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"Liberty or Death" vs. "Protect at Any Cost"

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I want to take a bit of a different angle in talking about the issues Eugene has raised, and others, more competent than I, have begun discussing. I also want to refer to my own teaching over the past three years, teaching that has attempted to illuminate the ongoing titanic struggle present in the U.S. since 1947 between our soul and our security. It is a struggle in which security is increasingly winning--for numerous reasons other than the fact that Americans collectively want to feel safe. Call it the battle of our traditional political and cultural values--bluntly encompassed by Patrick Henry's saying, "Give me liberty or give me death"--against the compromises with, and attacks on, those very same values by the demands of the national security state. Today, the cry from across the country is almost the antithesis of Henry's: "Protect my life at any cost."

The repercussions of "any cost" have been rather stupendous.

We have evolved from the point where Eisenhower, with roughly balanced budgets--or certainly not as unbalanced as budgets are today--could cite the cost comparison of a schoolhouse or a hospital or enough food to eat with an airplane or a warship, giving the burden of the national security state an immediacy rarely present today. At the same time, however, who among us knows that today the cost of two programs alone, social security and Medicare, double the defense budget even in a good year? Isn't this simply another version of "Protect my life at any cost"? Call it the welfare state version.

And today the "costs" of these two states--the welfare state, and the national security state--are not only stupendous, they're skyrocketing. And they are skyrocketing against a post-Keynesian economic philosophy that is utterly unsustainable. In fact, this system has spawned a complex series of what are best described as giant Ponzi schemes. The economic and financial crises of today are a partial result. I fear that our experiences of tomorrow, or the next day, or the next, will also bare the mark of these measures.

This is all to say that without a solid economic foundation beneath us, any conversation about meaningful change, a fresh sobriety, or about a new politics that can successfully tackle energy transformation, planetary warming, radical Islamist terrorists, failing states from Pakistan to Somalia, and a host of other national, regional, and global challenges, seems to me to be sheer nonsense.

Now, I'm not an economist and perhaps that's why I'm so gloomy. All my economist colleagues and the financial gurus I know offer their sage counsel that the present crises will be over in a year or two, that the faltering economic ship will right itself, and that bucket loads of greed and arrogance will be replaced by lots of industrious Americans putting their shoulders to the tasks. I'm of Scot heritage. I believe a country needs to make things, good things, and that its budgets need to be in balance--and all that sort of old-fashioned stuff.


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Today, the cry from across the country is almost the antithesis of Henry's: "Protect my life at any cost."

Here we go again, from a man who served in the current scumbag administration which brought us $2bn per day Pentagon corporate welfare giveaways including $10bn a month for losing military occupations abroad. This includes sixteen years working for a man (Colin Powell) who as the Secretary of State was a key figure in the lies that got the US into Iraq as well as in staying in Iraq beyond Mission Accomplished.

The message: It's all the peoples' fault. The people caused all this wasteful Pentagon profligacy. The people expect too much.

Hogwash and horsepucky, I say.

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Wilkerson left the Adminstration after he realized that the intelligence that led us into Iraq was bogus, and unlike Powell was not afraid to say so.

here is a transcript from a 2005 BBC interview:

"[INTERVIEWER]:If what you say is correct, in your view, is Dick Cheney then guilty of a war crime?

[WILKERSON]:Well, that's an interesting question - it was certainly a domestic crime to advocate terror and I would suspect that it is - for whatever it's worth - an international crime as well."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4481092.stm

My question why supposedly antiwar Democrats in Congress do not speak like this.

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Dick Cheney

When you can't address the topic, and you want to throw out a red herring, just bring up Dick Cheney, everybody's favorite bogeyman.

The story that Dastardly Dick Cheney hoodwinked old pro Colin Powell is simply part of the rehabilitation of Colin Powell, in which Wilkerson is continuing his long-time support of his boss. It doesn't wash, any more than his previous story that the CIA fooled him.

The facts are, as I stated above, that the man blaming the American people for a runaway Pentagon is the man who served in the current scumbag administration which brought us $2bn per day Pentagon corporate welfare giveaways including $10bn a month for losing military occupations abroad. This includes sixteen years working for a man (Colin Powell) who as the Secretary of State was a key figure in the lies that got the US into Iraq as well as in staying in Iraq beyond Mission Accomplished.

from Powell's 80-minute UN BS speech, which included "evidence" fabricated by Powell:
POWELL: "The truck you also see is a signature item. It's a decontamination vehicle in case something goes wrong." It was a water truck. And so on.

