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Bring Back Politics, Please!

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Whenever a major national figure talks about "putting politics aside" for the good of the country, it's time to hang onto your wallet. So it is with John McCain and his suggestion about putting off tomorrow night's presidential debate so that he can ride into Washington and save the economy -- not to mention life as we know it. Barack Obama has put forward the same line (not on cancelling the debate, but on not "politicizing" the bailout), probably in self-defense, to avoid charges that he is a self-serving, unpatriotic, and -- god forbid! -- politically motivated person. Of course, it's all politics: the bailout is politics, the discussions over how to shape the bailout are politically driven, and the process that got us into the mess was shaped by politics. Why pretend otherwise? In the hopes that it might lull people to sleep and divert their attention from the question of who helped get us into this mess in the first place.

Instead of having a real debate about the proper role of government in setting rules of the road for corporate America and providing services that cannot or should not be delegated to the private sector, we're being treated to mushy rhetoric about patriotism and bipartisanship. The vote to authorize the war in Iraq was bipartisan too (except for a majority of Democrats in the House who stood up to their then leader Dick Gephardt and voted against the war) -- and look where that got us. As Theda Skocpol has suggested, McCain's gambit -- including his admonition to "put politics aside" -- is profoundly anti-democratic.


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Oh, my God!

Hartung's promoting class warfare!

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American presidential campaigns have always been three-ring-circuses but this campaign doesn't even qualify for the Big Tent - maybe a Sideshow but even those participants must be worth the price of admission.

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Looks like they have reached an agreement.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26884523/?GT1=43001

That John McCain sure can get things done! When he gets behind an issue, people follow!!

-- ARG

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The last time I heard the bill was 42 pages long. Way to go; blind us with verbiage.

Nothing to see here, folks; move along.

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McCain pulled a political stunt, and he will now go over whatever happens or doesn't happen with a scanning electron microscope to find, if only an atom sized tidbit he can spin into a glorious victory for his 'take action' "can do" personality, and the sycophants who gave us 8 years of the Bush/Cheney gang will lap it up.

There are two kind of people who make up the bulk of the modern Republican party; the utterly brain dead Rush Limbaugh dittoheads (subset, homophobes, anti semites, racists) and the educated greedy fascists.

Sarah Palin fits right in;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_DQUAuNUvw

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It is not only the lack of regulations that got us into this mess, if indeed it is a mess and not just a political move to try to revive John McCain's campaign. It is also the abandonment of anti-trust laws that might have prevented the concentration of power in a few corporations that can't be allowed to fail. Once you reach that stage, any gamble by one of those corporations is a winner for them. No risk is too great to take, when the taxpayers have to take the losses and the corporation takes the wins.

We still need many more days of serious study and thought about this "crisis", before any action is taken. The consequences of taking the wrong actions is too great to rush into.

Wow it's funny how the name caller above (calling Republicans "utterly brain dead," "subset," "homophobes," "anti-semites," "racists," and "educated greedy fascists") can sit on his high stool and say absolutely nothing productive about Senator Obama and his campaign. You know that name-calling is a sign of low self-confidence right? Maybe it's just your lack of confidence in Senator Obama's ability to govern and do his job if he were to become president.

Let's look at his current job as a Senate member. Heaven forbid he go help to resolve what HE called "the biggest crisis since the Great Depression" instead of going to an almighty debate. Since this one debate (which was asked to be postponed, not cancelled) is absolutely going to affect our children and our children's children for years and years to come.

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stix,

the big difference between me and you is that I think.

By the way, I didn't say 'all Republicans', I said the bulk of the modern Republican party.

On another note; as to saying something positive about Obama; he's leading in the polls, which means most of the public is now thinking.

Wow it's funny how the name caller above (calling Republicans "utterly brain dead," "subset," "homophobes," "anti-semites," "racists," and "educated greedy fascists") can sit on his high stool and say absolutely nothing productive about Senator Obama and his campaign. You know that name-calling is a sign of low self-confidence right? Maybe it's just your lack of confidence in Senator Obama's ability to govern and do his job if he were to become president.

Let's look at his current job as a Senate member. Heaven forbid he go help to resolve what HE called "the biggest crisis since the Great Depression" instead of going to an almighty debate. Since this one debate (which was asked to be postponed, not cancelled) is absolutely going to affect our children and our children's children for years and years to come.

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CAPITALS. BOLD CAPITALS! ITALICIZED ErRatIc CaPiTaLs!!! A star rises in the East.

Neither of them are on the committee that is working on this. They gave their statements about what they considered to be deal breakers and that's all they really can do. So where they both agree add it in and move this thing along. There will always be dissenters no matter what you do. He's been in contact everyday since things got dire talking to the administration and the congressional leadership.

These House Repubs are treating this like global warming "we have 200 economists who say this won't work".....ok. They found 30K scientists who say that global warming isn't man made. What do the other 100K-1million or so scientists/economists say. Don't hear any larger dissension among either sides economic advisers. Warren Buffet's down and put 5 billion on it. With his track record I'm on board as long as the taxpayer protections, reimbursement and the ability to refinance their mortgages are included.

Neither of them are on the committee that is working on this. They gave their statements about what they considered to be deal breakers and that's all they really can do. So where they both agree add it in and move this thing along. There will always be dissenters no matter what you do. He's been in contact everyday since things got dire talking to the administration and the congressional leadership.

These House Repubs are treating this like global warming "we have 200 economists who say this won't work".....ok. They found 30K scientists who say that global warming isn't man made. What do the other 100K-1million or so scientists/economists say. Don't hear any larger dissension among either sides economic advisers. Warren Buffet's down and put 5 billion on it. With his track record I'm on board as long as the taxpayer protections, reimbursement and the ability to refinance their mortgages are included.

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Warren Buffet's down and put 5 billion on it.

If the taxpayers were being promised the kind of deal that Buffet got from Goldman Sachs, no one would be objecting.

But that's not the deal on offer, is it?

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