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Disrespect: Why Can't McCain Even Look At Obama?

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It's just one more reason that John McCain cannot be President. He has contempt for the democratic process.

By refusing to acknowledge Obama, Mc Cain sends a clear message that he hates his opponent for having the temerity to run against him.

Politicians usually go to some length to avoid the suggestion of personal contempt or hate for their opponents. Why? Because this is a democracy. The "my honorable opponent" phrase is intended to show respect, not necessarily for the opponent, but for the system. And for the voters, the people of the United States.

Mc Cain and Obama are both politicians, both democratically elected, and both seeking the highest office the American people have to offer. Mutual respect, at least the pretense of mutual respect, is evidence of respect for the democratic process.

McCain's inability even to pretend that he respects his adversary demonstrates his contempt not so much for Obama as for the idea of elections. He is The One. He is the Great War Hero who is entitled to the Presidency. Those who would stand in his way by running against him earn his hatred.

It's pathology, yes. But it is also subversive and utterly un-American. Nixon also hated his opponents but, unlike McCain, he was able keep his feelings under wraps. The fact that McCain cannot is evidence, one, that his feelings are deeper and that, an old man, he is incapable of masking any emotions.

More evidence, if any is needed, that John McCain would, if elected, make us understand that George W. Bush was not the least qualified candidate for the Presidency in American history.
Character counts.


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I don't agree that McCain has a contempt for democracy. But I would agree that McCain's body language makes him appear:

* Angry

* Erratic

* Old

These three character attributes are increasingly dominating his image and making his victory less and less likely.

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John McCain is a Spartan. He has Spartan values. Barack Obama is a competitor. In the primaries, McCain treated his other competitors much the same way. Like most Spartan boys, he would fight a competitor, even a member of his own cohort, to the death, in combat, because he assumes that if he did not, his opponent would destroy him.

This 'my friends' is the Spartan way--and it is a very common attitude among career military officers. I was raised by one, a bullet headed Republican, at that, and boy do I know that culture. I was pickled in it. Marinated in it. Nursed and nurtured in it. And I have a sense of visceral opposition to it. But I understand it.

To John McCain, Obama is the Enemy. He doesn't simply want to prevail, he wants to crush him. He wants to annihilate him. That is what you do to the enemy. If he proves he can survive your brutal assualt, then you are supposed to respect him.

KILGORE: "...Any man brave enough to hold his guts in can drink from my canteen any day."

Here is another cipher of John McCain:

KILGORE: "You smell that? Do you smell that? Napalm, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed, for twelve hours. When it was all over I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like - victory.

Someday this war is gonna end."

THAT 'My Friends' is Spartan culture for you. It's like my Dad always used to say back in the 60's: "It ain't much of a war, son, but it's the only one we got!"

I too was raised by a career military man, and I'm not sure that it explains John McCain's behavior. John McCain is known to say how he was very immature in his early adult years and was very much a nonconformist. What he is relunctant to say, is those things are still true today!

forget all this character stuff, it's his policies that are the issue.

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The power of the POTUS goes way beyond his policies--into the execution of those policies, their reaction to emerging developments, their communication style, their leadership qualities--their character, philosophy, and world view are at the heart of their governance.

The current administration has deomstrated this ad nauseum. Go back and look at every single policy definition and signing statement uttered by the Bush administration and compare that with actual results on the ground.

Then tell me that character doesn't matter.

...would have to disagree. Some political handler (Steve Schmidt?) probably advised McCain to ignore eye contact as way to gain psychological edge since McCain domestic policy is lacking. The McCain supporters thought Obama was being rude and disrespectful by addressing several times, the Senator from Arizona as "John" rather than as Senator McCain. During the first Pres debate, Senator McCain always spoke of Sen Obama as "Sen Obama". It probably cuts both ways for both Senators--using the title "Senator" and by using first name only of "John". 'Senator Obama' to mean, distant and impersonal rather using is as an acknowledgment of status and respect. And addressing Sen McCain as "John" to mean familiarity, less formal rather than insinuating disrespect.

Should Sen Biden address Gov Palin as "Sarah" or as "Gov" And visa-versa, Gov Palin address Sen Biden as "Joe"?....oh, look Senator, there's a moose running loose through the CBS studios....

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Agree.

Also, not trying to get McCain off the hook here, but I think all this talk about him refusing to make eye contact due to disrespect is overblown. It *could be* disrespect, but we really don't know.

Look, they guy is losing, he knows he's losing, and it's gotta be painful for him. That's not to say it isn't a bad idea strategically (or is that tactically ;) for him to refuse to make eye contact, because it is certainly having a negative effect on the way he's perceived, but I don't buy that it's necessarily disrespect driving tha

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Yeah, but Rosenberg wasn't only talking about McCain's body language at the debate, he is also describing McCains reaction to the questions he got from the DesMoines editorial board.