The reason that "supposedly antiwar Democrats in Congress do not speak like this" is because it makes no sense. The Dems, along with Cheney, Powell and Wilkerson, were all part of the same war crime.

And here comes Wilkerson blaming the people, you and I, for these transgressions. He's not even blaming Cheney, on this page, he's blaming us.

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Don,

Powell's UN testimony destroyed his reputation forever. He was so wrong that noone can believe he wasn't aware that much of that testimony was
tenuous or just downright bullshit.

So Powell is either stupid or he decided to go along to get along. He isn't stupid.

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Yes, I agree about Colon Bowel and add that his personal policy of going along to get along (and get promoted up the [white] chain of command) began not prior to the Iraq war crime but way back after the My Lai massacre in Vietnam, when he was in charge at a lower level of investigating its veracity and instead stifled information about not only the My Lai massacre but the series of massacres by that entire brigade in that particular region).

So, Colon Bowel, along with a few others, was directly responsible for the whitewash of that whole My Lai war crime episode, under "orders" of course, which themselves were a war crime to follow.

Yes, Colon Bowel has been a complicit lackey since way back, and nothing he has done since can begin to exonerate himself from his perfidy, not unless he does a full-career mea culpa in full, and then only maybe should he begin to receive public forgiveness.

Instead, though, he will carry his shame and cowardice to his grave, like most war criminals and war-criminal profiteers of any era, country, or specific or general group of people.

Otherwise he's an okay fella, yew betcha.

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"The Dems, along with Cheney, Powell and Wilkerson, were all part of the same war crime."

If so, then I am complicit, because I have voted for some of the very Dems who voted for this criminal war, and whose intellects certainly should have been keen enough to see through the lies.
A lot of us are complicit.

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Well, complicit means being ACTIVELY involved in a criminal enterprise, but voting is actually a very PASSIVE involvement at most and doesn't qualify as complicity.

So even if you knew that your own personal literal vote would put the future war accomplice into office (which is an impossibility to know), and that his or her vote would be the one that put the War enterprise over the top and into action, and you knew all this to be fact in advance - even then your involvement would still be PASSIVE.

The only people actively involved are the people actually voted into office. It is at that level of participation that complicity does or does not come into play.

That's not my opinion. That's just the structure of our democratic republic.

It's called 'REPRESENTATION'. If my congressperson robs a store, I'm not complicit. If my congressperson votes for something I'm against, or even something I am for, I am still not complicit. I simply voted.

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Yes,
My vote, like everyone's else's presuming it's lucky enough to get counted (not an automatic assumption these days), drops into the ocean of votes, and voting for a criminal or the next Lincoln or FDR becomes a moral choice, but perhaps a minor one- and certainly a meaningless one.
Likewise, Congress has relatively little reason to concern itself over its votes for war crimes;certainly it has more to do with the crimes than I do, but it is easy, in a pool of 535 representatives, to evade answering for the consequences of a given vote. You can always plead, The intelligence was cooked, The President wouldn't lie about a thing like that, etc.
The two Dem Sens. I voted for in 2006 were both enthusiastic prowar hawks. And additionally I had strong reason to suspect that Sen. Charles Schumer was not to be trusted. But I think a lot of us wanted impeachment and an end to the war,. and these contemptible-
yes, i will say it, I think the Democrats are utterly contemptible-
Democrats pleaded deception on Iraq and lack of sufficient majorities in Congress to do anything. They were elected on '06 to control of Congress on the strength of Bush's crimes, so a "sufficient majority" would not have been desirable in '05!
The incentive in our system of representation is to either plunder the nation and its hapless fellow nations- or alternately, to allow this plunder to take its course and let the country deplete its Treasury, its blood, and its good name- then the other side takes over for a while, till the next time we hit bottom, which is not likely to be long in coming.
None of us are complicit, except the Administration and its army of profiteers. That is the state of our Republic, where accountability is at present unknown.

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diachronic,

I'm with you, I've seen Col Wilkerson on TV a few times, he's been pretty rough on the Bush gang.

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Abstract thoughts about Social Security, Medicare and Defense. I omit Gov excise taxes and other fees collected by the Terasury.

