Going Overboard on Russert
I don't get it.
I'm not going to lie. I felt terrible when I heard the news but only because he was someone I "knew" from television, because he seemed like a lovely man, and because I felt for his wife, son, and father. I still feel "shocked."
But that's it.
So tell me, why is thing being covered this way? How is it that the media barely notices 4,000 American (and 100,000 Iraqi) dead in the war but goes insane over this? Aren't thousands of dead and maimed kids (soldiers and children) infinitely worse, especially when the war is a fraud, engineered by lies and liars?
Sorry, folks.
The Russert story is pure celebrity journalism. It is no different than the coverage of the death of a movie star or a sports figure. Moving, captivating, but not "news" in the sense of being of significance.
I don't know what Russert would think. Frankly, I did not like MTP under Russert because it was too self-referential. There was too much Russert and his buddies all shmoozing about the news The fact that Mr. and Mrs. Carville (and sometimes their kids) were regulars was pretty telling.
Stephanopoulos, Schieffer and Blitzer may all have lots of celebrity friends (they may also show up on their respective shows) but their shows do not have the feel of a private party that the rest of us are invited to observe. No, I don't expect Sunday morning news shows to feel as substantial and solid as Bill Moyers but Russert lowered the bar. Not only is that buddy-buddy stuff tiresome, it is a symptom of the dangerous coziness between journalists and the people they are supposed to cover and even each other. I'm glad these guys are all having fun. But maybe they are having too much fun while both America and the world suffer from US policies which they barely scrutinize.
Russert knew, I think, the difference between news and Hollywood. This is Hollywood. Still, it does tell us where we are going as a culture. Gertrude Stein said America is the "only fabulous country." It may also be the silliest.















I remember years ago when John Lennon was shot, and at the same time, 10,000 people in Italy died in an earthquake. I remember saying something similar to what you are saying. I know see how abstract I was being, and you are being now. Russert actually played a role in millions of peoples lives -- and certainly in the lives of his media colleages -- and it would be strange, to say the least, to expect that people not pay attention to and grieve for someone who touched there lives most directly and identifiably than do those dying in Iraq. None of this means, of course, that Russert's death is more important in any 'objective sense' than the Iraq war.
June 17, 2008 8:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yesterday, Chris Mathews had Pat Buchanan and Mike Barnacle on as guests. They paid tribute to Tim Russert. They all pointed out their Irish Catholic upbringing. Their roots made for great cops and great prosecutors. They were filled with the need to "get the bad guys".
At one point Buchanan told a joke about being told that Fordham graduates existed to be the FBI guys who sent the Harvard grads to jail. "The traitors were at Harvard", Buchanan laughed.
As I watched this spectacle, the feeling that came over me was that I was witnessing what was truly wrong in MSM. Here were these very insular, ethnocentric men who had the ability to deterine what the important stories of the day would be. They represented a very narrow sliver of the population as a whole.
None had very much contact with other ethnic groups in their formative years and all "clung" to their religion. Mathews understood the woman from Pennsylvania who asked Obama about a flag pin. Mathews was at a loss when trying to understand Michelle Obama's pride comment. As I watched I actually got more and more upset.
Here we had Pat Buchanan watching Russert take down the racist candidate for Louisiana Governor,David Duke on a Meet The Press clip that was shown. Without missing a beat, Buchanan agreed that Russert was a great interviewer. The racist that Pat Buchanan had spewed out was swept under the rug. Buchanan was happily at home with his fellow alter boys. Buchanan is one of the reasons that Rev Wright's views have a base in reality.
MSNBC has exposed itself as isolationalist when it comes to truly offering a different point of view on a variety of issues. There may be isolated exceptions like Olbermann and Rachel Maddow, but for the most part, NBC and MSNVBC are pretty much Whitebread and very Centrist in their point of view. It was in full display in the Russert tribute on Chris Mathews.
June 17, 2008 8:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
If you enjoyed rmrd0000's comment (I did), you might enjoy this disquisition, too.
"But the Healys and Seelyes and Connollys and Kellys have been crawling all over our political culture, chasing Bill Clinton’s troubling blow-jobs—and Hillary Clinton’s troubling gender." And he doesn't stop with the girls; he gives it to the Irish Catholic boys -- Matthews, Barnicle, O'Reilly, Buchanan and too many others to list -- as well.
June 17, 2008 9:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the link.
June 17, 2008 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you for writing this. I experienced the same feeling yesterday watching the catholic boys kibitz on TV about another catholic boy.
I found it very disturbing that they all felt so comfortable to indulge their ethnicity while at the same time having been all up in arms when they witnessed Wright engaging in his ethnic reality and went completely bonkers as if they were somehow underseige!
I was angered by the fact that they could presume to be a reflection fo what others beleived and not have any regard for the diversity of thought, views and cultures that watch not only MTP but Hardball as well.
Such sactimonious privileged entitlement on full display was utterly frightening.
It made me appreciate Obama's candidacy even more and to see exactly how the dominant themes, thoughts and cultural responses have greatly shifted in this country.
Buchanan, Matthews and Barnicle are generational dinosaurs.
Rachel Maddow, Schuster and Olberman are inDEED a breath of fresh air.
