Denver: A "Biography" Convention Would Be a Disaster
I don't like the polls. That is because I, unlike lots of Democrats, don't simply ignore the bad ones and latch on to the good ones. I'm cursed. I read them all and I don't like what I see.
I've already said that I believe that the entire campaign against Obama will be based on race. That is all the Republicans have and, assuming they know history, are safe to believe that white fear of African-Americans will win it for them.
I think there is a 50% chance Obama will win, but no more than that. All the young folks around these part who think that America is post-racial need to get out more -- out of Manhattan, Ann Arbor or Cambridge.
It's time to shift attention away from Obama and to McCain and the Republican record. The voters who are attracted to Obama already like him. The ones who are still on the fence will not cross over to him until they realize just how awful the alternative is.
We can start at the convention. The last thing we need is a celebration of Obama. Kerry tried that with his endless trumpeting of his military credentials and it bombed. Yes, Obama has a great story. It should be told. But it should not be the centerpiece of the convention.
The centerpiece should be the same one we'd use if, say, or nominee was Mark Warner or Chris Dodd or Hillary Clinton or Evan Bayh, or whoever. Not the personal story but the story of the horrors inflicted on America by the Republicans and John McCain's determination to perpetuate them.
A biography convention would be a disaster. The disaster this convention needs to focus on is the years since 2000. If the election is about McCain, we win. Obama is a great messenger but only if the message is about the Republicans.















I think you're right, and I didn't even have to leave Cambridge, Mass. to realize it.
August 4, 2008 1:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm getting worried too. Today McCain is going around just lying about Obama's energy plans. He says Obama is anti-nuclear (he isn't) that he's against more offshore drilling (he isn't, sadly) that he thinks people can just properly inflate their tires and gas prices will fall (have to admit, I didn't see that attack coming) and this is... all seemingly working.
Whenever MJ posts like this somebody shows up to tell him to calm down, that the sky isn't falling, that our guy is still leading in the national polls. All of that's true.
But there is something wrong -- somehow, even though McCain is, by most measures, losing, the peception is that its Obama who hasn't "sealed the deal." It doesn't make sense. If Obama hasn't sealed the deal then McCain really hasn't. But that's the perception and it lingers.
Our side really needs to start attacking McCain. If Obama can't or won't do it himself, then he needs some surrogates who will do it for him.
August 4, 2008 2:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
I guess that's me this time. Obama's beating McCain. Badly. So badly that nothing short of a complete candidate/campaign meltdown will stop Obama from getting elected.
I get that feeling as well. You know what though? Everyone got that feeling about Obama during the primary.
If the only thing Obama has to worry about is being perceived as "sealing the deal," that's a pretty good position to be in. Look at McCain. He has to overcome a lot more than perception to win in November.
Agreed. It's one thing to run a "post-partisan" campaign. It's a completely different thing to pass up opportunities to show the public how awful a leader your opponent would be. I hope Obama learns the difference.
August 4, 2008 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
How can post-partisanship be a viable philosophy when the candidate in question now leads one of the two major US political parties? Fallacious sophistry.
August 4, 2008 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's also completely absurd to be postpartisan when the opposing party is run by ruthless, ideologically driven movement conservatives who've been steamrolling the country with a far right agenda for the past 30 years. It is not hyperbole to describe some of them as fascists and you don't meet that sort with a postpartisan state of mind.
August 4, 2008 9:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
wow! just: wow. and mj thought the post-racial folks needed to get out more. i want what you're smoking.
August 5, 2008 12:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Again, I don't know if Obama thinks he is saving his best for the Convention and the fall but I really hope he and the campaign people are figuring out when and how they are going to take the gloves off in a way that doesn't make many people forget what they like about Obama in the first place.
A question on my mind, though, is this: why, all of a sudden, are some people saying that Obama's race is going to get him defeated?
I mean, it's not like he wasn't in the news much before all the earlier polls showing him doing better versus McCain. Haven't the same Americans who were polled two months ago, and gave him a decided edge then, known what color his skin was all along? So why is it Obama's skin color is all of a sudden now thought to account for his recent slackening in the polls, as opposed to, say, the continued free pass McCain is receiving from both the media and the Obama campaign on McCain's supposed strength, his character, as well as his gold-medal and world record-shattering performance in the Flip Flop event?
