Why Isn't Burg's Book a National Bestseller?

Patricia DeGennaro says in her most recent posting that the current situation between Israel and the Palestinians is "unsustainable." I believe she is correct, which prompts the obvious question: where is this conflict headed?
Avraham Burg clearly believes that Israel is headed for serious trouble. Ditto Ehud Olmert, who has said that if there is no two-state solution, Israel will "face a South African-style struggle for equal voting rights, and as soon as that happens, the state of Israel is finished." In other words, Israel will end up as an apartheid state if the Palestinians do not get a viable state of their own.
There is not going to be a two-state solution anytime soon, and maybe never. The New York Times reports today that Benjamin Netanyahu, who is deeply opposed to allowing the Palestinians to have a viable state, is likely to win the upcoming Israeli election, and that his Likud party's list of candidates is well to his right. Indeed, it includes Moshe Feiglin, who "says that there is no Palestinian people and that there will never be a Palestinian state, and that Israel will hold onto everything it now has." But even if Tzipi Livni and her Kadima party win the election, there still would be no agreement between Israel and the Palestinians. As Burg makes clear in his book, today's Israelis are a hard-nosed lot who have contempt for the Palestinians and do not trust them enough to give them a state of their own. And he sees this situation getting worse, not better, over time.
So, if there is no two-state solution and Israel continues building a Greater Israel by expanding the settlements and road networks in the West Bank and keeping the Palestinians in Gaza locked up in a giant cage, where does Israel end up? What is the happy ending to this story?
It seems to me that there is no happy ending. Greater Israel will either have to engage in massive ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians to remain a democratic and Jewish state, or it will become an apartheid state, as Olmert predicted. I don't think there are any other options, save for a democratic bi-national state. But that would mean the end of the Zionist dream, since the Palestinians will soon outnumber the Jews in Greater Israel. In short, it appears that Israel is pursuing a disastrous set of policies in the Occupied Territories, and there is likely to be big trouble ahead. Of course, this is what Burg is saying. The Zionist dream is in serious danger of turning into a nightmare.
What I don't understand is why Israel's supporters in the Diaspora aren't speaking up about this situation. Why isn't Burg's book a national best seller? Why isn't it generating a huge amount of discussion here in the United States, where the Holocaust is: taught in schools across the country; popularized in movies and books; and frequently discussed in the media? Why haven't Olmert's remarkable comments about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and Israeli foreign policy more generally led to a serious public debate about Israeli policy in the Occupied Territories? After all, these two men are not goys like Jimmy Carter or Steve Walt or me, who many Jews see (incorrectly) as wolves in sheep's clothing; they are Israelis with impeccable pedigrees and their roots are on the political right no less. They are sounding the alarm bells and hardly anybody seems to be listening, or if they are listening, they don't seem to care much about what Burg and Olmert have to say. I don't get it.
I can understand why the Christian Zionists - at least most of them - are silent. They favor a Greater Israel and don't give a hoot whether Israel expels the Palestinians or becomes an apartheid state. They want Israel to control every square millimeter of Palestine, because they believe that it will facilitate the "Second Coming," not because they think it is good for Israel, which it is not.
But American Jews who feel a deep attachment to Israel are a different matter. Why don't they see that Israel is in serious trouble and that the situation is likely to get worse, not better? Why don't they understand that time is short and that it is imperative to act sooner rather than later? Why don't they understand that it would make eminently good sense to encourage the incoming Obama administration to put significant pressure on both Israel and the Palestinians to reach a settlement, and that if that does not happen and Israel is left to its own devices, the Jewish state will face a grim future. Why don't they understand that it is going to be increasingly difficult for them to defend Israel in the years ahead, mainly because the internet, and globalization more generally, make it impossible to hide what Israel has done to the Palestinians in the past and what it continues to do in the absence of a two-state solution? In short, why don't they see that it is in Israel's interest and their own interest to champion a two-state solution?
