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Mark Penn, Mary Matalin and the Return (Did It Ever Leave) of Racism

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Colbert King has an excellent piece on Mark Penn in today's Washington Post.

He points out what should be obvious: that Mark Penn is what we, in the old days, would have simply called a racist but who is now excused as simply a guy who plays the game.

Nowadays we are not allowed to call people racists. It's as if racism died when LBJ passed Voting Rights. So we can't call Penn a racist for urging the Clinton campaign to paint Obama as foreign. We can't call Mary Matalin a racist for publishing a book full of racist libels. And we can't, God forbid, say that the McCain campaign's ads -- and its ads are the campaign -- are racist ("the uppity Negro who doesn't know his place").

Imagine if in 2000, the Republicans ran ads suggesting that Joe Lieberman would make a good accountant but not a commander-in-chief. Or played off the foreignness of a Second Lady named Hadassah? Or said that he's fine but she's a little pushy? Can you imagine the uproar?

But somehow it's different with African Americans. It always has been.

The question for the next 90 days is this. What do we do about it? The elephant is in the room big time (elephant! nice). Are we just going to ignore it? After all, the Obama campaign knows that nothing stirs up racists even more than talking about racism! What to do?


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I'm not sure how they'll tackle it. As you say, it's now impolite to call racists racists. The racist gets to take umbrage and the McCain campaign will respond to such observations by saying, in effect, "That uppity negro is tellling you that any criticism of him is racism," and it'll work without anybody in the media even taking note of the fact that the racism will be evident in the McCain camp's repsonse.

Colbert King always has excellent pieces.

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Imagine if in 2000, the Republicans ran ads suggesting that Joe Lieberman would make a good accountant but not a commander-in-chief
I don't think that Republicans suggest that Obama would make a good accountant. They are so racists that they think that he would make a bad accountant M.J. I'm not sure what can be done. This country is still a racist country. Bill Clinton is a racist. Hillary Clinton is a racist. A half of Democratic voters who didn't vote for Obama are racists. All republicans are racists. The best you can do is to tell the truth about this terrible country.

And exactly why are we concerned about being polite? 'A racist is as a racist does!'

I believe it's dangerous and wrong to attempt to be PC with bigots. Yell it out, loud and clear. If we don't, then we are just allowing them to continue their negative actions.

Every single time - identify their racist actions for exactly what they are - but don't whisper, say it loud and clear. Stand up and speak out!

Polite? I think Ms. Manners would agree that racism doesn't deserve a tip of the hat or should be acknowledged as proper decorum.

Be 'impolite' - point your finger and show 'em the exit. And be sure the door hits 'em in the behind as you slam it shut!

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Ishmael Reed has a new book out:
"Mixing It Up: Taking On the Media Bullies and Other Reflections"

I think his motivation for putting this collection of essays out was the Imus affair, but he does a pretty good job of reviewing other examples of racism in the media that passes without comment.

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Imagine if in 2008, democrats and liberals had stopped attacking other dems and liberals and had actually read something more than bad headlines which weren't true and could have been proven untrue if dems and libs had read, say, the article, from which the bad reporter had culled his quotes while omitting the key quote - (19.03.07) from Mark Penn, "we are never going to say anything about his background".

Unfortunately, in 2008, dems and libs, unacustomed and for the most part ignorant of the truth, still insisted on pushing incorrect memes, lies and stories about other dems, working themselves into frenzies and knee jerk reactionary columns because it was so much easier that way than to tell the whole story - such was the tunnel vision, the back biting, the petty animosity so much more important than the election which they lost, paving the way for the McCain administration to carry on the disastrous Bush policies.

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Jerome Corsi has joined forces with Floyd Brown, he of the Willy Horton Ad.

I wonder if they'll promote strong family values.

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What to do? Egads, MJ, surely we know that no one ever won a campaign by defending himself with every breath. Campaigns are won by making the opposition defend themselves. It isn't like McCain has no weaknesses. If the Obama campaign, and more so, if the Democratic Party would stand up and speak out about McCain, his senility, his stupidity, his black and white view of the world, his unstable temper, his desire to settle all issues like they did in old western movies, his lack of morals, his love affair with Bush, and on and on, the problem would be solved.

I don't begrudge Obama his vacation, but he damn well better come back fired up to seriously campaign, and not just make pretty speeches. President Gore should be able to explain the flaw in that strategy.

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I don't understand why we've been such wimps about using all the "ist" words when they apply. When you consider in particular the VP's office and its combination of authoritarian doctrine, militarism, corporatism and racism thrown in for good measure, "fascist" is an even better word for the types we're fighting. I just wish all the postpartisan folks would comes to grips with that.

"So you're saying he's an uppity negro?"