After getting beaten up during the primary season, Bill Clinton was re-introduced to the voters at the convention as The Man From Hope. He had a compelling life story and it was told succinctly and well. Obama's campaign can't afford to forget about using the convention to positively define their candidate. If voters do not see a compelling positive definition of Obama at the Convention then the Obama campaign is going to have a hard time limiting the damage the McCain campaign's attacks on him are going to continue to do.
It isn't either/or but has to be both/and, effectively positive at the Convention in particular, and much harder-hitting on attack, during but also before as well as after the Convention, preferably with a bit of humor and wit but not too much of the latter.
If memory serves, Bill Clinton in '92, in addition to conveying a positive message of hope, was quite effective in criticizing, often by implication only but still clearly enough, Bush's ineffective handling of the economy and being out of touch with the voters (he didn't know about those scanners in supermarket checkout lines).
The Obama campaign should not have great difficulty getting traction against McCain on his issue stances, which are now a virtual echo of Bush's policies and simply lack any credibility as possible solutions to any of our pressing problems, and his supposed strength, his character.
What does it say about a presidential candidate's character when, in the interests of his political ambitions, he jettisons virtually everything about his record as a politician that gave him any claim to being a politician of good character?
With all these books he's written for kids and speeches he's made on doing the right thing when it's tough, being true to your beliefs, having the courage of your convictions, etc., etc., is he now the World's Biggest Hypocrite or what?
One can think John McCain is a remarkable person to be where he is now given what he has been through in his life while also seeing his campaign as just the latest version of the sad, depressing, been there, done that tale of The Craven Politician, bailing inconvenient past actions and professed principles faster than a guy in a rowboat with a couple of dozen golf-ball sized holes in its bottom.
August 4, 2008 2:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama has always only had a 50-50 chance. Just because MJ is waking up to the black tax in America is no reason for most of us to all of a sudden become up in arms.
If you recall at the beginning of this race, HRC had the majority of the black voter for just this reason, black Americans did not even believe Obama had a chance.
IA changed that!
America will vote for Obama...he should win by a landslide based on his credentials, policy platforms and superior leadership...howEVER becasue of the impact of race in America
it is highly likely he will win by 51 or 52%.
A WIN is a WIN.
Now calm down MJ..take deep breaths and as a Jewish American you should know about the depth of discrimination based on race and religion in America.
More importantly, you need to have faith based on the tremendous strides and accomplishments both by Jews and Blacks in this country in spite of those tremendous opportunities and obstacles to achievement.
So HOLD your HORSES!!
Obama is winning and he has the ground game and long term strategy to prevail.
Just stop with all the naysaying, doubting thomas crap.
Focus on Winning.
ReMEMber...obstacles are what you see when you take your eyes off the goal.
Keep your eyes on the Prize ...MJ
Even RFK said ...that in 40 years we would have a Negro President.
He said that back in 68!!!
So have faith.
August 4, 2008 2:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Vicissitudes: I don't think anyone here is expressing gloom and doom, it's all over, Obama is going to lose, etc. Just concern with recent trends.
You write: "So have faith."
At the moment I would prefer to have more hope than more faith. Hope is more closely tied to what is observable.
August 4, 2008 3:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can agree.
Have hope and faith!
This is the second post where MJ is pondering why Obama is not up by more points in the poll, he is wringing his hands and expressing more doubts in each post.
Attack ads do work, especially negative ones and obama is going to take a hit...but folks are sick and tired of Bushes' policies.
They have to get to know Obama and you are right about the personal narrative Obama has to keep telling them how his values are the same as theirs and we will be able to win this election.
Our hope should focus on Obama's ground game, he has opened 11 offices in MN, 20 offices in VA and just a slew of offices all over this nation he is going to be competitive in races that Democrats have long given up.
Obama also is leading McCain by a huge margin with Hispanics. That will stand him in good steed in CO, NM, VA, NC, GA, MN and MS. Hispanics dominant the textile, meatpacking and agriculture industries today.
