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Incitement: Can America Stand Another Four Weeks of This Verbal Violence

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Bill Burton, Obama's spokesman is a class act. He is one of the unsung heroes of the campaign. He is always effective and, unlike pretty much all previous spokespersons for Presidential candidates, he does not put himself forward. It's never about him. Always, Obama and the country.

Anyway, listen to the measured way he addresses Andrea Mitchell's worries about the incitement rhetoric coming from the McCain-Palin camp. For obvious reasons, he plays it down although he is clearly concerned. Mitchell, however, is clearly worried about this.

I am too, and not just about Obama but about the GOP stirring up dangerous hate against minorities and liberals.

George W. Bush went out of his way after 9/11 to make sure Americans did not take out their fury on random Muslims. He attended mosque (the first President to do so) and emphasized that the dark skinned or turbaned folks in our midst were not the enemy.

McCain is doing the opposite, stirring up hatred with no concern whatsoever where it could lead. This is the most sickening display I've ever seen by a major party nominee for President. Even Nixon didn't engage in this kind of rhetoric against McGovern.

McCain reminds me of Wallace. George Wallace ran a hate campaign in 1968 and spent the rest of his life trying to make amends for it. (I doubt McCain will be so inclined. George Wallace, for all his faults, did not idolize himself).


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His only problem is that he keeps saying there's "no one in Washington to fight for the middle class."

Last I looked, Obama was a Senator and thus in Washington. He should refine his line.

Agreed. It should be "No one in this Administration"

What worries me the most is how much the non-blogosphere folks really don’t care about the hatemongering. It seems the sole purpose of the violent speech is to convince “Joe Six Pack” to get off the couch and make it to the polls. I don’t think as many Americans as the media reports have really not made up their minds about which of the two men they would prefer to be president, rather they have not decided if they will take the initiative to vote. By appealing to those who think less but do fear people who are ‘different’ Palin is trying to get McCain over the finish line. As someone who works in a community college in Colorado, it genuinely frightens me to see how disenchanted people have become with the campaigns, and McCain’s hate speech further disenchants fair-weather Obama supporters from the whole process (maybe even makes them fearful) and gets the blood pumping in the Joe Six Packs that don’t like being around colored folk such as the Senator from Illinois who McCain so lovingly called “that one”.

Here's the way to combat and STOP the McCain "smearmachine" and HIS LITTLE ARMY OF FEMBOTS, in their tracks.

I mean really, HOW HONORABLE IS A MAN THAT SENDS WOMEN OUT TO FIGHT HIS BATTLES?

The tactic McCain is trying, is to send WOMEN out to attack because he thinks that a woman smearing Obama kinda softens the appearance of going negative.

The only people from the McCain campaign that I have seen attacking in the last 2 weeks are women, Sarah Palin, Nancy Photonauer(sp?), Nicole Wallace and now his wife Cindy has jumped into the DARK SIDE.


SOMEONE NEEDS TO CALL MCCAIN ON THIS. WHAT KIND OF A PRESIDENT WOULD A MAN BE THAT SENDS WOMEN OUT TO DO HIS FIGHTING FOR HIM, while he hides behind them trying to make people believe that he doesn't condone these actions.

My wife IS REALLY PISSED about the way he is using these women to hide behind.

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Is she not pissed at the women willing to do that whoring for him?

"George W. Bush went out of his way after 9/11 to make sure Americans did not take out their fury on random Muslims. He attended mosque (the first President to do so) and emphasized that the dark skinned or turbaned folks in our midst were not the enemy."

I took this to be among the "good things" Obama had said that Bush had done after 9/11.

There was a time, wretchedly brief in retrospect, when it seemed that what made this country great was that it was not a land of hate.

Needless to say things quickly changed.

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"George W. Bush went out of his way after 9/11 to make sure Americans did not take out their fury on random Muslims. He attended mosque (the first President to do so) and emphasized that the dark skinned or turbaned folks in our midst were not the enemy."

And we know Bushit was lying when he did that.


You're right about Burton, MJ. He's understated but on-message and effective. He's also a symptom of how disciplined the Obama campaign has been all along.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_DQUAuNUvw

Here's what I see when I watch Sarah Palin and her audience.

Note Tracey's comment at the end of the clip.

"Fanaticism and ignorance is forever busy... and needs feeding!"

Yep.

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You give Bush too much credit.

He also called our wars a "crusade" and continues to demonize "Islamic fundamentalists" while he is a violent, murdering Christian fundamentalist himself.

