Senator Collins and the fateful choice: not stimulus but investment
Senator Collins -- who is a not so much a moderate as a negotiator for the extreme conservative faction of American politics -- says that money spent to stop a global pandemic flu doesn't belong in the stimulus bill.That crystallizes the critical question for Congress as it goes into conference to decide the shape and size of the legislation that will determine, in all likelihood, the fate of the country for the next two or three years.
I agree that "stimulus" is not a well-chosen word for the critical legislation that Congress simply must pass. The critical bill at issue now is all about the long neglected investment in the public goods needed by our country now and in the future.
We need, as a society and an economy, at last to provide for the taxpayers of the future -- who will pay for the debt we are incurring on their behalf. If we are going to borrow money our children will have to pay back, we should give them something to benefit from -- including protection from flu pandemics -- instead of just spending their money on unnecessary condos or more gas guzzling SUVs. At last, it's time for a change in our priorities. That's what Americans just voted for and by no small margin, including in Maine.
We need to make a massive investment in the creation of public goods, including medical advances, transportation, clean energy, broadband, education, and many other specific components of a safe, healthy, and productive society. These goods will benefit our children for years to come. They will be provided by the private sector: the government may control banks, to its shock and horror, but the public goods that the legislation will create for the most part will be provided by private parties. They will, however, be available to most Americans and for decades to come -- if Congress makes the right decisions next week.
The future should pay for the future.That's what the President's legislation proposes. We are going to incur debt in order to invest in the creation of public goods that will benefit all Americans for decades to come. The price is extraordinarily low because the debt costs so remarkably little and the benefits will accrue for decades to come -- if the right law is passed. This isn't, or should not be, about stimulating a consumer economy to a splurge of Valentine's Day presents or condo purchases. It is about building an America we will be proud to pass on to the next generation.
Under the last two Presidential terms (to sum up the prevailing approach of Senator Collins and her party), we have spent for the present, and ignored the future. We have told our children that we will leave them less than we inherited from our parents. Our government has encouraged home loans for SUVs and holidays, and "stimulated" the construction of condos that are too expensive for the vast majority of Americans (and especially Mainers, Senator Collins!). We have spent about the same amount in Iraq that is in the President's currently legislative proposal. It was a war that did not need to be fought and that has effectively impoverished our country. These choices are what the current President was elected to reject. These are the decisions that the present legislation -- as written in the people's House -- proposes to reverse.
As it happens, we can at last mobilize support for the long overdue investments in what's good for all Americans. We can get votes from Congressional figures who normally worry more about balancing the budget than spending what is needed to rebuild America. We can get these votes now because these powerful figures agree that we must also encourage consumption from an economy that is producing only about 75% of the output that our capacity permits -- in general, our machines of production are operating at about 75% of capacity and that is falling. This shortfall between capacity and output -- applicable to the coffee machines at Starbucks and the wind turbine manufacturing facilities in Ohio and the unused time of real estate agents and on and on -- is what leads to lay-offs and recession. It produces corporate decisions not to invest: why create capacity when the old capacity is under-utilized? We can ask banks to loan until we are hoarse, but if there's no new capacity to create, then to what will they loan? The case is so clear that at last we can persuade most of Congress to spend the money on public goods that in turn will create the work for people who in turn will consume more of the goods and services that our economy is capable of producing.
Unfortunately, the Republicans insist that the Senate must amass 60 votes to pass anything. They have, just barely, enough votes to keep 60 from coming behind the President's legislation. To help their negotiation, Senator Coleman has engaged in a futile, groundless litigation against Al Franken, who by all rights should be in the Senate able to vote for investment in public goods. Nevertheless, the Republicans know that they can't run the risks of precipitating an even more radical downturn in the economy. So they send Senator Collins to negotiate cuts in flu research and vaccination on behalf of the extreme right-wing that would eagerly vote to reduce taxes on the very well-off instead of paying for children to be healthy, safe, well-fed and well-educated. This isn't moderate politics: it is just negotiation for the purpose of reducing investment in public goods. They want to take money from long term investments and spend it on short-term tax breaks accruing more to a few than to the many.
The House's approach, and the President's is -- and this is its critical, essential genius -- is to hit two targets: first, we create the public goods that we have so long gone without and, second, in doing so we increase demand for private goods that our idle factories should be making.