The only issue is whether they will come out to the polls and that is why Obama's ground game has the possibility to create a landslide..as long as they do not steal the votes and create havoc at the polls.
We may even win TX and FL!!
August 4, 2008 3:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
mj's point i think is that if folks are as 'tired' as you imagine them to be, it would be reflected in the polling. i think mj's point is that you only imagine it to be true when you choose to ignore the polling that says otherwise. you seem to think that 'obama is winning' but that only shows that your imagination seems to be blocking out the polling that says otherwise.
i think the 'people need to get out more...' line is spot on. (and possibly connected to the whole 'big sort' discussion as well...)
August 5, 2008 12:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
No, I pay attention to the state polling which shows Obama is winning.
Only the national polls are tracking Obama at a loss.
He is up in the polls in MI,OH, PA and MN.
We do not elect a President nationally but state by state.
So, that is why I have hope and faith and not imagination to support that Obama is winning.
August 5, 2008 4:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
V,
You wrote:
"Obama is winning and he has the ground game and long term strategy to prevail."
Yes, at the moment he is insignificantly leading in some of the polls. But I don't see any evidence at all that he has either a ground game or long term strategy to prevail. What I observe is lots of talk about getting nonvoters to vote (one of the most difficult things to do in American politics anytime or anywhere) and a strategy that petered out about June 1. And saud petered out strategy had/has little to do with beating the Republicans this fall which explains Obama's flaccid response to the Republican attacks the past couple of weeks.
August 5, 2008 5:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain has made the campaign about race of late, and, in contrast to the primaries, it's a discussion that Obama, like the protagonist in Ralph Ellison's Invisible Man, cannot win under any circumstances.
Most people would rather forget about the bitter fruits of American racism - much like the Iraq war - than subject our history to critical scrutiny. If McCain can make the campaign about race, regardless of who plays the so-called "cards", his chances increase significantly.
More than just the convention, MJ's observations should be applied to the campaign in general. Obama needs to tar and feather McCain as a pro-oil, pro-rich, out of touch warmonger whose presidency would be a danger to the US and the world.
Like many observers of this campaign, I'm wondering when Axelrod & co. will get down to the fundamental contrasts between Democrats and Republicans that should be driving this campaign. Will it be with the VP selection, the convention, after the convention, etc.? If Obama seriously believes the tripe about post-partisanship and bringing people together by transcending political conflict, we're done for.
As long as McCain is able to play the "maverick" to Obama's "celebrity," Democrats can't take advantage of the sorry estimation in which US voters hold the Republican party. Unfortunately for us, Obama's campaign has offered nothing to counteract McCain's rebranding of the candidates.
August 4, 2008 3:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think Obama is blowing it, which could be tragic.
One way the Republican tactics of sliming a candidate work is the Democrats have for some reason a real problem in attacking back. They don`t think it looks "presidential" (dukakis, gore, kerry). I see Obama not using the obvious ammo against McCain: whose economic advisor engineered our casino of a financial system, who sings "bomb, bomb, bomb Iran", who thinks it is cute that he is totally ignorant of economics, etc ad nauseum.
The problem with not attacking back is that it sends a message: I will not stand up for YOU American voter, because I cannot even stand up for myself.
I think that the message folks are getting from Obama on the economy is, I am too weak to challenge economic business as usual in this country.
This trashes the best reason folks have for voting for Obama.
August 4, 2008 4:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
but people never had that reason to vote for obama. that was the model edwards ran on. the dems chose obama and his 'uniter, not a divider' c. g.w. bush 2000) instead.
as rumsfeld could explain: you can't run a campaign for president with the democratic candidate you should have had, you have to run the campaign with the candidate you've got.
August 5, 2008 1:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
It has been clear every since it began to look like Obama would be our nominee that he would have to face your typical Republican racist attack. We also know it would be subtle. We also know that it would work, at least to the extent of moving some voters away from Obama. If I knew this 6 months ago, I am sure the Obama campaign did too. Now it will be a real fight. McCain cannot keep this up the whole campaign and for now all Obama's people need to do is weather the storm.
