How and (How Not) to Assess Israel's Moral Self-Destruction
Israel's blind, crushing, doomed war on Gaza has ended the Jewish people's 65-year-long reprieve from anti-Semitism since the Holocaust, a reprieve that encompassed most of our lifetimes, during which even dedicated Jew-haters bit their tongues.
No more. Amid the cacophony of justified condemnations we hear the strains of an older, creepier chorus. It is not too much to say that Israel has brought this upon itself, but it is also not too much to say that some rather perverse people have wanted and orchestrated it, as well.
I don't mean that strong critics of Israel should quiet down. It's long past time to break the U.S. media's taboo on talking about Israel's blunders as frankly as Israelis themselves famously do. I do mean to say that Israel's conduct of this war would be hideous and heartbreaking enough without the encouragement it's getting not only from its impassioned and sometimes duplicitous defenders but also from from critics who don't know their history and sometimes sound as if they don't really want to know.
And there is a deeper political problem: Like the bloody combatants of the IDF and Hamas and Hezbollah, word warriors on both sides don't see that the odds of winning justice through state violence and through wars of liberation have sunk since World War II. The commentators' blindness is as willful as the commanders'. And as fateful. And not just for Palestinians or Jews. (I discussed this subject for 20 minutes with Brian Lehrer on New York's NPR station last night. Here it is.)
Look with me briefly at an accomplished writer on each side of this war -- Chris Hedges, a scourge of Israel, and Jeff Goldberg, a sinuous defender. Then look at how Abraham Burg and Jonathan Schell argue, far more constructively -- and from no less experience -- that although human nature hasn't changed, the costs and consequences of violence have, as have the most effective ways to defeat tyranny and secure human dignity.
You may not think that we need to hear from such dreamers at a moment like this. But Burg and Schell are the realists. Historic shifts in freedom's always cloudy prospects have confounded not only grand strategists and their apologists in national-security states (Britain, the U.S., the U.S.S.R., and fortress Israel), but also guerrillas and supporters of national-liberation movements (in China, Vietnam, Nicaragua, and Palestine).
Neither group seems aware that movements led by Gandhi, King, Mandela (after prison), Havel, Michnick and the principals in Northern Ireland have re-constituted and re-defined political power away from violence, sidelining established tyrannies and the would-be tyrants and nihilists within their own movements.
Writers and observers can help this transition if they believe that creative, disciplined non-violence isn't merely a dream of chumps, naifs, or schlemiels. Tough, savvy veterans of conflict have shown that we don't have to rush toward the dead ends toward which the combatants and enablers of IDF and Hamas are beckoning us.
In 2002, amid the war on terror and the run-up to the Iraq war, Chris Hedges, a former New York Times war correspondent in Bosnia, Latin America, and Israel, published his mordantly titled book War is a Force That Gives us Meaning. More recently, he has published American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America and a torrent of articles about injustices perpetrated by elites at home and abroad, not least through and by Israel.
Characteristic of Hedges' torrent of condemnations is this passage from "The Language of Death," a Jan. 12 post in Truthdig:
"The incursion into Gaza is not about destroying Hamas. It is not about stopping rocket fire into Israel. It is not about achieving peace. The Israeli decision to rain death and destruction on Gaza, to use the lethal weapons of the modern battlefield on a largely defenseless civilian population, is the final phase of the decades-long campaign to ethnically cleanse Palestinians. The assault on Gaza is about creating squalid, lawless and impoverished ghettos where life for Palestinians will be barely sustainable. It is about building ringed Palestinian enclaves where Israel will always have the ability to shut off movement, food, medicine and goods to perpetuate misery. The Israeli attack on Gaza is about building a hell on earth."
Hedges may well have read the cooler but otherwise wholly compatible assessment of Israel's 42-year mishandling of Gaza which I showcased here on January 4, by Darryl Li, a former public information officer for the Palestinian Center for Human Rights. Hedges and Li could do more to advance justice if they'd help us answer questions about violent resistance such as the following:
Is Hamas is what it is mainly because Israel's policies are what they are? Or is there more to learn from a serious account of how and why Zionism and Palestinian nationalism arose at the same time?
Would Hedges (and Li) prefer a two-state solution, or Israel's absorption into a bi-national, democratic state whose majority would be Palestinian? If they'd prefer the latter, would human rights and civil rights fare better there than they have under Israeli occupation and for Israel's 1.5 million Arab citizens within the 1967 borders? What new balance of Israeli responsibility and Israeli-Palestinian interdependency might release these enemies from their degrading mutual loathing?
When Israelis say that they see no Palestinian or Arab disposition to serious self-government, to what extent are they right? To what extent are they just racist? To what extent are they rationalizing their expulsions of Palestinians in 1948 and their obsession about their own security at the expense of everyone else's? Have they been devoured by war as a force that gives them meaning? Won't peace depend on getting the balance of truth right as much as it does on condemning the fighting?
Finally, does Hedges, who often recounts his first-hand witness of Israeli soldiers shooting Palestinian children for sport, think it inevitable that every drop of blood drawn by the oppressor's lash will be avenged with blood drawn by the Arab sword, perhaps until Israelis are driven into the sea, having brought their destruction upon themselves? Does Hedges also accept the 19th-century blood-and-soil assumption that Jews never belonged in the Middle East, anyway? Or does he see a better way to reconcile power and justice?
I have read some of Hedges' and Li's writings, but I haven't yet found their answers to such questions. I do know enough to say that the passage I've quoted from Hedges has to do not only with Israel and Palestine but also with his well-justified but not-so-well focused rage at injustice and hypocrisy in the world, especially the kind sown by the American national-security state and its apologists. Hedges has become a volcano, erupting in Truthdig, Harper's, and elsewhere.
Recently, for example, he wrote with molten fury of the supercilious disdain he'd experienced at the hands of preppies and parvenus while in college. He has also laced into "America the Illiterate," the Christian right, Bush's nuclear apocalypse, fellow war correspondents, and more.
Hedges, who grew up in Maine and in rural parishes in upstate New York, where his father was a Presbyterian minister, comes from a tough, old, working-class Yankee culture for which I have a fond if somewhat testy regard. A one-time Harvard Divinity School student, Hedges erupts along the venerable if somewhat wearying lines of a New England Puritan jeremiad, the denunciatory sermon whose purpose, in the hands of such latter-day Puritans as the abolitionists William Lloyd Garrison and Harriet Beecher Stowe, has been to blast open new pathways to redemption on earth, if not in heaven.