It is simply crucial to repudiate the thinking that supports massive, annual federal deficits (such as Senator Collins and her party has supported for the last two Presidential terms) yet rejects investment in America's health, wealth and safety. What has Senator Collins and her party blessed instead for eight long years? Money for military spending in other countries; tax cuts for the very wealthy so that they can invest in residential real estate, luxury goods, and, sadly, ersatz financial products that are now of much reduced value; and for eight long years no meaningful spending on public goods available to all Americans.
One does not need to argue that tax cuts don't belong in the pending legislation. But it's absolutely obvious to non-Washington Americans that our country needs investment in the basic, public goods available to all Americans, as opposed to depending solely on tax cuts that surely will principally benefit the stalwart supporters of the Republican Party. The purpose of tax cuts -- other than those that go directly, without intermediation, to most middle class and lower income class individuals (which are not the ones the Republican Party favors) -- is to create more consumption of existing goods and also incentives for private investment of any and all kinds. We need both that consumption and that investment, because our economy is falling so quickly. But we particularly need investment, preferably by both government and private investors, in the creation of public goods -- that is, goods like energy, communications, transportation, education, health, and safety which are generally and widely available on a non-exclusive basis to everyone.
Let me repeat for emphasis: a public good, such as clean energy or communications, can be provided by private parties and usually is in our mixed economy. That's good! But we have for years grossly under-invested in such public goods. Instead, we have concentrated far too much investment and consumption in the upper income classes and in non-productive goods and services, like real estate and luxury goods and military spending and fanciful financial products.
For far too long, under the rule of Senator Collins' party, we have been a country of concentrated private wealth and widespread public poverty. It's time for change. That's what the Congress is actually debating, and Senator Collins is on the wrong side of the wishes of the majority of Americans. She was just re-elected but it can't be that the people of her state actually support her miserly attitude toward America's public -- meaning, generally available -- sphere. It's time for people to speak up, to speak out, as Congress goes into its critical conference.





















Both sides share the same fundamental goal - to re-inflate the capitalist/consumerist system as quickly as possible. That's why we hear about the downside of increased personal savings, for example.
If people try to save for an uncertain future than they aren't spending now. The parties only differ on some relatively minor details, although given all the heat one would think there were real substantive issues. The "liberals" are more interested in providing increased social services, especially for those at the bottom. The "conservatives" are more interested in pumping money into the top. I think many really believe in trickle-down and that only the wealthy are smart enough to spend wisely.
Where they don't disagree is on the need for expanded militarism, expanded foreign adventurism, and the return to traditional capitalism. The fuss over increased regulation is just a side issue. Even corporations are leaning towards better enforcement of rules so that they have a more level playing field. It is hard for an honest firm to compete with a Ponzi scheme.
What they don't want to see is any discussion of the basis of capitalism, that it is a system based upon underpricing raw materials and that assumes they will continue to be available in, essentially unlimited, quantities.
The US consumes 40% of the resources with 4% of the population. This is not only unjust, but unsustainable. The developing world won't stand for it and the planet doesn't have enough resources to keep this up for much longer.
It is time to realize that "sustainable development", "smart growth" and other meaningless catch phrases are not a real social policy. The US public knows that we have been getting more than our share and wants to keep it that way, thus the widespread support of militarism. If we can't buy at favorable prices, we will force others to supply us. This was the philosophy behind the Iraq invasion and even though it has failed our leaders are not willing to concede that the model is obsolete.
I've not heard Obama say anything about sacrifice, but the US will need to scale back its consumption eventually. Either we plan how to do it or Mother Nature will do it for us.
February 8, 2009 6:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am betting nothing will be done and it will be Mother Nature that will be the great decider. Then afterward they, they being whoever is left, will have no choice but not to worry about what is the best course for any given economy, and the riches of the wealthy, but surviving a planet turned hostile. Humanity is parasitic in nature. We consume and consume while our numbers continue to grow and grow producing nothing of benefit in return until we kill off the host...
February 8, 2009 6:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow. Naked greed on display. Mr. Hundt, I'll put it to you... who is greedier, the man that wants to keep more of his earnings for himself, or the man who covets those earnings for himself?
You my friend have just declared yourself as the latter. If you're going to grab a trillion of other people's money why not go for two? Or three? Just think of all the wonderful things you could spend it on. Keep up the good work.