No way this will be a biography convention. The issues are just too powerful. That is one of Obama's messages -- his campaign is not about him, it is about reforming this nation.
August 4, 2008 4:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
"We also know it would be subtle. We also know that it would work, at least to the extent of moving some voters away from Obama."
I think a big part of the reason it works is that the campaign can't itself or the media (including sympathetic liberal leaning media) out from under it quick enough. Arguably, to an extent, this worked to his advantage during the Democratic primary. It won't work in the general election.
I'm not obsessing over the polls, but during the primary a lot of attention was paid to certain particular swing states--OH, PA, INV, WV-- in part because it allowed liberals to fixate on whether or not "working class" voters in the rust belt would be willing to vote for a black candidate.
I'm still wondering about some possible swing states that Hillary won that no one paid much attention to because they were held on Super Tuesday. States without the same preponderance of relentlessly stereotyped knuckle dragging "working class" voters, states like New Jersey.
While everyone focused on Britney and Paris, McCain was constantly talking up 2 points: how Obama is "going to raise your taxes," and how Obama is going to make decisions that "make the economy less productive." This is the usual Republican line and for some reason, it always works.
I think the Democrats need to steer this whole campaign back to where it was before the whole Hillary-Obama blood feud.
August 4, 2008 5:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is difficult not to play the "I told you so game" but there are probably many like me who supported "that woman" who felt that she was the stronger politician, the better candidate, the crossover enabler, and the one who had the strongest positions to take on McCain, but you and the Move-On-ers and the super delegates including the political wiz Donna Brazile opted for Obama. Suffer the consequences. You did it for principles and the liberal satisfaction of having the first non-white President.
I still prefer Hillary, but I happen to think Obama can and will win, all ye of little faith. He is a good speaker, enormously brighter and more intelligent than McCain and will be a good campaigner. He needs the right VP and all of you should encourage him to with Hill, if she'll have it, rather than Ms. Sebelius, or Richardson or the Gov. of Va. or some other neophyte. One neophyte + one neophyte equals a losing election.
PRMCO
August 4, 2008 5:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
PRMCO,
Curious, but when you say you still prefer H, are you saying that you will or will not vote for Obama?
Tho I like Obama a lot, I guess I was pulling for Hillary - I was glad to finally see a Dem who would fight, campaign tough, get dirty, and basically do anything she had to to win the primary. I am not at all bitter though. We know now that HRC grossly miscalculated by assuming she'd win it - which is a defect I see in the Obama camp
Also, what do you mean when you say "suffer the consequences" of having Obama the candidate, but then also you say you think Obama "can and will win"?
Thanks, hope you write back
August 4, 2008 8:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Of course I'll vote for Obama, as will most of Hillary's backers. He's growing on me even though some of his positions are in fact changing and make less sense than Hillary's idea to suspend gas taxes over the summer, a position which McCain endorsed.
"Suffer the consequences?" Yes, doubt, concern and anxiety are the consequences as articulated by MJ Rosenberg. I believe Obama will win. The polls today mean nothing. The two presumptive nominees aren't campaigning against each other. They're just trying to stay in the news and Obama is winning that battle. The stock market is crashing, the economy sputtering, gasoline prices are crushing, house prices are collapsing, and bread and circuses ar about to begin in Beijing. The candidates haven't been nominated, the vice presidential mates haven't been picked. Only hard core political junkies or bloggers who need something to write about are worried about the polls.
You wanted me to write back. Why? This is all you get.
PRMCO
August 4, 2008 10:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
because I wanted to know of you thought you and Hillary supporters would vote for Obama
Re: Suffering the Consequences
Yes, that's me. I feel certain that Hillary, polarizing and all, would've taken Ohio, Arkansas certainly, and maybe a few others and won a bitter, bare-knuckled 49-48% fight against McCain.
But instead I am worrying that Obama would rather lose honorably than win. But I understand that if he continues to run an honorable campaign, refusing to debase himself, the potential good that can follow is enormous
August 5, 2008 1:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
except staying in the news isn't really the battle you want to be winning unless you are also controlling and driving the battle over the what and why for. especially in this last week we saw mccain in the driver seat (doing donuts in the gutter with his straight talk express) with the msm pushing his hit pieces for him. made obama the topic of conversation to be sure. but not in any way that benefits obama.