June 17, 2008 4:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
You've nailed my quarrel with Russert. He was an good journalist and better than average interviewer I suppose, but like Matthews and Buchanan and Barnacle he couldn't get out of his cultural box and he didn't even want to get out of it. He took pride in being in that box as do they.
You can't be a great journalist or a great leader or a great anything if you can't see the bigger picture. Good, yes. Good guy, yes. Great, no.
June 17, 2008 7:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Remember these guys aren't typical Irish Catholics, any more than Dershowitz or Speilberg are ordinary Jews, or 50 Cent and Jay-Z ordinary blacks, or Steinem and Dworkin are ordinary women, etc.
The power, wealth, fame, and inherent isolation from ordinary reality, has made them caricatures of their former selves. Magnifying whatever tendencies brought them to fame, from habitual extremism to conformity.
June 17, 2008 7:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
btw, they're not in the Catholic Irish box at all. At least not the same box most Catholic Irish are in.
They're fully in the elite, multimillionaire, pundit box.
This whole narcissistic veneration of Russert isn't because he's Catholic Irish, it's because he was a wealthy and powerful pundit in the MSM. Of course even the MSM must feel a bit self conscious over the endless exposition, so it becomes neccessary to eulagize him as though he was just another guy at the local pub, who we hapilly shared a few beers and conversation with.
Nonsense. It's so contrived and narcissistic.
They're really eulogizing and venerating themselves, before the fact.
June 17, 2008 8:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree they are eulogizing themselves.
But the conceit that they represent the Irish Catholic working class also bothers me because they think it is sufficient to be in touch with Irish Catholic working class northeastern men. The country and the world are a lot more complicated than that and if you can only speak for that segment, you aren't a journalist, you are an advocate.
June 17, 2008 9:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Making it anti-catholic is kind of obnoxious. It's not as though they have much in common with ordinary Catholics.
Yes the MSM is insular, but it's not so much about religion or even race as it's about the wealth and power of celebrity, not to mention the constraints of fame and inability to blend in with ordinary folks, that creates the insularity.
The same things happens with music and movie stars regardless of color or creed. Many become increasingly disconnected from reality over the years until they're ultimately these exotic creatures bred in isolation, becoming caricatures of their former self.
From Barbra Streisand as the ultimate hippy dippy, to Toby Keith as the ultimate ignorant hick, etc.
The MSM is based on tabloid sensationalism, commercialism, and equivocation to lowest common denominator demographics. It tends to select people with those inclinations. So, MSM celebrities typically become caricatures of themselves as the ultimate equivocating tabloid sophists.
June 17, 2008 7:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree MJ. In fact I was at a loss when I heard from Keith Olbermann on Countdown last night that MSNBC was gonna televise his funeral live like he was a "head of state".
It is part of the MSM culture. They (the media talking heads) are bigger than the news they supposedly report. Go for the sensational, tawdry, titillating and celebrate celebrity while the important, substantive issues get largely ignored. Tim Russert was a media icon, very powerful and recognizable. I was saddened he, or anybody, died at such a young age. But many people sadly die before their time in wars, because of dangerous products or tainted food allowed on the market because of inadequate inspections, due to the fact they can't afford health insurance, etc. The people we aren't familiar with don't matter and the famous do. Coverage of his death reminds me of the sensational coverage we get locally each time there is another tragic "home invasion" or some kids get killed out because the teen driver of the car was doing 110 mph on a winding back road...breaking news, our reporter is on the scene, we'll have round the clock coverage, footage at 11:00.
The media is no longer primarily about the news and providing information. It is about entertainment first and information second.
June 17, 2008 8:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree, and I will add that I cannot watch any of those talking headache shows because each time I would turn on any of them it would feel exactly like a HOME INVASION by narcissistic con men and women (except Maddow) who pander to my worst instincts in an attempt to sell me to their advertisers - informing me of reality has nothing to do with their shows. There couldn't be a bigger waste of time in the "news" world. It exists only for their advertisers and their bank accounts.
Pragmatically, it was inevitable that news programming would end up not for the public but for the corporate sponsors who pay for it. It couldn't have happened any other way, given the craven nature of "free-market" commercialism and the lowest common denominator programming it engenders.
Even PBS and NPR have long ago shrunk way below the credibility threshold since major corporate sponsorships began neutering the public's
"independent" news media's attitude and coverage (Corporate sponsorships began in the 1970s [maybe earlier] as part of a specific corporate strategy to coopt coverage of themselves and the ultimately political nature of their investment strategies.).
More and more, I see those latter 1960s and earlier 1970s days of revolutionary breakthroughs in attitudes, creativity, and public information as a high watermark of our open society. It was happening all over the world too.
These days, however, even the BBC is a major co-sponsor of the Iraq War and Occupation, and corporate mergers in news and entertainment have so far successfully distracted, divided, and conquered the potential opposition to the ongoing military escalations by the Anglo-American neoimperial nations.
The internet - God Save Net Neutrality - gives us the possibility of reclaiming that high ground and even going beyond, however.
So there is hope and hopefully, yes we can.
June 17, 2008 1:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
When the coverage of news becomes defined by the amount of advertising dollars that can be made off of it the news stops being objective and truly informative. I agree with your take on PBS. While the News Hour is currently the gold standard for television journalism even they have succumbed and given in to corporate benefactors. Can we expect NBC News to honestly report on issues that would hurt General Electric? Or ABC with Disney?