Maybe I am missing something here. Maybe the current situation is sustainable over the long term and Burg, Olmert, Carter, Walt, and others are misguided alarmists who don't understand that there is a magic formula after all. If so, it would be helpful - at least to me - if the defenders of Greater Israel would explain the happy ending to this story, and also explain why there is little reason to engage with Burg's important book.





















Prof M. asks:
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What I don't understand is why Israel's supporters in the Diaspora aren't speaking up about this situation. Why isn't Burg's book a national best seller
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A signficant reason that Burg's book isn't a national best seller is for reasons I have given in two earlier threads....in Israel, Burg is considered nothing more than a sleazy, hypocritical politician. He himself admits he was living a lie in promoting Zionist values as head of the Jewish Agency and as a member of the Zionist Labor Party. He is viewed by most Israelis and by a lot of American Jews as just another Israel basher, and there is no lack of those in the media, including Jews. He is not the first Israeli politician to become a post-Zionist/anti-Zionist...Uri Avnery did this more than 40 years ago. It is true that he is the first to have reached high positions within the Israeli Establishment (head of the Jewish Agency and Speaker of the Knesset) to openly turn against Zionism and to make a good living by slandering Israel and the Jewish people around the world.
I will also ask Prof. M a question I ask all the other so-called "progressives" who keep telling us that is in "Israel's interest" to create a terrorist entity that would endanger Israel's very existence and to give up vital interests like Jerusalem: Why on earth should the Palestinian run and agree to make an agreement that will "save Israel" in the long run? Isn't it the Palestinian's own expressed goal to eradicate Israel? This is what they tell their own people every day in their own state-controlled media (they never talk about peace and reconciliation...they keep their population mobilized through a constant drumbeat of Judeophobic propaganda to keep the struggle going). Prime Minister Olmert himself said that "Israel is doomed if it doesn't create a Palestinian state as soon as possible". Isn't it the "doom of Israel" (G-d forbid) that the Palestinians are struggling for?
December 11, 2008 3:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
YBD: You wasted a few lines criticizing Burg when you could have used all your time blaming Palestinians for the dinosaurs' extinction, Madonna's ghastly road show, and the home mortgage crisis. You are slipping....
December 11, 2008 3:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
We realize that YBD's opinions quite likely reflect a plurality of the Israeli electorate and that is not a position that can really be defeated in debate. He (and they) believe in that reality and neither we nor the US government will change their beliefs. Of course, rational thinkers do not see any good ending in Israel. I am afraid Mearsheimer, the current policy given the attitudes of the Israeli people can only end in ethnic cleansing or an apartheid state.
Our question should not be what we can do to change Israel but rather what is in the best interests of the United States in the face of Israel's actions. That means not using all of our energy trying to persuade the right wing zionist forces, either here or in Israel, to change their ways but rather working to change the political dynamics in this country so that we do not join Israel as she plunges over the cliff.
We hear this continuous refrain that only the US has the power to solve the IP conflict. I disagree. It is time for us to simply remove ourselves and let Israel be Israel and let the Palestinians resist as well as they can.
December 11, 2008 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Our question should not be what we can do to change Israel but rather what is in the best interests of the United States in the face of Israel's actions.
Precisely synanen. Rosenberg, Burg, Avishai and Levy can lobby and pine away for a liberal, friendly, post-Zionist Israel. More power to them. But the rest of us can't wait for that golden age to come. We need to push for a change in the US stance toward Israel now.
December 11, 2008 5:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
How about this as a start: The next time we find only the US and the Marshall Islands opposing the latest UN resolution, how about we NOT veto it.
