The evolution of American liberal internationalism

I'd like to thank the Book Club for hosting this discussion of The American Way of Strategy: U.S. Foreign Policy and the American Way of Life, which is now out in paperback just in time for the change in administrations. I should mention that Parameters, the U.S. Army War College Quarterly, in its latest issue has published my exploration of the implications of the book's thesis for U.S. military strategy in "A Concert-Balance Strategy for a Multipolar World," for those who are interested.
I wrote The American Way of Strategy for two reasons. The first was to describe and rehabilitate an important but almost forgotten way of thinking about U.S. foreign policy. The second reason was to defend an older tradition of liberal internationalism which seeks to promote nonintervention as the chief norm in world politics and holds that a concert of status quo great powers can preserve international peace at the lowest cost to a free society in the United States and similar democracies.
In the last quarter century or so, the debate over American foreign policy has been defined by realists in the European tradition, who think in terms of securing concrete national interests, and "idealists" who think in terms of universalizing liberal and democratic values. Earlier generations of Americans, however, spoke the language of the American way of life, which I summarize in the sentence: "The purpose of the American way of strategy is to defend the American way of life by means that do not endanger the American way of life." Other scholars independently have sought to uncover this largely forgotten tradition, including Daniel Deudney, whose brilliant study of what he calls "republican security theory," Bounding Power, was published and came to my notice after The American Way of Strategy went to press.
Both the proponents and the critics of U.S. participation in the two world wars and the cold war argued that their preferred foreign policies would protect the American way of life -- an individualistic society with a civilian government of limited powers and a largely-private economy with widespread individual property ownership. The American nightmare was what the political scientist Harold Lasswell called the "garrison state," a militarized society with an economy that is regimented and mobilized for purposes of national security. (In the book I discuss two alternate dystopias, which I call the castle society and the tributary state).
Libertarian isolationists argued that U.S. intervention in the world wars and the Cold War would turn the U.S. into a garrison state. Liberal internationalists replied that to the contrary, U.S. abstention from Old World power struggles would likely force the U.S reluctantly to turn itself into a Fortress America in a world dominated by a hostile hegemon or alliance. The goal of liberal internationalism was not a world of democracies. It was a world that was safe for democracy, to use Woodrow Wilson's term -- a world in which, thanks to the collaboration of the U.S. with other status quo powers, external security costs would be so low that the U.S. and similar democracies, even if they were a minority of the world's governments, could be secure without militarizing and regimenting their societies.
Traditional liberal internationalists favored democracy in principle but believed that a peaceful world order should be based on the rights to sovereignty and security of all non-aggressive states -- including states ruled by Muslim monarchies and theocracies, military juntas and civilian dictatorships. When it came to the provision of international security, traditional liberal internationalists took it for granted that the U.S. could not aspire to solitary global hegemony without sacrificing the American way of life to excessive militarization. They also rejected the idea of a perpetual Orwellian balance of power among rival blocs, fearing that this, too, would turn the U.S. into a militarized garrison state. Holding that continental isolationism was impractical in the age of industrial warfare, they argued that a lasting peace that would permit the survival of America's liberal way of life required a modus vivendi or concert among all nonaggressive great powers, whether they were democracies or not. Franklin Roosevelt hoped that following World War II, international peace could be secured by a concert of the Big Four: the United States and Britain, both democracies, along with the Soviet Union and Nationalist China, both dictatorships. Roosevelt's plan failed because the postwar Soviet Union acted as a revisionist, would-be hegemonic power in its foreign policy, not because the Soviet Union was a communist dictatorship.