Social Security is paid for by a tax that is over and above the income tax. We need to decide whether or not we want a Retirement program for all people to help keep them in living quarters and away from abject poverty in their old age. If we do, we need to find a way to accomplish this.

Medicare is partially funded by a tax. We need to decide whether or not the elderly, or for that matter, all US Citizens, should have medical coverage rather than using the hospital emergency ward for their illnesses.

The Defense budget, $600 Billion and counting, is funded by Income Taxes alone. We have to ask ourselves what this money buys us. It didn't protect us on 9/11, nor did it protect our installations around the world. It isn't defeating the enemy in Iraq or Afghanistan.
The question is; do we want to continue funding
this budget as we have in the past.

We fought WWII, and it seems to me that today we've been arming ourselves to refight that same war. We're not, we had our modern day Pearl Harbor on 9/11, but we won't again see another D-Day or Iwo Jima.

Madeleine Albright said to Colin Powell;

'What's the use of having this kind of military if we're not going to use it.'

That people think like that is frightening, but its the kind of thinking $600 billion a year buys you.

So there's the three big programs, decide what benefits they contribute to society then decide what to do.

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Good thoughts - just to add to them:

Social Security - people seem to forget that Social Security was put in place during a time when many people could expect to receive company pensions - and yet, due to cyclical economic problems, we still had senior citizens starving. Social Security is really a form of insurance, designed to prevent this. Hopefully, today, all those people who are now in charge of their own retirement (company pensions having vanished in favor of 401(k)s), and have never really experienced a serious bear market, are now starting to realize that having that safety net is a Good Thing. No matter how shrewd an investor you think you are, if the whole economy tanks shortly before your retirement, there may simply not be time to recover.

Medicare is similarly an insurance program aimed at those same senior citizens - through some miracle of foresight (or a lucky accident) it was kept separate from Social Security, so the disproportianate increase in health care costs over the years could be handled separately from the general rise in cost of living.

The defense budget was drastically increased under Reagan for one purpose - to bankrupt the Soviet Union. Having done that, Clinton (approved by a Republican congress) started to roll those increases back - obviously doing it all at once would have been (and would still be) disastrous for the economy. The sad thing is that now, we've pushed that budget forward again - only this time, the only country it will bankrupt is ours.

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Revisionary musings about just when the 90's defense cuts began? Liberals are such patsies. Kerry took the heat for spending cuts that began in the Administration of G.H.W. Bush, which were recommended by the then Secretary of Defense. For extra credit: Who was G.H.W. Bush's Secretary of Defense in 1992?

Two years ago, I began planning cuts in military spending that reflected the changes of the new era. But now, this year, with imperial communism gone, that process can be accelerated. Tonight I can tell you of dramatic changes in our strategic nuclear force. These are actions we are taking on our own because they are the right thing to do. After completing 20 planes for which we have begun procurement, we will shut down further production of the B - 2 bombers. We will cancel the small ICBM program. We will cease production of new warheads for our sea-based ballistic missiles. We will stop all new production of the Peacekeeper missile. And we will not purchase any more advanced cruise missiles.

This weekend I will meet at Camp David with Boris Yeltsin of the Russian Federation. I've informed President Yeltsin that if the Commonwealth, the former Soviet Union, will eliminate all land-based multiple-warhead ballistic missiles, I will do the following: We will eliminate all Peacekeeper missiles. We will reduce the number of warheads on Minuteman missiles to one and reduce the number of warheads on our sea-based missiles by about one-third. And we will convert a substantial portion of our strategic bombers to primarily conventional use. President Yeltsin's early response has been very positive, and I expect our talks at Camp David to be fruitful.

I want you to know that for half a century, American Presidents have longed to make such decisions and say such words. But even in the midst of celebration, we must keep caution as a friend. For the world is still a dangerous place. Only the dead have seen the end of conflict. And though yesterday's challenges are behind us, tomorrow's are being born.

The Secretary of Defense recommended these cuts after consultation with the Joint Chiefs of Staff. And I make them with confidence. But do not misunderstand me. The reductions I have approved will save us an additional $50 billion over the next 5 years. By 1997, we will have cut defense by 30 percent since I took office. These cuts are deep, and you must know my resolve: This deep, and no deeper. To do less would be insensible to progress, but to do more would be ignorant of history. We must not go back to the days of "the hollow army." We cannot repeat the mistakes made twice in this century when armistice was followed by recklessness and defense was purged as if the world were permanently safe.