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Oh, and it's not just 4 more weeks of this -- Camp McCain is setting the tone for the next 4-8 years...

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/10/mccain-camp-attacks-now-foresh.php

This really looks like a repeat of what we were beginning to see in the closing weeks of the primary only elevated. The interesting thing is how it seems as people see this kind of hatred & racism & bigotry Obama's support cements & people just become that much more determined to see it finally defeated once & for all.
If it were an Obama strategy it would be absolutely nefarious. I don't see that it is & really seems to be the final strategies of 2 losing campaign with nothing else to try... Peace.

See footage of Obama in Asheville and Rednecks for Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr03WpZdhJo

and read Everything Matters, a liberal progressive comedic blog

http://blueintheblueridge.blogspot.com/

thanks.

DCastro

I do see this particular election as a crossroads. Do we take the next step forward toward enlightenment or do we retreat back to toward fear?

I am concerned that not enough of us are ready to take the step forward.

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I agree. This election is between those who recognize that the old paradigm is broken and irrelevant, and want to assert a new paradigm--and those who cling desperately with all the might to the old paradigm--even though all of the evidence demonstrates the old paradigm is dead.

Also, this is a generational cohort shift. Obama is NOT trying to fight the Vietnam War, again. McCain and his supporters are. It is so freaking old. I fought in the old revolution,--of course, I was very young, and I thought that we were winning...I am sick of fighting this culture war and I want the next generation to take the baton and run it down the field. Enough culture wars, already!

The Obama campaign HQ in Chicago and the satellite office I volunteer at are the most professional organizations I have ever worked at in my entire life, both as a volunteer and back when I was a corporate slave.

Since the despicable, hateful, bigoted and incendiary comments have intensified from the McCain campaign, I've seen a remarkable new interest in volunteers coming in to offer their services in whatever way - canvassing, phone banking, fundraising, anything they can possibly do. I would say it started with the bailout and McCain's campaign "suspension" but this week has been much busier. When I've done phone banking to undecided's in Ohio the response has been quite positive - They for the most part are now 100% on board for Obama. People stop me on the street and ask where they can get an Obama button - So I always just have a few extras and give them away.

I trust Axelrod and their entire group, but still wonder - When, if ever, will some decent republicans such as Lugar and Hagel come out and publicly rebuke McCain and endorse Obama? Am I being too naive?

When, if ever, will some decent republicans such as Lugar and Hagel come out and publicly rebuke McCain and endorse Obama?

After the election, of course. They will tell us, sincerely, how they were opposed to McCain's tactics the whole time.

Just as Lieberman will quit the Democratic caucus in a self-righteous huff fifteen minutes before they meet to boot him out on his ass.

More like Huey Long in drag.

McCain and Palin are running as the candidates of the **Republican Party** and before this goes much further, I think it's time for the "grown ups" in the Republican party to sit them down and tell them what the limits are ... and enforce it.

George W. Bush, whatever else you can say about him (and it's a lot) is not a hate-filled person, nor is he racist. That's the one strength I've seen in him consistently. Along with him, there have to be some Republicans who have enough sense and carry enough weight to tell McCain and Palin that what they are doing is creating a dangerous mood in the country (as well as guaranteeing loss of the election) and that they will not have the party's backing (or money!) if they continue.

I know it isn't long until the election (27 days) but that's long enough to set a fire and have it build up heat ... and then the election would be a 'dandy' excuse for it to really blow up.

I've been out of the news cycle for a couple of days, does anyone have an example of despicable, hateful, bigoted and incendiary comments besides one guy yelling "treason"?
I certainly hope so, or else the charges I've seen are bogus.

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Somebody yelled "Kill him" and just this evening Andrea Mitchell reported that another shouted "Off with his head".

I'm wondering if those people weren't hired to yell that stuff. It makes for such good theater.

They are bogus charges. Team Obama and the media are shocked that people in this country are not in love with their socialist candidate. It is absurd to point out 1 person saying 'kill him' when for 8 years we have heard repeatedly that Bush should be hanged, shot, tried for treason, etc. The left has been violently against Bush for years, but if 1 person says something out of bounds on the Republican side they recoil in horror. This is the atmosphere they created.

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We are all socialists, now, comrade, or don't you read the papers? Wait, it is obvious that you don't.

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MJ says;

I am too, and not just about Obama but about the GOP stirring up dangerous hate against minorities and liberals.

