JtP could barely get his head around a tax system which may directly affect him, but he's sure on top of the Middle East.

Keep piping it, Joe.

We're going 80% for Obama no matter what you do.

Not in Florida, and that's the only place anyone bothers to count Jews.

can I just ask a question?

why do you all feel it's necessary to demonize Joe the Plumber? here's some poor schlep whose only crime was to ask a candidate a question at a photo op. it's not HIS fault that McCain is milking it for all he's worth.

do you really think this guy is deserving of all the spite and contempt you shovel onto him?

Then he should go campaign for Tzipi Livni, because Netanyahu is the real threat to Israel.

Joe the Plumber has become the new advisor on McCain foreign policy

Shortly after Wurzelbacher's statement was made, the McCain campaign issued a statement saying "while he's clearly his own man, so far Joe has offered some penetrating and clear analysis that cuts to the core of many of the concerns that people have with Barack Obama's statements and policies."

Let circus continue!

I read recently that Joe the Plumber was trying to get a book deal and may run for Congress.

MJ,

Forget Israel, I'd like to get Joe's views on the Russian incursion into Georgia.

"...think we run the world? Guess what, Repubs. We don't."

We don't? In the voice of my ex-machinist, Lower East Side-born father-in-law: "Ah, shit."

Why do we have to be their wedge ? Do they know, or do they not care, that using Jews as a wedge issue --

Stop kvetching lest I start retching!
When the Zionists decided on pursuing a project that could only be imposed with the agency of powerful, western countries, we willingly offered ourselves up for that position as sacrificial lamb and scapegoat. You wanna have a country carved out of other people's land, you gotta play on that field. And Oy did we enjoy it and take advantage of it while it was good. Why Israel couldn't do enough for the Christian Zionists whose eschatology demanded their destruction. Who's zooming who?
And remember, Zionism, as a practical political possibility, didn't get going until well into the twentieth century. So it's not as if there wasn't a huge amount of evidence about what would most probably happen (and it did) by then, the methods the Zionists used had been totally discredited.
Don't complain- these are the exigencies the Zionists picked, the game they thought Judaism as a religion, and the Jews as a "people" should play.
And how can even Israel's most powerful friends help Israel, when since her very first days, misinformation, misdirection and untruths have been the bulk of Israel's communication with the world?
You thought the Jewish religion just wouldn't be complete with out its own country. Maybe, but we shouldn't have taken out so many HELOCs on ourselves to do it. We're upside down in it now.