George H.W. Bush, State of the Unuion Address, January 28, 1992


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Dick Cheney, the Secretary of Defense who offered such sage advice to then-President GHW Bush, is not, so Barton Gellman says, a neoconservative. Nor is he imprudent, contrary to the lunacy he offered the press about flower-strewn streets in Baghdad. In GHWB no doubt he saw limited possibilities for his ambitions- the one area, truly, where he is immoderate- and adapted his counsel accordingly, always watching for possibilities that could be exploited later.
The end of the first Iraqi engagement left fertile possibilities that lingered in his imagination. His very prudence then, in fact, may have been driven by a desire to return to the scene of this first crime later, when it could be more fully exploited. Or he may have used his own caution then opportunistically, as the foundation of one of his most ambitious later schemes (the mingling of fact and fiction being of great value here, since a single fact which is known to be so by its audience can make an otherwise hardheaded individual overlook a thousand lies).
Too, he may have realized that trimming Armed Forces could be used for its propaganda value. Col. Wilkerson's theme is apt: Sputnik terrified us into closing imaginary missile gaps, and the CIA would regularly alarm Presidents from Truman to Reagan about the need to counter expanding Soviet threats- not because they believed these reports to be true, but because earlier, more candid assessments ended up in the Executive trash. Presidents, with their eye to reelection, knew they could conduct that business better of addressing the public whenever a sheaf of exaggerated CIA reports had just been digested by their panicked top aides; it helped them exude the paternal air of calm the public (and their aides) craved, as well as the atmosphere of dangers well controlled that the public required.

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I agree. This is the way we need to start talking and thinking about this kind of economic problem. Good economic structure and policy creates stability and ensures fairness. It would not matter how you fund medical care, retirement or education, the gross annual numbers will be very big. The issue is how to fund them, i.e., what is the lowest cost funding mechanism that a) ensures the money is there when needed and b) ensures that the allocations are fair.

Different goods and services are best allocated by different types of economic arrangements. There is no unverisal "best" approach but instead there are a variety of basic mechanisms and institutional arrangements. Some thing are done most efficiently by the private sector and others are done most efficiently by government.

Monetary and tax policy is not as simple as the household check book. It does no good for the government to simply pour money on the ground and it is equally idiotic to not inject cash and even a bit of organization into situations where the need is real, the resources are there and all that is needed is a little organization and cash to get things moving.

Thus, I'm in superficial disagreement with those who demand a balanced budget at all real costs. The disagreement is superficial because I am in full agreement of wisely and prudently allocating resources. There is a difference and having the numbers match up sensibly is hard work and has a temporal dimension where the dollars are concerned. In fact, that is what borrowing and lending is all about: Keeping everything in balance over time.

We are not the Swiss Family Robinson. We live in a very diversive and complicated post-industrial society. Specialization and technological changes creates economic dislocations that cannot be overcome by individuals through saving or some sort of heroic effort. These are real costs that have been externalized by businesses. That does not make them go away. For example, if we reduce military spending, there will be an negative economic impact on many people. I do not see any wisdom in effectively punishing them when they acted in good faith. The same is true for major technological innovations like the Internet. The decline in newspaper revenue has reduced funds for journalists and investigative reporters. That is a economic dislocation that has not been fully addressed.

Minimum wage policy, unemployment insurance, education funding policy, medical coverage and retirement funding are all areas where governmental institutions and policies can provide a tremendous amount of stability and deliver needed funds in an extremely efficient way. If you have a solid and dependable floor, businesses can plan accurately and the overall economy is more resistant to shocks of all kinds.

We know how to do this and it does not involve some ideology: It is good economics plain and simple. It does not involve giving anyone a free ride. It involves recognizing reality for what it is and acting intelligently. The government needs to ensure that this is done fairly and that injustices are not created. It is hard work but it is just work, i.e., something we can do. What we are doing now is clearly not working that well. If we know better, why not do better?

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Dark,

the first thing that must be done is to reverse the Reagan system of "speading the wealth" upward.
We can't have a society where the top 5% take an ever increasing share of the country's total annual wealth.

