Wow.
Bravo Joe Klein for sticking up for the truth.

If he keeps this up I may have to start reading him.

Looks a very lopsided argument. But then personal attacks are always the sure sign that the argument is lost.

Well, at the start of the Bush Administration someone (Cheney most likely) hired about 12 people from the AEI to fill top advisory positions in the administration. Bush likely used them as advisors. Bush attacked Iraq.

I guess the question is, was the AEI a supporter of the Iraq invasion. Kristol certainly was as he wrote a letter to Clinton in '98 advising him to attack Iraq.

What exactly does this have to do with anti-sematism?

I notice at the bottom of Klein's response to Foxman, Foxman had a link to his response to Klein's response. http://www.adl.org/media_watch/internet/Joe_Klein_Response.htm
Here is a quote from it:

"Our concern is with the term "Jewish neoconservatives" and the distressing claim that those individuals are eager to serve Israel's interests against the interests of their own country.

None of the issues you raise has anything to do with a person's religion or religious beliefs. None of the neo-conservatives, whether Jewish or of another faith (or no faith), has expressed his or her views about foreign policy in terms of religion. It is inappropriate to identify a group that clearly has Jews and non-Jews within its ranks by singling out the Jews or, worse, identifying all of them as "Jewish." Again, if you consider the history that has seen Jews vilified as a group that keeps to itself, is conspiratorial and has dual loyalties, you will better understand our concern."

The problem that I see is that Foxman sees any complaint against an American Jewish supporter of Israel as being based on religion. Yet the real problem of so many Neocons isn't their religion. It is their Israeli nationalism. And there really is a dual loyalty there. The Neocons see a threatened nation of 7,000,000 people in the middle east to which they have strong nationalistic ties of loyalty, and they want the other nation they belong to - the 303,000,000 people USA - to take military action to defend Israel or at least to take military actions that will "benefit" Israel - in that military "quick fix" that is so enamored by conservatives impatient with learning about their enemies so that common ground can be found to lessen tensions.

Foxman quickly slides all criticism of conservative Israeli nationalism by Israel's American supporters who happen to be Jewish over to "antisemitism" based entirely on religious prejudice. That way all opposition to nationalistic policies proposed by Neocons can automatically be ignored and attacked as being based on bias against the Jewish religion.

Jewish fear of another Holocaust, which I presume motivates Foxman's blindness to the Israeli nationalistic motivations is quite unsurprising. But Jonathon Pollard was a Mossad spy in the Pentagon for nationalistic reasons. It is hard to forget either Pollard or Larry Franklin who passed secrets to members of the Israeli lobby, AIPAC.

It is also very hard not to see elements of Israeli nationalism motivating many of the hardline Neocons. Foxman's attempt to conceal their motivations behind cries that opposing them is somehow "antisemitism" based on their religion simply overlooks the fact that the policies the Neocons pushed and still push are hardline conservative militaristic policies assured of failure because of their very nature.

It's a shame that Foxman refuses to apply any nuance to who he claims is antisemetic. Antisemitism does still exist and needs to be exposed and refuted where it can be. Calling Joe Klein Antisemitism because he opposes the Neocon proposals for self-defeating military actions by the US against Islamic nations simply makes Foxman look foolish and impotent. Foxman discredits the more appropriate ADL efforts to combat real antisemitism.

That's a risk single issue extremists always run, I guess.