The Long Hard Slog

First, like my fellow discussants, I, too think GNP is excellent, provocative and (hopefully) destined to be widely discussed and never implemented. That said, while I find much to disagree with in Ross and Reihan's book, I feel strongly that the country and world would be a better place if they were running the GOP. But of course, they're not running the Republican Party. And they never will. And that brings me to my main point.
In his opening post, Ross discusses two stories about post-war American political history that he and Reihan believe are misguided. The first, prominent on the left, (and one to which I in large part subscribe) is the story that Tom Frank tells in What's The Matter with Kansas. This is a story about how America's ruling corporate interests have cynically manipulated cultural populism to sucker working class voters into voting against their own economic interests.
R&R persuasively highlight the deficiencies of this argument (or at least the argument in its most simple form). As they point out, in many cases so-called social issues (say, divorce rates) actually do connect to pocketbook issues (income volatility) and I agree that in giving these kinds of connections short-shrift Frank does miss something deep and important about the nature of America's increasingly class-stratified society.
But.
Frank's point in What's The Matter With Kansas is half about the false consciousness of white working class Republicans, and half about the nature and essence of the conservative coalition and the Republican party, which is to advance the interests of America's corporate class. That is, whatever Republican politicians say, whatever ideas are floated in the National Review or Weekly Standard, what's going on beneath the surface is a decades long project to gut, wreck or subvert the welfare state and redistribute income upwards.
Now, the center-right coalition is heterogenous and diverse (well, ideologically diverse) and it's true that there are lots of Republican voters who just don't have a lot of enthusiasm for the Goldwater-Reagan-Norquist hard right libertarian economic rhetoric. (Never mind the policies themselves) Ross and Reihan are keenly aware of this fact: They see a Republican party that doesn't consistently speak to or craft policies aimed at the working class voters that are supporting them. What gives? Because R & R are intellectuals, ones who engage in politics in good faith, they view this as an intellectual deficiency: that the wrong factions have won the debates in conservative circles.
But I think Frank is fundamentally right that this isn't an intellectual deficiency, but a structural deficiency of a movement funded by and run for the benefit of the very rich. What gives in other words is that the Republican party is run by very, very wealthy people and interests that aren't particularly interested in the plight of the working class. Is the American Gas Association going to fund a think tank to churn out reports on wage subsidies? I don't think so.
Now, I imagine R & R don't think this is accurate, but the point is that while they grapple at length with the ideas and rhetoric of the conservative movement, they spend essentially no time grappling with its financial and institutional structure: the bundlers and billionaire libertarian cranks who write most of the checks.
Conservatives point out all the time the ways in which the "interest groups" within the center-left coalition - teachers' unions, to name just one example that elicits compulsive attention - constrain the range of policy options the Democratic party can pursue. And while it can be overstated, it's true: political coalitions are constrained by the agendas of their most powerful members. But that basic truth seems largely absent from GNP.
R & R's chief virtue is their shared and genuine sense of empathy. But they are part of a political coalition structurally constituted in such a fashion that by and large rejects this inclination. They are writers who never fail to engage in debate in good faith, and they're attempting to reform a political coalition whose M.O. is bad faith.
It's gonna be a long, hard slog.













The Republican Party needs to start somewhere, and I predict after a severe beat-down this November, they will be casting about for a new model.....hopefully they will seize upon Ross and Reihan's book and find their answer.
July 15, 2008 12:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
you just know that ain't gonna happen.
What will happen is easy to predict.
They will get the worst beatdown since the Dems in 1980.
They will spend the next 8 years eating each other alive. The GOP Qaeda will insist that the problem was that Bush was a closet liberal and they didn't run far enough to the right. If we're really lucky, the moderates will finally rise up and take back at least some of the reins, and the Qaeda will splinter off and form a third party behind some nutcase like Gary Bauer.
Gonna be a long, long time til the GOP recovers from the hangover.
July 15, 2008 2:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's worse than that, rynato. Democrats still controlled the House in 1980, albeit with a smaller majority. The GOP is looking at a Democratic Congress and president in 2008 and the potential political wilderness for a generation. The degree to which Republicans are in trouble is unprecedented--the closest thing I can think of is the decimation of Canada's Progressive Conservative party in the 1993 federal election, which left them with two (yes, two) seats in the 295-seat Parliament.
