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Paulson on Responsibility
Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson to the Senate Banking Committee, as shown on the NewsHour tonight:
I'm angered by the things that got us here....It may make you angry, it makes me angry. When you ask about the taxpayers being on the hook, guess what? They're already on the hook. They got put on the hook by the system we have, the system we all let happen, the system that Congress, the administration, future administrations, let exist....
Let's roll that back again: "that Congress, the administration, future administrations let exist."
I thought I'd heard a lot of ingenious buckpassing from these people, but this one about takes the cake, don't you think?
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Besides "future administrations" the things that got us here were things like Henry Paulson, who cashed in his ill-gotten, securitized-mortgages-based Goldman Sachs stock worth $500m TAX FREE to take his present job which includes raiding the US Treasury for more "capital" to feed George Bush's power base.
These criminals didn't "let" the system exist, they designed it for their own profit.
And who says the taxpayers are "on the hook?" Let's use the hook on Paulson instead, or is firing this guy off the table like everything else except bombing Iran.
September 23, 2008 11:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ah, the old forward pass ploy!
Apparently, based on the comments by one of Bush's press secretaries, this plan was hatched several weeks ago, fine tuned (all 2 1/2 pages of it), and then presented to Congress at the last possible moment, hoping they would panic and pass it before reading it (all 2 1/2 pages of it).
It looks like the more hours that go by, the more certain it is that there really isn't a crisis, or at least not one worthy of a trillion US dollars being tossed at it. The WMD apparently don't exist.
September 23, 2008 11:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
The old past, present, future linear thing is so pre-9/11. We can already say that much of this will have been President Obama's fault. Just as the failure to turn over a glistening, affluent, democratic Iraq will have been President Obama's fault.
September 23, 2008 11:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Classic!!! Placing blame about our current situation on unknown future people and decisions yet to be contemplated never mind made. Is it like The Street seeing the writing on the wall (no pun intended) and knowing the gravy train is about to end so they want to grab whatever they can while their 'friends' are still in power?
September 23, 2008 11:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
One thing that really bothers me is that I see it to be very possible that the whole bailout program was always nothing but one last grasp by the upper .1% to get the last grabbable chunk of the national wealth before the Democrats take over. It is generally a good rule of thumb that when you see a round mound of steaming stuff on the ground, and you also smell the rich stench of bullshit, it is best not to step on the mound. (Believe me that is the most profound thought I have this morning.)
September 24, 2008 10:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wow! That's some impressive buck-passing. I wonder if it'll be ok at work to blame "future bosses" for any problems?
Seriously, I wonder if his comment is an accidental prediction on the presidential election?
September 24, 2008 12:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why is this man's proposal even being debated? Why isn't the discussion about his impeachment. And for that matter, how about Christopher "I don't need any other regulatory powers" Cox?
September 24, 2008 12:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Outrageous, outrageous, outrageous.
Absolutely OUTRAGEOUS!
September 24, 2008 1:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ok, now I get it! Future generations are to blame. Therefore they must pay!!!
September 24, 2008 3:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ahh, now if that doesn't assuage guilt I don't know what does.
September 24, 2008 9:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Secretary Paulson's Freudian slip -- about future administrations having already let exist the same criminal situation that exists now -- clearly shows that Secretary Paulson expects that nothing in his current demands for obscene amounts of money and power will change anything whatsoever about the corrupt system that he has already gamed for fabulous wealth and privilege -- and fully intends to go on gaming again in the future. Out of the mouths of babes, indeed, comes the truth of things.
September 24, 2008 5:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
IIRC Paulson's misspeaking (and if you'd had as little sleep as he's had over the past week, you might misspeak, as well) came at a point when he was transitioning to his argument that the absence of specific guidelines gave future administrations “flexibility to run this any way they would like to run it.”
Enough with the silly, childish nitpicking!
September 24, 2008 8:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree that this was simply a case of misspeaking, but I also agree with Michael Murry (above) that it was a Freudian slip.