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John,

You'll get no disagreement on that from me although I might say it has been more like "shoveling the wealth" upward. Putting the minimum wage and unemployment benefits at some realistic level, re-instituting a truly progressive income tax, and taxing corporate profits that are not immediately returned to shareholders are ways to do that.

There's so much that needs to be done and can be done. How do we get over the four decades of propaganda extolling outright avarice as a virtue? The generation that went through the Depression were barely able to get a mild re-distribution of wealth and Social Security in place. Too many people have come to believe that the American Dream means have a chance to get rich. Prior to the Reagan Revolution, the American Dream was to have a decent life.

I have no idea of what is possible in terms of change. They literally stopped teaching economics about three decades ago. There is a lot of re-education that needs to go on. People know when they are screwed and have a sense for when they are getting screwed but they don't always see why or what can be done about it.

Aside from the unworkable move to self-funding for retirement, the changes to the tax structure have done the bulk of the work in pumping money towards the upper end of the scale. I'll stop. I could go on and on about all this. It pisses me off to no end.

I really was pleased to see that you said what you said the way that you said it.

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Dark,

regarding your reference to the Depression, I was there, being born when Calvin Coolidge was President.

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Madeleine Albright said to Colin Powell; 'What's the use of having this kind of military if we're not going to use it.' That people think like that is frightening, but its the kind of thinking $600 billion a year buys you.

Variants of this argument are as old as The Nation. In case you didn't read it I posted an excerpt from a Federal Farmer (Richard Henry Lee) Letter in my blog in which he mused that the 2 year military appropriations limitation was nugatory when a large standing army was existent:
Richard Henry Lee, October 10, 1787.

The Circulariat of Unlearned Lessons From History.

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And without a standing army at his command Polk would have found it much more difficult to inveigle us into war with Mexico.

Allow the President to invade a neighboring nation whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion, and you allow him to do so whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such purpose, and you allow him to make war at pleasure. Letter of Abraham Lincoln (1848)

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Polk? That's a fairly obscure cite Ellen...You likely already know most, if not all of the backgrounder I'm posting here, but most Americans probably think that Santa Anna is just a city in So. California. The Lincoln letter you cited from was written to William Henry Herndon in 1848. Herndon was a law partner with Lincoln and after his assassination, became a well-known Lincoln biographer and archivist. Lincoln was a Congressional House member representing Illinois at this time. The Mexican-American War was fought 1846-1848, during the Administration of James Knox Polk. The Treaty of Guadeloupe Hidalgo was signed February 2, 1848, effectively ending the War, and this letter was written two weeks later. I'm posting the whole letter here, because it offers good historical insight into the War Powers of The President. Many Americans felt that Polk had overstepped his Constitutional Authority by starting a war without Congressional consent, based upon a flimsy preemptive defense of The Nation predicate. Texas had just been annexed into the Union (1845), and there had been bloody skirmishes between the US and Mexican armed forces in South Texas, because of a border dispute. America claimed all land down to the Rio Grande, while Mexico claimed land up to the the Nueces River, around halfway between Laredo and San Antonio. It is how the American Southwest was won. Christian Soldiers Marching inexorably onward with blind faith believing in the righteousness of Manifest Destiny.

February 15, 1848. — Letter To William H. Herndon.
Washington, February 15, 1848.
Dear William:

Your letter of the 29th January was received last night. Being exclusively a constitutional argument, I wish to submit some reflections upon it in the same spirit of kindness that I know actuates you. Let me first state what I understand to be your position. It is that if it shall become necessary to repel invasion, the President may, without violation of the Constitution, cross the line and invade the territory of another country, and that whether such necessity exists in any given case the President is the sole judge.

Before going further consider well whether this is or is not your position. If it is, it is a position that neither the President himself, nor any friend of his, so far as I know, has ever taken. Their only positions are — first, that the soil was ours when the hostilities commenced; and second, that whether it was rightfully ours or not, Congress had annexed it, and the President for that reason was bound to defend it; both of which are as clearly proved to be false in fact as you can prove that your house is mine. The soil was not ours, and Congress did not annex or attempt to annex it. But to return to your position. Allow the President to invade a neighboring nation whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion, and you allow him to do so whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such purpose, and you allow him to make war at pleasure. Study to see if you can fix any limit to his power in this respect, after having given him so much as you propose. If to-day he should choose to say he thinks it necessary to invade Canada to prevent the British from invading us, how could you stop him? You may say to him, "I see no probability of the British invading us"; but he will say to you, "Be silent: I see it, if you don't."