Frankly, every one of those questions were reasonable and ligitimate questions to pose to a presidential candidate--and the degree to which McCain got hostile and belligerent demonstrates both his sense of arrogance, and his sense of privilege and entitlement, that he doesn't have to answer any questions that don't stroke his ego? And how dare you not submit to my heroic stature? I received poor medical treatment at the hands of the enemy! So his response to these questions was entirely inappropriate given the public relations context. He was talking to an editorial board, for heaven's sake--he can't maintain a cordial posture for 30 minutes? He can't be open and friendly? He can only choose to be hostile, belligerent, and intimidating?

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Actually MJ was talking about Obama crossing the aisle during Senate session on the bailout bill and shaking McCain's hand. A great move on Obama's part.

Anyway, I'm not denying he (McCain) is hostile and defensive, just saying there are probably other unacknowledged emotions.

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Oh yeah. Thanks for reminding me. I got confused about this thread and another thread about McCain's interview with the DesMoines register.

McCain, shake a competitors hand? He would sooner bludgeon them with a bowling pin.

McCain is so emotionally fearful and traumatized that he cannot even elevate his own mind to encompass "the other", so "the other" to McCain is always his sworn blood enemy and object of his fear.

It's a character flaw, even in battle, because it gives his real enemy the opportunity to size up McCain but prevents McCain from sizing up his enemy. So too in the debate. And it's apparent to even the casual observer that fear is in the air and that the fear is McCain's.

Maybe it was the imprisonment. Maybe it was his rejection by and alienation from his own military pilot cohorts, and a bit more currently the long-term ostracism from his political cohorts (excepting Joey and Lindsey). Maybe that's how he was treated by the admiralty in his own family in reaction to his youthful pomposities and arrogance.

Whatever the causes, McCain's lack of eye contact is a blustery "doth protest too much" raw contempt, condescension, and disrespect for "the other", deriving from fear, of Obama in this case, from fear Obama is denying him his lifelong vindication which, to McCain's mind, is the presidency and only the presidency.

McCain's lack of eye contact also is, as stated by a scientist commenter Josh featured, the behavior of the weaker, lesser monkeys, who are afraid to look directly at their superior for fear of antagonizing it.

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You are on to something. With his Dad an Admiral and also his GrandDad, you know he faced some high expectations and little 'coddling'. In the Navy, you can be hauled before the mast for the crime of 'skylarking', which is an inordinate lack of seriousness with regard to duty. Look at the records of McCain's youth and tell me he wasn't a Skylark. And do you think his Dad or his Grandad every hauled his young but up before the mast and through the book of Navy regulations at him. The book that he was so determined to violate in every possible way?

This is a very good take on McCain's behavior, and how it might influence his policies as Chief Executive. He began the Des Moine Register interview Tuesday by saying how much he would like to be dictator, how such unilateral power could more easily alleviate crises like the financial meltdown. The dictator appetence obviously is a very pronounced part of his ethos - else, why would he constantly mention it? Also, his sneering responses indicate a real contempt for democracy and its actors. Many in the Beltway despise us toiling peasants; few are as overt about it as McCain. He is a strutting cocktail Caesar. Although his arrogant dismissiveness sometimes is merely a screen to evade uncomfortable questions, I think he really sees himself above the small-time hurly-burly of government of, for and by the people.

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a strutting cocktail Caesar

That is very good. I am afraid I will have to quote you. You know, when Nero committed suicide, he first had his servants did his gave. The whole time they were digging he kept repeating, over and over: "What an artist the world is losing!".

Be my guest. ...And would that some Beltway "artists" fall on their swords. The world could afford to lose them.

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Yeah, if they need grave diggers I am always able and willing to lend a hand. I'll even bring my own shovel.

I'm re-posting the below link to an article by Daniel Larison writing in The American Conservative magazine. His explanation for McCain's bizarre behavior is far more insightful and cogent than anything I could add. It is MUST reading.

http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/09/19/mccains-political-style/

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If McCain thinks he is always honorable, resistance to him and his ideas must ultimately be villainous and vicious, and we have seen him deploy his perverse, solipsistic ends-justify-the-means concept of honor against Romney and now against Obama.

But this is a classic Spartan virtue, and is shared by all the other professional warriors in my family. And honor and dishonor are at the heart of their 'code': Unit, Corp, God, Country.

Country First. Get it? It's a code from the military underground. When you are fighting the enemy, you must use the means of counter intelligence. McCain does not lie--he engages a dispicable enemy in counter-intel--i.e. he wages an information war--if his people are taken in as well--well, they are collateral damage in a struggle against an enemy that would harm them much more than the misinformation he uses as a weapon to protect them. McCain uses many Dog Whistles that Democrats never, ever even hear. They can't. They lack the organs of perception.

c4Logic,

Under the rubric of, 'things you always wanted to know but were afraid to ask':

How, exactly, do you create that cool colored text block background?