I was watching the News Hour, and at that exact moment I said out loud to my TV, "FUTURE administrations?!"
And I immediately thought: Freudian slip.
Because I have believed for some time now that we are headed to a financial meltdown -- it's only a question of when. And I believe there is a strategy by the Republicans to forestall the inevitable just long enough so that they can place the blame squarely on the Democrats -- with a Democratically controlled House, Senate, and Presidency.
I think old Hank was suffering from lack of sleep. And so he let slip what he's really thinking.
-- ARG
September 24, 2008 11:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
The Kondratief Winter of Our Discontent
1974-1982 = 2008-2016
The 2000/2007 double top looks awfully like 1966/1973, the last double top.
September 24, 2008 1:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, Kondratief cycle or Elliot Wave theory point to a big crash, as do demographic arguments and the history of economic boom/bust cycles and fiat currencies.
Over the past few years I read 3 or 4 books, each with a different basis for their conclusion, but each concluding the same thing -- Big Crash Coming.
I think we're getting close now, sad to say.
-- ARG
September 24, 2008 2:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Henry Paulson is just the reincarnation of Don Rumsfeld. Heart of flint and remorseless liar.
From his testimony:
From the legislation proposed a few days before:
Like Rumsfeld, a naked power grab, but with an apparently sincere explanation that the written word had just been misinterpreted. Rumsfeld was CEO of Searle because of a friendship, while Paulson headed GoldmanSachs because he was the quickest, fiercest predator. Paulson is smarter.
Like Rumsfeld, the right-wing, face-lift coven just adores Hankie.
September 24, 2008 2:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
I saw it more of a misspoken phrase in a difficult role and not a political jab. I assume that he was inferring that the problem is going to be an overriding problem for any new administration and that the big job is not the decision of the money but the necessary overhauling of the entire industry. I think it is obvious, as he professed, the proof will be in the new regulations. Is he just being savvy knowing that nothing but symbolic changes will happen before the holidays and the new White House. The Entire Capitol will be passing the big buck until later - giving us a few IOU's to whitewash the lack of regulatory oversight by everyone - there lies his sincere anger.
Please tell me if I am wrong, but it has been Paulson's lonely voice, who has since he got there 1.5 years ago, that has been making a fuss about lack of oversight and inequities. As far as passing the buck - what exactly has the Administration or the Congress done? It is Congresses responsibility to regulate and sell those regulations as fair and necessary. Because of politics, Bush was given the lead, which makes me angry when I see our Representatives' Indignation over the bailout when it happened on their watch and their lack of political ability. How quickly I tire and grow angry over the newest catchphrase that everyone tries to own - the latest one being looking after main streets. I wish they would just get to work and save the pompous hometown flag waving that everyone is guilty of.
I certainly not an expert on Paulson's character, but after watching him on TV for what seemed like 20 hours yesterday, he has been the best Executive representative that has been sent to the hill. I may be wrong, but he came across as an industry and capitol wonk who truly assigns a personal pride from the banking and finance industry. And there was sincerity and ownership in his beliefs. Maybe I was duped, but I don't see him accepting another political role in this administration. That's why only after yesterday did I believe the quick cash is necessary and the threat of a Wall Street Freeze is real and we were almost there Thursday as the stories go.
Does anyone know if there is an institutional formula that automatically shuts things down - or is it more of a board decision? It was a sobering realization that I and most everyone else, most shockingly most in DC, have absolutely no idea how such a definitive measure of our society just rumbles along and only receives attention when something horrible happens, and it is too late.
We certainly have neglected those necessary studies of philosophy, ethics, economics like any good Classical American Renaissance Citizen should develope. Is this too much to ask? I would imagine most households ignorantly don't even understand their mortgages, their most intimate investment - can we also ask that they understand the financial institutions that keep there communities healthy?
September 24, 2008 8:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
I guess Hank's betting on an Obama Administration. If that's how they're betting, perhaps the Repubs can gin up an effort to impeach the future president. Why wait till the guy is elected?