The provision of the Constitution giving the war-making power to Congress was dictated, as I understand it, by the following reasons: Kings had always been involving and impoverishing their people in wars, pretending generally, if not always, that the good of the people was the object. This our convention understood to be the most oppressive of all kingly oppressions, and they resolved to so frame the Constitution that no one man should hold the power of bringing this oppression upon us. But your view destroys the whole matter, and places our President where kings have always stood. Write soon again. Yours truly,
A. Lincoln.

Lincoln, Abraham, John G. Nicolay, and John Hay. 1907. Abraham Lincoln; complete works, comprising his speeches, letters, state papers, and miscellaneous writings. New York: Century Co. Volume I; pp 111, 112


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And without a standing army at his command Polk would have found it much more difficult to inveigle us into war with Mexico.

Allow the President to invade a neighboring nation whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion, and you allow him to do so whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such purpose, and you allow him to make war at pleasure. Letter of Abraham Lincoln (1848)

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I disagree with the characterization of social security as a "welfare state," with all of the negative connotations of that phrase. As shannom noted, social security is more properly considered as insurance or a pension fund. I have contributed to social security for 30 years and when (if) I draw from that account 20 years from now, it is certainly not welfare. And the fact that the various administrations have not invested or used the money I contributed appropriately does not change that.

However, we are supporting a welfare state that Wilkerson does not address -- corporate welfare. And it has grown to such a size that has become a drain on the economy. Beyond the military-industrial complex, the huge retail, petroleum, pharmaceutical, media, insurance, and financial corporations demand the privitation of profits while shifting their costs to the public.

In the name of promoting economic growth, the government has allowed itself to become hostage to corporate interests. Corporations are accorded the rights of a person without commensurate responsibilities. Corporations demand tax breaks at every level, and when those breaks expire they move their facilities, or threaten to do so until additional tax breaks are awarded.

Major retailers outsource production while they pay workers so little they must rely on medicaid and, in some areas, food stamps, to provide for their children. Corporate lobbyists have been allowed to write the laws to benefit corporations at the expense of individuals. Chemical companies refuse to secure their facilities, even though millions of Americans may be endangered because they calculate the risk to national security as less important than executive bonuses. Banks ignore sound financial practices to garner huge profits for a few individuals, with no regard to investors or the thousands of people their irresponsibity may make homeless.

These corporate entities leave it to government to make whole those whom they have damaged, to prevent the dangers their risky behaviors court, to support and provide for their growth and protect their profits, no matter the cost to the taxpayer. A free enterprise system can only exist when there is a balance between risk and reward. When the balance shifts, as our has, to where government assumes the risk while corporations garner the rewards, it is a corporate welfare state, not a free market.

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FICTION:

Today, the cry from across the country is almost the antithesis of Henry's: "Protect my life at any cost."

FACT:

On 1-4 February 2007, the Gallup polling organization asked a representative sample of US citizens if they thought the United States was spending too little, too much, or just the right amount on defense and the military. For the first time since the mid-1990s, a plurality of Americans said that the country was spending too much.

http://www.comw.org/pda/0703bm41.html

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Just to be fair, in support of Col Wilkerson we have Sen Biden, our presumptive VP:

"The Lord Almighty, or Allah, whoever, if he came to every kitchen table in America and said,
'Look, I have a Faustian bargain for you, you choose. I will guarantee to you that I will end all terror threats against the United States within the year, but in return for that there will be no help for education, no help for Social Security, no help for health care. What do you do?' My answer is that seventy-five per cent of the American people would buy that bargain."
http://jeffreygoldberg.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/08/biden.php

Are we in trouble or what?

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Well that's nice of Golberg to just dump an excerpt from the last two paragraphs of a 4800+ word article he penned for The New Yorker, out of context, and without a citation. The article was an analysis of the 2004 election, which asserted that Kerry lost, because he wasn't enough of a guns-a-blazin' warmonger during the campaign. Biden was already positioning himself for a presidential run, and this statement was a blustery, "I'm better than Kerry, this is the advice I gave him that he didn't listen to, and is the reason he lost."