But part of the problem is how intellectually slothful the American public has become. The majority of the American people refuse to or can't think on their own. They need to be told what the events mean and they can't be bothered to engage in independant thought. Getting in the "Way Back" machine and listening to a hypothetical conversation, but one that assuredly occurred, between 2 Americans (maybe after watching Dick Cheney on MTP?)...
"Geez it sounds like we will be attacking Iraq."
"Yeah it does. They said on the news that Saddam was responsible for 9/11. So I am all for it."
An independant press was supposed to be the cornerstone of our freedoms by accurately reporting to the people what our government was doing...it cannot be that when making money from corporations, whose profits are often directly related to laws passed by the government on their behalf, trumps everything else.
June 17, 2008 2:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think you're right on here, MJ. All the commentators as well. You've all said something that's very hard to say. We don't tend to like death and families left behind or the loss of familiar figures.
But, had Russert not died, some of us would likely have been complaining about his show this week -- his choice of guests, his choice of gotcha questions and softballs, how the wrong story spun out of MTP on Sunday...
I guess that as a celebrity journalist he got a louder voice than most in the national conversation and that means he had a notable life. But you know, I see a lot of people at TPMCafe who strike me as more qualified to have a louder voice than Russert does. Wasn't that notion always part of the internet conversation?
June 17, 2008 9:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
Just have to say it -- I think you are all being harsh. (No, no defense of Pat Buchanan but then there never is. He would offend talking about this or anything else. What else is new.) It's the wonder of the remote control -- you can switch to another channel or grab a book to read, or take the dog for a walk.
To many people "out there" someone like Tim truly is 'family' and he was a particularly nice, likeable family member, one who died with no warning and tragically young. I'll never forget the very real grief that my bright and involved shut-in grandmother experienced when the womsone who was regularly on Washington Week in Review died suddenly. ------------- For the people on NBC and MSNBC, he WAS their friend -- and their boss. In the rest of the world you'd put a wreath on the shop door and simply close up for a week. That isn't possible, however. So let the people who need to grieve.
Yes, life is unfair, our perspective is skewed, every life counts -- even (maybe especially) the soldiers who die in Iraq deserve as much honor and mourning as Tim Russert. But that's the point - *every* life matters and every family deserves the chance to mourn. Russert's family was more extended and more public, so public that some people who don't need that mourning wind up watching. But there is always the remote control... After all the air time spent on Britney, ugly rumors, and mis-statements a 5 year old would understand were a simple mistake, it's hard to find grief over a good man to be particularly offensive.
June 17, 2008 9:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
I admire your empathy for those that must find "family" on the tube but find that your comments actually illustrate what seems to be at the core of what is wrong here.
You describe an alienation in which people seek the succor of family from the mass media while also being able to click the remote to eliminate any unwanted reactions that may arise from experiencing this relationship. In the world of yore, when family members were both a joy and a pain the relationships that developed were beyond the egocentric. One had to accommodate, one had to work to understand the needs and feelings of the other. One had to go beyond their selves and in so doing developed beneficial characteristics such as social responsibility.
The family mediated by the media allows a shallow imitation in which one may wallow in a sense of grief without really having lost anyone actually close to them. They do not have to adjust for lost earnings, dispose of the lost member's property, rearrange family hierarchies, etc. In a word they do not have to actually experience all of grief, only that part in which they wish to indulge. And at the same time there is no opportunity to see young family members grow into new roles to fill the vacancy.
This media created simulacrum satiates without nourishing. This affects not just those that willingly or inadvertently fall into this trap but the wider society as well and hence the rest of us who dwell within it. I have no clicker that can switch off this society.
June 17, 2008 10:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with the comments left by Elizabeth2. It is much better that we spend time on the death of someone like Russert, than on some other media-types that I will assume us TPM readers would place in a lower position on an importance scale.
The importance that all people in the media play in many people in everyday societies life, well, that is a peculiar thing and a much grander discussion.
On the whole I find that a bit of mourning over Russert, be it in the form television coverage, is not unwarranted. Has it been excessive? Well, I wouldn't know. I switched the TV off and took the dog for a walk.
June 17, 2008 10:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, Elizabeth. His book about his father, and his second book about so many other people's fathers, seem to have touched so many people across America. He was clearly an extraordinarily warm, generous and generally wonderful man to all the people who knew him. They all seem to have found him so very special. So it seems totally understandable that his tragic death at such a relatively young age would evoke a special reaction.
I agree with people's commentaries on the state of the media nowadays but I think that's a separate issue. I don't like a link being made. It feels like kicking a dog when it's down.
June 18, 2008 10:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
...and this article shows what's wrong with you. "...especially when the war is a fraud, engineered by lies and liars?" Why can't you make a point about the reporting of Russert's passing vs. the other deaths around the world without injecting your own left wing spin? It's the same thing. The same deficiency. You have a political goal so you use the same "hollywood" theatrics to make it as you condem others for the same thing.
June 17, 2008 9:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why can't you make a point about the reporting of Russert's passing vs. the other deaths around the world without injecting your own left wing spin?
Ummm, because...this is a left-wing political blog?
Ummm, because...that's we you read it?
Ummm, because...that's why YOU read it?
Ummm, because...the questions that MJ asks and the juxtapositions are good questions that make good points?