December 11, 2008 6:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let's suppose for the sake of argument that these worries are accurate, and that Israel is going to continue to move in a rightward and more violent direction. My concern is this: As Israel moves deeper and deeper into some combination of South Africa-style apartheid and Serbian-style ethnic cleansing, will the United States continue its fatal plunge into the moral whirpool of its relationship with Israel? Will those charged with guarding our national security, national interests and national reputation finally be able to make a break from domestic pressure groups, take a firmer line with Israel and and cast off this albatross? Or will those who claim they are interested in "restoring America's reputation and restoring America's leadership" continue to neglect the obvious and tie our reputation to the cause of Israel and its globally notorious system of oppression?
The key to an intelligent national response is information. Yes, there is strong support for Israel in the Untied States. But I don't think it is appreciated just how ignorant much of the US population is about the history of the conflict. Most of the ignorance is not due to stupidity, but to an unofficial media embargo on discussion of the history of Israel and Palestine.
I have spoken to numerous ordinary folks over the years whose perception of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict goes something like this: The state of Israel has well-defined borders and has always existed in its present location, going back to biblical times. The Israelis were peacefully minding their own business there, as they have for many centuries, when they were invaded and attacked by crazed bands of suicidal Jew-hating Arabs who come from the neighboring country of Palestine, and evidently want to take over the peaceful, democratic country of Israel.
Ignorant yes. But where is the average person, who gets most of their information from television news, supposed to get a more accurate picture?
For the US to start behaving rationally, it needs to break the spell of the national information lock-down. Is this possible? Maybe. It once seemed that progressives couldn't catch a break on the cable news channels, which were dominated by right-wingers. Then MS-NBC moved left with Olbermann and Maddow and discovered a huge latent and underserved market. What enterprising news company is going to do the same thing with the pent-up demand for frank talk about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict? Is it too much too hope that some day the get-Carter, get-Walt and get-Mearsheimer tactics by Israels's heavy-handed protectors aren't going to work anymore?
Let's be blunt about where the Israeli drift to the right might lead. At some point all of these hard line Israeli leaders may calculate that their only hope for national survival and the success of their long-term national aims is a major regional war in which they succeed in dragging the US, UK and some Europeans in on their side, a war which radically alters the power alignments and geography of the region, and during which they can rapidly and brutally drive masses of Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza, under the rubric of a "security emergency" while everyone else is busy with their own problems, and too busy killing Arabs and Muslims of their own to care about a few more Arab wretches in Palestine. Israel may already have concluded that it needs to do this while it still possesses a nuclear monopoly in the region.
There are any number of tactics Israel could pursue to light the spark of such a war. And when Israel went to war against Lebanon in 2006, with many in Israel and here in the states attempting to expand the war into Syria and beyond, was our next Secretary of State helping Tony Blair and Kofi Annan with their cease-fire plans? No, she was participating in a fanatical pro-Israel rally across the street from the UN on the very day Blair and Annan were introducing their proposal.
I dearly hope Barack Obama has some clue about the dangers that await him, and the political courage he might be required to show to keep tens of thousands of young Americans from being drafted into a grisly death on the battlefields of the Middle East.
December 11, 2008 5:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dan, are you familiar with the "A Clean Break" report written by Richard Pearle for Netanyahu?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break
It was a predecessor to the Project For a New American Century's "Rebuilding America's Defenses" paper:
http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf
which concludes: "The process of transformation,
even if it brings revolutionary change, is
likely to be a long one, absent some
catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a
new Pearl Harbor."
Remember that it wasn't just Iraq, but Iran and Syria also that were lusted over, and well before "9/11 changed everything."
Because even experts agree that even a nuclear Iran wouldn't nuke Israel, because of mutually assured destruction, I have to wonder how much the Palestinian issue plays a role in Israel's strong desire to attack Iran. Without any military rivals in the region, who is going to stop a quiet (at least in America) ethnic cleansing?
December 11, 2008 6:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is really all about Saudi Arabia and its dependency. A nuclear Iran seeds a nuclear Saudi, which means an independent Saudi. And we can't have that....
December 11, 2008 6:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
We just signed a 20 billion dollar arms deal with the Saudis, with some of our most advanced systems involved.
