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Obama: Sack the QB (Palin). The Old Guy On the Bench Has Got Nothing!

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I think it is absolutely right that our Presidential candidate go after their Vice Presidential candidate.

Why? Because, as the Republicans learned under Karl Rove, you go after the other side's strength not its weakness. You attack Kerry on his military record or Gore for being smart. The idea is that if you hit them where they are strong, the rest collapses too.

Sarah Palin has turned out to be the GOP's #1 asset this year. That is not only because she's a woman and an interesting character. It is because McCain is just so utterly flat and uninspiring.

He is now running on her coat tails and it's up to us to cut them off. Both Obama and Biden should go after her hard, laughingly rebuke the GOP's shock and horror that they would attack a mother, and let the media do the rest. Today's NEWSWEEK story could be an indication that the Palin master stroke could well end up destroying the GOP's chances. Hit 'em where they are strong and let the old white guy fade into oblivion. (Not that we shouldn't attack him too).

But, first, sack the QB. That's Palin.


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I agree that Gov. Palin, at least for the time being, has become the dominant player in the race. I don't know that this can hold indefinitely - in the final analysis, this election is still mostly about who will be President. Gov. Palin is sure to be less of a novelty in 30 days than she is at the moment, and very likely to have fallen back into a more normal #2 role.

In the meantime, it seems to me it is best to keep attacks against her primarily on that plane, and about primarily that issue: She is simply not qualified by any reasonable measure to be President of the United States. Some of these catty side-issues help a litle to reinforce that point, but they shouldn't be mistaken as BEING the point, and they are seriously capable of being overdone to our disadvantage among moderate, not-highly-political voters, particularly females.

McCain has clearly placed an entertaining, clever neophyte into a position to be 2nd in line to the Presidency. She could not possibly have any real conception of even what it is that she doesn't know. That is appalling. That is the REAL issue, and it rests solidly on the shoulders of Sen. McCain (NOT Gov. Palin).

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That's an unusual analysis. I wouldn't say Palin is the quarterback at all. She's just the darling of the right. McCain's speech actually seemed to give his campaign a bigger boost than Palin's

Nevertheless, I agree they should go after Palin hard and early, because she is low hanging fruit. She's a dreadful pick, and once this first flush of New Face publicity is over, and the public fully understands who she is, and how absolutely unsuitable she is to be a heartbeat from the presidency, her already soggy support will collapse, and she'll be left with only that 35% of cultural rightist true believers.

And at that point, the Obama campaign can turn it all back on McCain, and point to the stupidity of the Palin pick as evidence of unreliable, unpresidential and politicized decision-making.

I would like to know how McCain's speech gave his campaign a boost, when everyone says it was terrible.

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I don't know either. But it seems to have happened. I think McCain continues to get immense amounts of mileage out of stoking the adolescent Top Gun POW man crush he provokes in middle aged white guys.

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DanK says;

Nevertheless, I agree they should go after Palin hard and early, because she is low hanging fruit. She's a dreadful pick....

DanK, I agree, she is a dreadful pick, and the Republicans know it, that's why they have her hiding out in Cheney's bunker until its time to make a vacuous, lying speech in front of an adoring shallow audience that breaks out in a frenzy of applauds even at her punctuation marks.

Lets see if the Republicans vetted Charlie Gibson who will interview Palin first.

Palin is not the QB. What is MJ talking about? Obama should stick to hope and progress and let Biden go negative on Palin. He looks weak and insecure by going after McCain's VP pick.

...would have to agree here.

It's obvious the R's WANT TO MAKE IT ABOUT Obama v Palin in order to rile up those remaining 12 to 20 percent of Clinton devotees, and move them into McCain's column.

I think it's McPig with lipstick and cheap make-up....

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M.J knows that Palin is not the play caller. It's a football metaphor. If you can get the other team's starting QB leaving the field on a stretcher, you win. Or if a running back is carrying the team, you concuss him, but usually the QB is more important and more vulnerable.

I disagree. Palin is like a clown at a bullfight. A distraction. You can discredit her all you want, but all it creates is further polarization.

If you want to respond to sexist accusations, turn it around and say that the McCain campaign simply parades Palin around as a mere token--she's only allowed to read a script written by a former Bush speechwriter. She has to do whatever the men tell her to do.

They won't permit her to speak freely.

That's not feminism you can believe in.

When McCain is deferring to her and holding her up as his 'strength' and the sole basis for his new 'change' mantra, I think it's appropriate to go after her ................... because if she is tarnished (and I think they can do that) how does that leave McCain looking? Pretty weak and pathetic. The bigger she seems now, the smaller McCain seems when her overblown image isn't up there for him to hide behind.

There are two ways to look at this: Obama is being 'lessened' by going after a VP ... or ... MeCain is being 'lessened' because he's not worth going after. ---- And frankly the biggest, the very biggest, argument against McCain is that he was reckless and/or manipulated by his party into making a stupid, impulsive, unvetted choice for VP.

She isn't their sole focus, and they aren't going for the (comparatively) cheap shots like the plane on e-bay, but agree with Rosenberg that "sacking" her right now is appropriate and, if they succeed, the best thing that could happen to clinch the election for the Dems.

Face it -- many, many people are simmply never going to see John McCain as anything other than noble and independent. But those same people CAN see him as beyond-his-sell-by date, out of touch, and essentially weak in comparison to his barracuda running mate and the far-right of his party that **forced** him to turn away from his own choices for VP. (Remember Adm Stockwell - Stockdale? - was also a highly respected POW who, quite clearly, had gone a bit dotty with age.)

