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Dishonor Is Honor

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Jonathan Chait has a worthwhile piece up at TNR on McCain's pattern of lying. Usefully, he lays out abundant examples. He argues that McCain is arousing his base--in both senses--and therefore doesn't care a hoot when his lies are exposed by those googoo filters, The Media. Finally, Chait argues that McCain must think it's honorable to lie because his great cause is himself, his higher destiny--so anything goes.

This may well be right as a description of what goes on in McCain's mind. In any event, I can't think of a better theory. It jibes with Bush's fetish of the "good man," who, once he is held to have cleared that threshold, is absolved from all criticism. (I wrote about this in The Bulldozer and the Big Tent.) Perhaps McCain revisits that thrilling crossroads where St. Paul and Martin Luther meet, practicing salvation by faith, not works. Have enough faith that you are deeply, fundamentally, rock-bottom good, and your goodness will rub off on anything you do, especially if you apologize afterward. In any event, I wonder what the authors of moralist homilies like The Book of Virtues have to say about this cherished concept of honor, or whether the systematic mendacity of their party's leaders has driven them into stupefaction, or whether, perhaps--one can dream--there will shortly emerge an afterword about the Bush-McCain Twenty-First Century and How Most Conservatives Learned to Make Peace With Deception and Dishonor. Perhaps a new foreword to a reissued edition of Eric Hoffer's The True Believer, a great favorite of the Right when it was thought to apply chiefly to the Left.

But credit where credit is due to George Will, who wrote in yesterday's WP of McCain's "fact-free slander," his "pitting people who agree with him against those who are 'corrupt' or 'betray the public's trust,' two categories that seem to be exhaustive," his "boiling moralism and bottomless reservoir of certitudes"--all in all, a "dismaying temperament" which makes it "arguable" that McCain is not "suited to the presidency."


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I have a version of Chait's idea above. I don't think it's quite right to say McCain's "great cause is himself." Of course I'm speculating! I think that McCain gets up every morning and says to himself: "I must be the next President of the United States." And of course his oversized opinion of himself plays a big role in that. But he also is utterly convinced that at this moment, with the war in Iraq threatened by appeasers, and the international situation in such a state of flux -- that it is absolutely crucial that he and no one else be the next President. Now, I know that every presidential candidate thinks something like this. But for McCain it is a Moby Dick, Ishmael kind of obsession. His willingness to play fast and loose with the truth, and to threaten us all by selecting Governor Palin, is justified thusly: "Anything is worth doing if it means I walk into the White House as President. The good I will do as President, the mistakes I will keep the nation from committing, far outweighs the venal sins from the campaign."

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This is what Chait writes--I was compressing.

Why are McCain's lies worse than Bush's lies? I simply don't understand this sudden obsession with McCain's honesty.

What Chait (or anyone else, for that matter) fails to acknowledge is that Republicans (Bush, Cheney, DeLay, et al, ad infinitum) have operated exactly this way for years. Chait is wrong: This is not new. This is how Republicans operate (lie and keep lying even when you're called on it), and it works!

Duh.

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This is exactly why I don't buy into Obama's "bi-partisan" fantasy. These are not honorable people.

Thank you for saying this!

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Absolutely! I've been saying this for years. It's like the chickens "working with" the fox.

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Why are McCain's lies worse than Bush's lies?
Well, for starters, McCain is a graduate of the US Naval Academy at Annapolis. Said Academy has a stringent honor code to which ALL attendees are expected to adhere to. It doesn't come with an expiration date. Not the case with GWB.

So what? Didn't we already learn this "code of honor" is bullshit from Oliver North's stellar example?

Does everyone have Alzheimer's or what?

I for one was naive when bush took office as to the extent that politicians would lie, and keep lying even in the face of evidence to the contrary. So I'm more sensitive to it now, for one thing. The second point is that bush isn't running now. mccain is the candidate and the republican liar at the moment. Why has the MSM just started in on it? Probably because mccain has pissed them off with his frigid shoulder

God bless you, George Will. He's the voice of reason in all this...but unfortunately, the only voice the Great Unwashed public is going to listen to belongs to Faux news and the mouthpieces thereof.