America would be poorer and meaner without these prophets. They strengthened Lincoln's melancholy commitment to the divine inexorability of bloody justice, steeling him to fight the Civil War to its bitter end. But who is The Union in Palestine, and who are the Rebels? Israel in Gaza now resembles Sherman in Atlanta, but if you look around just a bit, you find that Hezbollah, Hamas, and Iran have been playing a long, slow game to turn the tables. They are tramping out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored, and the demographic and now moral odds will soon favor their theocratic, blood-and-soil vindication.
Hedges knows that his own ancestral Yankee Protestantism blessed the dispossession and slaughter of the inhabitants of the lands his family now calls home. He knows that it also anticipated and encouraged Zionism. The Rev. George Bush, for example, a New Hampshire Presbyterian by upbringing, the fifth-generation lineal antecedent of our departing president, and the first professor of Hebrew and Arabic at New York University in 1835, wrote a long tract on the Book of Ezekiel that foretold the restoration of the Jews to Palestine from all over the world for Armageddon.
If Hedges (and certain editors at Harper's and Truthdig) feel even subliminally that they have a thing or two to live down, displace or project onto the Jews, the stars certainly have certainly aligned right for eruptions like Hedges' most recent post.
But there is more to it than that. My own sense is that both Israel and Palestine will have to undergo their own civil wars to defeat the fanaticism that is now driving them, but Hedges' anger seems to have driven him to a somewhat reductionist analysis of causes and consequences. A similar moralism sometimes led supporters of "national liberation movements" to look away when those movements became brutal, tyrannical and even genocidal, in lands we thought they had liberated, but I cannot say that Hedges has gone that far. Rather, he confines his blame of Hamas to an elliptical line or two. He does give Israeli dissidents some credit, but he seems to hold no more hope for them than he does blame for Hamas.
A few days after Hedges' condemnation of Israel appeared in Truthdig, the New York Times op-ed page ran Jeffrey Goldberg's "Why Israel Can't Make Peace With Hamas." There, as in virtually every article of Goldberg's I can recall, we learn that Goldberg, a Long-Island-born Israeli army veteran, has once again defied amazing personal dangers - as he did in the African bush, in Lebanon, in Gaza, and more - and walked right up to question people who, he gives us to understand, would just as soon slit his throat as squint at him. In a variation on this theme, other Goldberg articles parade his apparently easy familiarity with great leaders, from John McCain to Ehud Olmert, who for some reason talk to him as frankly they would in a private conversation with a brother-in-law.
I can't pretend to account for how Goldberg accomplishes these journalistic feats, but I do think I can take account of what they accomplish. If Hedges has become a volcano of denunciations of American imperialism and elitism and its spawn, Goldberg has become a geyser of irresistibly entertaining, informative, cagey, and often duplicitous neo-con explanations for everything, from the likelihood of a Saddam-Osama connection or of the fractured nobility of McCain's presidential bid to the Israelis' damned-if-we-do, damned-if-we-don't bravery in the face an Arab world that, we are assured, has wanted to exterminate them since long before 1948, let alone 1967 or last month.
The one exception to Goldberg's neo-conservative propagandizing I can recall is a chilling piece he wrote for The New Yorker in 2004 about fanatical Jewish settlers on the West Bank. He has not written for the New Yorker for awhile now and seems more comfortable with the crypto-conservative Atlantic Monthly, where he has a blog, and with such crypto-conservative New York Times opinion editors as Chris Suellentrop and Sam Tanenhaus, who, in that paper's titanic struggle with Rupert Murdoch, have embedded themselves among its liberals somewhat as Allah's enforcers have embedded themselves in a Palestinian population that is now not so happy to have them. It is thanks to such editors that we have no shortage of op-ed pieces by Donald Rumsfeld, Douglas Feith, or the American Enterprise Institute's Danielle Pletka. And they have certainly opened the spigot for Goldberg.
In yesterday's Times op ed Goldberg reintroduced us to the late Hamas chieftain Nizar Rayyan -- "husband of four, father of 12, scholar of Islam and unblushing executioner," an "important recruiter of suicide bombers until Israel killed him two weeks ago" - who in 2006, Goldberg tells us with feigned nonchalance, "confessed to me one of his frustrations." Rayyan despised his fellow Palestinians in Fatah as sell-outs to the Jews, whom he told Goldberg are descended from pigs and apes and are "a curse to anyone who lives near them."
Ever self-dramatizing, Goldberg wants us to marvel that Rayyan even talked with him - and talked theology with him, no less! He certainly makes clear that Hamas' intractable belief system discredits Israeli leaders' expectation that "Hamas can be bombed into moderation." But he hastens to add, on the evidence of the same fanaticism which he has so entertainingly presented, that "Hamas cannot be cajoled into moderation," either.
"The only small chance for peace today," Goldberg concludes somewhat airily, "is the same chance that existed before the Gaza invasion: The moderate Arab states, Europe, the United States, and mainly, Israel, must help Hamas' enemy, Fatah, prepare the West Bank for real freedom, and then hope that the people of Gaza, vast numbers of whom are unsympathetic to Hamas, see the West bank as an alternative to the squalid vision of [Hezbollah in Lebanon] and Nizar Rayyan."
Does Goldberg really have any faith in this hope, which he twirls like a velvet cape in concluding his frightening performance? Mightn't this have been the moment to raise the possibility that Israel's invasion of Gaza has discredited Fatah and its leader Mahmoud Abbas, who is now widely thought by Palestinians fleeing Israeli bombs to be the obsequious collaborator with Israel that Rayyan always claimed he is?
Mightn't this also have been the moment for Goldberg to note that Malcolm X and Louis Farrakhan, of the Nation of Islam, both subscribed to the same theology that considered whites, and especially Jews, as descendants of pigs and apes? Goldberg might then have noted that Malcolm changed toward the end of his life and that, last summer, Farrakhan made a penitential, almost obsequious endorsement of Barack Hussein Obama, who exemplifies for Muslims and Jews a peace-making way to campaign which Goldberg didn't understand or expect would win.