I believe the goal was and is to take out Iraq and then take out Iran and Syria with the collective support of the Saudis, Egyptians, and other Sunni nations.
Either way, Israel defeats all unpredictable foes, and the Sunni countries all get something in return, the defeat of Iran and the secular Iraq.
Don't forget the Axis of Evil speech, and the warnings by Pentagon officials that Iraq was but the first country to go, and that Syria would be up right after.
I'm sure you'd agree that it wasn't a coincidence that Jewish Neocons were some of the primary architects of the war and this greater strategy, and that Israel played a role in their minds. Ariel Sharon was all about the Iraq war, and he knew full well what the greater plan was.
December 11, 2008 7:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Very true. Notice Mubarek, the ultimate puppet, ranting about the Persians: http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1228728151219&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
December 12, 2008 12:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't want to catch or throw a bunch of name calling, but if there are two kinds of people withing a geographically bound sovereign state, and those people are identified by two different kinds of ID cards, and what kind of ID card you have determines where you can go and what you can do, then it's too late to stave off talk of "ending up as an Apartheid state."
Whenever I hear "Israelis and Palestinians clash," I think, what's a Palestinian? I go look at a map, and I see the region where it happened is in the boundaries of the country called Israel. So why doesn't it say "Israelis and other Israelis clash?" Because it has people in its borders who it doesn't treat as citizens of its own state. I believe the term for that system is called "Apartheid."
If you're going to put your religion as the name of your country and slap its symbols all over your flag, then write it into your laws, you might want to consider actually upholding the main precepts of said religion in dealing with your neighbors at the very least.
Rabbi Hillel, could you explain to me the Israeli policy towards Palestinians while standing on one foot?
December 11, 2008 10:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now, how do we get articles like this into the MSM?
December 12, 2008 7:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Round and round the thinkers go. Why nobody listens, only the smart ones know. They are so dumb they don't see what we see, why we call them the Nazis of the Mediterranean Sea.
We are so smart, won't they just understand, it must be the Lobby keeping heads in the sand.
We are so smart, and they are so dumb but after a week nothing's changed and the Cafe is numb.
We are so brave when we call it apartheid, hoping we'll hear someone yell. . .anti-semite!
Round and round the thinkers go, it must be the Lobby, 'cause won't they just know?
We are so smart, won't they we hear what we say. Ahem, folks admit it. . .this is parlor game play.
December 12, 2008 7:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
It is getting worse. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7779087.stm
December 12, 2008 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Rockin!
December 12, 2008 2:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
admit it. . .this is parlor game play.
Just hope you don't feel that you had to explain that for the benefit of some of us shikshas out there. We get it, we see the parlor game. If we are in the mood to see new and creative ways for people to hurl the same dung at each other, we might even enjoy reading the umpteenth rendition. It's very clear that the narrative that AIPAC is the root of all evil is the narrative that starts the game, then you line up and take sides and pretend there is no nuance where one can support some things an organization or entity does and hate other things it does.
(You know, we have similar games in families of Catholic heritage, they ruin Thanksgiving dinners and such. And when someone brings one up on the net, oh, like starting a thread on pedophilia problem in the Catholic church, all we can do is roll our eyes at the results we are going to see from that from people outside the "family.")
The thing with these kind of games is that it would actually be quite wonderful if things were as simple as the games present them. Because if things were so black and white, then it should actually be quite easy to fix the problem.
December 12, 2008 4:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Unless you mean to restrict your "us" to non-Jewish women only, the word you're looking for is not shiksas but goyim.
December 16, 2008 11:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sooner or later the matter will be settled ISrael's right to Aparthei will not endure for ever .the Clock is ticking the world is getting very impatient. The Jews outside Israel may have to come to the conclusion it is better to go into the future at peace and respected .
Apartheid can not be hidden today as in the past.
How can the world take Irael Serious ,it does not meet the criteria of a nation the borders are not
secured nor are they determined.
December 15, 2008 6:16 AM | Reply | Permalink