February 8, 2009 6:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Earnings? Earnings based on how well suited one is to exploit raw resources and their fellow man? Is it greedy for someone who toils for another to want more of the benefits of their toils when what they receive is not reciprocal to what is 'earned'? I see a yearning for equity while you see greed.
February 8, 2009 7:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
After the humans are parasitic line, I was going to put you on ignore, but maybe you're a soul crying out for help.
Earned? That's usually determined by negotiation before a job starts. Unless specified, that's all there is to it. Nothing else. They get no equity, just a wage.
Why you might ask? Because labor is a tool. Without capital and an idea, labor is a bunch of people standing around with nothing to do.
February 8, 2009 10:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
And the rules allowing workers to collectively bargain for wages are being fully enforced? Not that it matters anymore. Even if enforced there is nothing to stop a corporation from closing any given facility(s) and moving the operations to another country to exploit, ummmmmmm, take full financial advantage of cheaper labor. Unless there was some mechanism in place to allow workers to collectively bargain across borders. Even though markets have all the benefits of being 'global' labor isn't so I ain't holding my breath.
February 8, 2009 10:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Does your word "earnings," shooter242, include the products of "rent seeking"?
February 8, 2009 7:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
If by "rent seeking" you mean the manipulation of a system for fun and profit, yes. I dislike lawyers but they are a necessary evil.
February 8, 2009 10:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm going to claim -- a WAG without facts at hand -- that 80% of the incomes of the top 1% are derived from "rent seeking."
Protecting those incomes encourages rent seeking, and I leave it to you to argue why the economy benefits from that particular activity.
The public money and public liberty . . . will soon be discovered to be sources of wealth and dominion to those who hold them; distinguished, too, by this tempting circumstance, that they are the instrument, as well as the object of acquisition. Thomas Jefferson
February 8, 2009 11:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
As one looks that group, it occurs to me that the impenetrability of laws made and interpreted by them is a self-sustaining money machine.
In my opinion it's all a perfect argument for putting legislation on public view for an enforced period before it's voted on.
The good news is that I think you'll find few rent seekers in the Fortune 400.
February 9, 2009 7:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Don't confuse putting one's hand out and grabbing some of the money as it crosses the table (what lawyers do) with getting the government to print money and hand it over (what bankers do -- at least, those on Wall Street) or to favor real estate investment over invention and entrepreneurship (what the Trumps of the world do).
The latter is "rent seeking."
February 9, 2009 8:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
February 9, 2009 11:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
I asked my original question, shooter242, because I sense you are suffering from "false consciousness," that you are "reifying" the term earnings and ascribing a moral character to that abstraction.
If, as I believe, the greatest portion of the "earnings" of the wealthiest among us is the product not of the production of goods and services but rather of the acquisition of direct and indirect government benefits, then, I cannot see why you are so emphatic and so self-assured in your denunciations of anyone who would seek to recover that portion.
Please explain.
February 9, 2009 1:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ellen, it's not complicated. I use the term "earnings" because it clearly defines a set of money received legitimately by dint of a particular person's efforts. Whether you think those efforts are philosophically legit or not doesn't matter. I think Taibbi's description of Daschle was apt, but I don't begrudge him his pay. Someone thought he was worth it, and a deal was struck.
On the other hand, gazillion dollar bonuses to taxpayer supported entities is a different deal. Is this the distinction you're hinting around?
February 9, 2009 3:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
People earn money by producing something others want to pay for. The wealthiest 1% in this country produce nothing at all. They earn nothing at all. Instead they make their money by manipulating money, usually money owned by others. That is real greed on display.
Any person who labors 8 hours a day has earned enough to live for that day and set aside enough to tide himself over if something unexpected occurs. But, far too many don't get paid what they have earned, because to do so would reduce the amount to be made by manipulating the money the laborer brought in to his employer. That is real greed by the employer on display.
February 8, 2009 7:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ragpicker : They don't do any work. Whenever they meet, they whisper
and then they pass each other thousand-franc notes. You see them
standing on the corner of the stock exchange. You see them at auctions-
in the back. They never raise a finger-they just stand there. In
theater lobbies, by the box office-they never go inside. They don't
DO anything, but whenever you see them, things are not the same. I
remember a time when a cabbage could sell itself just by being a cabbage.