What is going to be prime entertainment in the political world come 2009 and beyond isn't going to be the new direction the country will take with Democrats in control, but rather which faction within the GOP will grab control of its weakened carcass and try to bring it back to relevance. My money's on the libertarians--Ron Paul attracted a lot of grassroots attention from folks who would probably normally vote Republican. There are a striking number of parallels between their efforts this year and the ascendency of Dean and the new Internet politics in 2004. Their popular movement could invigorate a rebirth of the Republican party, especially with the moribund social conservative evangelical base as of late, quieted by the lack of an issue with enough traction to bring them out to the polls (gay marriage notwithstanding).
July 15, 2008 10:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
I disagree, believing that the Republicans have placed this society in a state of disrepair that will take generations to mitigate, assuming that it's possible to recover at all. It is not merely a financial problem (though the economy is probably in deep trouble); it is the fact that the Republicans have taught us that the law is merely a set of agreements that are subject to easy interpretation and easily broken. It's the "make me" society: If you don't like what I am doing, go ahead and try to "make me" stop.
The damage is so deep and severe that short of a miracle, recovery cannot occur within a politically viable timeframe. I expect Republicans to be back in the saddle again in no greater than 6 years, possibly as soon as two.
July 15, 2008 11:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think it will be as soon as 2 or maybe even 6 years, but I do agree with you that the Republican exile will not be for as long as a generation. The Democrats have been struggling that long because the party is timid, but Republicans are far from timid, and they have the might of international corporations to back them up. Besides that, the current Democratic party does not provide such a huge contrast to the Republican party that it would be difficult for Republicans to ease back into the political arena.
I agree with you, too, on the extent and nature of disrepair in which the Republican party has left the country. I think it would be wise of us to remember, though, that they could not have done nearly as much damage had it not been for the complicity and timidity of most Congressional Democrats, who flinched whenever President "Make Me" thumped his chest.
What we need in order to start to put things right again is not just a Democratic president with a more progressive agenda, but Congressional representatives with the spine to stand up to an overreaching executive of whatever party and force the president back within the lines the Constitution draws aruond his office, just the way the Congress did with Richard Nixon in the aftermath of Watergate.
Of course, that will also require a Supreme Court that is not so enamored of the "unitary executive," but perhaps even the current Court will be more willing to apply the brakes when there is a Democrat in the White House. They have shown willingness to push back on habeas issues, albeit only by 5-4 margins.
July 16, 2008 12:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, and while the Republicans are doing that, the "bundlers and billionaire libertarian cranks" will seize upon their Democratic majority.
July 15, 2008 12:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
This book is lipstick on a pig. I'm done listening to reasons why Republicans aren't really so bad. Given what they have done to this country in the last 30 years (begining with St. Ronnie) and especially in the last 8 years, I see no way that anyone with a conscience can still call himself or herself a Republican. They have broken the military, wrecked the ecomony and are now buy sucking the last few dollars out of the national treasury.
And please don't bother to try to convince me otherwise - in 60 years I have never been so despairing. There is nothing we can do to stop the freight train of financial, social and political ruin headed our way. By the time there is a political change all the money will be gone exactly as the Republicans planned. Those of us not in the club are looking at long years of misery.
July 15, 2008 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
As Dorn76 implies, it is not R & R's purpose to defend or apologize for how the GOP put itself in the position of losing the White House and the Congress for, perhaps, a generation.
Their purpose is to tell GOPers how to get back into power by adopting an ideology and by presenting programs that the swing-voter (the Sam's Club voter) will find attractive. For the time being the plutocrats who fund the party will have to retreat to the background and button their lips -- that means you Scaife and you Coors but does that mean you Pete Peterson? Probably not.
July 15, 2008 1:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
His liberal narrative is defective in sense
that What's the Matter with Kansas was refuted in What's the Matter with What's the Matter with Kansas.
This little preppie rich kid had a good college education I can see and an IQ or 90 and he now lives and breathes Rethugian cant while my family and hundreds of thousands of families are driven into bankruptcy because the Rethugians are whores for the insurance industry.
Can anyone find me a Christian Rethugian who knows what it means to be Christian? Nope.
July 15, 2008 1:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I see it as this...the plutocrats and billionaire libertarians tend to employ people like R & R to show the empathy they never can on their own. The reason is plutocrats and billionaire libertarians don't have one bit of empathy in their greedy twisted souls.
I guess this is finally the real effort to define the concept of what 'compassionate conservatism' is, the oxymoron that it is. George Bush claimed to be a compassionate conservative and look where we ended up. So time to get back to the drawing board and try to tell the same fairy tale in a different way I guess.