No matter, for surely Goldberg's Times piece has had its intended effect: It has cajoled or scared at least some liberal Times readers into concluding Israel must fight in Gaza to the bitter end.
Maybe so, and maybe Goldberg's scoop on the thinking of Rayyan explains why. Except that, on January 2, shortly after Rayyan was killed, Chris Hedges wrote, in Truthdig, "I often visited Nizar Rayan...who would meet me in his book-lined study...." Hedges is a lot more regretful than Goldberg that when Israeli F-16s attacked that house, Rayan "was decapitated in the blast. His body was thrown into the street by the explosions. His four wives and 11 children also were killed." Other reports, including Goldberg's say that two of the four wives were killed, but Hedges is engaging in literary protest as much as reporting. When he acknowledges briefly some things about Rayan that would lead most of us to conclude he had to be stopped, you know that a "but" is coming:
"Rayan supported tactics, including suicide bombings, which are morally repugnant. His hatred of Israel ran deep. His fundamentalist brand of Islam was distasteful. But as he and I were students of theology our discussions frequently veered off into the nature of belief, Islam, the Koran, the Bible and the religious life. He was a serious, thoughtful man who had suffered deeply under the occupation and dedicated his life to resistance. He could have fled his home and gone underground with other Hamas leaders. Knowing him, I suspect he could not leave his children. Like him or not, he had tremendous courage."
The rest of Hedges' "but" is his description of Gaza City itself. Here he rises briefly to reportage of the kind Orwell might have given us, on the deprivation and squalor which Israel has enforced upon Gaza. He doesn't question whether recruiting suicide bombers is a more effective a response, any more than Goldberg questions whether Rayyan's fanaticism justifies Israel's destruction of Gaza City and so many innocent people whom Israel itself had penned up in the area.
Both Hedges and Goldberg know of Avraham Burg, the former Knesset Speaker and head of the Jewish Agency and World Zionist Organization. An officer in the paratroop corps, Burg became disillusioned with the Lebanon war of 1982. In1983, he was wounded by a grenade, not in Lebanon but in a Peace Now demonstration he'd joined in Jerusalem. Both Hedges and Goldberg need a long sit-down with him now.
Hedges needs it because Burg, who shares most of his criticisms of the Israeli government and public, could broaden his understanding, sensibility, and horizons. And Goldberg needs it because Burg, who knows everything he does about Israel's enemies and more, has reached different conclusions about how Israel should respond.
Here I must let Burg speak for himself, as I did Darryl Li of the Palestinian Center for Human Rights on January 4. Then I will close with a few words about the writer and Yale lecturer Jonathan Schell, a veteran war correspondent in his own right and a brilliant expositor of the new prospects for re-balancing power and violence.
In a recent column for the Israeli daily Haaretz entitled, "Why the West Can't Win," Burg writes the following, as only Israelis, who've all served together in a citizen army, can sometimes write to one another but as the Times op ed's Suellentrop (who has just moved to the paper's Sunday magazine) seldom let anyone write in the Times:
"Beyond the two piles of bodies and the mourning and bereavement of both peoples, through the fragmented voices of Israel's leadership, it's already possible to feel the sour taste of the next combat loss. We haven't won anything since the Six-Day War. We managed to be saved from disaster in 1973, we got ensnared but survived in 1982, and there is no lack of other examples.....
"I think it's no longer possible to win wars. We're not the only ones who can't; the West as a whole is incapable of doing so. It's hard for me to remember a single war in the past 60 years that the United States clearly and decisively won..... Hiroshima and Nagasaki were destroyed, and from there the West embarked on a new path.
"Western Europe almost totally abandoned the war option. It doesn't fight, and in any case isn't assessed on the basis of its ability to win wars. The United States, by contrast, went from isolationism to being the country chiefly responsible for Western state-sponsored violence. It.... knows better than anyone how to deploy its forces to the starting line, but from there onward something always gets messed up. Korea wasn't a wonderful victory, Vietnam ended in disgrace, and the Gulf wars are not considered great military achievements.
"It looks like something in the DNA of the West no longer allows it to declare war like it used to do.... The wars of the previous century, along with the Holocaust of European Jewry, taught the West several lessons, central among which is the abolition of the doctrine of war; the West went from destroying and humiliating the enemy to maintaining [the enemy's] ability to rehabilitate itself, preserve its dignity, change and become a partner instead of a rival.
".... That's where the new type of victory began - the kind that doesn't wipe out the possibility of dialogue with yesterday's rival. ..... The question remains as to how a just society fights enemies who do not share the same value system, and how to redefine what victory is.
"It seems to me that if the goal of a war is the destruction of the enemy, it is a war that is doomed to fail. For reasons that are well-known to us, it is no longer possible to annihilate nations or at least suppress their aspirations of independence. .... And if no dialogue with the enemy develops, then the war must be deemed a failure.
"It therefore appears that Israel's leadership in the Gaza war is due to fail in our names - just like the Palestinian religious leaders ushering their people to another failure rooted in ignoring the metamorphosis of the concept of victory, from subduing to talking, from slaughtering to bridge-building. Just as bridges were ultimately built above the tempestuous waters between Pearl Harbor and Hiroshima, between Dresden and London, and between Catholic and Protestant Dublin, there is a bridge between Sderot and Gaza. Those who do not tread on it will lead their nations to failure in all their wars."
But what is that bridge, when Gazans are being bludgeoned into submission and when Israel is facing Hezbollah's 30,000 rockets to its North, Hamas' intransigence to its South, a rising proportion of increasingly disaffected Arabs within its own borders, and Iran's connivances and nuclear ambitions to its East?
For those chastened and disciplined enough to go beyond Hedges' logic of Puritan condemnation of the beleaguered and somewhat paranoid Israelis and beyond Goldberg's logic of jaunty neo-conservative defiance, Jonathan Schell's The Unconquerable World is the best way to survey the history and emerging premises of the very different logic that guided Gandhi, King, the later Mandela, the European dissidents, and the peacemakers of Northern Ireland.
Schell does not address the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but perhaps that's for the best. He does show how peoples that were as oppressed, beleaguered, and overpowered as the Palestinians managed to neutralize or even win over their venomous oppressors without eliminating them, and, indeed, without much bloodshed.