August 5, 2008 1:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
I actually think Hillary has higher negatives than Obama on a bad day. Support for Obama is based on the fact that he's a better candidate.
It's worrisome that McCain's polls are doing as well as they are, but even Bush has 30%. Throw in the 10-20% that don't want tax increases, and there you go. Obama's got his work cut out for him.
The polls are going to bounce around for the rest of the summer. I want to see what happens 1) when they both have their VP's, and 2) after the debates.
I'm not worried.
August 4, 2008 5:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think Obama needs to use some self-effacing humor now and then.
August 4, 2008 6:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is ALL Bill Clinton's doing.
He may not be racist but he certainly had no problem racemongering to win.
The Clintons are the ones who need to come out and defend Obama for the sake of the party.
Instead Bill is sulking and pouting because he loss the race due to his own very blatant racemongering.
Neither Clinton can point to any statements by Barack that called him a racist.
However his actions were clear racemongering just like McCain's ad's are and David Gergen explained that very clearly on ABC This Week with Stepinfetchitnoupolous.
August 4, 2008 6:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
sounds like hysterics.
August 5, 2008 1:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sounds like Bill Clinton has a chip on his shoulders and just because he is a sore loser and paranoid..doesn't mean those watching him make snide commentary are hysterical.
August 5, 2008 4:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I quite agree MJ - at least the part that this convention should be about George W. Bush and his successor
August 4, 2008 7:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well well MJ
Nate, 538...
Is Obama Underachieving?
In an article in today's Los Angeles Times, I examine the widespread notion that Barack Obama has been 'underachieving', especially relative to the performance of a Generic Democrat.
...Obama has heretofore been unable to brand John McCain as a Generic Republican, as McCain is regarded by much of the electorate as a moderate.
Amen to that!
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/08/is-obama-underachieving.html
August 4, 2008 7:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've been wondering aloud about these very things for a while now. It concerns me that with all the gaffes, lies and "misstatements" (not to mention McFudd's general confusion)that Obama isn't very far ahead. If he really is, from one poll to another, I can't really tell. History has shown us that attack ads work. I'm beginning to feel that if Obama (or a well placed 527) doesn't get muddy, he's not going to fare well in November. That would be a horror show for this country.
August 4, 2008 8:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
An entire column without Jew-bashing?
M.J., are you feeling well?
August 4, 2008 8:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
what difference does it make? mj couldn't say 'good morning' without you aipac nuts coming 'round to troll him and call him a jew-hater.
case in point. ^
August 5, 2008 1:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Word.
Thanks for sending the troll back under the bridge.
August 5, 2008 2:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
I just think what's going on, thanks to the slime machine, is that we while we wanted to believe in the better angels of our nature, we have neglected to believe that the same old devils are still at work. MJ's right to voice some alarm. America has always been more about what it aspired to be than what it was at any given moment, but at least we have the power to reach for something better if we do not lose courage.
As Berthold Brecht warned about celebrations of Hitler's defeat, "Do not rejoice in his defeat, you men. For though the world stood up and stopped the bastard, The bitch that bore him is in heat again."
It's not surprising that O's numbers have dropped. This is just the opening act of an old play of America that we probably prefer to believe had been performed and panned long ago.
But that's OK. It is the price we -- and our surrogate, Obama-- will have to pay in order to peel the scab off this old sore once and again.
The old bitch is always in heat, sooner or later. The battle is joined. No one relinquishes power voluntarily. These guys mean to play for keeps, too. And they have the ruthlessness and cynicism from running things for decades that makes them ever more dangerous.
My only fear, though, is that the core is soft, that Democrats have grown fat and corrupt, too many of them, while feeding at the public trough. If we don't change more than just the party in power, we won't be in power very long.
This a test, a game-changer. One we must not fail.
August 4, 2008 8:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
....don't think it will be Obama's skin color that does him in....it will be his "middle name", pushing the whispering campaign that gets enough voters riled up over his "un-American" sounding name, aided and abetted by with the conservative mainstream media who have their own corporate interests at stake....fear always works, rich or poor.