...among others
June 17, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Reading all these comments makes me feel fortunate, even privileged, to not have a teevee. Apparently "celebrity journalism" is an unavoidable habit that one loves to hate, kind of like going overboard on Russert about going overboard in Russert.
June 17, 2008 9:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Agreeing that though Russert was clearly a decent human being , his work was over-praised there was one exception : election night 2000.
While the other network anchors were all describing what seemed to be a complicated situation with Florida and several western states all undeclared , Russert took an ordinary flip chart and crayon,listed the open states with their electoral votes and demonstrated those western states could be ignored- whoever carried Florida would win.
It was impressive.
June 17, 2008 9:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Speaking as someone who excised TV News from his life about 10 years ago, I actually have no impression of Mr Russert except the what I've heard from other pre- and post-mortem.
Jim McKay died recently, a "newsman" who easily had as important an impact on TV journalism, though as a commentator and reporter on ABC's Wide World of Sports, but he was 86, no one was surprised.
If you look at the average age range of the folks covering Russert's demise, you can get a sense of what's really going on. They see themselves. This is narcissism.
The best eulogy for Tim Russert was give on Friday by Rachel Maddow on her radio show when she said (and I'm paraphrasing), "We're going to set aside talking about Tim Russert and move on to the news, because that's what he would he wanted."
June 17, 2008 10:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
As far as the first question, why does the death of one newscaster get so much attention, and 4,000 deaths in Iraq so much less? This is a media phenomenon seen again and again, and commented on at some length (with facts and figures) by Nicholas Kristof in his column a few months back. The more personal and up-close a news story is, the more readers respond to it. People respond to individuals and specifics, not generalities and groups. In fact, in one study, donors gave far less to help two children than to help one child, even when the children were named, because they could not as readily respond to the tragedy of two children's plight, as one, even though the suffering was twice as great, affecting more people. No one said it was rational.
June 17, 2008 10:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
I tend (uneasily, I might add - more later) to agree with the thrust of this discussion. A great deal of what we all somehow intuit is "wrong" with modern journalism, is encapsulated in the career and in the unfortunate and untimely death of Mr. Russert, and the faux death-of-a- statesman aftermath of that event:
We have the journalist as Superstar. We have the journalist as a respected member of the club: One of the inside guys(usually) who get to participate in at least the illusion that they are involved in running things. We have the journalist as a "player" - on stage, and not in the audience where he belongs. We have the journalist who (AT BEST) confuses the issue of whether his loyalties lie with the public, or lie with the inside power-brokers with whom he wants to (MUST?) stay on good terms. We have the journalist as infotainer. We have the journalist as multi-millionare conglomerate.
We definitely HAVE all these things, and I submit that not a single one of these things is good for the healthy practice of journalism.
Honor compells me to sugest that we have one OTHER thing as well. I venture here uneasily, because I'm headed onto terrain often exploited by demagogues and various sorts of kooks, and I fully realize it. Nevertheless, it must be said: We have here a journalism too much informed (in my view) by religious bias, and an accompanying religious clannishness. I have lived 60 years on this earth, and never before felt it either necessary or appropriate to make such an observation (I have been generally indifferent to ANY individual's mainstream religious leanings, previously). I make it now only with the greatest reluctance, because I must unhappily conclude that it has become a REAL detriment to good journalism:
It seems to MATTER now (to an extent I don't recall previously) that a given journalist is Irish-Catholic, or Jewish, or Evangelical. It matters (of course) in forming their basic values, but it ALSO seems to matter more than it should in determining who they talk to, what they talk about, what they think about, who's "in", who's "out", and what the assumed areas of consensus and the prevailing underlying attitudes might be that don't even REQUIRE a thorough discussion. If journalism is properly the province of FACTS, it seems to me that a preoccupation with FAITH (the antithesis of facts) cannot be a good thing for the practice of the journalistic craft.
June 17, 2008 10:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
" How is it that the media barely notices 4,000 American (and 100,000 Iraqi) dead in the war but goes insane over this?"
Because the mainstream media are egotistical numbskulls. It's a crime that the American public feeds these sociopaths.
June 17, 2008 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Think of it this way. 99% of the "American public" didn't watch his show.
That should make you feel better.
June 17, 2008 10:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ha! Good one!
June 17, 2008 1:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
It would make me feel better, if that 99% weren't watching "journalists" worse than Russert.
It bothers me that our mainstream media have a captive audience of hundreds of millions, yet the material these media present is mostly misleading rather than educational, and stultifying rather than inspiring.
June 17, 2008 3:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, many millions in fact are getting better journalism than Russert.
The News Hour for example, as imperfect as it may be, is still better, receives far higher favorable polls for public trust, reaches vastly more people since it's almost universally broadcast, and has an audience of about 2.7 million daily viewers, and 8 million viewers who see the program at least once weekly.
Beyond that, there are many quality news sources that individually have far smaller draws, from TPM to the New Yorker to Democracy Now, but which cumulatively reach far larger numbers than the cable news networks combined.
The cable networks are a bit like Campbell's Soup. Sure, they're the largest purveyor of salty, putrid, canned puke; but it represents a tiny fraction of the nation's overall diet and virtually zero percentage of nutrition.
June 17, 2008 8:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
There is no substitute for multiple sourcing
June 18, 2008 12:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's like saying that the ice cream is 95% fat free.