September 24, 2008 8:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why wait indeed. Repubs have never been shy about impeachment. Now the Dems...........
September 24, 2008 9:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
OHHHH!! God forbid that the Democrats should cause anyone to become mildly annoyed with them. Oh please, don't be alarmed with me! What can I possibly do to assuage any discomfort I may have inadvertantly caused you.
See, if the Democrats would actually MAN THE BARRICADES--I would be the first one there with my saber in hand. But all this hand wringing, cringing, 'We don't know what to do'. And 'We don't want anybody to be offended." and 'Oh please don't criticize us. We try SO hard to be politically correct. Just don't bitch slap us anymore."
They have abused domestic partner syndrome.
It's like that scene from Streetcar Named Desire when Stanley cleans his place from the table by slamming his dishes to the wall. 'Now that's how I'm going to clean my place. You want me to clean your place?' And the women cringe.
That scene is Paulson and the Democrats to a T.
September 24, 2008 10:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh they've got that possibility covered.
Army Times
September 24, 2008 1:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I guess this is to get ready for the riots that will ensue when Bush suspends Federal elections until the economic crisis has been resolved.
September 25, 2008 8:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
I see this as a classic Freudian slip. The Republicans have the greatest possible gap between what they say and what they do. The only reason for their political success is the vast build up of right wing radio rabble rousers, the corporate takeover of the MSM, and political architects such as Karl Rove who calulated, quite cynically, that if he could package a candidate to look and sound like a country and western star, biblical phrases easily slipping off his tongue, that they could prevail at the polls, handily. And he was right. They did the same thing with Ronald Reagan, whom they got from central casting. Reagan might as well have been selling Quaker Oats with his 'morning in America' bullshit.
Reagun, and W never set policy. They were the brand image on the product. But they did not craft the product. Both times the gates to the public treasue were thrown wide open. Both times an enormous kleptocracy emerged. These people do not believe that government can do any good--that is why they have no compunction to suck it dry. It's what the government, and the people, deserve. If it all breaks, all the better. They make money on calls, they make money on puts. They do not take the notion of public policy seriously. These people have a profoundly amoral set of sensibiities.
Listen to Paulson. If we constrain the golden parachute, distressed financial entities will have no incentive to accept the taxpayers offer of help. Say What?!? Wrap your mind around that fact. Doesn't it tell you everything you need to know?
These people are not to be trusted. They are engaged in the sacking of Rome.
September 24, 2008 9:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Listen to Paulson. If we constrain the golden parachute, distressed financial entities will have no incentive to accept the taxpayers offer of help."
Ha ha - brilliant! That's like locking up and taking the keys to your Ferrarri gives me no incentive to steal it! It's hard out there for a pimp!
September 24, 2008 10:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
What is so painful about this is that they are telling us up front that this is a JACK. And people are not going into the street with torches and pitchforks and nooses.
It is the single biggest act of thievery in world history. And they are telling us it is theft.
Please, sir, may I have another!!!!
September 24, 2008 10:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
this reminds me eerily of all of the Republicans who are crowing the Rush Limbaugh lines that Obama WILL raise the taxes for the middle class! (they don't specify whether he is going to raise our taxes before or after he cuts them), and Obama will "ruin our economy with tax and spend policies." I want to know what part of our economy hasn't already been ruined by Bush, is what I would like to know. Sometimes I feel like the Republican loyalists live in some sort of bizarro world where they repeat in mirrors to themselves "I'm rubber, you're glue!"
September 24, 2008 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
Damned straight. They are using this whole thing to screw the "future administration".
Now, we somehow need to cut through the bullshit and gauge to what extent this crisis has been, and is being, ginned up.
September 24, 2008 11:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
"That's why only after yesterday did I believe the quick cash is necessary and the threat of a Wall Street Freeze is real and we were almost there"
I would buy this "immediate instant freeze at any moment now" ploy much more readily if either one of these guys--Paulson or Bernanke--had offered so much as a simple minded "instant freeze for dummies" explanation of how it is about to happen. They knew they were on the tube. They knew they had to sell it. Our Senators told them they need to sell it.