They managed to combine deep faith and disciplined social organizing - the kind Rudy Giuliani mocked at the Republican convention - with a Gandhian and a Hannah Arendtian understanding that power comes ultimately not from those who give orders but from those who obey them or replace them with a different, fairer order that grows from their own insistence on relationships of trust and democratic dialogue.
People long accustomed to obey others can and do learn instead how to act together, through an inner, inevitably somewhat spiritual as well as democratic faith that's disciplined enough to sustain power through mutual trust, not through reliance on outside ecclesiastical and military authorities that promise to save them from one another. In our own lifetimes, people who have learned this discipline have been able to dissolve vast systems of authority that had shrunk their freedom with false promises of deliverance.
Is it a fool's errand in the Middle East? Not necessarily, especially considering the alternatives. Again, Hedges, although he does not mention Burg, acknowledges Israeli dissidents like Ury Avneri, Gideon Levy, and Tom Segev, who, while sometimes threatened, have not been drowned out in the cacophony of Israeli debate. Many Israeli democrats are neither foolish nor embittered. It would be irresponsible of Americans who are disillusioned with Israel not to find ways to support them vigorously instead of savoring jeremiadically the prospect of Israel's destruction for its sins.
Whether or not the Muslim world can produce a Ghandi or a Mandela remains to be seen, but stories like Goldberg's are being written and published by people who do not believe that it can happen and want to spare anyone the thought that it can. In commentators as well as commanders, that kind of blindness sheds blood, and it licenses people who should know better to equate Jews with something they are not, but something they have come to resemble..















You speak as one who's main concern is from Israel. Israel has become a thorn in the side of the United States. We owe them nothing and should let them stew in their own by ending all financial and military support. Perhaps then they will find some way to reconcile with their environment.
January 15, 2009 10:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
I't actually just high-class naval gazing. We are supposed to feel sorry for Israel for being unable to achieve its strategic goals by the use of War Crimes.
The number of Palestinian children whom are victims of IDF small arms fire is instructive. See http://turcopolier.typepad.com/
So expect more kvetching about Israeli "morality."
January 15, 2009 10:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Long article, I will try to make some comments.
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Neither group seems aware that movements led by Ghandi, King, Mandela (after prison), Havel, Michnick and the principals in Northern Ireland have re-constituted and re-defined political power away from violence, sidelining established tyrannies and the would-be tyrants and nihilists within their own movements.
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Can't compare any of these people with the Arab/Israeli conflict. Gandhi and King had the good fortune to confront democracies that really had a committment to human rights. It was just a matter of getting the governments to really live up to what was their official ideology anyway.
Northern Ireland got peace because the IRA gave up trying to drive the British out of Northern Ireland. They now accept British sovereignity there, in return for cash and political power.
Havel, although a man I much admire, had nothing to do with the fall of Communism in Czechoslovakia. The regime there was an artificial one propped up by Soviet power. Once that went, thanks to a "top-down" revolution in the USSR, Havel had no problems. The fact that Communism collapsed in the USSR, NOT due to a "people's movement" but rather, due to the Communist leaders losing the will to continue their corrupt, repressive regime, led to the easy way in which the Russian people are now accepting a return to authoritarianism.
The Israel/Arab conflict is unlike these. It is existential. The Arab/Muslim world can NOT accept a dhimmi Jewish state in their midst. The only argument between the so-called "moderates" like Abbas of the Palestinian Authority, and Mubarak, who believe Israel will collapse on its own, and the HIZBULLAH/HAMAS/IRANIAN axis is that the latter says that it needs a push of an ongoing war of attrition. Neither accepts the legitimacy of a Jewish state.
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Hedges knows that his own ancestral Yankee Protestantism blessed the dispossession and slaughter of the inhabitants of the lands his family now calls home. He knows that it also anticipated and encouraged Zionism. The Rev. George Bush, for example, a New Hampshire Presbyterian by upbringing, the fifth-generation lineal antecedent of our departing president, and the first professor of Hebrew and Arabic at New York University in 1835, wrote a long tract on the Book of Ezekiel that foretold the restoration of the Jews to Palestine from all over the world for Armaggedon.
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Very interesting. I knew that Bush's ancestor was a minister, but I didn't know about his interest in Zionism. It is important to realize that practical Zionism started in the 1830's and 1840's in the US and Britain. President Lincoln came out in support. But this shows the close links between the US and Zionism go back a long way, to the early days of the Republic.
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But there is more to it than that. My own sense is that both Israel and Palestine will have to undergo their own civil wars to defeat the fanaticism that is now driving them,
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I don't know what "fanaticism" Jim is referring to on the Israeli side. Yes, there are "fanatical" supporters of Jewish settlement in Judea/Samaria, I would say I am probably one of them . But, living in Israel, I am day after day inundated with the fact that the "Establishment" in Israel would love nothing more than to GET RID OF JUDEA/SAMARIA and the settlers. I am sure you know this. The "fanatic" settlers and the Right have less political power today than any time since the Likud came to power in 1977. You all say the triumphalist reporting by the Israeli media of how Gush Katif was destroyed. That was the greatest moment of gloating of Israel's mainstream media in their history...the cursed "settlers" were finally "getting what they deserved". Seeing Arab mobs torching the synagogues left behind no doubt gave many in the Israeli Left the greatest pleasure of their lives. Yet, ironically, today, it is the SAME PEOPLE WHO DESTROYED GUSH KATIF WHO ARE NOW CARRYING OUT THIS WAR IN GAZA. This is a government OF the so-called "Peace Camp" One of the founders of "Peace Now" (Yuli Tamir) is serving in the Cabinet. The Right (i.e. Likud), the Orthodox/Relgious Parties (with one exception) and the "settlers" are all in the Opposition. They have nothing to do with the war. So, Jim, who exactly are the "fanatics" who are supposedly driving Israeli policy?
The Likud under Netanyahu has driven most of the ideological "right-wingers" out of the party. He is very clearly distancing himself from the "settlers". He has already promised to form a coalition, if he wins, with the Left ("Peace Camp") and not the Right. So what power do the "fanatics" really have?.
January 15, 2009 10:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
"NOT due to a "people's movement" but rather, due to the Communist leaders losing the will to continue their corrupt, repressive regime"
Wrong YBD,
The idea the communist leaders lost their will is laughable. Stoned funny. The greatest American president of the twentieth century, Ronald Reagan, used the overpowering moral force of freedom and capitalism to crush their decadent Marxist system.