It's that overly influential 5% that has me worried
June 18, 2008 12:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Can't say I agree with the premise of your question but nonetheless, the coverage of Russert's untimely death can be considered another classic case of the media going over the top. As a viewer of his Sunday show, my heart goes out to his family, but like other viewers, we do still have equal grief and sorrow for the families of the service men and women serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. It is true the coverage of the wars has gone down greatly throughout the media, but just because it's not "front page news" doesn't mean we're not thinking of them nor supporting them. The war is still causing consternation and stirring up protest around the world, so, no, the 4,000+ dead are not forgotten and will not be for gotten.
June 17, 2008 10:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Russert was one of "them", "them" being those you see tripping all over themselves to get in front of a camera to express their heartfelt sorrow and reminisce with warm, cuddly stories. "them" is the DC/New York media gang, the same gang that circle the wagons when one of theirs gets criticized, the same gang that are firing back at the criticism of the alleged sexism in their coverage of Hillary Clinton's campaign.
"them" control what gets broadcast, and since Russert was a highly visible and well known "them", "them" took over the airwaves and force fed you what is important to "them", deifying one of "them."
And lets not forget, its a cost effective way to fill air time on 24/7 cable shows.
June 17, 2008 10:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Precisely.
He was one of the gang. He was a part of their clubbiness. So, they feel more a sense of loss and they all wanted to be remembered as they are remembering Russert.
Since they have to work overtime to cover heads of states ad nauseum when they die...why not have that same ad nauseum coverage for one of their own..whom they all know worked like long and hard, who relentlessly strove to make the news 'better' and as a consequence his death was untimely due to the sheer stress of their profession.
June 17, 2008 5:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
ding ding ding. Give the man a cigar.
June 17, 2008 8:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
the same gang that are firing back at the criticism of the alleged sexism in their coverage of Hillary Clinton's campaign.
Bingo!
June 18, 2008 12:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
For the most part, I agree with you, M.J. The coverage of Russert's death has left me with the impression that the man himself was a generous human being and a kind soul, but his passing does not change my opinion of his work as a journalist. Russert contributed mightily to the "gotcha" style of journalism that is now so prevalent on television. His standard practice was to cross-examine his interview subjects using their own statements as exhibits. On the surface this seems the essence of fairness, but mostly it was just tiresome. His obsessive focus on niggling details often obscured more significant issues. (His performance as a debate moderator during the primary season was particularly disgraceful.) And even though the TV eulogizing has depicted him as being above "the fray," in many ways he was at the center of that fray.
Still, I do mourn the man. His personal warmth came across on television. And I think the reaction to his death has much more to do with who he was as a person than who he was as a journalist.
June 17, 2008 10:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
MJ - it's the March of Postmodernism. "Self-replication" and "self-reference" are key to the postmodern condition. Mass Media culture incessantly subverts other realities (like the real one) and holds itself up as the true universe. The thing is, no one is in control. Culture always has its way with us.
So all this wall-to-wall Russert coverages forced me to watch Faux-newz. Geraldo Rivera was arguing the Constitution in response to the habeus corpus issue to what seemed like a blonde bimbo commentator. Her response was that the Constitution didn't apply because Gitmo was in Cuba. Geraldo just looked at her and blinked a couple of times.
Travels in Hyperreality. (the title of an Umberto Eco Book.)
June 17, 2008 12:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mass Media culture incessantly subverts other realities (like the real one)
With all due respect Postmodernism is not trying to "subvert" the unvarnished truth. It merely maintains that it is either unattainable or non existent.
The MSM, on the other hand, is an actively fictive enterprise
June 18, 2008 12:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
but..but...well, a point well taken. However, I wrote that "mass media culture" is the agent that subverts, not "postmodernism".
June 18, 2008 11:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
I turned to my wife last night, after they trotted out Luke, and said, "What is this, a cult?"
I always thought his brand of "Gotcha" journalism - when he'd read a selective quote or replay a portion of a taped interview - was pretty weak, regardless of who he was grilling.
Seemed like he was trying to embarass his interviewee rather than add substance to the national discourse.
His fingerprints on the Plame case and then denial of responsibility was particularly odious.
June 17, 2008 12:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with you MJ and I am delighted to finally find someone who agrees with me about this - I thought I was the only one. When last night's NBC news came on and I saw it was to still one more half hour of Russert worship I just turned it off.
I didn't know Mr. Russert, didn't feel any need to know him, and probably wouldn't have recognized him on the street if I saw him. He was not a member of my family in any meaning of that word. I don't know if he was a warm cuddly human or just an actor. I really don't care if someone else now runs his TV shows, which I rarely saw anyway.
No one's death is a minor event. But, no one's death is more major than anyone else's, unless that person was a head of state of a leading nation in the world, or a personal aquaintance, friend or family member.
I won't miss Mr. Russert, and most likely won't recall who he was if asked next year. The world is still the same world, no more dimenished by his death than by anyone else's.
That's my 30 minute tribute to Tim Russert. Thanks for watching.
June 17, 2008 12:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nice tribute. Heartfelt. Its real cute to remind everyone that no death is more important than another, as you proceed to diminish the importance of someone's death.
NBC (and the rest of the MSM) cover Russert endlessly because he was a colleague and friend of theirs. And of course the coverage is overboard....The MSM is a joke, is this supposed to be news to us?
