The right-wing nuts are inconsistent nuts.
The left wing patriots are consistent.
They are anti-Semites and anti-Israel.

Engel is my Representative.
He strongly opposes impeachment, but is a strong proponent of Armageddon.
While contemptible and inhuman, this is at least consistent.

this is not going to be a popular comment, I can tell. but please read it with an open mind.

here's Hagee's actual [partial] quote:

"Hitler was a hunter...And the Bible says -- Jeremiah writing -- 'They shall hunt them from every mountain and from every hill and from the holes of the rocks." It was the truth and it is the truth.... How did it happen? Because God allowed it to happen. Why did it happen? Because God said my top priority for the Jewish people is to get them to come back to the land of Israel."

now--let's pretend for a moment that you are a bible-believing Christian. that means you believe in an omnipotent god. a god who made everything, and who can do anything. so Hitler being god's "tool" is not an impossible concept.

I mean, let's remember, this is the same god who gave up his only son to be sacrificed for our souls, right?

before you all flame me with righteous condemnation, please note that I'm only saying that as a Jew myself, I don't find his remarks particularly anti-Semitic in the sense we generally use the word. Odd, stupid, disturbing, sure. anti-Semitic in the accepted sense--not so much.

I'm not saying that Hagee's not a grade-A nutbag, I think he probably is. I'm just sayin'...well, I'm just sayin'.

I realize that the post was about the supposed anti-Semitism of the Right, but does anyone want to comment on what's going on in Lebanon? Hezbollah, for Syria and Iran, is destroying a multi-religious relatively progressive country. Over the past few years, the Prime Minister and then some legislators have been killed to paralyze the government. Christians have been harrassed. Syrian troops finally left, but the influence of Syria and Iran grows through Hezbollah, which isn't shy about using force. That's the context of this latest "hero's welcome" of a child murderer.
This is detrimental to the peace desiring Arabs in Lebanon, and the region, including the Palestinians.
Also, while I am not as frequent a commenter as many others, I have to say that the personal comments, from all sides, detract from the attempt to learn something from each other. Sure, some people here appear only interested in stating their views, not in considering changing them in any way. I'm not writing for those people. I am hopeful some people (including myself) can consider different perspectives.

dsmithie,
A lot of good points, but the Lebanon war is a very shaky moral ground as it was a war of choice for Israel and it should have never happened. Allowing Red Cross for visits with the hostages, while commendable, would bring IDF, Mosad, CIA, Rambo and the Terminator in their footsteps...
Wasn't the UN Security Council permanently paralyzed by the US in regard to Israel's behavior, Israel would be paying not only reparations to Lebanon, but for the clean up of the thousands of the genocidal cluster bombs dropped on S. Lebanon which still keep killing civilians old and very young.
As unfortunate as it may be, one person's murderous terrorist is another's freedom fighter and a hero. When in Rome... and in this area it is not the "Arabs" but Israel with its brutality who is setting the tone of the exchanges unfortunately. Speaking of women and children killed, check the parity on the lists of victims. I am a strong believer in statistics as an instrument of compassion, I guess this is a quote from the great poet Zbigniew Herbert.
Now Mr: Hagee: his entire ministry is based on Armageddon and the destruction of Israel. Unlike many mild nutcakes (how is a nutcake different from a wingnut, can anybody tell me) who quietly pray for it, he is actively pursuing it. Does it make him an anti-Semite? Yes in my book, but since the word has been so abused lately for political gain/expediency, I leave it to others to decide who is one and who isn't, but it certainly makes him dangerous and possibly criminal, as in war-criminal.
Are the likes of Mr. Pipes, Kristol, Prager at al stupid? Of course not. They are using Rev (!!!) Hagee, just as much as he is using the Likud/Neocon crowd for both positive hard cash flow and/or maintaining and possibly expanding the piece of real estate called Israel.
As a New York comedienne who's name I forgot once said on NPR: religion mixed with real estate makes for a very explosive concoction.
I may not agree with everything M.J. says, but I haven't seen it yet, and I am his enthusiastic supporter, grateful for the guts and the insights. And he must be feared in some circles, as he is followed by (at least 2) apac trolls:
tnathan and apacmember who each time try to drown any meaningful discussion in the static noise of the ridiculous.
Their smart ass vitriol has stopped discussions many times already. MJ, stick it out
Peace to all

I did mean Peace to All, in the ME in particular, but it will first of all require painful compromises from all involved.
And I hate to look up to China and Russia for stability in the world, but if they are to save us from ourselves i.e. the neocon
crazies ready to attack yet another country (Iran) on inflated claims then so be it.
And then from time to time, on bad days, when I loose faith in my countrymen and the humanity in general, I wonder maybe the prophecies of the Armageddon are not all just BS.
In that case, having so many squandered opportunities to prevent it, we will well deserve it all that will follow.

Unlike MJ Rosenberg, these right wing "anti-Semites" oppose the reprise of the Holocaust explicitly advocated by Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, and Fatah. At a time when the six million Jews of Israel are being repeatedly threatened with death, Rosenberg targets his wrath at pro-Israeli Christians.

Rosenberg, if you ever tire of bashing Jews and the Christians who want them to stay alive, feel free to condemn the Fatah freedom fighters who slaughtered unarmed Jews in the seminary a few months ago.

Thus far, your busy (Jew-hating) schedule has precluded you from doing so.

In your next disordered column, catalog the anti-Semitic atrocities committed by contemporary American Christians, and we can compare them with the litany of Jew murders committed by your anti-Zionist brethren.

One thing this discussion has proved is that there is a healthy debate on Israel being the problem or the victim. We see accusations that they are oppressors, and just the opposite, claims that Hezbollah is at fault, a terrorist organization.

I think we all try to package things neatly in categories to our detriment, and we have a tendency to cling to our original opinions no matter what we hear afterwards.

If anyone in this discussion was given a million dollar research grant to write a 1,000 page report on the problem, they'd come up with the same conclusions. Both sides are both victims and aggressors at the same time, depending on the actions of the individual Jew or Arab you are talking about.

My only metric for the ethics of anyone, regardless of their nationality or faith, is whether they are advocating double standards. For example, Eliot Engel and Joe Lieberman feel that Israel should have nukes and Iran shouldn't. Engel also feels that Palestinians should be discharged from Israel without a homeland.

So forget the eternally ongoing debate between Israel and the rest of the Mid East for a moment. This will not be solved here by us. But what we can decide is whether our local elected reps should be giving credibility to a kook like Hagee who believes today that the inevitable destiny for all Jews is annihilation.

Eliot Engel has directly handed over his Congressional power of oversight to George Bush to give him a free hand to attack Iran. After all Bush/Cheney have done, don't you think Engel should be a bit more judicious in representing the people of Rockland, Westchester and the Bronx?

What is it with you Rossenberg haters? He does an excellent job. What would please you? Does he have to condemn anti-semitism? every other sentence?

Just because his take is different than yours, does this mean he doesn't want what's right for the Jewish people?

Use your heads, people.

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