August 4, 2008 10:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, I too am getting nervous. I agree, some need to get out in Middle America more.
Don't know why Obama doesn't want to seem to get down and do it. You have to fight where the enemy is. If the enemy is down in the mud, then you have to get down in it to some degree.
August 4, 2008 10:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, but during the primary, he did not seal the deal. In fact, he lost the last 10 primaries.
August 4, 2008 11:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
point being...???
you don't have to win the last ten primaries to win the nomination. any more than you have to win every state (or the last ten states, alphabetically) to win the presidency. any more than you have to win each state's primary to win the state's electoral votes in the general. any more than winning a state's primary means you can win that state's electoral votes.
but thanks dataguy. for the useless (and erroneous) data.
August 5, 2008 12:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
MJ, I am not too concerned with going into the Olympics break nearly even in the polls -- in recent weeks I've had the sense Obama was peaking a bit early, and the need to push it up and not coast was a necessary correction. Apparently he is going to take a few days off during the Olympics, and then come back -- and that just might break the cycle of tit for tat on what is or isn't racism.
I am less concerned with a Biography than I am with whether he is willing to deliver a totally uncooked red meat speech at the convention, taking the hide off the VALUES of the Bush Cheney years, and the strings that tie McCain into all of it. Just re-read some of FDR's 1936 speeches where he called out the "Economic Royalists" for what they were, noted that they hated him, and stood his ground by saying he welcomed their hate. Obama can't give that speech exactly, but he can fashion his own version. Somehow he has to bridge aspirational with the red meat approach that appeals to those who look on Presidential Elections essentially as Pork Chops.
The Olympics are two weeks -- week one, the more artistic sports such as gymnastics. Week Two we get to tradition and track and field stuff. Obama needs to pound back when we are into 15 thousand meters and relays and then the final marathon -- and not during the boutique stuff.
I hope his staff has a nice vacation planned for him -- not windsurfing on the Cape, but a nice fishing camp someplace, decent lodge, decent food, a guide who takes the whole family out for decent fishing, swimming, perhaps some play at water polo -- a horse back ride, and an under the stars barbarque. Then in the last days of the Olympics he ought to go back out on the trail. What we want is build up to Denver and a nice reasonable bump -- and small scale campaigning during the Republican Convention.
It looks now like Ron Paul and Jesse Ventura have sold more tickets for their event in the Target Center in Minneapolis (which is larger) than the Republicans will have in the Hockey Arena in St. Paul. What's that about????
August 5, 2008 1:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
water polo?!?!????!! ???
and you don't think that gymnastics viewers are a necessary demographic????
August 5, 2008 1:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
"The Olympics are two weeks -- week one, the more artistic sports such as gymnastics. Week Two we get to tradition and track and field stuff. Obama needs to pound back when we are into 15 thousand meters and relays and then the final marathon -- and not during the boutique stuff. "
Well said Sara...he needs to keep pounding away and driving the same message over and over, that McCain is an original maverick and what this country needs is leadership and a steady hand at the helm...we have had enough of maverick policies, wars and tax cuts from the bushCheney administration.
August 5, 2008 4:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
He may not want to, it may not be his "new politics", but Obama has GOT TO make this election about John McCain and the Republican Party, and not about Barack Obama.
Right now the conversation is all about Barack Obama. And as Rachel Maddow has pointed out frequently, as long as the conversation is about that, Obama loses. Sad, and unfair, but true.
August 5, 2008 3:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
"water polo?!?!????!! ???
and you don't think that gymnastics viewers are a necessary demographic????"
Water Polo is a pretty normal lodge sport for kids and anyone else. Requires no special training or equiptment for all to just have fun. Apparently you have not been to all that many just family operated lodges in recent years. It is very common.
Gymnastics, everyone understands that the family has to quit their jobs, second mortgage their houses and all and move to a professonal gym so their 14 year old can hopefully support the family. How many have?