But why use Russert as your whipping boy MJ (and Hoppy)? Why not ask if coverage of shark attacks or child predators warrants more airtime than 4000 dead Americans in Iraq? It seems unnecessary and kinda icky to use Russert's death to make your political point.
I agree wholeheartedly that the MSM abdicated their responsibility as journalists long ago.
Most of us have long ago moved on from the MSM when we want real news. Maybe you should too.
June 17, 2008 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
No one's death is a minor event
Some would say that it is a non-event.
June 18, 2008 12:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
by the way-
Since when is 58 considered a particularly "young" age to kick it?
(I speak as a 57 year-old.)
June 17, 2008 3:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you look up the life expectancy for someone born in 1950, that should help to put your question in perspective relative to how 'young' he was in terms of his life expectancy.
June 17, 2008 5:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
No doubt, the blogosphere plays a very important role in the dissemination of information. But remember this: because of the stature of MTP as a place for serious political discourse, aspiring or current politicians deem(ed) it necessary to appear on MTP and to submit to often very tough questioning (sure there was light stuff sometimes, so what!). David Duke's gubernatorial campaign was exposed as fakery and scuttled, Ross Perot showed himself, in cross examination, to know little about the economy - bam, they were both toast, and Russert got Chaney to provide a record of his malicious idiocy that anyone who cares about history has to value -- the list is rather long of politicians who were confronted with their contradictions and made to make a public record, often to their chagrin, and this wasn't through muckraking bloggery, but by politicians subjecting themselves to the sort of cross examination that no press conference, debate or any other forum that I know of offered a comparable experience. Part of the strength of MTP was access to people in power, and this is certainly the weakness of bloggers -- most have almost no access.
The idea that Russert had to be perfect, or free of idiosyncracies in order to be recognized for making an extraordinary contribution to political discourse is about the most illiberal attitude I can imagine. The rhetorical trope of 'hollywood' sounds more like sour grapes that substantive analysis. Just wait -- former blogger Chuck Todd may end up taking Russert's place -- I hope he does because he knows politics, and tell me that you won't envy him having that opportunity thrown his way!
June 17, 2008 3:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Todd knows numbers not politics. He is not a good analyst for politics, he analyzes numbers and then shares his opinion based on those numbers. Politics is way more than numbers.
June 17, 2008 5:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
AMEN!
I didn't think I'd get thru the weekend without To Catch a Predator and Lockup San Quentin
He's still dead I hear
June 17, 2008 3:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
The problem we have here is the mixing of the personal with the professional. For the celbrojourno set they can't distinguish between the two because they are what they do in their own minds... or at least I perceive them to have that problem.
It is true that the celebrity "journalist" elite are far too cozy with eachother, the people they allegedly cover and so on. They represent a suffocatingly homogenous world view and their "common" wisdom completely discounts the experience and viewpoint of almost all the actual common people of the nation. They are residents of the elite little village that sees the trampling of the Constitution as a policy dispute and the illegal invasion of a sovereign nation for imperialist reasons as a strategic choice. They are so rich now and most of them have been so removed from "real" life in America for so long they simply cannot understand what life is like for most of us in today's world. I found it ironic that one of the great virtues they extolled about Mr. Russert was how he was always the regular guy, but that is how many of the elite act like to think of themselves. They mistake a lack of pretension with not having been absorbed by the Borg. Mr. Russert's own clear biases made it obvious how long it had been since he was a regular guy. Once upon a time he was a regular guy, but Russert had been a part of the DC establishment for so long he was thoroughly infused with their values, their beliefs and their priorities as exemplified in his ultimate insider statement about all discussions being off the record. One example I could offer is that a regular guy wouldn't have been silent when he knew who was violating the law for political purposes in the Plame affair. No, a regular guy would have reported the criminal and not have had to be forced to testify.
Clearly, the celebrity journalisists like Russert and Stephanopolous (the all-time successful politico wannabe celebrity)are part of the problem they are supposed to be covering and they revel in it. For them, that's the whole point. The emphasis is on the celebrity part and their own personal agrandizement as opposed to the alleged "journalism" they practice.
As far as the DC based celebrity journalist corps is concerned Russert was a standout because he was actually intelligent and reasonably informed in comparison to the dimwitted and collosally uninformed standard that holds sway in their "profession". Unlike most of them who just go to J school and practice looking good on camera, he had actually played the game on the Hill and had worked for a Governor so he knew a bit about the game he covered and he provided much of the "color" for the broadcasting of the political "games" much as ex-athletes do for football or baseball broadcasts. Russert was more popular in this role than the man closest to him in terms of background, the famous Mr. Mathews--another onetime regular guy now multi-millionaire who, are always reminded, hails originally from Philly.
Much of the eulogizing of Mr. Russert included mentions of his unending love of "the game" of politics. The treatment of our national political and governmental life is far too often considered little more than a sporting event by those in politics and certainly those in the celebrojourno club. Naturally, politics and government can, in some sense, be viewed as a game, but it is unhealthy and corrupting to view it that way all the time. This view breeds cynicism and a debasing of the issues when seriousness is required. Many of us simply do not agree that the dominant political is just a benign competition between essentially two competing teams or points of view that are not all that far apart, etc... This is the mindset that makes people think it doesn't matter if you elect Bush or Gore when we know now very clearly that is a dangerous way to view our politics. Russert was one of the chief cheerleaders of this very distorted and inaccurate viewpoint.