Both of the elements of traditional liberal internationalism -- the norm of nonintervention and the idea of a concert of all great powers, democratic or otherwise have been rejected by many self-described liberal internationalists since the end of the Cold War. Many liberals along with neoconservatives (whose intellectual origins lie in liberalism) argue that sovereignty is less important than promoting democracy or maximizing human rights. In the name of a "responsibility to protect," some argue that states should lose their sovereignty and become legitimate objects of foreign bombing or foreign invasion, not only if they commit genocide (an exception to sovereignty recognized by post-1945 liberal internationalism) but also if they commit a variety of crimes against their inhabitants short of genocide. And instead of FDR's idea of a concert of great powers preserving the territorial status quo against disruption by aggression, some who call themselves liberal internationalists, along with John McCain and like-minded neoconservatives, have argued for a "concert of democracies," a military alliance which would exclude nondemocratic great powers like China and semi-democratic great powers like Russia.
Although I respect people who hold these views, I believe that both of these currently fashionable revisions of traditional liberal internationalism -- the responsibility to protect and the concert of democracies -- are unwise and unnecessary. International norms can and should authorize other nations to act to forestall crimes by states against entire peoples, like genocide and ethnic cleansing. But international norms cannot authorize interventions by a foreign country to defend the rights of individuals in other countries, without destabilizing a system founded on the sovereign territorial state and giving a license to imperialism disguised as humanitarianism.
Nor is the idea of a concert of democracies an improvement over the idea of a concert of all great powers. We must promote peace among the great powers that we have, including China, a nondemocratic power which is also a status quo power, and Russia, a semi-democratic power whose policies in its near abroad, like its war in defense of the South Ossetians against the Georgians, are no different in kind from the interventions of the U.S. in its North American sphere of influence.
What does all of this mean in practice? By the standards of traditional Rooseveltian liberal internationalism, I would argue that the Gulf War, a classic exercise of collective security against cross-border aggression, was justified, while the war to topple al-Qaeda's allies and protectors, the Taleban, following 9/11 was clearly legitimate as well. NATO intervention in the Balkans was more dubious, but mitigating the effects of state break-ups is a legitimate activity of great powers. The unprovoked U.S. invasion and occupation of Iraq in 2003, by contrast, cannot be justified by traditional liberal internationalism, nor could the U.S. invasions of Grenada (Reagan), Panama (the first Bush), and Haiti (Clinton), all of which violated FDR's "Good Neighbor policy" in the western hemisphere.
Maintaining and expanding NATO and the US-Japan alliance while ostracizing Russia and China is a recipe for another cold war. I believe that Russia, instead of being encircled by U.S. allies, should already have been admitted to NATO, which after the Cold War should have become a Eurasian collective security system to which the US belongs. In the absence of a similar pan-Asian security system, the U.S. should have a bilateral treaty of security with China, along with its similar treaties with Japan, South Korea and other states in the region. Why not promise to defend China against Japan, as well as Japan against China? Philip Bobbitt, who does not share my skepticism about a concert of democracies, has suggested a G-8 for security, and as long as it included China and Russia as well as India, something like that could be the nucleus of an informal global great-power concert, assuming that the roster of permanent members of the anachronistic UN Security Council cannot be reformed.
We can talk about other subjects, including claims that weapons of mass destruction and stateless terrorism render traditional liberal internationalism obsolete, but I'd be interested to learn what others think of my distinction between the old and the new liberal internationalism, and my argument that traditional American liberal internationalism ought to be tried for a change.

















Obviously you must have been loving the Prez Elect's presser today. As Greg Sargent has pointed out today over at TPM EC,
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/12/obama_surrounding_himself_with.php
Gates and Jones have been very critical of the current Administration for failing to use our "soft power", which, it seems to me, has alot in common with liberal internationalism.
December 1, 2008 3:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
You raise a good point that the seeds of the disastrous foreign policy of the current administration was a natural extension of the new liberal internationalism that has guided US policy since WWII. This is a policy that has led the US, under both Democrats and Republicans, into unnecessary war. This was called humanitarian war under Clinton and Bush certainly used the humanitarian argument in pushing his war.
Your suggestion that we return to a foreign policy that works with a concert of nations (and a concert that does not exclude Russia and China) is very sensible. The bureaucratic structure for such a concert is an important detail but one that would have to be worked out by negotiation. Nato seems anachronistic, but if they invited not only Russia but also China and Japan, perhaps that could work. Why not through the UN?
