Just how stupid does he think we are?

Dangling rhetorical questions are dangerous!

Hey Sarg ?

R you getting paid for your posts ?

Sarah Palin had her fifth child, a pre-mature baby with Down Syndrome, on April 18, 2008. What does this "pro-life" "hockey mom" do next? Two days later, she returned to work! Just what every newborn wants in a mom, especially one who is a month early, underweight, with complications. Not happy with getting out of the same room as this tender child, she decides less than five months later to get out of the state and embark on a grueling national campaign for the White House. Bye, mommy!

Keep in mind that a lot of "blue dog" women voters aren't all that comfortable with abortion, but do have a lot of interest in other so-called womens' issues. For example, Dem Gov. Bill Ritter, a Catholic, won Colorado by 17 points while being anti-abortion. My point is that to think that this is slap to all undecided women and they won't buy it is wrong thinking. That's not to say I don't think people should remind them that McCain/Palin is anti-choice, they should. Precisely because the presidential ticket has a lot more power to affect anti-choice developments than, say, a governor, and those uncomfortable with abortion are still often believers in pro-choice and "separation of church and state" as far as the law of the land is concerned. They have to be reminded that it's dangerous to choice to put such a ticket in control of the Federal government and Supreme Court nominations, but you just can't assume that McCain's choice of Palin will be taken as a slap in the face by all women, it simply won't be the case.

Ruth,

Serrin Foster said:

She can choose single parenthood and use food stamps or temporary assistance to needy families. She can choose adoption. Or, college-age women can pressure school campuses to offer child care and family housing so that they never, ever, have to choose between a pregnancy and an education.

She's obviously a pro-Life Socialist. :-)

Not to throw mud Ruth but what has NARAL ever done for child care? Zero. Argue away but that is a nonstarter. Feminist groups are loathe to made proper child care as part of their overall platform.

Does anyone else have the feeling that Gov Palin is just being used as a prop and placeholder for this weekend? It will be so simple for her to say early next week (maybe even later) that she has reconsidered and is withdrawing citing the time conflicts of tending to a newborn and presidential campaigning.

She would be praised for putting motherhood over politics and earn brownie points from the GOP for helping distract media attention away from the successful Democratic convention; and, it would be hard to officially pin McCain for cynical political calculation even though everyone knows it to be.

That said, maybe she is the real VP pick but I still don't understand why so many of you overreact to Rove's bait. It is so like Charlie Brown and Lucy with a football. You've just got to try to kick it. Hope over experience, I guess. With only a few weeks left maybe you should wait for cues from Obama before reacting.

As a female baby boomer, I am insulted beyond belief that anyone would think I would support Paylin because she is a woman. I hope every woman realizes that this is shameless -- and mindless— pandering. I suspect every Hillary-supporting voter -- even the PUMAs -- feel the same way.

After looking at both tickets, the Republicans Palin comparison.

OK. Color me confused. Is this organization called Feminists for Life or Feminists for Choice or are they interchangeable?

-AF
Andrew Sullivan Is A Fraud

Sarah Palin secretly has a Dick.........Cheney-like agenda. Just sayin'.

In one day, in one morning, in one announcement the battle has changed. Hillary was thrown to the sidelines by the Democratic party but up stood a new woman. A woman that can lead this nation without all the baggage Wash DC brings. A woman who has fought corruption, owned a business, PTA, City Council, Mayor for a small rural town and Governor for the great state of Alaska. She has executive experience, she stands up for equal rights, a beauty contestant to boot and a mother. The glass ceiling will fall this time unless the bigotry and sexual prejudice tears this nation apart. This battle is no longer about a fake leader of change and hope. This is real world. Welcome Sarah Palin, the next Vice-President of the United States.

I just watch her speak on video. She sounded angry to me. I don't know how that will play out but that's my take. I figured John McCain would choose a woman just to counter the democrats. His choice speaks volumes about conservatives, they never cared about gender or race, only power. The election has to be a head to head battle of governing philosophies now because thats all thats left to debate. Forget about experience, GWB proved it is a non issue. The democrats have to stand up for their core beliefs to win this election. Its the only way.

I just watch her speak on video. She sounded angry to me. I don't know how that will play out but that's my take. I figured John McCain would choose a woman just to counter the democrats. His choice speaks volumes about conservatives, they never cared about gender or race, only power. The conservative Republican Party is the predator party. The election has to be a head to head battle of governing philosophies now because thats all thats left to debate. Forget about experience, GWB proved it is a non issue. The democrats have to stand up for their core beliefs to win this election. Its the only way.

McSame-Palindrome '08
When going forward is the same as going backward and either way is worse.

The Clarence Thomas analogy is exactly right - it's what I thought of as soon as I saw this news. This is the most cynical, anti-feminist vice presidential choice that McCain could have made - the woman hasn't even thought about foreign policy. It basically gives women a bad name. If somehow they pull this off, I will have to be hospitalized for permanent disability due to terminal disgust.

My goodness--plenty of overblown generalities here I see.

First, Palin is not Foster. Maybe they share the same beliefs, but the article here does a disservice to the TPM name by talking only about Foster & FFL and then applying them wholesale to Palin. Anyone ask Palin if she agrees with Foster? Of disagrees with anything FFL does? Anyone?

Palin is an awful candidate for Vice President. We don't need to make up reasons which, in the end, make the left look shrill and reactionary.

Finally, I think it bears repeating that few (if any) people actually want abortions. They want choices. If expanding choices available to women makes some of them choose to continue with their pregnancies what does this say about the "pro choice" movement when all we are hearing is dismay that additional opportunities and choices end up causing fewer abortions. Isn't our goal to make abortion available but rare? C'mon--what do you really think you have to do to get there? Complain?