He (Biden) told me that he won't make a decision on a Presidential run for at least two years. "My honest-to-God answer is, I'm not going to go on a fool's errand," he said. "If I think I'm the horse that can pull the sleigh, I'll do it. But if there's someone else out there . . ." He trailed off. But he didn't leave the impression that he sees an overly crowded field.

He has come to realize, he said, that many Democrats still haven't grasped the political importance of September 11th, and again he recalled how he had urged Kerry to keep his campaign message focussed on terrorism. Kerry, Biden said, would tell voters that he would "fight terror as hard as Bush," but then he would add, "and I'll help you economically." "What is Bush saying?" Biden said. "Terror, terror, terror, terror, terror. I would say to John, 'Let me put it to you this way. The Lord Almighty, or Allah, whoever, if he came to every kitchen table in America and said, "Look, I have a Faustian bargain for you, you choose. I will guarantee to you that I will end all terror threats against the United States within the year, but in return for that there will be no help for education, no help for Social Security, no help for health care." What do you do?'

"My answer," Biden said, "is that seventy-five per cent of the American people would buy that bargain."

Jeffrey Goldberg , "The Unbraiding - Can the Democrats make themselves look tough?", The New Yorker, March 21, 2005

Jeffery Goldberg is spinning the hell out of this quote. He was beating the drums of a Democrat led war in the article.

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Welcome Lawrence.

As someone who believes that Powell deserves no respect because of that UN speech, you have gained credibility in my opinion. Willingness to admit error is an important character trait. However, it is odd to come here and criticize the American people because of their approval of medicare and social security. These are programs that we can afford. What is your problem? Should those resources be used for more war?

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We definitely have an out of control security state but we don't have a welfare state by any stretch of the imagination. Not for average people anyway. I guess we have one for major corporations and Wall Street bankers who need our tax dollars to fund their bonuses.

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Harpo Marxism, or if you prefer: Cheeko Marxism.

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Colonel Wilkerson, sir; it was encouraging to discover that you chose to stand with the Friends of Liberty, speaking out about the detainees. Our Natural Rights are preeminent and preexistent to the the state. They are Universal Rights Possessed By All Humanity. If they are bounded by citizenship, then they are gifts from a magnanimous state; and as such, insecure. Rights given by a government will at some point in the future be rescinded by the government. The Constitution is not the fount for the people's liberty. It is instead the muzzle and chain for our leviathan. We the people must restrain our beast again. It is a rabid wolf set loose amongst the sheep. "Against All Enemies, Foreign and Domestic". Godspeed sir, and may the Dreamtime America still live, long after our lives have ended.

"An avidity to punish is always dangerous to liberty. It leads men to stretch, to misinterpret, and to misapply even the best of laws. He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."

Thomas Paine, "Dissertations on First Principles of Government", 1795


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Waxing lyrical, eh PseudoCyAnts?

Eisenhower's MI complex concerns are economic and budgetary; Cointel is a domestic struggle over values.

But the Homeland Security Agency is the step onto the slope that precipitates us headlong downward to the ever-present, all-observing eye of the dystopic state.

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An intriguing comment in view of your choice of avatar.

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Yeah, I am walkabout in, and a speaker for the Dreamtime, with one foot within the ideal, whilst the other remains firmly planted upon the real, constantly buffeted in the dissonance that demarcates the borderline between the two. An inherent will to freedom compels resistance; doing else would be abject self-betrayal.

The craven obsequiousness exhibited by far too many Americans; this loss leader bartering of freedom for security, only proves them to be twice the fools. Once, for not understanding that without liberty, there is nothing left in society worth securing. Twice, for being easily duped into believing that America's existence was somehow threatened from one heinous act perpetrated by twenty evil and determined individuals, which to America's great misfortune, got scheduled to occur during a Presidential Administration so arrogant, ignorant and derelict, it miserably filed in the performance of a primary Constitutional Duty: The Nation's Defense on September 11, 20011.

With a Preponderating Three Monkey Arrogant Naïveté, the American people refuse to pierce through the simplicity, and grasp the brutal irony of The Two Mad Georges:

  • He has erected the New Office of Homeland Defence, funded with the future's treasury receipts, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our People, and eat out their pensions.
  • He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.
  • He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws:
  • For depriving humans, in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
  • For transporting humans beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:
  • For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring island's Naval Base, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into this Country:
  • A President, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free People.

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