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How, exactly, do you create that cool colored text block background?

Use the blockquote html tag to mark the beginning and ending of your quote. Be sure to put a backslash character in front of the closing blockquote, following the less than character, to indicate close tag. Also, you can use other html formatting tags in your response ifYOU Wish.

Uh, are the html tags listed somewhere?

Wait, is this all of them, the four shown immediately above the comment posting window?

If so, what does the "" html tag do?

Thanks.

Okay, I was attempting to indicate the "a href" tag, but in trying to show it, it self-revealed it's function. Oy!

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Or maybe he's flashing to his peeps that he's as annoyed as they should be to be shaking Obama's hand when he should be lifting a drink from Obama's tray.

McCain's turned out to be a jerk under every kind of inspection; maybe racial equality is just another failure lurking beneath the Honor of John McCain.

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There may be "royal anger", when something is not exactly as it should be, so it constitutes an insults, and lese majeste cannot stand.

Ordinary mortals are angry because they are insecure. Sure, there are other ways that insecurity can reveal itself in a person's behavior, but nevertheless, it is still insecurity. McCain has plenty of reasons to feel insecure, being of moderate intelligence, moderate height, low physical ability, modest accomplishments, etc. A very intelligent, tall, strong, dexterous, self-assured and calm opponent is exercising all McCain's insecurities.

I think it's shame.
He knows that Obama is a good and decent man. He doesn't have the courage to attack him face to face.

THE 'MONKEY' ANALOGY IS INTERESTING..I HAVE A DOG., A TERRIER...SHE IS FEARLESS...I NOTICE THAT WHEN WE MEET ANOTHER DOG, SHE WILL STAND HER GROUND, NOT HOSTILE, THE OTHER DOG WILL AVOID LOOKING AT HER, ACTUALLY TURN THEIR HEADS ,UNTIL THEY PASS THE 'SNIFF' TEST...IS IT POSSIBLE MCCAINS 'EYE'AVOIDANCE OF OBAMA STEMS FROM HIS BEING CONDITIONED TO SUBMITTING TO HIS MILITARY SUPERIORS THEN TO HIS CAPTORS......HE ' SENSES' OBAMA'S DOMINANCE AND SO 'SUBMITS' TO IT........

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I like to imagine the possibility that Hon. Sen. McCain's rage is a self-reinforcing antipathy toward the Republican party and President* Bush in particular.

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Any possibility that McCain has a mild case of Asberger's syndrome? The inability to look people in the eye is a classic diagnostic sign.

Peace,
Paul

I think that McCain does not stand a chance of winning these elections.
I mean first of all he is too old to be president!
Secondly, if he can not even look at Obama, an innocent man running for president, iff he can not even look at him, then how can McCain run America, and put up with different people?

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On McCain's not looking at Obama, I've seen 3 explanations. A specialist in treating anger management said elsewhere in the Cafe that avoiding eye contact is something that angry people sometimes do to avoid the personal connection that could elevate the anger into uncontrollable rage. This conversation mostly discusses the aversion as a signal of contempt -- "You are beneath my notice." Primatologists and myself view it as a signal of submission. McCain not only looked away, he tilted his head and his gaze down -- downcast. On the other hand, Obama looked directly and intently at McCain whenever he wished and seemed to tilt his head slightly back -- "looked down his nose."

On McCain in the Iowa interview. His contempt and hubris are evident, but look at his eyes when he is saying things like the American people agree with my choice of Palin. When people blink so frequently they are intensely uncomfortable with what they are saying; it is a tell for evasion or outright lying. McCain does not like to lie and hates the interviewers even more for forcing him to do so.

I watched Rachel Maddow at lunch as she picked apart John McCain's claim of "always be 100% truthful" and challenged anyone "to match my records". Like he admitted in his own book that in the 2000 primary he lied about supporting the Confederate flag. He must be delusional, or a terrible liar as he didn't remember that he first attacked Obama and the Democrats of "injecting partisanship into the (bailout) negotiation", and in the next second saying that "this is not the time to fix blame". Hello? it's bloody schizophrenic to me. I wonder if he is bipolar as he barely control his temper when being called out for his lies and being criticized for his shortcomings and missteps. However, the "low ranking monkey" theory would be a closest explanation of his fear and anger.

Yes, lieing can take a person over and control them sooner or later how can they separate untruth from what is reality. I've talked to people like that.

When I watched the McCain, Obama debate I saw it immmediately! It didn't sit well with me at all. What McCain is trying to do is put negative vibes in all people who watched the debate and then Anyone Might act out what he did. Fat chance for that happening, for the People who have Self-Respect, Dignity and Integrity! I thought how can anyone treat another fellow Human Being like that? After all, McCain Might become President and he is there to Represent Americans and do good for all of you in Healthcare etc. etc., but he sees it as something different, that is Negative and thats not what most people want.

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