All they had was stuff like "ooh-ooh you won't be able to get a car loan." Well, in the words of our Vice President: "So?"
If we're supposed to hand over $700 billion, I want to hear the real explanation of how these high flying institutions have effectively put themselves out of business.
September 24, 2008 12:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the simple answer is that they have no more money under Grandma's mattress because those damn unruly grandkids stole it out from under her. And that sounds like a response we might get from our Senators et al. I want something more. I don't see it in Paulson's nature to be able to be our voice, outside of the conflicts of interests his position might hold for me. I don't expect anything more than competence from him, which is welcomed compared to the other hubris filled Dept heads we are used to from the Administration.
I think as a country we are ill equipped to understand even the basics of our economy. I am still surprised that some still understand our economy to be based on currency rather than markets even by those simple definitions. I really wish my own Barney Frank would take a more visible leadership role considering his position and accessibility (in spite of his horrible dictation).
September 24, 2008 7:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just because we're "on the hook" doesn't mean we have to let them reel us in. We either let their Ponzi scheme fail or let it succeed on the backs of our grandchildren.
Our Treasury is the last insurance they can scam. THEY should pay for their crimes, not have them propped up!
(UNLESS there are no WMD there.)
September 24, 2008 12:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey Paulson, I have a garage full of stuff I don’t want anymore and nobody else does either: wood scraps, old camping gear, a ton of baby and toddler stuff (including a Hot Wheels!) — a lot of junk. The thought of all of that just really drags me down, psychologically you know. So how about you take all that junk off my hands so I can feel better and maybe use the space for the stuff that’s cluttering up my house. Just pay me, oh, $50 million in taxpayers’ money and come haul it away. That’d be great. Thanks!
September 24, 2008 1:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Assume that Paulson and Bernanke are sincere but sincerely wrong. They've demonstrated that their understanding of the overall economy is seriously flawed. Nothing was done to prevent the bubble. In fact, much was done in the way of cheer leading and weak statements of concern.
They are not the one's to "fix" the problem. Their words and deeds show that they have not learned one thing and that all they know how to do is to throw money at the same people so that they can keep their balance sheets tidy.
Everyone knows a recession is inevitable. Many believe we are already in one. Plenty of state and local governments are in real trouble and they often do something. They ignore people who have stopped looking for non-existent work. They fudge the CPI numbers so inflation doesn't look as bad as it is. The only recession they are worried about is one is their particular milieu.
The money needs to go where it will fund real jobs that provide real goods and services... you know, economic activity. The mortgage/housing price problem needs to get sorted out in the communities where there is a problem by people who understand the local employment and price structure and have a real interest and stake in the local economy.
September 24, 2008 3:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
No Bailout! No Bail!
September 24, 2008 (LPAC)--Hank "Hjalmar Schacht" Paulson and his banker buddies insist that we have no alternative but to bail out the banks immediately, and only then, after the crisis has passed, can we take steps to make sure it never happens again. What a crock! The way to make sure that this never happens again is to teach the bankers a lesson they won't soon forget, by letting them suffer the full consequences of their incompetence and criminality. All we teach them if we bail them out is that they can get away with it, so let's show them the full power of national regulatory and criminal justice: shut them down, put them through bankruptcy proceedings, reorganize the essential banking functions into a new, highly regulated banking system where speculation is prohibited, and freeze all the debts, derivatives and bets until they can be sorted out. Break this parasitic system, bring banking back under tight government control, and begin the investigations to expose and punish the criminality. No bailout, no bail! That's the way to do it. That's a lesson they won't soon forget.
http://www.larouchepac.com/news/2008/09/24/no-bailout-no-bail.html
September 24, 2008 5:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Paulson is dancing as fast as he can. In his testimony to Congress, he said that he didn't include any provisions for oversight because he felt that would be...wait for it...presumptuous!
September 24, 2008 6:46 PM | Reply | Permalink