But, the bottom line is, they are all cozy and they are all friends with other celeb "journalists" and with the powerful people they allegedly "cover" or report on (it's often more like who they fawn over). The atmosphere they operate in encourages them to be self absorbed and it makes them focus on their own self-importance individually and collectively. They are, after all, "the news" right? They decide for us, they "inform" us as they see fit and so forth. They do a really shitty job in the opinion of most of us who understand there is a whole lot more there to talk about and consider, but such voices and viewpoints are not welcomed to or allowed on corporate airwaves. The point is they all constitute a fairly small, closed and chummy community. They unexpectedly lost a friend last Friday. So, they did and are doing what they know how to do which is to share their own feelings about the matter and they have easy and free access to every form of media. It's a big loss to them so it must be a big loss to us and they will make it so by overdoing the coverage and the praise, etc...
In a genuine way, they can't help but do what they are doing regarding their friend. Now in contrast, the nation, which is becoming more and more a version of Pavolv's dog naturally goes right along with the choreographed shock, loss and sadness and grief just as they go along with all the storylines and themes served up to them whether it is lies about WMD or suddenly being concerned about what Obama's retired preacher said in a speech. Dutifully, the viewers around the nation adopt the opinions they are fed and behave in quite predictable ways in response to the stimulii they are given. The people of Buffalo suddenly swing into action on cue, viewers across the nation discuss what Tim "meant" to them and they send thousands of e-mails expressing their emotional ordeal in the face of the tragedy and grieve along with Tom Brokaw and Mike Barnacle and the whole cast of familiar faces about the man they cared only a little about before his death, but being good and well trained viewers they quickly adopt the feelings and opinions of the talking heads which serves only to ratify the often overblown praise and hyperbole regarding Mr. Russert's professional, personal, and even spiritual contribution to this world.
The clebrojournos all believe they do a great job and that they work hard "getting at the facts" and "reporting" and "being tough" with the powerful while they so dutifully look the other way amidst widespread corruption and criminality among the powerful, while they lick their boots and whose behinds they so lovingly sniff. They are so thoroughly corrupted and rotten to the core (with a handful of notable exceptions) they simply are incapable of taking an unbiased look at what they do and how bad a disservice they do the country on a daily basis regarding almost every area of the news with which they are involved.
The public orgy of self pity and grieving by the millionaires who deliver our news is to them, the greatest way to honor their friend and they do not and can not see the imbalance between their overdone coverage of one man's untimely death versus their refusal to take a hard look at the slaughter and hundreds of thousands of murders their powerful buddies in Washington have caused in Iraq for example. They just can't and never will see it. Because in the end folks, they are just typical, small-minded, limited world view humans who have lots of money, power and fame so it's very simply all about them. They do not belong to a "profession" and they do not act in professional ways. They belong to a club that performs and entertains the populace to keep them distracted from the most important issues not unlike how the bread and circuses of Rome were used and this distraction keeps them pleasantly distracted while the elite do as they please with our country and the world.
Having said all this, I think it a shame that anyone, Mr. Russert included would have their life ended at such a relatively young age. I do have great sympathy for his wife and son under the circumstances which cannot be easy for them. Nontheless, Russert lived a charmed if not tremendously long life--far better than most people can imagine! He made millions! He got to see and do things most people never will. He seemed to value his relationship with his loved ones more than anything else and that's the sign of someone whose priorities in the long run are well ordered. If one cannot live one's life to extended age, Mr. Russert's was a pretty damn good and full one for 58. I understand the grief his friends and family, but they also have a great deal to celebrate in terms of his life.
June 17, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent post!
June 17, 2008 5:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
yep yep.
June 17, 2008 7:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
There's much about your post I agree with, even admire -- you're obviously intelligent -- but much I think is, well, stupid bloggerbites. You're fascination with hollywood, with so-called celebrity reporters and your disdain for fame (can one be a famous reporter and still be good? -- seems not, for you!) lead you to inanities like "they don't belong to a 'profession.'" You obviously have never known any reporters well; I know very few that haven't, at least for a good part of their professional life, aspired to 'better jobs,' more readership, more viewers (what writer doesn't want to be read, after all!). Some 'make it,' some don't. To suggest that only the stupid and obsequious ones are the ones that make it is delusional. The generalizations (and wow, you brimming with ex cathedra pronouncements!) you make about those that 'make it' are ressentiment laden spewings not about the quality of their reporting (and if you knew anything about reporters, you'd know that there is a huge struggle between good reporters at every level of 'stardom' and 'obscurity' with the corporations/editors that own, fund, and in large and small ways determine what the reporters can do (wow, what's new? corporations have influence over their workers!!)but about their having friends, of knowing and perhaps even liking some of the people they report with and on.
As an academic I can assure you that people in my (philosophy) and, I would venture to say, all disciplines are quite ready to take their friends and acquaintances to task if they mount a weak or errant argument. So, what the big deal with reporters -- is there any reason they shouldn't be able to maintain a dedication to the truth even when they're famous and investigating people/things they know and even like? If you answer is no, then you've purchased a nihilists meal.