We would also have to come to the realization that the US would be much less likely to go to war in general. It would probably be the end of 'humanitarian' intervention and sending our troops into the middle of other nation's civil wars. In any civil war charges of genocide and real ethnic cleansing do indeed happen. Giving China a veto over any intervention, would put a good break on our natural tendency to police the world and solve every ill.
December 1, 2008 4:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hate the "concert of democracies" idea but adding Russia and China to it just makes it worse, not better. I don't want to pledge to defend China against anyone. What if the Tibetans rise up the way the IRA did in Ireland? We're supposed to take China's side in that, even though China clearly has it coming?
Or, what if we pledge to defend Russia and then some Chechens launch attacks all over Moscow. We're supposed to take Russia's side in that? Sorry but if some region of Russia wants independence because they don't want to live under Putin it's hard not to see that they're being entirely reasonable. Why would we side with Russia? We should, at least, remain neutral. A mutual defense pact doesn't allow us room for neutrality when neutrality, in most cases, will make sense.
December 1, 2008 4:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
You raise a good point. The concert could not be a security pact in the sense that Nato is. It would decide when foreign nations could intervene in the internal affairs of other countries. This would mean that concert members themselves would have immunity from foreign intervention if civil war erupted within their borders. The virtue of this plan is to tie up the decision making process in a big unwieldy body in order to prevent the US from making war whenever some crisis occurs somewhere.
Actually the best solution would be good old fashioned Washington-Adams isolationism. But that is not an option that is politically viable within the US.
December 1, 2008 8:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tibet, for better or worse, is internationally recognized as part of China, as Chechnya is of Russia. My understanding of Lind's proposal is that mutual defense pacts would apply to conflicts between sovereign nations -- independence movements such as exist in Tibet and Chechnya would therefore not bring them into operation. Absent genocide or ethnic cleansing, they would be "internal affairs."
That's not anyone's idea of a moral ideal -- but that's why they call it realism. The question is this: is it too high a price to pay for international peace?
December 2, 2008 10:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Roosevelt's plan failed because the postwar Soviet Union acted as a revisionist, would-be hegemonic power in its foreign policy, not because the Soviet Union was a communist dictatorship.
Roosevelt's plan failed because it died with him before the end of the war. Sure some of the trappings like the U.N. were established but his idea of the Big Four acting in concert as trustees for the developing world was opposed by Great Britain and France. He would probably have opposed permanent membership on the UN Security Council for France since he didn't even want them to rearm after WWII and deplored what they had done in Indochina. From Roosevelt's Trusteeship Concept:
Had Roosevelt lived he may have been more successful in working with Stalin. I have my doubts but if those two had agreed, everyone else would have fallen in line and we might be living in a very different world. Maybe a better one. Maybe not.
December 1, 2008 6:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seems to me that your definition of traditional liberal internationalism is a phantom. When did this liberal internationalism exist? Prior to WWII? Because everything post-WWII is indeed geared at a militaristic posturing (i.e. the Cold War) and prior to WWII liberal internationalism didn't seem to exist unless you are counting Wilsonian attempts at a League of Nations as its sole example and we saw how that worked out.
Maybe I missed it, but I don't see any clear example of what traditional liberal internationalism is, either in practice or in the history books form which to identify it.
December 1, 2008 7:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't you realize that we cannot deal with countries that do not look like U.S.
Don't you realize that we cannot deal with
countries that do not pray like U.S.
Don't you realize that we cannot deal with
countries that bow to our invincible power?
This Administration has made Nixon look good.
I am saving your post because I wish to refer to it as the new foreign policy is put into place.
I admit you are speaking way over my head, but this latest terrorist attack that involves India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan demonstrates how complicated foreign policy is. It looks to me like w really did not screw up the latest Georgian mess, but how would I know? Your mention of Orwellian blocs brings to mind the latest DROLL comment of Chris Buckley and how he misses the Cold War. You know, two sides. Kind of like a moety system described by Franz Boaz. I do know one thing. George Herbert Walker Bush's take on the Gulf War was right on. Thank you. Again I will keep referring to this over the next couple of years.