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This is exactly how the USA gets into trouble over and over again--and especially the Republican Party, and especially--John McCain.

And you can see this pattern at work in 'The Quiet American'--with Alden Pyle.

It starts like this. I am good. I am the good guy. Everything I like and want is good and true. Anybody who disagrees with me is bad. Anyone who interferes with what I like and what I want is bad. Therefore, anything I must do to protect what I want is good. And anything my critics do to interfere with me is bad.

The problem with this line of reasoning, of course, is that it's upside down. We aren't 'good' because we think we are. We are good because the fruits of our behavior tastes good to others. The consequences of our behavior is apples and figs, not thorns and thistles.

So instead of realizing--when I sow thorns and thistles I am bad--and anyone who tries to prevent me is good--it gets turned inside out.

And Oila! You have Alden Pyle. Or John McCain. Or Bush. Or Cheney. Or any other those other deeply confused Republicans.

You don't do good because you wear the white hat. You wear the white had because you do good.

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Having money is good.
Not having money is bad.
If you have money, you are good.
If you don't have money, you are bad and deserve to cover the losses of those that have money.

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See FDR had money. Teddy Roosevelt had money. The Kennedy's have money. Warren Buffett has money. But these guys also have a sense of social responsibility.

Many, if not a majority of those voters who vote Republican do NOT have money. Many are rural. Many are undereducated. Many are fundamentalists.Most of these people vote Republican because the Republicans have sold them on the idea that Democrats are know it alls that sip machiato and eat fancy cheese and read the NY Times and look down on them. This is the mythology--and there are some elements of truth to it. But the evil genius of the Republicans is that they can make the kind of coffe you drink a political issue to be exploited for votes.

If it was just as simple as: all rich people vote for Republicans, all not so rich people vote Democrat, the Democrats would have a permanent ruling majority, and there would be no Ruling Class hidden in their high castles.

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If someone is virtuous, they are also humble, and thus would never tout their own virtue.

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Now we are at the real heart of the matter.

What is the true nature of Virtue?

Remember how that compulsive gambler who was into the casinos for millions wrote a book about it: Bill Bennett? He thinks he has virtue. Just because he's a Republican. That fact that he is a lying sackofshit with a serious gambling habit never crosses his mind. And I am sure that the fact that he is a serial killer and a mass murderer never crosses George W Bush's mind, either.

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First off, Chait is the same guy who wrote that ABSOLUTELY key article, a cover story of THE NEW REPUBLIC in October when it was too late, devastating the flipflop spin (whose bogusness was just about as obvious five months earlier). I would note that, eg, the 'We're for Kerry but we have to justify the lying' NEW YORK TIMES never even, AFTER Chait's belated piece, even ran so much as an oped arguing the points that Chait made.

(Chait's attempt to palm off the MSM -- AND progressive media AND progressive organizations' like progressive-leaning 527s, not to mention the miserable Kerry campaign -- being silent on this issue for five months as it hardened into national cliche as being due merely to media 'herd mentality' is as flimsy as the flipflop spin itself).

What I wonder in this election is, is the fix in the way it was (AND OF COURSE NO ONE DARE ADMIT IT) in 04 w/the media, in 08?

True, this year is a MUCH tougher sell. But note two egregious examples, about which I will be writing at more length in upcoming days and weeks:

First, in Palin's maiden national mass appearance at the RNC, she was totally vulnerable on two issues, especially the so-called "bridge to nowhere" and her anti-pork crusading masquerade.
True, the MSM did note, relatively quietly and belatedly in most instances, that she had been an ardent supporter of the boondoggle, even in the 2006 election when arguably the issue was already dead nationally. But what NO ONE mentioned at the time, and the NY TIMES has mentioned (several times in more RECENT weeks, generally
nonprominently although in passing in one recent editorial) is the THEN nationally publicized sweetheart deal in which Alaska got ALL the "thanx but no thanx" money, with GREATER FREEDOM ON HOW TO SPEND IT THAN EVER. Indeed, Palin's huge tax rebate to Alaskans (though made possible by the state government being awash in oil and gas money) was financed by a significant degree out of this sweetheart deal's monies, if indirectly and over time. If the media had made this obvious point DURING the Repuke convention, especially on national major network TV, it would clearly have been devastating to the McPainlin ticket, and of course therefore failing to justify the lying.

