the forensic issues and unanswered critical question with all three attack sites will turn much of what you obdurately dismiss as "crackpot conspiracy theories" will be proved more factual then the current PATENTLY FALSE narrative and fictions involving 9/11.

I never said anything about "Caucasian oil pipelines". I have written and warned about an the erection of an oil and energy corridor through the Caucacus bypassing Russia. Again, you simply slime the message as conspiratorial but refuse to examine or analyse the facts. Do a little research and get back to me.

Lastly I stand on the term predator class as accurate and necessary to define the top 1% of the population in terms of wealth, and thier policies. It's based on such constructs of the predator state which has a long and well respected place in the lexicon of economic theory.

What do you call executives earning a 150mn dollars a year, who conjured, pimped, cloaked, and profited wantonly from PONZI schemes and the packaging of the riskiest of all possible investment intraments based on irredeemable debt products divided and subdivided a thousand times over and intentinally FAILING to recognize or account for the RISK elements of those products, that ultimately contributed to the collapse of the global economic system and the greatest economic crisis since the depression - and then still have the gall, beg the government for bailouts of their FAILED and insolvent institutions, and to heap all the debt and costs on the taxpayers and Ameica's children - and reward themselves 18bn in bonuses.

I feel more than comfortable and accurate in framing this small imponderably wealthy and wildly detached and obdurate population - as the predator class. What would you call them?

In immortal words of fafblog [the characters slog toward the end of the world which is still not in sight]

"It sure was a long way till the end of the world," says me.
"The way was guarded by lions and chimeras and manticores and logicians and other ferocious beasts," says Giblets.
"Fortunately we are impervious to logic," says me.
"Modus ponens has no hold on Giblets!" says Giblets. "He swats antecedents like flies!"

hey Shooter...you need to get over the"Liberal" crap. You are an American. That means you don't look the other way and/or make excuses when individuals or corporations damage your country. That is what way too many Americans have done the past eight years and look where it's brought us to. Stop identifying with a brand and wake the hell up. It's not high school football where "my team" no matter what applies. Either help right the wrongs, that ignorant and incompetent, foisted on our country these past eight years, or get the hell out of the way so the grownups can fix things.

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