August 5, 2008 4:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
i don't think 'lodge sports' and 'family operated lodges' are as all-american as you seem to think. is it a northeast thing? because i'm from the midwest and i'm not even sure what a 'lodge' is. and as kids we played more 'marco polo' than 'water polo' to be sure. if you're gonna get persnickety about gymnastics and the whiff of 'elitism'* i don't figure the obama's ought to be involved in any sort of 'polo'.
and with the huge numbers of viewers who watch olympic gymnastics i really don't see your point. not many people at all (or their families) do what it takes to compete at the olympic level in any sport. are you afraid that if obama advertises during gymnastics competition that americans will somehow start despising gymnasts as spoiled little rich girls and then think that obama is out of touch with regular americans?? i really have no idea what you are getting at.
*the funny thing is that the olympics are when we as americans celebrate elitism even if we don't use the word (since americans don't know what the word 'elite' really means any more).
August 5, 2008 9:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why shouldn't the general campaign be based on race?
That's what Obama based his primary campaign on -- isn't it wonderful that we aren't talking about my race and any one who opposes me is a racist.
Obama's willingness to make false charges of racism disqualifies him morally from holding the Oval Office -- it shows he puts his own well-being above the good of the country.
August 5, 2008 10:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
just call him an 'uppity negro' and be done with it already. that's all you ever seem to post about.
August 5, 2008 4:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
If the Democrats follow MJ's advice and do so with some gusto, the media coverage of the GOP convention the week following will be pretty much
"Where's Bush?"
August 5, 2008 2:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
MJ,
I completely agree with you that the convention should be an all out attack on the Republicans and their years of misrule, corruption and lawlessness. Unfortunately, unless Obama changes course, he has rejected this path with all that malarky and blather about bringing the nation together, birpartisanship, etc... The best thing for this nation right now is to all but destroy the Republican Party and install massive Democratic majorities in Congress so the people's business can start to be done for the first time since about 1965.
Harry Truman wrote that the best situation for the country is to have a strong Democratic Party fighting for the common people and a small, all but powerless Republican Party representing the interests of the few at the expense of the many as a reminder of what the country doesn't need or want. I agree with Truman and I think a wide majority of Democrats see the wisdom and practicality of that kind of thinking which is very much at odds with all that "return to bipartisanship" garbage.
That whole rhetorical tack of "post" partisanship emasculates Democratic efforts to defeat the Republicans because it rejects blaming our current circumstances on those primarily responsible for the problems, crimes, and difficulties of the past 7 years on those who created them in the first place! The Democratic Party is emasculated enough without taking any hope of partisan attack off the table. In fact, it's precisely what the Democratic Party has been lacking for the past 30 years: some partisan cajones!
Now is the time and 2008 is the year to attack every Republican relentlessly for everything that is wrong with the US. I should note that this is a tactical proposition to be used in order to win the election. Intelligent, thoughtful Democrats who want to see the cowardly DC corporate, centrist Democrats deposed as soon as possible and replaced must never forget that the corporate Democrats in office in DC (Reid, Pelosi, et al)share a great deal of the responsibility for the misrule, lawlessness and corruption of the Bush years because of their deplorable cowardice, their abdication of their responsibility to the people and to the Constitution, their limp-wristed opposition and their repeated decisions to choose to prostitute themselves to corporate interests instead of choosing to side with the interests of the common people of the United States who elected them and who are, theoretically at least, their constituents.
Obama and his organization seems to me headed in exactly the wrong direction as he is now apparently under the full influence of the Democratic Svengalis of Washington DC who have managed to lose the past two "sure thing" Presidential elections with their recommendation of equivocation, groveling, not fighting back and flip-flopping. Somehow their grip must be broken so that Obama actually chooses to win as opposed to passively playing defense from now till November in the hopes of winning despite the pathetic, ineffective campaign the DC Dems want to run against McCain once again as they did in the past two Presidential elections.
I've posted elsewhere a link to a letter published in The Nation urging Obama not to continue to compromise on the principles and issues that won him the nomination. Many very well respected Democrats, authors, activists, etc... have signed. Regular people can sign too and I urge everyone to do so. The letter is brief and it's easy to add your name to the list and tell others to do it to.
Please add your name to the list MJ. It sure can't hurt and you'll be in excellent company.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080818/open_letter
August 5, 2008 5:08 PM | Reply | Permalink