January 15, 2009 5:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
I used to be one of those who championed the Israeli peacemakers and continued to find hope in them and the pragmatists who counseled talking to the enemy because they know first hand that they can be talked to.
Although, strangely, I never trusted Olmert despite his speeches and moves to establish a dialogue with Syria. I can only attribute my own skepticism to an atavistic sense that he is at core, duplitious. Tzipi Livni was another one who seemed to be of a new breed and strong enough to take the risks to move Israel out of her isolation in the ME. She has disabused me of that notion as her unbounded arrogance during this period of political and war campaigning has shown she has learned nothing of real diplomacy during her term as Foreign Minister.
For Israel, diplomacy is a matter of stridently one-sided belligerant insistance on imposing their will with no consideration of the legitimacy of other states' self interests and laws.
This assault on Gaza has ripped away any remaining shreds of hope that Israel is in any way interested in becoming a member of the Western democratic international community she pretends to belong to. Israel doesn't have any internal or external respect for the law or understanding of democracy beyond the superficial.
Even though the deplorable Mubarak regime is full partner in preventing access to Gaza, Israel uses Egyptian airspace to atttack Gaza, injuring Egyptian children and police in the process. Israel doesn't recognize the sovereignity of Syria and Lebanon as a matter of course; but is demonstrating to the world that even her treaty with Egypt is a sham.
The recently fashionable calls from Zionist "liberals" to the Muslim world to cough up a Ghandi in order to stop Israeli brutality are contemptible. Given the actions of the IAF and worse, the IDF reservists shooting Palestinians kids and their parents waving white flags demonstrates that a pacific bunch of Arabs/Muslims would provide Israelis with easier targets.
As an American citizen, I can do nothing to affect the behavior of Israel's politcal classes, including the nuevoNazi Avigdor Lieberman who advocates nuking Gaza.
Intemperate rant over.
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But, I can train my outrage on....er....express my deep and very serious concern to my fellow Americans who are guilty of perpetuating, excusing and enabling Israeli atrocities.
Two phone calls to my Senator's local offices were instructive. While both phone reps were similiar in their tone in responding to my excrutiatingly polite, informed, nuanced and calm objections to our political support for Israel's actions, their individual reactions weren't.
Barbara Boxer's rep listened to my litany, which includes the truth of Israel's increasing isolation on the world stage, and proforma, assured me he would pass on my concerns. Not until I finally got around to mentioning that I was increasingly worried about the blowback to America and Americans did he seize on something concrete to pass on. He thanked me for that specific example and actually seemed glad for it.
Diane Feinstein's rep was the same until at what she thought would be the end of our conversation, she told be she would be sure to let the Senator know that I am "against Israel". Oops. She was treated to a mini lecture on the damage Israel was doing to herself and ugly details about shooting children, those waving white flags, etc.
The kicker was informing her about the Israeli bombing of the UN distribution center; which she called the UN "consul". It was obvious she had no idea what the hell was going on in Gaza. Now she does and perhaps has a glimmer of understanding that American support for Israel's breaking international law isn't doing Israel or US any good.
From this experience, I have gathered that there are two points that are useful to make when contacting politicians of one's own party.
The most salient one from their perspective is that our support for Israel will come back to hurt us. Another point that penetrates the fog is Israel's bombing of the UN distribution center in Gaza.
The former example demonstrates that "fears" expressed from a nationalistic, "patriotic" perspective register. The terrorists will be coming to get us and so forth.....
The latter instance works as well because of the implications of targeting THE primary internationally sanctioned institutional provider of humanitarian aid go beyond this particular conflict.
Appeals to morality and common humanity fall on deaf ears.
The call to my GOP House rep's office resulted in a 20 minute argument that his employee started, undoubtably because I told him I'm a Dem. Completely useless except that I learned that Bibi is a hero and it was sort of entertaining in a TPMCafe I/P "discussions"-with-wingnuts way; especially when I rattled off all the Israelis I use as sources for information (HUH?) and forced him to admit that this isn't a partisan issue despite his earlier kneejerkian assertions to the contrary.
He did type up the "more scared of the terrists now than ever before" rationale, however.
That one's THE winner.
January 15, 2009 5:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
I enjoyed this piece as I have been dismayed at vicarious grandstanding over military operations in the Gaza strip by American politicians who cannot even begin to deal with the realities of our own current and past, failed, wars. I guess you have to be a Southerner of Confederate heritage to reject the claim I first heard from Richard Nixon that "America has never lost a war".
Most wars are civil wars. As a "cultural conservative" and wholly orthodox Christian, I think of the First World War as Europe's civil war, more horrible and consequential than those of America.
My son is a soldier, a young officer, and lives with consequences of our pacifists' and chickenhawks' cheerleading, so far none of them seemingly as bad as they could be for him personally. I think that he and others of his peers are learning not just the futility of conventional warfare but the power of all alternatives to it, both "insurgency" and "counter-insurgency".
Part of what they are learning, I think, is that new technical conditions make justice and injustice more and less scalable than received political doctrine, including warfighting or peacemaking, tells us. That sort of surprise -- "black swan" or "Fourth Generation Warfare" stuff -- make the machinations of those in the US and Iran using Israel and Hamas as proxies and arms-trading partners hopeless. But, they also, I think, make it doubtful that representatives of propertied elites -- the civilian rentier class -- in Anglo-America or Pan-Arabia can "broker" peace by negotiating with their privileged counterparts military or civilian and trading partners in Palestine or Israel.
We are witnessing military consequences of low-level civil-economic breakdown. Dissolution of constitutional government in favor a largely incompetent but lucrative "national security state" in Anglo-America is one element of this. The fact that terrorism and counter-terrorism are the main entry-level jobs in both Palestine and Isreal is another aspect of the problem.
January 15, 2009 10:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Great post.
To which I would add: The ability of the West to control Arab populations is collapsing, so expect to hear our "thinkers" justify the ever-greater use of violence against civilians.
January 15, 2009 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
When have we ever 'controlled' an Arab population? We've liberated a couple from unspeakable horrors, but in my lifetime we've never controlled any. Excepting brief occupations during WW2.