As for the 'celebration' of Russert. The extent of it is an aesthetic matter, and I really have no opinion of it. Friends and colleagues routinely mourn the loss of passing colleagues. I've contributed to more than a couple of Festschrifts for people in my field, both living and dead, and there's nothing shameful, nor any abdication of integrity in that. If I were in a field in which the general public was a daily partner in the affairs of my profession, then it would hardly seem odd to have a public mourning and public 'Festschrift' for that person.
You finally do express some humane sentiments and the end of your post, but they are preceded by really provincial, small-minded, and niggardly whinings about the press.
Are there problems in the news business? Yeah, duh. But your analytical skills seem to get seduced by bloggerbites and their pyrotechnics.
June 17, 2008 10:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Much of the post you admire, but have nothing to say but how you disagree with it. Have another beer professor!
Who mentioned Hollywood other than you professor?
Only you conclude that celebrity reporters cannot be good not me pal. I didsdain them because they are shallow and do not serve the public interest, not because they are famous. Walter Cronkite was famous, but never shallow. He was a professional. The talking heads we see on most tv news today are entertainers who claim to be journalists. The claim that they are newspeople is a transparent fraud.
You say you are an academic yet you write the following embarassingly bad run-on sentence:
"The generalizations (and wow, you brimming with ex cathedra pronouncements!) you make about those that 'make it' are ressentiment laden spewings not about the quality of their reporting (and if you knew anything about reporters, you'd know that there is a huge struggle between good reporters at every level of 'stardom' and 'obscurity' with the corporations/editors that own, fund, and in large and small ways determine what the reporters can do (wow, what's new? corporations have influence over their workers!!)but about their having friends, of knowing and perhaps even liking some of the people they report with and on."
It is obvious you don't like what was written and that is fine, but don't make claims that aren't true about what was written. You just made things up professor. That isn't right now is it?
Beyond the made up portions of your attempt at criticism, you haven't the vaguest idea of whether or not I know any reporters, have worked with any or know anything about their alleged "profession." You, of course, from your perch in "academia" know all about it I suppose. You seem to like defending this class of entertainer so much it makes me wonder if you aren't actually one of them. Your poor writing and lack of anything to say certainly goes with that territory. If you actually are an academic you seem to be a good example of why they often are not taken seriously. You ramble. You carp. You whine. What you don't do, is write anything worth reading. It's clear you have nothing of your own to say. A pity for you. A real pity.
June 18, 2008 3:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
So where do you teach philosophy, may I ask? and what is your area of specialization?
June 18, 2008 11:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
oleeb,
excellent post, excellent.
June 17, 2008 5:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm glad MJ said this. It's been bugging me too.
Of course a celebrity death is, well, a celebrity death. We all know the routine. Mandatory respect for the dead, sympathy for family, testimonials to our shared humanity, etc.
Among journalists it's a necessary fealty to the powers that be. Long live the King.... and the monarchy, the apparatus, the court, the petitioners, the merchant class, etc.
Not to say there aren't celebrities who I will truly grieve for. But personally, I was never a big fan of Russert, or any of the MSM pundits.
Maybe I'm being callous or breaking the rules of celebrity death, but I see celebrities as public servants who in exchange for great wealth, fame, and power, are supposed to provide great joy, leadership, insight, wisdom, or something of enormous value to humanity. It should require great brilliance, courage, knowledge, or some human quality in unusual abundance. Even unto death their stature should be proportionate to public service.
To be blunt, it's hard for me to pretend Russert was an all-caps GREAT AMERICAN WHO WILL BE MISSED. He was an elite insider and will be missed by elite insiders.
I feel a bit ripped off by the MSM in general. This nonstop reverence of Russert also seems out of proportion to his contribution. Like an ancient monarchy mourning the death of some Count or Baron of the Provence of Punditude.
As MJ points out, what about the soldiers who are dying? What about all those people working for important causes in ignominy?
My eulogy for Russert: he was an OK journalist in an era of corporate media that tends to hammer down the nail that sticks up. He was (surely) beloved by family, friends, and peers.
June 17, 2008 6:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you MJ;I was pretty sick when I heard the pres. was going to Russert's wake. Like that one man matters more than untold thousands.
June 17, 2008 6:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, MJ and the commenters here have it just about right. I recently moved to DC and the canonization of Russert here is truly outrageous.
I was reading the Washington Post (a wretched paper, btw) and buried in the Metro section just before Mr. Russert's premature passing was a story on 7 murders committed over the weekend. Now, I moved here from a city full of violence mind you, but it was disgusting that 7 murders(not heart attacks)transpired and nary a word in the capitol city from one person I encountered. The story was buried in the Metro section and the storyline was more about the police's effort to deal with the problem than the victims, their families, and the communities where these problems are borne.
I really think that as society becomes more stratified--especially in a post modern gentrified global city like DC--the well to do and the chattering class have absolutely no connection to the world outside their bubble (nothing new here). But as this class begins to acknowledge the recession that most everyone has been feeling for 20 years, their utter inability to grasp the world is disturbing. The world is crumbling at the seems and Tim Russert's death (while certainly sad) is most important thing in the world.
They give us our news,keep in mind.
June 17, 2008 11:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think here's our answer from Wikipedia about what followed on Peter Jennings' death.
June 18, 2008 12:16 PM | Reply | Permalink