Nowadays it's no good being a cabbage-unless you have an agent and pay
him a commission. Nothing is free any more to sell itself or give itself
away. These days, Countess, every cabbage has it's pimp.
Countess: I can't believe that.
Ragpicker : Countess, little by little, the pimps have taken over the
world. They don't do anything, they don't make anything-they just stand
there and it take their cut.
February 8, 2009 9:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
As for my part, you'll see that quite a few of the richest people in the world are also the most productive people in the world. http://www.forbes.com/2008/09/16/forbes-400-billionaires-lists-400list08_cx_mn_0917richamericans_land.html
February 8, 2009 10:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree that many of the richest people in the country are very productive. But many are also vastly overincentivized. Most would perform the same level of productive labor for significantly less money. And for those who are not willing to perform for less, there are plenty of talented and productive others standing in line ready to take their places. Some of these top earners are slightly special, but they are not that special. They can be replaced.
The unregulated salary system we have currently, which relies far too much the accumulated effect of private contracts, and encourages spontaneous cooperation among a tiny elite of top earners to form exploitative coalitions to drain as much as they can from our economy, is deeply irrational and economically inefficient. As a society, we are throwing resources away on unnecessarily extravagant salaries, and can do better.
I would suggest we start by implementing a 30 to 1 rule: a rule requiring that no individual in a company can receive salary and benefits more than 30 times the value of the least paid full time employee. If 30 to 1 works, we can consider dialing it down to 25 to 1 or 20 to 1. Legislating this rule would maintain a level playing field. As long as all corporations are in the same boat, talented chief executives can't bargain the salary structure ever upwards by threatening to go elsewhere. A 30 to 1 rule would also bind top executives to their employees, and provide them with the right incentives for increasing salaries across the board.
February 9, 2009 10:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
No, there aren't plenty of talented and productive others standing in line ready to take their place. If that were the case they'd all be pursuing their own businesses. And of all those that do, something like half fail the first year. Dan, running a business, creating jobs and making a profit are hugely difficult, and very few are any good at it.
We? There is no "we" here unless you are a stockholder. Whatever someone gets paid is up to the company and the board. Feel free to buy some stock and raise hell, but otherwise it's none of your business. Pun intended. Dan, in a free society, you can't mandate that sort of thing. Cuba yes. China yes. Zimbabwe yes. USA no. Perhaps you could think less like a dictator for life and more like person responsible for lots of lives, all dependent upon the whim of fickle consumers.
February 9, 2009 11:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
I do indeed work in the business world, shooter, and have seen enough of success and failure, stagnation and innovation, productivity and inefficiency, to know at least something about how they work. I also know my own limitations, and appreciate the superior talents of others.
While running a business is more of a group effort than you seem to allow, I accept that there are some very challenging jobs in the upper management level requiring relatively rare talents, and that as a society we need to attract the right kind of talent to those positions. But the fact is, if you pay someone $500,000 to do that job, they will do it and count themselves blessed, so long as they don't have the opportunity to take their skills to another firm offering them $1 million or $2 million. We can write rules that forego that kind of bidding at the high end.
I disagree that these sorts of decisions are not my business. These decisions, aggregated across the whole society, determine the shape of the world in which I and my loved ones have to live. I am free to work with others through the democratic process to rewrite the rules of economic engagement to suit my preferences, and to bring about what appears to my best judgment as the most optimal social arrangements. You are are, of course, free to try to stop us.
As for throwing valuable resources away, I do think that "we" are doing that. The rules under which businesses currently operate - what they are required to do and what they are permitted to do - reflect the social choices we have made. If a board is legally empowered to make a decision on executive compensation without government interference, that is because we have chosen laws that give them that power. Laws can be changed. We can legislate changes in those rules if we can convince enough other people that the changes make sense, and would be good for most of us.
I do not aspire to dictatorial powers, for myself or anyone else. I believe in democratic government. In a genuine democracy people have the capacity to govern themselves as a community, and to establish the framework of laws and regulations under which economic activity takes place. The degree of regulation or deregulation they choose is a matter of finding what combination of rules works best to produce the outcomes they desire.
My views on economic rationality are in part drawn from my experiences in the business world. Every successful business has struck a balance between individual initiative, on the one hand, and long and short run planning and coordination, on the other. Our entire society is a kind of economic enterprise, and needs to find the same balance has been struck too far in the direction of unregulated individual and corporate decision-making, without sufficient regard to the strategic economic goals of the entire society.
