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Charlie Gibson's War

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Well, not war, but a milder though satisfying combat and a valuable moment of self-redemption. By network standards, Gibson was a lipstickless bulldog. The encounter was combative enough to blow some of her Teflon off.

Much has already been written on segment one of the Gibsonthon, aired on World News Tonight Thursday. Palin didn't recognize the pillar of Bush's foreign policy, and then mischaracterized it. She repeated her absurdity about command of the Alaska National Guard and proximity to Russia. (He might well have asked her what she'd learned from all that proximity.) She declared that she was ready for war with Russia. Mild-mannered Charlie, who is always wishing us a good day, confessed: "I get lost in a blizzard of words there." I've never heard him so blunt.

On the Friday night 20/20 segment, Kate Snow's teaser began: "You discover her story is part fact and part fable." Palin was an earmark queen, winning $27,000,000 for 6000 people. She spent $8,000,000 on a road to nowhere. "Some of her best friends...are reluctant to endorse Sarah Palin the candidate," Snow reported.

That was for openers. Then Gibson continued: "We've got a very sick economy....What are three principal things you would change in the Bush economic plan?" Her answer: "Put government back on the side of the people." She touted "what I did with Wasilla. We cut the personal property tax." Gibson: "You came into a debt-free city and left it with considerable debt."

Gibson: "You've advertised yourselves as the party of change. What would you change in the Bush economic plan?" As she rolled into her preprogrammed cant, drifting away from his question, he had to keep pressing her. Here's what she came up with at last: 1. Reduce taxes. 2. Control spending. 3. Oversight. Now, oversight is only partly an executive prerogative, though it's awfully important. The question she skirted (but so did Gibson) was, why have eight years of Republican rule seen such an abdication of oversight? Where does she intend to find honest regulators when her party--the traditional font of executive appointments--specializes in cronies and other interested parties who buy their way into the ostensible headquarters of regulation? Where was her party when it elevated the likes of Brownie--remember him, the horse association leader who ran FEMA into the ground? Did she call for oversight when she was a mayor or governor?

When she called for "efficiencies," Gibson asked whether that included entitlement programs. "All sectors," she clarified.

He might have asked what's so inefficient about Social Security. He might have asked whether she agreed with her running-mate that Social Security is a "disgrace." Still, to me, Palin sounded unconvincing.

"Why do you keep saying Obama's going to raise taxes?" "What was wrong with the Clinton economic plan? He produced 22,000,000 jobs against 5 million for Bush." Her bulldozer bulled on.

On the Bridge to Nowhere, he was Robert Jordan and William Holden in "The Bridge over the River Kwai" rolled together.

What do I know? I don't, of course, know how any of this played with independents who are disinclined to believe that Charlie Gibson is Satan's playmate. Are they prepared to believe that "Alaska is such a microcosm of the rest of the United States"? Do points 1-3 sound like a plausible remedy for the grave economic malaise and the Bush depredations? Doubletalk, tripletalk.

I suppose there are some independents who are independent not because they're conflicted but because they know little, pay attention to little, and like to style themselves just fine because of their ignorance. Perhaps the fact that she kept talking works to her benefit--she's "strong," which seems to be American for obdurate.

I give Gibson a B+. He didn't ask about Palin's affection for the Alaska Independence Party, the America-hating affiliate of Jerome Corsi's lunatic Constitution Party. There's much more to be said about her grotesque misunderstanding of the melting Arctic ice cap next door--about as close as Russia, in fact. There's vastly more to be known.

Still and all, I'm guessing that Sarah Palin has peaked, and my apprehensions about Charlie Gibson are, for the moment, assuaged. Who'll step up next to fill in the spaces he left?

Update: Thanks to a reader whose first initial is J. for pressing me to clarify what I meant about oversight.


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Sean Hannity.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/12/next-up-for-palin-sean-hannity/

His interview will be taped Tuesday in Cincinnati, Ohio, and will be shown on “Hannity & Colmes,” Fox’s 9 p.m. political talk show, on Tuesday and Wednesday.

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You know that Steve will hand the questions to Sean. They may even rehearse together. Pure Kabuki Theater. Why do they even bother?

I won't be watching as it will be painful, I am sure, to see his face lodged to tightly up her behind.

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Sean Hannity.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/12/next-up-for-palin-sean-hannity/

His interview will be taped Tuesday in Cincinnati, Ohio, and will be shown on “Hannity & Colmes,” Fox’s 9 p.m. political talk show, on Tuesday and Wednesday.

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oops.

McCain/Palin -- The Lie to Nowhere

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Good one.

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Todd,

if you go to the 1:08 mark of the Palin interview featured by Josh you will see her justify earmarks, and not just hers.

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Todd,

if you go to the 1:08 mark of the Palin interview featured by Josh you will see her justify earmarks, and not just hers.

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Todd,

if you go to the 1:08 mark of the Palin interview featured by Josh you will see her justify earmarks, and not just hers.

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mcSham and Lady mcShame: Partners and Soul Mates in Lying!

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Howdy Doodie and Clarabelle

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I liked the bit when they showed a shot of her wearing the T-shirt which said "Nowhere Alaska 99901" -just as she referred to it as a T-shirt with the zip code of the town. Now which part of that shirt don't you want to talk about Sarah?

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At some point her newly minted mcSham positions are going to lead Alaskans to dump her as gov! Ah... the irony!

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onemip,

I noticed the same thing. She's just another dissembling winger.

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onemipi,

I picked up on that too, she's just another dissembling Republican.

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I liked the bit when they showed a shot of her wearing the T-shirt which said "Nowhere Alaska 99901" -just as she referred to it as a T-shirt with the zip code of the town. Now which part of that shirt don't you want to talk about Sarah?

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Argggh!