Regarding the whole aborton debate, it is time for people to get more responsible about their sexual behavior. We are not helpless captives of our urges. Starting from children, Americans are accepting the "victim" mentality. We are no longer held accountable for our actions and choices. We feel entitled to take the easy way out or the bailout.
Mrs.Palin is vastly more courageous to have her Down's baby than any of the bloggers here who are so hostile toward her because she does not support abortion on demand. I guess many of you would have aborted said baby.
I do applaud vigerously, however, many of the enteries that point out what a poor job is being done as far as offering childcare, help for school or training,housing,ect. I agree if we are going to ask women to have these babies we should be giving them all the support due them.
Just a side note, my position favoring restrictions on abortion comes from my experience with infertility issues. Apparently, it is next to impossible to find a healthy American baby.

I understand that abortion should not be a form of birth control but I do not believe it is the government's place to decide whether a woman should or should not have a baby. Abortions have been present throughout history. There have always been and always will be women who will become pregnant who do not wish to carry a child to term. The termination of pregnancies will occur, regardless of laws. Do we want daughters or granddaughters to someday turn back to coathangers, quills or back alley hacks to do the job?

Yippee, I'm so glad Palin felt she should have her child. That is great, it does not mean that others who make a different choice are bad. I'll mind my own back yard, thank you.

Sorry to Eadkins, I don't mean to be insensitive to your issues. There are thousands of babies who need good homes, but our government thinks unfit parents should be given repeated opportunities to keep their children. We should lobby for the rights of the living children who are at the mercy of sorry parents who view them as property and a meal ticket. Some states have three strikes laws regarding criminals, if this rule applied to unfit parents no couple would ever have to long for a child.

The glass ceiling will fall this time unless the bigotry and sexual prejudice tears this nation apart. This battle is no longer about a fake leader of change and hope. This is real world. Welcome Sarah Palin, the next Vice-President of the United States.

Bright as Alaska in December sarg is.

Senator Clinton and Governor Palin are proof that women can and do diverge on important issues.

The 'women's vote' is a myth!

Suffragettes were opposed by many women who were what was known as 'anti.'

They believed women were incapable of selecting or becoming political leaders, even as they themselves took leadership roles against votes for women!

The most influential 'anti' lived in the White House. First Lady Edith Wilson was a wealthy Washington widow who married President Wilson in 1915, six months after the death of his pro-suffrage wife Ellen.

She endeared herself to her future husband, who had consistently opposed votes for women, when she declared at their first meeeting that she didn't even know who the candidates were in the 1912 election, and felt that women had no business whatsoever in politics.

Her precise role in the jailing and torture of Alice Paul and hundreds of suffragettes will never be known for certain, but she was outraged that they picketed her husband's White House.

Most people are totally in the dark about HOW the suffragettes won, and what life was REALLY like before they did.

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Sarah Palin is Pentecostal. This has significance in terms of how Evangelicals relate to feminism. For many in the Evangelical movement female subservience is dogma and is a source of essential theological difference with Pentecostalism. Plain keeps women's issues on the fornt burner in this election. Hooray!

I know its very difficult for left-leaning liberals to understand, but it IS possible, and a good argument can be made that the pro-choice position is in fact anti-feminist at its core, as are other "progressive" ideas such as gay-marriage (as marriage is a compact that originated fundamentally to "protect" women).

I won't try to make the case here, but, having been a pro-choice liberal myself some years back, I understand the deep challenge this presents to "the other side". In fact, I believe it is an impossible bridge to cross on an intellectual level or by any appeal to reason. The so-called pro-life mindset is part and parcel of a world-view that seeks to sanctify life with holiness , to imbue our existence with purpose and meaning beyond the obviously apparent, and it does so within a Judeo-Christian framework that goes back thousands of years -- and which has, in fact, served the western world quite well.

Having said all this, it is a well-known epidemiological fact that outlawing abortion causes great harm to a society, and I'm quite sure that the future President and Madame Vice-President know this well. They seek to foster the best for America, not to harm it. They certainly do not want to see the country become a theocracy.

Feminists and other liberals should support a party that has at its top level two people with honor and integrity comfortable in the knowledge that, while they may not resist the increasing moral sanction associated with it, they will not move to outlaw abortion itself.

OldSarg: "In one day, in one morning, in one announcement the battle has changed. Hillary was thrown to the sidelines by the Democratic party but up stood a new woman. A woman that can lead this nation without all the baggage Wash DC brings."

Palin's carrying her own share of baggage.

"A woman who has fought corruption,..."

Selectively. She's also introduced corruption when it served her interests.

"...owned a business, PTA, City Council, Mayor for a small rural town and Governor for the great state of Alaska."

My 22 year old field organizer has organized a region comprised of 3 counties, including a city of 16,000 people...I guess that makes him more qualified than Palin for the Vice Presidency!

"...She has executive experience,..."

Sounds to me like her executive experience consists mostly of alienating or harassing people--not a very good recommendation for high office.

"...she stands up for equal rights,..."

I've not heard anything specific to back that claim.

"...a beauty contestant to boot and a mother..."

Being a beauty contestant is so relevant to high office. After all, she will be on T.V. occasionally.

"...The glass ceiling will fall this time unless the bigotry and sexual prejudice tears this nation apart. This battle is no longer about a fake leader of change and hope. This is real world. Welcome Sarah Palin, the next Vice-President of the United States."

It doesn't advance womens' issues and rights one bit...it makes a cartoon of them.

You, Old Sarg can't write a sentence.
You wrote:
"Your a joke!"

It's "you're" (a contraction of "you are.")

"Your" is the possessive of "you."

Example:

OldSarg, you're so wrong about almost everything.