January 15, 2009 5:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
We don't need to wait for a Palestinian Ghandi or Mandela; nor do we need to await an Israeli Gorbachev. The conflict in Israel and Palestine has been prolonged and intensified by the indulgence and connivance of outside powers, upon whom the contending parties are utterly dependent, and can be brought to an end whenever those outside powers realize their mutual interest in ending the conflict, and bring their collective influence and determination to bear behind a common plan for ending it.
January 15, 2009 10:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
'Moral' self-destruction?, Aren't you starting off here with some assumptions not in evidence?
January 15, 2009 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Jim Sleeper does better than most American commentators in recognizing Israeli wrongs, but in the context of American discourse, that's not saying much.
Mr. Sleeper makes remarkably little mention of the horrific conditions Israel has very intentionally created in Gaza.
Lest any be under the delusion that Israel has not intentionally done so, recall Shaul Mofaz's comments last year about bring the Shoah down upon Palestinians. Moreover, the blockade that has been in place since 2007 had already created starvation conditions in Gaza.
None can pretend that the blockade was "descriminate" or "targeted".
To call Israeli policy of the past 60 years "boneheaded", as Mr. Sleeper did on WNYC, is gross understatement. I am aware of no reading of international law on which Israel is _not_ committing war crimes. Many international scholars agree on this. Many who know the horrors of racist war quite well (like Bishop Desmond Tutu) have characterized Israel's actions as war crimes.
Desmond Tutu and Nelson Mandela, who certainly know more about apartheid than either Jim Sleeper or Brian Lehrer, have both characterized Israeli policy as apartheid. How many Americans know that there are "Jewish-only" roads in the West Bank?!
As for Israel's losses in the past 10 or 20 years, Palestinian losses outnumber Israeli losses by about 100 to 1. Yes: 100 to 1.
So if Mr. Sleeper is going to offer "understanding" of Israeli atrocities by appeal to Israel suffering, I take it he would offer still greater understanding of Palestinian atrocities by appeal to vastly greater Palestinian suffering.
Who can point to any report of starvation in Israel, of inadequate water supplies, of Palestinian occupation of Israeli land? This is the suffering of Palestinians. It has gone unbroken since 1967.
January 15, 2009 11:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Mr. Sleeper says he has read some of Chris Hedges' writings, and he mentions War is a Force That Gives us Meaning specifically. What isn't clear is whether or not he has read War is a Force carefully and reflectively. I believe it sets the context for everything else Hedges has writing about the human fascination with violent solutions to political conflicts. The operant word in the title is us. And in that collective word Hodges includes himself.
To call him the scourge of Israel misses the context of his current writings. If he were a poet, he'd write as Wilfred Owen wrote nearly 100 years ago. Benjamin Britten troped upon it in his War Requiem: http://www.its.caltech.edu/~tan/Britten/reqtext.html
.The Caltech website ( http://www.its.caltech.edu/~tan/Britten/req1.html#sec3 ) places the poem in the context of Britten's intent--and this context fully agrees with Hedges' understanding.
Hear the poem here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JVuHsUKRFQ
January 15, 2009 11:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
There is another beautiful and relevant retelling of that tale: Songwriter/poet Leonard Cohen's Story of Isaac.
I don't know how a secular Jewish-Buddhist mystic like Cohen would view the current Gaza "war," but his song is scathing toward those who would kill their own or other people's youth out of what they perceive to be principle:
"You who build these altars now
to sacrifice these children,
you must not do it anymore.
A scheme is not a vision
and you never have been tempted
by a demon or a god."
January 15, 2009 5:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is a sometimes eloquent but more often just long-winded distraction from the real issue: Israeli's leaders are posturing for an election campaign by committing mass murder and the US government has been backing them to the hilt, and this is doing serious long term damage to the national interest of America. Reading the tea leaves and contemplating the navels of various and sundry pundits, or raising a huge fuss re the minutia of anti-semitic crackpot websters is of NO significant relevance to this outrage. It shows disrespect for the real issues facing America to blow all this smoke around.
January 15, 2009 1:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Chris Hedges is not an anti-Semite, and nothing he wrote in that article was anti-Semitic. For shame, Jim Sleeper, for making insinuations of that sort. The silence you heard for 65 years was -- and still is -- cowardice, not the victory of Abe Foxman over "anti-Semitism." People didn't think it was worth it to risk their careers in journalism speaking the truth about Israel's founding and it's ongoing policies. They just wanted to keep their heads down because what would have been the point?
I wish I had a dime for every time an American *Jewish* journalist told me (and I know a lot of them): "Oh, I agree with you, but there's no way to publish that." You're just as well aware of the Abe Foxman's and Leon Wiesetier's as I am.
Some tongues are untying themselves today. Rather than be on the side of trying to smear them, why don't you encourage open dialogue, and risk a few insults for a change? You'll survive. I'm serious! Israel may not survive -- but if it doesn't it won't be because of anti-Semitism. But Jews are going to survive, okay?
What I am looking for is the Jewish Ghandis who will walk into Gaza and dare the IDF to keep shooting. The Jewish Ghandis who will start flying en masse to Tel Aviv if they aren't already there to demonstrate against this war into the faces of Israelis themselves.
Then come talk to me about the people penned up behind walls who are being starved and shot to death organizing non-violent demonstrations.
January 15, 2009 1:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why don't you walk into Gaza first daring the IDF and provide inspiration for the Jewish Ghandis to follow you? I promise I'll watch it on TV.
January 15, 2009 5:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Perhaps there already is inspiration enough for those inclined to look. I recommend Randall Kuhn, a Jewish academic, to both of you:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jan/14/when-israel-expelled-palestinians/
Think about what would happen if, after expelling all of the minorities from San Diego to Tijuana and subjecting them to 40 years of brutal military occupation, we just left Tijuana, removing all the white settlers and the soldiers. Only instead of giving them their freedom, we built a 20-foot tall electrified wall around Tijuana? Not just on the sides bordering San Diego, but on all the Mexico crossings as well. What if we set up 50-foot high watchtowers with machine gun batteries, and told them that if they stood within 100 yards of this wall we would shoot them dead on sight? And four out of every five days we kept every single one of those border crossings closed, not even allowing food, clothing, or medicine to arrive. And we patrolled their air space with our state-of-the-art fighter jets but didn't allow them so much as a crop duster. And we patrolled their waters with destroyers and submarines, but didn't even allow them to fish.