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Maybe "riding her coattails" is the wrong analogy.

He's hiding behind her skirt.

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SPOT ON! destor23 shoots from beyond the line and drains a 3 pointer.

Why? Because, as the Republicans learned under Karl Rove, you go after the other side's strength not its weakness. You attack Kerry on his military record or Gore for being smart. The idea is that if you hit them where they are strong, the rest collapses too.

Seeing such cluelessness warms the cockles of my heart. Please go after Palin. As it is, the "lipstick" remark and the standing ovation it got are just wonderful. Heh.

Meanwhile back at the previous elections, Kerry lost because he trashed the military on television, and Gore was a pretentious boob who flunked out of divinity school. His own state wouldn't vote for him.

Both Obama and Biden should go after her hard, laughingly rebuke the GOP's shock and horror that they would attack a mother, and let the media do the rest.

Oh please, like that hasn't happened already via the blogosphere and talk shows? Take your pick, she's a liar, unfit mother, didn't pull the plug on the bridge, had an affair, and on and on and on. She's taken the worst your side has to offer and is still standing tall. So far it's obvious who is the taking the low road. Keep up the good work.


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shooter says;

She's taken the worst your side has to offer and is still standing tall.

Yes, troopergate, 'incessant' lying about the Bridge To Nowhere, devious, misleading claims about the sale of the plane and eBay, taking per diems while staying home, her and hubby's association with a separatist movement, feeding at the Government trough of earmarks, budget busting Mayor who, prior to the takeover, didn't know Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac weren't taxpayer funded......and this is who you defend and support.

I'm sure you helped give us 8 years of Bush/Cheney and all they have wrought, and now you want to foist McCain/Palin on us.

I don't have much confidence in your judgement.

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airgun177,
ROTFL.

I'm glad to see you're still around with your unique brand of humor. Watch out, Dennis Miller.

Don't you need to go complain about the Women against Sarah Palin website? Someone has to do the dirty work of suppressing their message.

I hate to say this but I think her "mom" credentials need to be attacked as that is what she is really running as. And she really has made a mess of her own household. Son #1 was a known drug addict who couldn't get into college, Daughter #1 turned up pregnant at 16 and got thrown out of the house. Who knows what else will be turning up.

I definitely think there needs to be a relevant subtext to this campaign that, "If you can't take care of your own family, why would we want you taking care of ours?"

I would add that McCain is not a good family man either. He abandoned his family, twice.

These candidates are not good for their own families nor are they good for ours. This could not be more true.

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Please check out the Women Against Sarah Palin blog. I got the link from Bad Attitudes (they're doing some heavy lifting there, folks). You may have to click through a warning screen. The friends and cousins of shooter242 are mucking up access, but here is the link:
http://womenagainstsarahpalin.blogspot.com/

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Except everytime we attack Palin it casts McCain in the sympathetic role of the protective father. Best is to attack Palin in pastiche with attacks on McCain Bush & Cheney.

What Obama should have said this morning is 'Campaigns will be full of attacks, fair ones and unfair ones. We will continue to attack McCain & Palin for their insistent lies to the American people. Lies are important to this campaign because it is lies of a Republican administration that have so hurt the American people over these past eight years. They have lied about the environment, our economy, about taxes, all to disenfranchise our children and the middle class, and to put money in the pockets of special interests. And the worse lies wsere the one that drew our country into a costly and unnecessary war. We are going to stand up and and make John McCain & Sarah Palin accountable for each lie.

And look how John McCain and Sarah Palin attack us. Lipstick on a pig? This is a dangerous world, and those who insist in finding insult where there is none are singularly unfit to defend American interest at home and abroad.'

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EXACTLY!

If the media's poo-poohing it, it must be the right strategy.

I don't know. Every time Obama mentions her, it seems to give her more stature.
Let the press get her, have Biden do a little as well. Otherwise, Obama shouldn't even mention her. He's running against John McCain, not McCain/Palin.

Palin is a candidate who isn't ready to face the press. How long are they going to have to prep/brief her? She seems like an easy target for Obama, but he shouldn't even refer to the VP.

When asked about Palin, Obama should say "I'm running against John McCain. McCain is setting the policies and he's wrong on the issues and he's wrong on the direction of our country. We, as a country, can't afford 4 more years of Bush's policies. If you want a stronger and more prosperous America, then vote Obama/Biden."

Palin is a distraction. She's misdirection. Obama has to address McCain, not McCain/Palin

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I don't think you've got this one right M.J.

I agree with doublecola. All misdirection. Palin is not going to energize anyone except the true wingers. To the rest of the nation she'll look smaller and smaller as weeks go by. A real liability to McCain unless the Palin thing gets the Obama campaign off message.

The solution for us, don't take the bait.

McCain would have been dead meat without those super conservative voters, and he knew it. Now he must face the critical problem of luring the middle of the road voter, whom he also needs. As the weeks go by go by, Gov. Palin will prove a liability (a manifestly poor VP choice) as he tries to win the more moderate voter.

Thus, Palin as McCain's error should be addressed, but with caution. Palin herself must not be allowed to become the issue.

Be cool.

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Has the media finally discovered that the King, McCain, has no clothes? They seem to be tougher on him today than ever before.

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