What Do Toilets Have To Do With Healthy Food?

What do toilets have to do with healthy food??? EVERYTHING!
Agri-business became huge after it launched the "green revolution". But it was a fantastic misnomer ... it was in reality entirely a chemical revolution that replaced animal manure with chemical fertilizer. So what? What's the big difference? The difference is huge and will impact our health for a long time to come!
Chemical fertilizer only contains the three principal building blocks for organic matter: N,P,K or nitrogen, phosphorous and potassium. The animal manure, however, also contains a large number of nutrients needed in smaller quantities to make food plants nutritious and good tasting. By not replacing those micro-nutrients, we gradually and sometimes quickly, impoverish the soils so they only produce bulk of grain, fruits and vegetable that look good, tastes like nothing and almost totally lack nutritional value. The same is sadly true for animals that graze on grass that is chemically fertilized if you wonder why beef also has lost it's taste. Now huge corporations, like Monsanto, have almost made food production and agriculture a completely chemical affair with pesticides, herbicides, genetically changing seeds to make crops able to stand more herbicides, and only chemical fertilizers ... and still very few people put their foot down because media serves those who pay best for getting the misinformation out and those who can buy advertising space.
Something wrong with this picture?
As much as this picture has been promoted as "good", the alternatives have been proclaimed as bad, dangerous to health and a way of the past. Both animal AND human (yes we are animals too) manure is vastly better as plant-nutrient replacement and there are ways to make human excrement into a perfectly safe fertilizer with no risk of spreading human pathogens. See long-term composting.
If we used this superior fertilizer in agriculture we would also lower the pollution of rivers, lakes and estuaries since we would return these balanced plant nutrients to agriculture in a clean form instead of using huge quantities of fossil fuels to fabricate chemical fertilizers ... and on top of it we then flush the good fertilizer out with the sewer. Once mixed with all of society's toxic chemicals it is useless as a fertilizer.
Short term there are only a couple of things we can do to get nutritious, good tasting food again: find someone who grows it in a healthy soil with manure fertilizer or grow our own... isn't it sad that it has come to this?



















Of course, you'd also need to cut the world's population by 50% or so.
Soon as you accomplish that, let me know.
January 8, 2009 6:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
And the logic of that is ... ?
January 9, 2009 7:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are quite correct that manure fertilizer if prepared correctly is quite safe from the perspective of being free from pathogenic bacteria. Caroline Snyder's concern about this was not warranted.
However, she did point out the other problem with big city sewerage systems is they become receptacles for industrial waste. This is probably the result of past abuses as well as illegal dumping. But in any case biosolids do have heavy metal concentrations higher than can be accounted for by the input manure as well as exotic organics from those fools who pour used oil into our drains. That is a problem you must address if you want to convince others to use human sewerage in the production of fertilizer.
January 8, 2009 7:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't propose to use sewage sludge in any form as fertilizer. There are other ways that we have technology for but it will take time --- sewers is a dead end. Once we mix organics with large amounts of tap water we have added heavy metals that attach themselves to organic particles to a degree that makes it unsuitable to grow food in.
January 9, 2009 7:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Another problem to be addressed would be leftover pharmaceuticals in human waste. Long term composting toilets could easily be substituted for current septic tank and field systems in new home builds and industrial waste wouldn't be a problem. (I cannot see much of an application for ELTC in a city setting.) But still, if the human occupants were to need long term or maintenance drug therapy, wouldn't the build up of drug residue render the composted waste unacceptable for fertilizer?
Once you get over the ew factor of using human waste, it makes sense and I know farming cultures in other countries use this practice. However in light of the information coming out concerning traces of heavy metals and a myriad of other nasty stuff perhaps more thinking needs to be done before using composted human waste in our food supply chain.
January 8, 2009 8:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is the idea with Long-Term composting: the solids stay in the process for up to 40 50 years which is our best chance for a degradation of persistent organics (drug residues).
Cities can apply the same on-site LT composting using a new type of tested vacuum toilets transporting the toilet waste rather than using drinking water. The size of the reactor for ELTC in a moderate high rise would correspond to a couple of parking places in the basement.
January 9, 2009 7:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Chemical fertilizer only contains the three principal building blocks for organic matter: N,P,K or nitrogen, phosphorous and potassium.
I am fairly certain that people growing foods would put in whatever micronutrients are needed in their fertilizers. Have you ever read a box of Miracle-Gro? Not only does it contain 15-30-15 Nitrogen-Phosphorous-Potassium, it contains iron, zinc, manganese, boron, and molybdenum.