I'm not so enamored of the particular kinds of freedom that are your highest priority, and don't share your estimation of how free our "free society" actually is. In my view, we have sacrificed too much of one kind of freedom - the freedom that comes from the liberation of collective productive potential, and the preservation of democratic equality - for the freedom of decentralized individual initiative.
February 9, 2009 2:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wish it were possible to limit executive pay, but, for those who are not sucking at the taxpayer teat, I don't believe it is. However, one thing is very possible, and that is to reinstate progressive taxation of income, with "income" being defined as compensation in any form. There was a time when the highest tax bracket was 90% or about that, and even though the loopholes were such that only those with exceedingly poor tax accountants ever paid that rate, that bracket did help to limit compensation.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/02/breaking_the_back_of_the_elites.php shows that even well recognized economists understand that our economy today is an utter mess, and nothing is proposed yet that would clean up the mess. A healthy dose of common sense would go a long way in aiding that clean up.
February 9, 2009 2:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
OK, I've got to ask. Do you think about what the reaction to that would be? Do you give any thought at all? Or do you just throw stuff out there to sound progressive and such.
One Congressman asked the CBO how much money a 100% tax on incomes over $200,000 would bring to the treasury. What do you think they said?
February 9, 2009 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
"OK, I've got to ask. Do you think about what the reaction to that would be? Do you give any thought at all? Or do you just throw stuff out there to sound progressive and such."
Let me toss that back at you. What do you believe would be the reaction? You seem to just throw stuff out there, yourself.
I think the reaction to a moderate increase in high end overall income rates would be an initial shock followed by acceptance.
February 9, 2009 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
As for dictating what a maximum salary should be, I don't have to stop you. There are courts to do that sort of thing. "Restraint of trade" springs to mind.
February 9, 2009 3:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Restraint of trade laws are just laws, shooter. They can be changed. Very little of our economic system is embedded in the Constitution. Most of it can be changed through ordinary, constitutionally protected politics.
Here's my explanation of terms:
"collective productive potential"
A group of people have the capacity to produce more by working cooperatively on an organized project than can be produced by all those people working separately. They have a collective potential which is not the sum of their individual potentials.
When we produce some great thing, that liberates us from the deprived state of affairs that obtained when we lacked that thing. If we build a sea wall, we liberate ourselves from the fear of a deluge. If we systematically forgo many such kinds of liberation because we are more interested in preserving the liberty of acting autonomously and independently, we ignore a lot of untapped potential, and we may be behaving stupidly.
I really don't think I have to say much about "preservation of democratic equality". Democracy depends on a rough equality of power in a society. If some individuals have vastly more power than others, the society is not democratic, but is a despotism or oligarchy. Power and wealth are interrelated. No society has ever devised a means of preventing large disparities in wealth from becoming large disparities in power. To preserve democratic equality requires an effort to preserve economic balance.
By "decentralized individual initiative", I mean the only kind of initiative libertarians seem to value: the initiative of individuals rather than groups, and initiative that is exercised on the local scene without any central coordination. Large social and government initiatives bug them.
February 9, 2009 5:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
This blog entry is excellent, well argued, one of Hundt's very best -- except that it suffers from intellectual honesty, to wit:
"I agree that "stimulus" is not a well-chosen word for the critical legislation that Congress simply must pass."
Hundt is correct in characterizing the legislation as an omnibus bill which attempts to correct eight (maybe fourteen) years of "starve the beast" underfunding. And of course, some of the spending it calls for will have a salutary, stimulative effect on the economy -- how could it not? But it is not, as Hundt aptly notes, a "stimulus" bill.
As long as Obama and the Congressional Democrats refuse to inform the American people of the full amount of the stimulus the economy needs and further, that spending on infrastructure can never get that amount in circulation in time to save us, then, the American people, unled and confused, will be swayed by whoever, at the moment, holds the microphone.
Stop blaming the Republicans. The fault is closer to home.
February 8, 2009 8:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
It can be in time to save some of us. But I agree, it would be best to drop GOP-ish vernacular.
February 8, 2009 9:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
As long as Obama and the Democrats refuse to tell the American people the full extent of the entire situation, the Banks, the economy and the corporations involvement, the American people will not trust anything coming out of Washington.