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I'll give Gibson credit because he did make sure to point out that she kept that damned money she received for the bridge to nowhere. I'd have like a follow up that asked her just what she did with "our" money.

I enjoyed her trying to explain the seal DNA and crab research. She said that research money was requested by various institutions and agencies, but it was all okay because it was "out in the open, not inserted by lobbyist." I'd counter that any governor would say the same for his/her state's earmark requests!

If Alaska wants infrastructure, might I suggest a state income tax? Or at least a roll back of the annual "you live here so here's a great big check"? To the rest of us, Alaska is no more that the biggest welfare state in the union.

Clueless on the economy, clueless on foreign policy, but gee, she sure has spunk!

PEACE

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One thing I don't understand. If she is getting so much money from you and from me--then how come she gives thousands away to every state resident every year? MY state doesn't give me money, it takes money. But I don't mind paying for the services they provide. I think street signs and traffic lights are a good thing.

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Some of her statements can made into such great attack ads.

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c4 asks;

If she is getting so much money from you and from me--then how come she gives thousands away to every state resident every year?

Excellent observation and question.

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What she did with the money was explained in the intro: she built a road to nowhere which can only be seen from the air.


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That gravel road cost anywhere between $8 and $20 million, depending on who's talking.

So what happened to the other $200+ million?

PEACE

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Your comment makes me wonder if the reason Gibson was so calm and soft and non-confrontational was precisely because he understands that if she had appeared to have had to defend her self from the "evil media" by talking tough it would render her actual answers meaningless. This way, her answers are on the record and can be slowly dissected over the next two months.

I still can't believe they LIED about the teleprompter malfunction at the convention. It's all theater with Rove and this interview took away that stage -- at least for this set of answers.

Thanks for this review Todd. We can easily ascertain that the Gibson interview damaged Palin by perusing the many hastily-penned post-interview articles by neocons rushing to rescue Palin from her Bush Doctrine gaffe and personally excoriating the hand-picked Charles Gibson for the interview. Very telling. You might even say that if you've lost Charles Gibson, you've lost the country.
But we'll see.

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Palin peaked the day before Gibson's first interview. It's time for Obama to turn all the focus on McCain and not allow his campaign to distract him by using Palin.

Pavin will self implode, she doesn't need any help from critics who will be seen by women as being sexist.

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Palin's the best thing McCain's got. Go after her with surrogates.

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At this point definitely tie McCain and Palin together. They're both incredibly huge liars and she reflects horribly on his judgment. If you're such a earmark reformer Senator McCain then why did you pick the the single biggest pork abuser from the single biggest federal welfare state in the country as your running mate?

Even Fournier's damn AP which is carried by about every little paper in the country is turning on them. Every little paper mind you that we all should be commenting on with the facts with links to the videos if their comment policy will allow it. Expose these frauds, as George S. Patton would say turn their flank and kick 'em in the ass.

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Bingo!

"McCain is just like Bush and Palin is just like McCain"

or

"What's the difference between a dangerous man and a dangerous woman? Lipstick, of course."

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"Partners and Soul Mates" in Lying.

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Mr. 90% and Lady 90%!

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Take down Lady mcSham, you knee-cap mcSham.

The mcSham Slander Sircus:

1. lying
2. crying (wolf)

That's all they seem to stand for!

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WOW! "Cry Wolf!"

That would make an excellent ad theme from Team Obama. Turn those wolves right back on them.


PEACE

Despite the conventional wisdom which says to beware offending them at all costs...

Other than winger women (with whom I try, generally, not to hang), every woman I know, or whom I don't know but whose comments I've read, actually thinks that the whole meme of "Criticize Sarah--you're a sexist!" is a condescending, total crock of shit. Women.

American women, taken as a whole, are nowhere near as dumb and gullible as the Republican Party would prefer them to be. That's one encouraging thing.

Finally some sensible answer to the McCain whine about sexism. Can you imagine what the neo-cons would say if Hillary had used that truly SEXIST whine to divert others from criticism of her. She never did it and for women to accept that silly idea about Palin is a REAL form of sexism. For women to get in the kitchen and then their surrogates cry "sexism" because they cannot stand the heat certainly turns me off - a 75 year old woman who has worked all my life and have been treated very fairly for the most part. Palin makes me ashamed of her because she is such a whiner.

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Who'll step up next to fill in the spaces he left?

Joy Behar? Let's get little Sarah on The View. They'll have her for lunch.

Lunch, hell - Whoopi and Baba will share her as an hors d'oeuvre.

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Lady "Readiness" is too scared to be among strong women! She'd cave!

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Charlie was as reasonably objective as a figure such as himself might be expected to be. Even still, the questions were pretty soft. It was obvious from her answer about the economy that she doesn't really know what goes on inside those govt agencies. I have worked inside of one of those agencies, I write software for them--and while there may very well be some inefficiencies somewhere, I haven't see it at my current agency. I don't think most Americans, including Sarah Palin do not know what goes on behind the scenes, because it is mostly invisible. Here's a hint: 100 million worth of transactions flow through the business mail entry units of the USPS every day. The FBI must evaluate the datasets on 100,000 visitors to the USA every day, arriving by plane, boat, car and on foot. I know because I have written the software that glues these activities together. It is doubtful to me that many senators or congressmen know what goes on, day in day out. Do you know how many containers arrive in US ports every day? How many cows are slaughtered? How many medicare claims are processed? How many tax returns are processed? How many open cases the FBI is investigating? How large the NIH campus is?

This woman is simply ignorant. Yes, her hubris is beyond astonishing. She didn't blink when asked to get ready to inherit the presidency? Not a single word of rationalization, such as, I never thought such a thing was possible for me, but I want to serve the people so badly, I will work so hard to master