If soil is deficient in any micronutrient, it is relatively easy to add it to the fertilizer mix. This is particularly true because most plant nutrients are elemental (e.g. metal ions, as opposed to the complex organic molecules such as proteins or vitamins that animals need to ingest), so the only issue is finding the appropriate salt of the nutrient to use.
In any case, using chemical fertilizers does not preclude the use of fertilizer.
January 8, 2009 11:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cancer is on the rise, bees are dying and genders are bending. Related? I dunno.
January 9, 2009 10:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
I never take anyone who uses the word "micronutrients" seriously, because it's a term that a lot of people misuse. There are 8 micronutrients for plants (elements required in trace quantities): manganese, boron, copper, iron, chlorine, cobalt, molybdenum, and zinc. There is no reason these cannot be supplied in fertilizer mixes.
Your post premises some 19th century neo-vitalist view that there are "mysterious essential components" of animal waste that are inherently better.
January 9, 2009 12:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Great -- here is someone to explain why a tomato grown in a repeatedly NPK fertilized soil doesn't taste anything worth eating, where as the same seeds yields a good tasting tomato when grown in a manure based organic soil ! Please don't insult my by saying that I'm imagining the difference !
January 9, 2009 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
People who believe that agricultural producers will use additives that don't improve their bottom dollar are hopelessly naive. Anyone who feels happy that agricultural interests have only our wellbeing at heart deserves to eat easily-harvested vitamin deficient tasteless tomatoes. Or beef from downer cows. Agriculture is a poorly regulated competitive business. They are interested in moving product, not wholesomeness.
A big issue with the change from animal waste to chemical, is the prescense of heavy metals in most commercial fertilizers. We're doing a minimally better job of monitoring it now, but it's certainly been building up in commerical soil during the decades we weren't monitoring it.
January 9, 2009 1:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks -- I agree with you. And when using sewage sludge based fertilizer we get even higher heavy metal content. A study we made in Sweden published by the Swedish EPA, suggested that around 70% of the heavy metal content came from inside the water and sewer system itself [raw water-processing, distribution, use in households, collection, sewage and sludge processing] not just additions from industrial sources.
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January 9, 2009 8:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, Fred did not ruffle my feathers. But I plan to ruffle his. The toxic nature of sewage sludge that is applied to American farm land has very little to do with "past abuses" or waste management "missteps." It is built right into the system that permits industrial toxic chemicals (thousands of them) to be dumped into sewers. Most of this material is generated in highly industrialized urban centers where every business and industry uses the sewers to legally get rid of their liquid hazardous waste. And the "shit capitalists" Fred mentions profit from removing this unpredictable complex contaminated mixture by either giving it away to unwitting farmers, or even paying farmers to take it.
I am glad sludge keeps deer away from Fred's garden. But I would recommend that he follow the advice of the prestigious Cornell Waste Management Institute, and NOT grow vegetables in this soil.
If we want to protect our farmland and food chain for future generations, we need to use clean soil amendments.
January 9, 2009 3:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
1. Chemical fertilizers aren't used because big companies make them; that isn't in itself attractive to farmers. Chemical fertilizers are used because they increase yield per acre. Without them (and other industrial/chemical additives like pesticides) the yield per acre gains of the past forty years disappear, and people starve.
2. There isn't anything magical about "industrial" waste; the rest of the world manages to poison its water supplies quite adequately without. Our water supplies, in fact, tend to be quite a bit better than those in most parts of the world.
Upshot: So I'm willing to listen to the idea that farming should be sustainable (as soon as someone explains adequately why our current methods are not), and I'm happy to talk about improving sewage infrastructure. I'm even perfectly willing to grant anyone that we'd be better off with a lower total world population (although I treat this as an academic point unless and until we're willing to institutionalize a "one child" policy worldwide).
But saying we need to change our lives or reverse the advances of forty years of technological advances is missing the point; those forty years of progress are necessary to sustain the world's population.
January 12, 2009 12:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Talking about eating healthy, April 27th was KFC Free Grilled Chicken Day. KFC Free Grilled Chicken Day was put on by Kentucky Fried Chicken to promote their new, healthier alternative option, Kentucky Grilled Chicken. Kentucky Grilled Chicken, the Original Recipe and Extra Crispy still come under fire from groups concerned with public health and heart disease, and animal rights groups protesting the treatment of chickens. A lot of people would give a cash advance to get more fast food chains to offer healthier fare. Regardless, KFC is still selling, and is a popular brand the world over. So anyone who didn't want to use installment loans to buy their own grill hopefully participated in KFC Grilled Chicken Day.
April 30, 2009 1:58 AM | Reply | Permalink