I think that the best response to ANYONE & EVERYONE who says anything with a hint, a smidgen, even a whisp of racism in it.
Ask the question, keep asking, and hammer it home to get the person to define what it is they are saying. Maybe they have an actual response, but most likely they don't.

And if their second or third response still smacks of racism, ask it again and watch them squirm!!
If they start to attack your character (attacking the messenger) then you just bring the conversation right back to them: "So now you're saying that I'm uppity?"

What's great about phrasing accusations in the form of questions is that this is the tried and true Socratic "didactic" method of inquiry and teaching favored by..... OBAMA... constitutional scholar and instructor!
.... works for me.

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The problem with your plan is that everything has a hint, a smidgen or a whisp of racism in it.

I don't think spinning their wheels in that endless mud puddle is going to win them the election. Voters who really don't want to leave it, who love to wallow around in it, aren't going to leave it no matter what is said in response. They look for the reponse only in order to pick it apart and confirm their own preconceived ideas.

The Obama campaign needs to come out with an all out partisan strategy, based on (other) issues voters are concerned with, and go on offense to win the rest of them over.

I found the identity aspects of the Dem primary a real turn off because at this point in my life, I am just plain sick and tired of hearing about it. I'm certain a lot general election voters will find it a turn off as well. The Obama campaign should attempt to participate in it as little as possible.

Although, I doubt the press will go along--the press loves to wallow in it. The public will hate them, too.

We'll see who they decide to take it out on.

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In 2004 I wondered why Kerry didn't respond and arrived at the theory that while most of the swift-boating consisted of lies which could have been disproved, there was something in there which was true .A poison pill. And had he mounted a full court press on the false items he'd either have had to admit the true charge or defend his reason for omitting it.

As this implies I don't accept the consultants' view that by refuting a charge you actually give it credibility.

Given that , and assuming as I do that Obama doesn't have the poison pill problem, I think
he should definitely do the full court press. Take a half hour of nationwide TV , and systematically deal with the attacks in e.g. Corsi's book.

In short I'm in the camp of those who believe that rather than attack McCain , Obama should just mount a convincing defense . And if in the process that defense raises the question of why
McCain has tolerated this slander, that's all to the good.

Guess I'll hold my nose and read Corsi's drivel.
I'll report here unless someone-I hope- beats me to it.

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Responding in the way you suggest just widens the influence of the lies. The right way is counterattack, not point by point defense.

Blue Dog democrats may be more Republican than once thought.

Obama can win without Hillary & her freedom fighters but Sen Obama is also a realist; and because the primaries were so close, he had to capitulate to hers and Bill Clinton’s demands by rolling out the “welcome mat” to her delegates - to mostly avoid all that brown stuff flying up and hitting the proverbial fan. Nonetheless, Barack Obambi caved in.... so one more attempt at a power grab by The Clintons before they really are irrelevant. IMHO, I thought Hillary was actually rather admirable in the first couple of debates but had since gone down hill after New Hampshire.

I will NOT vote for Obama if she is selected as Vice President Nominee. Like may be some of those PUMA Hussein screamers, I will sit out the November election. Both parties have sold out (literally in some cases) to the security of America.

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The strategy to me is simple:

Obama and surrogates need to defend vigorously, calmly and effectively against the smears. This is a good example of Obama doing so.

Then, they need to keep hammering on two themes: 1) McCain has been an American hero and dedicated public servant who has served his country for over forty years, but is too out of touch with the modern world (e.g., his Czechoslovakia comments, Iraq bordering Afghanistan, etc.) to effectively address the needs of a radically changed world, and 2) McCain is running for Bush's third term, and is in fact inclined to double down on Bush's most reckless and short-sighted policies. Keep showing McCain's awkward hug of Bush. Ask people if they feel better off than they did four or eight years ago, and then if they want more of the same.

I think that'll do it.

it's impolite to call people racists? what planet have you been living on, MJ?

as a Hillary supporter, I've been called a racist on roughly 75% of the message boards on this very site. all through the primary campaign, anyone who dared question anything about Barack or Michelle Obama was instantly branded as a racist.

it's not only not impolite, it seems to be de rigeur to use this term whenever someone inconveniently dares to voice a concern about Obama.

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Yet again? Any valid concern or criticism of Obama is dismissed as racist.

Spending a significant portion of his childhood in Indonesia does indeed expose Obama to foreigh influence and deprive him of a significant period of exposure to American cultural mores.

When the Constitution was written that was why they wanted the President born in America -- he would -- perforce of the defects of the means of travel -- spent his formative years in the United States.

Obama stepfather Obama hints took part in atrocities committed by an Indonesian army and was harmed by doing so.


That said, given the increasing interrelatedness of the world Obama's history is probably one of the few good things about him.

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