Untimely Thoughts
The estimable Steve Fraser has a piece worthy of note up at Tomdispatch. Not the part that grumbles indiscriminately about Obama's prospects for good deeds on the basis of nothing but the fact that his looming appointments have experience in the government. I too am disturbed that no one directly representing labor is included among the councils of economic advisers, but December is a bit early, I think, to haul out the big guns and declare that, in foreign policy, for example, we confront what he calls "an "Obama-Clinton-Bush (the father) foreign policy establishment." Give the guy a few weeks in office, for Chrissake, before consigning him to the selloutocracy.
But to the subject of Fraser's more constructive side:
A real democratic nationalization of the banks -- good value for our money rather than good money to add to their value -- should be part of the policy agenda up for discussion in the Obama era. As things now stand, the public supplies the loans and the investment capital, but the key decisions about how they are to be deployed remain in private hands. A democratic version of nationalizing the financial system would transfer these critical decisions to new institutions created by the Congress and designed to pursue public, not private, objectives. How to subject the flow of credit and investment capital to public control ought to be on the drawing boards if we are to look beyond the old New Deal to a new one.Or, for instance, if we are to bail out the auto industry, which we should -- millions of jobs, businesses, communities, and what's left of once powerful and proud unions are at stake -- then why not talk about its nationalization, too? Why not create a representative body of workers, consumers, environmentalists, suppliers, and other interested parties to supervise the industry's reorganization and retooling to produce, just as the president-elect says he wants, new green means of transportation -- and not just cars?
This is a provocation, of course, in an era when Everybody, just Everybody knows that nationalization is the devil's work. But it is not idle provocation; it's necessary and timely provocation. When public funds are plugging the holes in sinking ships, boats, ferries, and skerries, and GM officials must abase themselves by driving automobilesto Washington, isn't it incumbent upon a Change administration to consider seriously that the public stake in improvident companies ought to extend beyond subsidy to participation in decision-making?
Isn't the rationale for private ownership that it knows its markets better than anyone else does, or can? When this is demonstrably proved false, isn't the careful, pragmatic thing to do to reopen the theory of corporate governance?














Thank you for bringing Fraser into this conversation. He (among others) is not just being provocative. Other countries' governments own large stakes in their manufacturing industries. Other countries have CENTRAL banks (not the Fed, which is a board of privately held banks).
We don't have a "free market" anyway--nor should we because "free" markets create disastrous boom/bust cycles, as we figured out early in the last century. And there certainly is not a global "free market" now. So people who invoke the "free market" for economic policy are ALWAYS trying to prevent regulation of their business. Regulation is necessary to protect the markets--and (incidentally) everyone on the planet subject to the vagaries of the global economy. Nationalization of the auto industry--yes! Nation ownership of at least some major banks-yes! CREATION of a central bank (not the FED)--yes! Krugman has called for something like a temporary nationalization strategy, but one has to ask "why temporary"? And while we're on this point, why not nationalized health care? Fraser's comment about nationalization as the rational way to bring all the stakeholders together is well worth pondering.
December 4, 2008 4:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
That is right. Again, we are in a socialist nation and no major (major, shit any business that has over 40 employees) corporation gets by without government handouts. And the guy who makes eight dollars an hour without tips has nothing but a few dollars in food stamps.
We have already nationalized everything, but as many others have said, we must appoint managers who do not make more than the President of the United States. This is not going to stop the best and the brightest from the highest corporate positions. Jeez, we go a new President who spent 750 million dollars to get the job. After their term as corporate heads they can write a book, get a cable show, or get a cable reality show.
When I saw the figure of 125 billion dollars being proposed to pay top management for failure, I felt like calling ten million people with pitchforks to action.
We just can't find the right guy for less than 100 million cajones for the job. Bullshit. The least the taxpayers are owed is a voting stock in every company receiving fed funds. period. And, once again, voting rights in a corporation should mean something.
December 4, 2008 11:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, I understand this post is meant to be provacative, but I hope you guys aren't actually serious. I am very much in favor of smart government regulation, etc, but the government would not be more innovative or responsive than private industry, even if certain parts of that industry are paining us now. A lot of people need to take individual responsibility for feeding into the unsustainable bubble that we all helped to create.
Dudes, state directed operation of the economy and means of production is communism. That system had its opportunity and failed miserably.
We need to work to improve our capitalist system, not overthrow it.
December 5, 2008 2:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
December 5, 2008 9:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Bare facts are if a lending entity (us) is going to lend $18 billion to another entity (GM) whose worth is $3 billion, it would be beyond foolish not to protect our investment - never mind that no respectable bank would ever write up such a contract.
(Hell, the holder of my mortgage requires me to have fire insurance on my/its dwelling.)
December 5, 2008 11:20 AM | Reply | Permalink