When Timothy McVeigh bombed the federal building and people learned who he was and what he stood for, attention was turned to conservative talk radio, especially Rush Limbaugh, and their mantra of hate and 'government is the enemy'.

Limbaugh, of course, pleaded innocent.

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McCain is not George Wallace, he is not idolizing himself, and his mudslinging is not going to win the election for him if Obama sticks to his message, as he so far has: Cheney and Bush, and their administration, aided and abetted by their party (AND many Democrats!) have mismanaged and damaged everything practically they have ever touched.

McCain is not a bigot but he is old and bitter and starting to come unhinged, and made the great blunder of throwing away his independent, straight-shooting past to jump on this bandwagon of arrogant and inept neocon hypocrite fools and wreckers.

Turn off your idiot boxes, with their idiotic political attack ads, and focus on the mess that America is in, its foreign policy and economy trashed and eviscerated, focus on the people that got us there, and focus on the REAL difficult policy choices ahead (not the feel-good token platitudes of Pelosi and Reed et al).

Because, once Obama wins -and if he avoids getting rattled by the frantic mud flung at him by McCain and Palin he will- the Rove Deceit Machine will shift gears to push the (with time increasing more effective) myth that the disasters actually wrought or exacerbated under Cheney and W. Bush, somehow all began on inauguration day, 2009.

1. Hypocrisy. McCain served on the board of an organization with right-wing Anti-Semites. Palin in her convention speech quoted a right-wing zealot who called for the assassination of Bobby Kennedy. They have associations as unsavory as Obama.

2. Responsibility. They know the false rumors radicals have spread about Obama and the interaction of those with their phrases "palling around with terrorists". McCain and Palin are personally witnessing the savageness and mob mentality of their crowds. If they claim to be leaders, they have a responsibility to open their rallies with a statement welcoming enthusiasm but rejecting hatred and asking for civility towards McCain's senate colleague.


I hope that the Obama organization encourages and aids early voting as part of its canvassing efforts in those areas where overt bigotry is wide spread. Encouraging hate speech also encourages hateful acts.

People in areas with a lot of tension do not need to be told what is making them nervous. All that has to be done is to offer to help them to vote early and have the means of providing that assistance. No pressure. No alarmist or partisan statements. Just a genuine offer to help them vote now. It will also alleviate the burden on volunteers on election day.

Perhaps non-partisan, voter-oriented organizations could be encouraged to do the same and contact information could be provided as part of a canvassing call.

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A little historical correction, MJ: George Wallace did not even come close to making amends for his devout racism until well after his 1972 campaign, when he was shot by a would-be assassin and left crippled for the rest of his life.

I don't wish anything like that on anyone. But let's face it: profound suffering is often what it takes for a lot of people to develop any sympathy for those they've hated or dismissed. Introspection and self-examination are not common traits. They are rare qualities, and not ones I have ever seen in McCain.

It so happens they are qualities that Barack Obama seems to have, judging by his writings, his public statements and the observations of many who have known him. It is one of the reasons I've supported him for more than a year.

Yes, and he's been there four years, McCain has been there 23 years. Who do you think has been influenced more by Washington? Obama came to the Senate believing he could make a difference there, but found that the only way to really do so was by working from the executive office. He understood that the only way to change Washington is to lead the way.

Joe's back - I just got an email "Getting Ugly".

"The McCain campaign is on the ropes, and sadly it's no surprise they're responding with attacks and outright lies. I've heard some pretty unspeakable things in the past few days -- deeply offensive smears that we'll hear over and over again until Election Day. John McCain and Governor Palin are setting a new low in presidential politics with their dishonorable campaign...."

I sent in quite a bit more than $25 - and I'm sure many others did as well. I'll just have ramen for dinner for another month.

let's see if the weasels in the MSM cover any of this...of course being the lapdogs for the R's, I would doubt it.... thought Obama had a strong 'closing' statement at last night's town hall "debate" but on NPR they only broadcasted McCain's closing arguments to the court of public opinion....

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"George W. Bush went out of his way after 9/11 to make sure Americans did not take out their fury on random Muslims. He attended mosque (the first President to do so) and emphasized that the dark skinned or turbaned folks in our midst were not the enemy."

Then he directed the federal intelligence and law enforcement agencies to racially profile Muslims who were thrown into jail without legal recourse...

I see the distinction you want to draw MJ, but Bush is as "us vs. them" as anyone out there. If anything, McCain is a malignant mutation of the flat out evil that Bush represents.