C
February 8, 2009 9:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nobody in DC is leveling with the American people because to do so would be to admit, again in a very bi-partisan way, that our leaders not only allowed this to happen but were a big part in causing it to happen. This stuff is bound to happen in any political system where; giving money to politicians = protected free speech.
February 8, 2009 10:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now you are digging down near the roots! All we need now is a substitute for those roots. I don't believe public financing of campaigning is an answer, because the candidates will spend what they have, in addition to the public financing.
Tossing the Supreme Court decisions that declared spending money to be "free speech", and corporations to be human beings with all of the rights of other human beings, would most likely make this whole problem go away.
February 9, 2009 2:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent blog post. But what are the chances that the correct and "moral" things will be actually done? What are the chances that the top will pass on its usual take for the greater good....this time. Even though it's necessary I see no signs that it will finally occur. I'm not proud of being pessimistic, but we should face reality: change will not come the way we need it.
February 8, 2009 11:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mr. Hundt,
You are a Washington insider. I've read that you are or were serving in an advisory capacity to the new administration and in this piece you have repeated something I never cease to be amazed at which is the following:
"Unfortunately, the Republicans insist that the Senate must amass 60 votes to pass anything."
So make no effort to do what is right? Just surrender in advance of the battle being joined even for a moment? What the hell is this? Romper room?
It is not the Republicans insisting on 60 votes that makes the obstacle it has become. It is the Democrats sitting passively by, doing nothing about it and allowing the Republican minority to dictate terms to the majority. Out here in flyover country we call that doin things bass ackwards or letting the tail wag the dawg as it were. It's simply unfathomable that a party as despised and powerless as the Republican Party is right now, can manage to intimidate and manipulate and dictate to the majority party and the newly elected and extraordinarily popular new President on the new adminstration's number one priority. Unfathomable!
What is it that makes insider Democrats in DC just throw up their hands and act as though nothing can be done if the unendingly powerful Republicans threaten fillibuster? Is their some shortage of testosterone in the majority leader's office? Let the fuckers fillibuster till they're blue in the face! And let them do it the old fashioned way, around the clock, so the entire friggin world can see what they are up to. Use their idiotic obstructionism against them by making it as apparent as possible that they are completely bereft of ideas and seek only to damage our President and the United States of America. As it is, this acquiescence in advance serves to shielf Republican misbehavior from expsosure to the broader public and makes them seem both more powerful than they are and one helluva lot more reasonable than they are. I don't think I could cook up a more glaringly self defeating strategy than that which the Democrats cleave so closely to and have throughout the Reid ascendancy in the Senate.
Capitulating in advance to these cheap threats only gives aid and comfort to the enemy and makes Democrats look like the gutless wonders they apparently are. What other conclusion could a reasonable oberserver reach? Then, on top of this embarassingly weak position, having DC insiders like yourself repeating the mamby pamby excuse as though it were something other than a lame excuse only encourages more weakness and cowering in the corner by Congressional Democrats and more threats and misbehavior by the Republican cracker rackateers. One would think the Senate and DC Democrats would have more self respect, but obviously they don't. And it certainly engenders nothing but contempt for the Democrats on the part of the Repulican sociopaths. Why would anyone want to encourage this unhealthy pattern of behavior on either side of the aisle by repeating the bogus assertion that if the Republicans insist on 60 votes for anything then we are powerless?
It has always been true since time immemorial that the only way to deal with bullies is to stand up to them. When somebody finally stands up to them they may get their nose a little bloodied, but more likely once the bully sees you mean business and that you're right happy to scrap with em anytime they care to, they shut their big fat mouths, turn around, and slink away. Nothing has changed. But it appears there isn't a soul on the Democratic side of the Senate who understands this or who has enough balls to stand up to the party of bullying, nitwit, neoconfederate crackers which means the entire nation is then held hostage to those bozos because of the cowardice of Harry Reid and those that find him to be a suitable leader. It's embarassing to watch even from out here in the hinterlands.