December 1, 2008 10:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am very much in turn with your way of thinking Mr. Lind. I would add that a concert of the great and other status quo powers is required now more than ever. There are pressing, practical global challenges in the area of energy, environment, population, public health and economic stability and prosperity. These need to be addressed in a cooperative way that is not hindered by diplomatic and military cross-currents coming from aggressive efforts to spread political ideologies.
Many contemporary liberal internationalists draw, in my view, the wrong lessons from global interdependence, seeing in this interdependence, and the obvious truth that our well-being is sometimes dependent on what happens in other countries, an all-purpose excuse for interventionism. These new-style interventionists are frequently heedless of the harmful effects of disruptions of the peace and challenges to the balance of power. They disdain economic issues, and other factors related to the material conditions for healthy and prosperous lives, in favor of projects to reform the political souls of the heathens.
I also believe that it is important to challenge an assumption frequently assumed by liberal interventionists: that a policy against interventions condemns others to endless oppression and misery. I don't believe it. Human societies are dynamic things that are constantly changing. Good ideas and practices tend to spread and be imitated. Bad practices fall away. A commitment to a policy of non-intervention in the domestic affairs of others is not at all a policy of resignation. China is still in many ways a repressive society. But the life of the Chinese people is better by several orders of magnitude than it was during the nightmare years of fanatical Maoist extremism, poverty and Cultural Revolution. These changes were mainly effected by the Chinese themselves during a period of constructive engagement with the US, not by interventionist crusading.
I wish some of these post-Cold War liberal internationalists would re-read the UN Charter from time to time, and develop a renewed appreciation and horror of the slaughters that drove our forbears to create an organization based on the principled commitment to refrain from the use of force for non-defensive purposes, and designed "to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind."
December 2, 2008 12:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Dan writes: "I also believe that it is important to challenge an assumption frequently assumed by liberal interventionists: that a policy against interventions condemns others to endless oppression and misery. I don't believe it. Human societies are dynamic things that are constantly changing. Good ideas and practices tend to spread and be imitated. Bad practices fall away. A commitment to a policy of non-intervention in the domestic affairs of others is not at all a policy of resignation. China is still in many ways a repressive society. But the life of the Chinese people is better by several orders of magnitude than it was during the nightmare years of fanatical Maoist extremism, poverty and Cultural Revolution. These changes were mainly effected by the Chinese themselves during a period of constructive engagement with the US, not by interventionist crusading."
To be sure, I have some strong sympathy with this. Now that we have good relations with communist Vietnam, and they are probably on the road to a more liberal society, one has to wonder: What was that war all about if we're simply going to end up in the same place anyway? And probably could have sooner if we'd welcome Ho way way back.
But the question also arises: Yes, "bad practices" fall away, but in what time frame? And at what cost? Mao killed 30 million people. So did Stalin at least. From our perspective, 45-60 years later (depending on your atrocity), sitting in a country that's never really been invaded or ruled by a dictator, it's easy to say, "Well, it all worked out for the best." (I don't mean to impute that cavalier attitude to you, but doesn't it boil down to the same thing?)
Mao wiped out an entire generation of people. So did Stalin. Hitler destroyed one half of the world's Jews. In Iran, there are no men between the ages of say, 30 and 60 because of that brutal war. Then we have Pol Pot's killing fields. Rwanda.
I agree that the US can't intervene in every country's internal humanitarian crisis. But there does need to be some sort of guideline for when this is allowable (legally) and essential (morally). In Lind's book, he seems to argue for this, but cleverly doesn't try to formulate the guideline.
December 2, 2008 9:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have to agree, at least a little bit, that the first gulf war was more 'justifiable' than the current Iraq war, but I'd be interested to hear your views on the interbellum period. Were the sanctions and bombing of that country justified in the same way? How were the effects of these activities different from war?
December 4, 2008 11:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
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