Would you be at all surprised to hear that these resistance groups in Tijuana, even after having been "freed" from their occupation but starved half to death, kept on firing rockets at the United States? Probably not. But you may be surprised to learn that the majority of people in Tijuana never picked up a rocket, or a gun, or a weapon of any kind.
The majority, instead, supported against all hope negotiations toward a peaceful solution that would provide security, freedom and equal rights to both people in two independent states living side by side as neighbors. This is the sound analogy to Israel's military onslaught in Gaza today. Maybe some day soon, common sense will prevail and no corpus of misleading analogies abut Tijuana or the crazy guy across the hall who wants to murder your daughter will be able to obscure the truth. And at that moment, in a country whose people shouted We Shall Overcome, Ich bin ein Berliner, End Apartheid, Free Tibet and Save Darfur, we will all join together and shout "Free Gaza. Free Palestine." And because we are Americans, the world will take notice and they will be free, and perhaps peace will prevail for all the residents of the Holy Land.
January 15, 2009 5:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
That little analogy brought it home. I never thought about it like that. If that's how the Palestinians are actually living, why doesn't the UN just take the thing over and run it? Just provide third party governance? From what I understand, the UN were instrumental in creating Israel to begin with.
Because the location is so central to most the people who adhere to the world's religons, it's really not right one group own it anyway.
January 15, 2009 6:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mr. Sleeper,
While I have enjoyed your work regarding the election, it seems you are playing a bit loose with the real world as far as the recent Gaza invasion is concerned.
Your invocation of a silent, hidden antisemitism returning is just plain false. Of course there will be ugly comments during wartime - especially amidst such a one-sided affair. But the truth is that antisemitism, as has been the case, is both small and relegated to the margins.
Despite what Commentary, The New Republic or Abraham Foxman and the ADL tell us, there are a plethora of well-regarded polling services that have documented the precipitous decline in antisemitism.
A peak:
"Poll Shows Decrease in Anti-Semitic Views in Europe," Ha’aretz, April 27, 2004.
The Changing Face of Anti-Semitism by Walter Laqueur
And where antisemitism does exist, namely the Arab world, its origins are not in congenital jew hatred but a response to the dispossession and occupation of the Palestinian people.
January 15, 2009 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sleeper keeps writing the same article over and over, though it seems to get longer and more convoluted with each repetition. It starts with an admission that Israel is acting badly, but then veers off into various passive-aggressive attacks on Israel's critics, insinuating that they are anti-Semites and accusing them of paying insufficient attention to the many nuances of the conflict. But the problem with the endless debate about the long-festering Israeli-Palestinian conflict isn't a lack of attention to subtleties. It is exactly the opposite. There is so much over-analysis not only of every tree, but of every twig and bud and flower and fruit that sprouts from this conflict, that the forest is completely obscured. The issue at the heart of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is--as Hedges sees and Sleeper attempts to obfuscate--simple and clear: to exist as a Jewish state, Israel has had to rid itself of most of its Arabs. Hence, in defiance of international law, it has refused to allow Arab refugees to return home, it has adopted citizenship and land laws that discriminate against Arabs, and it has held millions of Arabs in political limbo for decades as it slowly but inexorably appropriates more and more of their land. Israel is--increasingly clearly to everyone other than its most strident supporters--an apartheid state or, to use the Hebrew equivalent of the Afrikaans word "apartheid" and the adjective Israelis themselves attach to the barrier they erected to keep the Arabs out, a hafrada state.
Sleeper is right, of course, that war will not resolve the conflict. As we learned in South Africa, the only way conflicts of this type end is through censure of the offending ethnocracy accompanied by strict economic sanctions that force a resolution. Mandela may have transformed from militant to peacemaker, but this transformation would have been neither possible nor effective had the international community not made a clear decision to place blame on the white African nationalists, condemn apartheid, and act firmly against the perpetrators of injustice. "Moral clarity" is a term much abused by the American right, but sometimes dwelling on the nuances of a problem only obscures the truth about what's right and what's wrong and therefore creates an obstacle to action and to justice. In the analyis of the Isaeli-Palestinian conflict we have had far too much of this over analysis of nuance. It is time now to simplify, to clarify, to decide who is right and who is wrong and to act accordingly. Hafrada, apartheid, ethnocracy, these are wrong. It is time to end them. It is time for sanctions.
January 15, 2009 10:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Eloquent, precise. Very well done indeed, on every point.
January 16, 2009 5:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Many of these comments are among the most thoughtful and insightful I've seen. I'm going to print them out and digest them over the weekend.
For the moment, I'll say just a couple of things. First, I have revised the third and fourth paragraphs to make clear that I am not suggesting that strong, informed critics of Israel should bite their tongues. In the four posts I've done on this, I myself have criticized Israel enough to have gotten some abuse from some of its defenders, although not much of that here at TPM. So please see the revision in the intro section above. This change doesn't invalidate the sound criticisms that have been made in these comments.
On Chris Hedges, the problem is that he gets too polemical in passages like the one I quoted, just as I did in the opening paragraph of my post. It has taken me awhile to learn that heated rhetoric, with its telltale, tryptich repetitions of the same point in metaphors of ascending luridness,seldom succeed in communicating whatever real truth they contain. Those tryptichs are a sign that the blood is rushing and the mind is faltering and that some failure of analysis is being glossed. Many public writers are prone to this, and it's not helpful to readers who haven't come to a site intending to hear oratory. More later, if not here, then in another post.
January 16, 2009 5:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Purple State says I keep writing the same article, and, in a sense he's right. At least I hope that every one of the posts I've written acknowledges clearly enough what he seems to think I've obfuscated.
For example, in a post a few days ago, entitled, "How Dysfunctional is Israel?", http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/01/09/how_dysfunctional_is_israel/index.php I wrote this:
"As long as Israel occupies lands it conquered almost defensively in 1967 but now claims historically and entrepreneurially, it further erodes its democracy, and, for demographic reasons alone, it can remain a Jewish state only by abandoning any pretense of democracy at all."
I know the history from before 1967, and indeed before 1948. It's more complicated that Purple State acknowledges, but, then, he argues here that we should simplify. The only way to do that is going forward, as I try to do by citing Avraham Burg and Jonathan Schell extensively in the post above. Have any of the commentators here read the Burg column it contains?