Also ignored was the less brazen issue about Wasilla, which is (according to Wikipedia) centered around huge shopping malls along a highway, and a suburb of Anchorage, where a full THIRTY FIVE PERCENT (!) of its workforce works. (That's without the 'crystal meth capital of Alaska' stuff thrown in). "Small town America"? Mayberry it ain't -- sounds more like Nassau County Long Island.

Now comes the BLOCKBUSTER story, (blockbuster precisely in the context of the financial meltdown) about Rick Davis and his company. It wasn't even on the FRONT PAGE of the NEW YORK TIMES!!!! What about the WASHINGTON POST and THE PHILADELPHIA ENQUIRER, etc? I'd be interested if someone well able got a look at MSM newspaper front pages as well as some way of gauging TV coverage prominence of this story as well.

This story it seems to me should be dominating the election news CYCLES from the day it came out (late Sunday), until the first debate (Fri). But no, it's "just another story"

As a cap I presented as a gift to Abbie's son Andrew Hoffman said: "Liberal Media MY ASS!"

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Just some supplemental material to put a little perspective on my comments above:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/23/freddie-mac-paid-mccain-c_n_128770.html

QUOTE (from the Huffpo article at that URL):

In a sharply-worded statement released to the Huffington Post, David Donnelly, director of the watchdog group Campaign Money Watch, said: "John McCain's campaign manager and Freddie Mac essentially had a secret half a million dollar lay-a-way plan. For almost three years, they made secret, monthly payments of $15,000 to Rick Davis for apparently no other work than for him to provide special access to a future McCain White House in exchange. If McCain knew about this, his presidential campaign should be over. If he didn't know about it, he ought to fire Rick Davis immediately."

Daniel Larison also has it right. Larison wrote his article before Will and maybe before Chait. See it at The American Conservative via the link below. Here is an excerpt:

"McCain exploits the concept of honor and frames every disagreement in terms of honor and dishonor, so it is particularly revealing that he is willing to launch dishonest and dishonorable attacks, because this drives home how much his concept of honor is intertwined with his own visceral reactions to opponents and with his self-interest. Contrary to the conventional pundit interpretation that McCain has “sold his soul” and abandoned his once-honorable former self, the thing to understand about McCain’s lies in this campaign is that he invests these misrepresentations with his utter contempt for his opponents. From McCain’s perspective, this infusion of contempt seems to transform shoddy, baseless attacks that disgrace him into indictments of the other politicians."

Here the link to the full article:
http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/09/19/mccains-political-style/

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In order to lie as he and Palin do, McCain's opinion of his base must be horrid. Here's a question:


Could a Democrat lie like McCain and expect to get from the Democratic base the high fives McCain gets from the Republican base?

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No. I and I believe most Democrats I know wince whenever a Democrat is even slightly reckless with the truth. To me the truth is everything. It' at the apex of the values pyramid. It's sacred. I could never support a Democrat who lies like Palin and Democrat. It is evidence of a serious, sociopathic character flaw.

Please spare us your idiotic "values pyramid," a figment of your imagination. Never mind that you're so into "truth" but you don't use your true name on a blog.

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readytoblow,

unless I'm mistaken, you seem to be saying anyone who does not use their real name on a blog isn't into "truth".

Am I right, Mr. Gasket?

No. I'm saying a "values pyramid" is hogwash. I'm saying Democrats lie too.

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And I am saying that heat is no substitute for light.

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Ohh- Kay. That pretty much sums it up for your side.

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Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. --Oscar Wilde

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Repubs always excuse their outright lying about everything they talk about, by saying the Democrats do it too. Of course, the Democrats do tell little fibs now and then, and all politicians do exaggerate. That is par for the course. But, McCain and Bush have carried the lying to the highest lever ever seen in politics. Absolutely nothing either of them ever says is likely to be true. They really "can't handle the truth" in any form.

I suppose if it were impossible for a Democrat to be elected without speaking only lies, he would do the same, but it isn't impossible. It may always be impossible for any Repub to be elected if he ever tells the truth about anything. But, we will never know that either.

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