Shocker! Bill Kristol Urges Lieberman as Mc's VP (Pssst, He'll Bomb Iran)
You have to marvel at just how bad Bill Kristol is. I don't mean because he's a conservative. So are David Brooks and George Will, two popular conservative columnists who are smart.
But Kristol is ridiculous. He is actually the only New York Times columnist who simply pastes his party's talking points into his space on the op-ed page. The Times pays his for this?
Anyway, today he endorses Joe Lieberman for VP. He tells Republicans not to worry about Joe's rather traditional Democratic positions on most things they care about. They should pick Lieberman anyway because....they should.
It just goes to show what I've always said about the neocons. They are neither Republicans nor Democrats. They are simply Mideast hawks. Kristol is no more "pro-life" than I am. It's all a game.
I don't think the GOP will choose Lieberman although I hope they do. Imagine a Biden-Lieberman debate!
But read Kristol. You have to love the whole tears for Hillary shtick. If this is the best these neo-nuts can do, they are really finished.
If this is the best these neo-nuts can do, they are really finished.
Good one, MJ. Finished! Priceless!
I would expect a person of your political sophistication to understand that this is exactly how Republicans win elections. They put out birght-red meat like this to stir the emotions of those who are unable to discern the difference between fact and fantasy. (They call these people their "base.")
Then they win by carrying the entire South, who will never forgive Democrats for allowing blacks to become citizens.
Ridiculousness is the Republican (and by extension the Neocons') stock in trade. They are the best practitioners of the Big Lie since the 1930s. They win by being defiantly ridiculous.
Since Reagan, Dems can win only by adopting Republican policies. Fortunately, Sen. Obama is quite comfortable in this role and thus has a chance to challenge. I still think he is toast in Nov -- and the poll trends agree with me -- because he cannot out-Republican or out-Neocon John McCain, who is willing to sell his very last vestige of honor. But as I keep repeating, given the choice between a phony Republican and a real one, the American electorate will usually pick the genuine article. But if Sen. McCain keeps stepping on his own pene, the voters may finally recognize his utter inadequacy and Sen. Obama may get the opportunity to install his own, more traditionally conservative government.
August 25, 2008 8:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
How is the South and the conservative base going to be excited by Lieberman? He's a pro-choice Jew from Connecticut.
Kristol is a hack.
August 25, 2008 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Kristol only aspires to the role of hack.
August 25, 2008 11:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's OK to dabble in the goofiness that is Kristol if you buy the actual paper product, but I read the Times online. Therefore I resist the urge to click, not wanting the web statistics to show any uptick in traffic for Kristol. The Times doesn't care if Kristol makes sense; it only cares if he sells papers. If there is no evidence of people reading him, Kristol will be gone soon.
But if he stirs the pot, stimulates lots of letters to the editor, expect him to hang around like the smell in a refrigerator in need of clearing out.
August 25, 2008 9:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. I haven't read a single kristol column as a sort of protest.
I'll just take MJ's word for it.
August 25, 2008 9:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
They post comments to all the editorials and op-eds now, funny stuff. I chime in just to ridicule.
August 25, 2008 11:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
I know it's bad luck to wish for a foe, but please, please, please let it be Lieberman. Joe Biden will make mints meat out of him!
August 25, 2008 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Mincemeat, not mints meat!
The meat is minced, see. Pulverized.
But, you're right. If McCain picks Lieberman, he hands us the election, might as well concede on the same night.
August 25, 2008 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
Not to put too fine a point on it, but mincemeat doesn't necessarily contain any meat. It is usually a concoction of minced apples, raisins, currants, and citron used to fill pies.
Just sayin'
August 25, 2008 11:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ha Ha Ha Ha...destor23 and Bwakfat, you guys crack me up! Okay, I got the meat of my story wrong. I'm just saying, from one Joe to another, Biden is make Lieberman eat a ham sandwich and like it!
August 25, 2008 4:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's reached the point where I no longer read Kristol, for exactly the reason that you mention. These Neocons have highjacked the Republican Party, and really think people are stupid enough not to notice.
Kinda funny, however, to see that Kristol has now come out and said that Republicans should go ahead and nominate Lieberman "anyway".
I'd suggest that everyone conduct a thought experiment to illustrate exactly what Rosenberg is talking about. What would Kristol and the rest of that Neocon crew think if the Republicans nominated someone who towed the line across the board EXCEPT on Middle East issues?
You know what the answer would be. The Neocons would reject pleas that they suck it up and vote for such a candidate. Yet they feel called upon to ask just such a thing when the shoe is on the other foot.
Pretty revealing, if you ask me.
August 25, 2008 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed, Kristol is just ridiculous. His column seemed like it was in response to Brooks' earlier one about Biden. Although I don't agree with Brooks a lot of the time, that particular column was very good in pointing out Biden's strengths. Kristol, on the other hand, is, exactly as you've said, a figurehead that spouts out the rhetoric of the hawks, never really even attempting to make intelligent points. I don't know why the Times deals with it.
August 25, 2008 4:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Kristol wants to see the Joes debating over which of them is the real Zionist.
August 25, 2008 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bingo!
August 26, 2008 5:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Bill Kristol and Joe Lieberman, the Laurel and Hardy of foreign affairs.
August 25, 2008 6:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
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August 25, 2008 7:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
skippermutt,
advertise on conservative talk radio, their audience is fertile ground.
August 25, 2008 8:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Romney - 12 house ticket
Pawlenty - a dish made from boiled cornmeal which Biden will eat for breakfast
Kristol gets it - Never fear Mentum's near
August 25, 2008 8:32 PM | Reply | Permalink