January 16, 2009 10:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Jim, I happen to be re-reading Dostoevsky's last five novels now and as I read your posts on Israel-Palestine I can't help but think of an Ivan or a Raskolnikov. Like these iconic fictional characters, you seem to be undergoing an intense intellectual and emotional struggle, attempting to reconcile deep contradictions in your own thoughts and feelings and to make sense of events that challenge your most basic and cherished beliefs about the world. The reason you keep writing the same article over and over, I think, is because the conflict in your own mind and heart remains unresolved. I have at times been frustrated by your posts--annoyed, even, by the insistence that Israel's critics answer questions that, while not uninteresting, are, in my mind, irrelevant to the core issue--but I admire what you are doing. You are more courageous than the masses of commentators who ignore or dismiss evidence of the many contradictions in their own beliefs and instead proceed blindly to defending and rationalizing their preconceptions. You are peering into the abyss--but instead of fleeing or jumping you are seeking a way to cross. That's rare in this world and, again, to be admired. It also makes for interesting reading.
I do recognize the complexity of the history. I have read multiple histories of the I-P conflict specifically and of the Middle East in general. And I know something of the history of the Jews in Europe and elsewhere as well. I think it can be argued whether the history of Israel and Palestine is more or less complex than the history of South Africa or the Dakota Territory or Alabama. Some ethnic conflicts may tend more to black and white than others, but all seem to be heavily suffused with gray. Resolving these conflicts is always difficult, but history shows us that it can be done--usually by the defeat of one of the parties (Dakota) or by a process of integration and reconciliation (South Africa and Alabama). Israel-Palestine will be difficult to solve, but it is not inherently any more complex than any of these other ethnic conflicts. It seems to me, though, that a first step toward resolution is to pull away from complexity and nuance (and even, in a way, tolerance) and start putting some clear stakes in the ground about who is right and who is wrong. Action is impossible otherwise.
At some point, when I have more time, I do hope to write about another issue, which I believe may be at the heart of the conflict you are struggling with. And that isn't so much about Israel and Palestine, but about the phenomenon--ethnic, cultural, and religious--of Judaism. We have entered an era of history in which, to most liberal thinkers (a group to which I think we both belong), ethnicity and religion are not (or at least, we believe, should not be) at the center of our individual identities. True, we may appreciate the culture and traditions of our ethnic group and we may practice a religion, but we see these more as ornaments of our being than as foundations. In our liberal world, where ethnicity and religion are of secondary importance in our conception of ourselves, the idea of a Jewish state--maybe even the idea of clinging with any intensity to a specifically Jewish identity--seems anachronistic, if not atavistic. Yet Zionism--and to some degree Judaism itself--seem to posit an essential distinction or division between Jew and goyim that raises ethnicity and religion to almost existential importance. And this acceptance of the significance of ethno-religious difference conflicts greatly with our modern liberal conceptions of universal humanity. I sense that at least part of your struggle, Jim, is to reconcile your universalist, liberal instincts with a Zionistic ideology that you have admired but that also seems to lead almost inevitably to the geder ha'hafrada.
January 17, 2009 11:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Forgive me, purplestate, for piggy-backing your on entry, but I'm hoping that if Mr. Sleeper pays attention to the comment you just put up, that he might take the time to read these two blogs of mine, which address what your comment (above) suggests Mr. Sleeper is doing - wrestling with the very painful political/historical/moral issues the current Gaza tragedy and its context forces upon us:
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/therap/2009/01/the-evolution-of-conflict-reso.php
and especially:
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/therap/2009/01/peace-making-and-inner-transfo.php
I commend these to your attention, Mr. Sleeper as they come from dwelling deeply with all the painful circumstances in addition to dwelling deeply with the suffering of people in my work as a therapist.
January 17, 2009 11:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Jim Sleeper,
I appreciate your responses, and the revisions to your piece. I hesitate to distract you from Purple Sage's post -- which is a weekend's worth of grist for the mill itself, and surely a model of the kind of reasoned dialogue you hope for -- rightly so -- at this time.
But if I will add just a few more comments:
I did read Burg's post, and do admire the style and the content. Surely you have already heard that your most energetic companion in the search for a Ghandi-like figure, or Ghandi-like movement for Palestinians is Norman Finkelstein. And lest you cringe, I just the other day happened upon by accident a small clip of him being interviewed where he said he no longer uses words like "colonialism" or even "Zionism" -- and when asked by his surprised interlocutor, he explained it was because he had learned such words shut ears, breed resentment, lose arguments, and he wanted a better future for that region, for Israelis and Palestinians, so he had to rethink his words. He was being quite sincere, and his interest in physically non-violent responses was equally so. Whether such an excitable, invective-prone polemicist can actually walk that walk remains to be seen, but admired him what he said.
Purple State has already pointed out Mandela's trajectory, and I want to add -- lamely poetically -- that while I'm not a believer or religion, I have read the Bible, and I do see the stories of Moses and John the Baptist as twinned, and playing the same functions in both mythis. Yes, Chris Hedges might more readily get us -- and himself -- to the land of milk and honey if he pulls back from hitting that rock one more time. A John the Baptist was merely a voice crying in the wilderness, preparing the way for somebody else.
I won't posit an fixed and necessary relationship betwen the thunderers and the peacemakers. Maybe the peacemakers can do it on their own. Maybe I'm overlooking some example in history. But as much as we all grieve our own counter-productive slides into self-defeating verbal abuse of others, there have been times when the ad hominems, the public tongue-lashings, the jeremiads fueled by rushing blood have penetrated darkness, exposed evil and saved us. I know liberals will always be with us, offering themselves as smiling alternatives to screaming, raging, foam at the mouth radicals -- but you know, you've read Taylor Branch I'm sure. Martin Luther King secretly kept close the Bevels, the Foremans, the Vernon Johns, even when he sent Andy Young out to meet with the press. It's not bad some people are nearly driven mad by what's going on in Gaza, that they can't adjust. They may flame out in their descent, but they light up something.
January 16, 2009 2:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
why didn't Goldberg mention this scoop interview with Rayyan in his 2006 piece on Hamas for the New Yorker?
January 17, 2009 7:07 PM | Reply | Permalink