Someone like you obviously has the brains to know that Democrats don't have to put up with that crap. There are alternatives to pre-emptive surrender. We could choose to fight the sons o bitches for one thing. It's better to lose with honor while standing up for what you believe in than to be humiliated time after time after time and never even attempt to defend yourself. But the great thing is ya see, sometimes when you fight, you actually win. I think it's been so long since that's happened none of the people in charge on the Democratic side in DC understand that anymore. It's kind of like the lottery: "if you don't play, you can't win!" Well, in politics if you don't fight for what you believe in, it will never come to pass and you won't ever win. Seems a simple enough concept to me. Why is it so hard for DC Dems to understand?
Making matters worse in my opinion, people like you go on repeating the BS line that because the Republicans insist everything get 60 votes we are helpless and can do nothing about it. Bah! You can play hardball and/or hit em back instead of begging for mercy! It really is tiresome to keep hearing this lame excuse for failure and surrender offered up as cover for pure cowardice.
If you know of anybody over there in DC needing some pointers on how to stand up and fight for what you believe in I think there's probably about 20 million of us outside the beltway types who would love to show ya how to go about it. What exactly is it going to take for DC Democrats to grow a pair and start taking charge? Really!
February 9, 2009 12:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
pure cowardice.
It does make one grind one's teeth...
I want to see those bleary eyed alta kakers going hoarse, growing stubble, doin' the Jimmy Stewart stagger.
I want to see a Dow bug plunge past 6500 while they tie up the entire US Government.
I don't want to see that sorry excuse for a punch drunk pug, Harry Reid, come out and whine.
February 9, 2009 11:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
"I agree that "stimulus" is not a well-chosen word"
That's why it's called a Recovery bill. Sheeesh.
I confess my eyes glazed over at all the words which didn't seem to go anywhere. Maybe as I age I'm joining the MTV generation. :(
But I liked the feel of the closing paragraph!
February 9, 2009 3:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Building public schools is not an investment in the future, Reed. It is pure, naked socialism. As Collins and her party have made clear during the past thirty years, education is a personal matter. That's why we have private schools.
February 9, 2009 11:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
"promote the general welfare" is pure socialism? Okay.
February 9, 2009 4:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mr. Hundt's thesis here seems really stupid here. When you're in a liquidity trap, building a foundation for the future is nice, but it's secondary to the goal of keeping the economy from changing state. Once you drop out of the high-employment, high-GDP state into the low-employment, low-GDP one, all the foundational spending isn't going to get you back up in a time that's consistent with US election cycles.
Oh, and for lack of safety-net funding at the state level, you'll get a rather serious level of excess deaths.
February 9, 2009 12:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
"But it's absolutely obvious to non-Washington Americans that our country needs investment in the basic, public goods available to all Americans"
But, in all honesty, that's not at all what this bill does, is it? It seems meant to plug a hole in the economy and truthfully is neither "stimulus" nor substantially thought out "investment."
Maybe Democrats should have pitched it as what it is--the Main Street disaster aversion component of TARP.
February 9, 2009 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
In fact, I object to the whole "public investment vs tax cuts" framing of this bill because it permits all these bozos to pretend that we're dealing in business as usual rather than with a particular situation with a particular precipitating cause.
And call me crazy, but it seems to me that job losses of 500,000 a month are the issue not, say, funding pre-K. I honestly don't see why these 500,000 people newly out of work should give a rat's butt about pre-K. I bet they do care about where their next job is likely to be.
But, sure. I guess Congress should pass it already and just hope that people who really get screwed in this recession--or whatever it's going to end up being-- don't mind too much what is or isn't in it.
February 9, 2009 1:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why do conspiracymongers always suppose that knaves cannot be fools as well? If Collins and Snowe and Specter are gettin' their strings pulled by the Learned Elders of Voodoonomics, then I am Marie of Roumania.
Repeat ten times before each meal: "Republicans are simply not that smart!"
Happy days.
February 9, 2009 6:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Originally the Texas Senate opposed the actions of the State Congress, until the Congressmen asked if they would like to “step outside.” After a brief scuffle behind the Capitol building, the Senate agreed and ratified the secession. Texas secession has been a hot issue for decades. This time, the cry for Texas secession is getting a little bit louder. Governor Rick Perry has released a statement in the wake of the numerous "tea parties" over taxes that have broken out all over the nation. He's more or less intimated that it might get brought up later, and it's doubtful there will be military loans for new border construction. (If they try, they won't likely succeed.) The talks of Texas secession are more likely a prompt to get the Federal Government to repair credit with certain factions.
April 24, 2009 5:01 AM | Reply | Permalink