All I see ever happening is uber-wealthy giving up enough to keep the serfs placated. And employing people like R & R to tell them how much better off they are as serfs.
Because R & R are intellectuals, ones who engage in politics in good faith, they view this as an intellectual deficiency: that the wrong factions have won the debates in conservative circles.
Well I see R & R as people trying to convince possible supporters, with wistful talk of change, that 'the wrong factions' won the internal battles within the bowels of the conservative movement. The same factions that will ultimately remain in power. The 'money gives us the power' faction won and I don't see them giving up one iota of control. No Ebeneezer Scrooge moments of awakening in our cultural future. The more they tryo to convince us things will 'change' the more they will stay the same.
July 15, 2008 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Like your analysis, Chris... especially as it turns on good faith. Or lack thereof. Case in point: President Bush is trying to lift the offshore drilling ban. Where "compassionate conservatives" may be expected to argue the competing issues of, say, environmentalism and oil self-sufficiency, the real point--i.e., all the potential profits of such drilling land directly in the pockets of American Big Oil--never reaches a level of national attention that such an issue deserves. How can ideological debates within or between parties take place in such an atmosphere of public bamboozlement?
July 15, 2008 3:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, that's exactly the right point. Also, it should be made abundantly clear what happens with some that money that lands in the hands of Big Oil. It feeds the power grab on so many levels.
Next up we have the nuclear power industry waiting in the wings. Another chance to transfer wealth into the maw of the plutocratic power machine.
It is fundamentally a structural problem within the current political system.
July 16, 2008 11:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know. I think you can kind of take them at face value--they're social conservatives who don't like a lot of social liberal excess, they're somewhat politically unmoored, and trying to make it work on the Republican side of the aisle, along with, for example, the evangelicals, etc. But, they have more education than most rank and file evangelicals so they can articulate certain things a little more adequately, and likely a lot more exposure to other people with other kinds of ideas (lo, they're not Satan). In many ways "R&R" are probably not all that unlike a lot of moderates who don't strongly identify with either of our socially obsessed political parties.
In their economic ideas and lack criticism for the way that the top heavy finance industry and their uber-wealthy patrons are clear cutting the economy and remaking it more to their liking, they're not that different from social liberals who talk like they've never even had to balance their checkbook. And, probably they haven't because all these people are from the slightly spoiled contingent that hasn't gotten its ass properly kicked by the one party state (yet).
I'm not at all willing to say that the Democratic Party doesn't sport a few fig leafs itself.
July 15, 2008 3:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Quoting Douthat's definition of conservatism - "a commitment to the defense of the particular habits, mores and institutions of the United States against those socioeconomic trends that threaten to undermine them, and those political movements (generally on the left but sometimes on the right) that seek to change them radically in the pursuit of particular ideological goals."
Speaks for itself...
July 15, 2008 3:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, take them at face value - greedy narcissists who have no concern for people who are not in their world. If you saw Douthat on Bill Moyers you saw his disdain and unconcern with gas prices and housing prices and food prices, he can still afford what he wants - you don't matter except as a mark to be drawn into the circus tent.
Many years ago a debate in the House of Representatives made it very clear to anyone watching the difference between Republicans and Democrats. The issue had to do with children; Democrats held up pictures of children affected by the issue, children of their constitutents, to argue in favor of the issue. Republicans held up pictures of their children and grandchildren and complained that they would have to pay for it.
As for conservative Catholics; I've known them all my life. My very devout, but seriously practical mother called them 'pillars of the church.' I call them 'uber-Catholics', more concerned with letting you know how holy they are than with living the gospel.
July 15, 2008 3:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
"If you saw Douthat on Bill Moyers you saw his disdain and unconcern with gas prices and housing prices and food prices, he can still afford what he wants"
Yeah, I saw that. I also know that the social liberals with whom he jousts are no better. These are mostly "liberal" women. I think you should pay attention to that. In three years time they'll hitched to his second cousin once removed, and then they'll show you.
July 15, 2008 7:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let's be clear: Ross and the other guy aren't intellectuals. They're Republican strategists. Intellectuals write papers such as What's the Matter with Connecticut?
July 15, 2008 8:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
He wasn't jousting with social liberals. He and Mickey Edwards were explaining their theory of how Republicans should remake themselves. Bill Moyers would ask a pertinent question now and then regarding something one of them had said. Those were the times when Mr. Douthat would say something on the order of, 'Of course that can be a problem, but . . . ' and would sail into another abstraction. It was obvious that the day to day concerns of working people were not his concern.
July 16, 2008 6:13 PM | Reply | Permalink